• Report: #548595
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Commercial Training Institute, Inc

  • Submitted: Fri, January 01, 2010
  • Updated: Tue, March 08, 2011

  • Reported By: Ronald S — Denver Colorado USA
Commercial Training Institute, Inc
3225 McLeod Dr Ste. 100 Las Vegas, Nevada United States of America

Commercial Training Institute, Inc Jason Gilbert, Commercial Real Estate Course and Boot Camp Ripoff Jason Gilbert Las Vegas, Nevada

*Consumer Comment: Sour Grapes

*General Comment: Beware of the Jason Gilbert/Dutch Mendenhall Scam

*General Comment: you are being SCAMMED!!! see below!

*Consumer Comment: You are not alone...

*Consumer Comment: Discretion is the better part of valor

*General Comment: Commercial Short Sales - Jason Gilbert

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Jason Gilbert and Dutch Mendenhall run a commercial real estate training company called The Commercial Training Institute.  They sell a home study course and boot camp program.

I bought the home study course a few months ago and it included some bonus items for $997.00 .  Before I ordered the course I asked to be provided a few addresses of deals that Jason has done.  I was told that I would be emailed some current closed deals.  As of today I haven't been sent any, after asking again.  No further response on that.

I attended the seminar in person also.  Paid the air fare and hotel on my end.  Was a pitch-a-thon for some other speakers that were their and pitch on doing the mentorship with Gilbert.  I was told at the seminar that students that have the home study package would get future updates as well for free.  Jason Gilbert is now doing a seminar for his new technique "short sales" which now I'm being asked to pay an upgrade for.

If you take a look at the links below for his sales page.  You can view what's included.  The Advanced Online Training has been nothing at all.  No follow up, only sales pitch for future seminars.

 (** click the picture to en-large the graphics **)


Now in a recent email from Jason Gilbert, he's claiming if you send in your old real estate courses to him.  He will discount his flagship product by 85%.  If you look at the links above the normal price is $997.  His email is at the below link:


When you take a look at his Cash For Courses site.  He claims the price of his flagship product is $1497+$497+$8000 a value of $10,000.  Act fast and get it for $1497 plus a $500 credit, bringing it to $997.  Which is the everyday price.  This is a lie and scam from Jason Gilbert, Dutch Mendenhall, and The Commercial Training Institute.

Take a look at the photos from his Cash For Courses site.


The Commercial Short Sale Unleashed course Jason Gilbert is selling is just a recording from some recent teleseminars, pitching you on buying his bootcamp.


This Gilbert is a total ripoff.  I've gotten no support when I've emailed and they still try to get more money from me.  Maybe the State Attorney General needs to look into this guy.  Provide proof your doing deals Jason Gilbert and the give your students the sources for funding if needed, since you won't do any partnering with students.  I've sent in about 11 deals that work on paper.  They need some upfront money.


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#1 Consumer Comment

Sour Grapes

AUTHOR: Robert - (United States of America)

I have attended a recent boot camp for Jason Gilbert's Commercial Quick Cash program.  I also own their Commercial Short Sale home study course.  Furthermore, I am entering their coaching program.

The information in the original report is nothing more than whining because they feel like they are owed something for free.  There have been no updates since the reporting individual purchased his course.  The Commercial Short Sale course is a completely different course; not an upgrade.  Since I bought the CSS course, he has released a Commercial Loan Mod course.  This is NOT an upgrade to the CSS course.  It's a whole new course.

These courses are intended to impart information on how to perform commercial deals, and they are good at that.  I have completed the CQC and CSS courses and both are very good.

I have attended some other, non-CTI-related boot camps on real estate, and they all have a certain amount of "pitching" for products within them.  But there is still very good information in them.  You have to understand that.  At the recent CQC Boot Camp from CTI, there was NO pitchfest whatsoever.  It was two solid days of instruction.

I feel that the original poster has a case of sour grapes and buyer's remorse, and that this entire report should be removed.
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#2 General Comment

Beware of the Jason Gilbert/Dutch Mendenhall Scam

AUTHOR: RUSSO-Esq. - (United States of America)

I am a commercial real estate attorney who received an e-mail generated from what I believe is Loopnet.com on Jason Gilbert's and Dutch Mendenhall's Commercial Real Estate course. I handle workouts on distressed commercial properties for clients and was interested in what they had to offer the market. I e-mailed them back and they called me within minutes. They promised amazing results and to "partner up" with me on deals offering up to $25,000,000 to lend on behalf of any deal I bring into them. I asked what the deal parameters were and they explained they will "place" the note of up to $25 million if I can bring in a deal with LTV's of at least 80% that's senior debt and they would take 3% on the note as a commission. "The rest was mine". They then proceeded to "size me up" on my credit status and earnings and what I do for a living along with if I found a "great deal" that would pay my course fee back many times over, would I use my available credit (cards) to finance the deal? What they were doing was feeling me out on what they can get from me in fees. They ended up lowering their price to me because they wanted to "partner up with me". They told me they can let me in for $497 but I had to act fast. I asked some basic questions on structuring deals that the first gentleman could not answer who then transferred me to a "deal director" who also could not answer any of my basic questions with even a hint of how commercial real estate works in the real world-distressed or not. The basic premise of what was said by the "deal director" was that they teach how to secure deals for distressed property from distressed property owners for no cash down but allow me to make huge upside profit on a no cash "flip".
There are no deals out there like that and no equity owner with that much equity will EVER turn subordinate their equity and become junior on their equity and no bank will EVER allow themselves to be subordinated on what is owed to them (go from 1st position debt to second position debt) without a large cash buy out to protect their banks books (outstanding loans). Bank will sometimes reduce their 1st position rights if they can secure a lower amount of exposure (total mortgaged debt owed to the bank) by having fairly large amount of the debt paid back immediately by the mortgagee or by the new 1st position lender. To try otherwise is stupid.  Its ludicrous to even try!!! Commercial real Estate doesn't work like that. Also, no owner will ever let someone without experience just "take over" their property. You must be able to manage a commercial property or a massive risk of loss can occur to the property and the bank that owns that mortgage on the property. Lastly, from a last simple view, banks always have a "pay up clause" upon a transfer of a property. Banks will NEVER let someone without experience in property management of that type of real estate EVER just assume the mortgage. If they did, the first mortgagee ALWAYS must be left on the mortgage in case of default. With that said, why would any property or equity owner ever turn his property over to someone who can't handle a property?? Investors, banks, owners, developers, property owner associations and other organizations such as BOMA (Building Owners Management Association) always has members seeking distressed deals and if no one wanted the deal for what's offered the Carlton Exchange Corp. will end up auctioning off the bad debt after foreclosure of the property and re-possession by the bank, pension fund or whoever funded the 1st mortgage. That re-possession ALWAYS is turned over to an in-house or outside real estate management firm that can either operate the facility and keep some cash flow in place, thus keeping up the property value based on a cash generating facility OR they will close the building(s) and mitigate the damage to the building(s) until they find a WORTHY buyer. Commercial real estate is a very tough business that is usually populated by businessmen and professionals who have advanced degrees and licenses along with a good deal of experience in one or more areas of real commercial real estate (management, marketing and leasing, development, finance etc).
If you want to move into commercial real estate the BEST MOVE is to either have a degree in real estate, accounting law, business management or the like OR work yourself up from the bottom at a management property management company and learn the ropes as you work in the arena. There is no substitute for experience in this field and NO ONE will transfer or fund a deal where you have nothing to lose in a transaction for commercial real estate. I hope I can save some people some money and painful reality shocks. If you want big money from commercial real estate deals you must learn and understand the game and put your time in along with some old fashioned hard work.
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#3 General Comment

you are being SCAMMED!!! see below!

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)


I will start out by telling you that I own numerous commercial properties and have been contacted by SEVERAL so-called "Junior Partners" of Mr. Gilbert's company.

I have purchased and sold close to 60 million dollars of commercial properties in the past 10 years. I feel sorry for anyone who actually paid money for his silly "rubbish". The form he provides is such a joke that most serious sellers will not even consider taking the time to fill it out. Why are you selling? The partners involved? etc,

IN ADDITION, the criteria he uses for acceptable properties is almost unattainable. Something like 80% equity required. Seriously, who with 80% equity will JV said equity at risk with no upfront money from the other party on a risky development that they do not even control? An investor with this amount of equity in a property will sell the property directly with a non-subordinated acquisition purchase money loan to be taken out prior to construction.

The course reminds me of those "no money down" real estate programs that were so hot in the 80's and of course were all scams. The only one making commercial millions is Jason Gilbert off these poor participants who do not know any better.

One last piece of advice, most commercial sellers are contacted by plenty of prospective buyers. The easiest way we authenticate the source is to ask for a resume showing a track record of previous deals. Something Mr. Gilbert obviously cannot provide.

I am sorry you are being scammed.....If it is any consulation, the Attorney General will probably place these clowns in jail at some point for fraud.

Any serious buyer will pay you for a a good real estate deal without asking for an upfront fee for a useless rudamentary child-like course.

Best of luck

Ps. Ask to see ACTUAL deals this clown has done before you pay any money for his course.


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#4 Consumer Comment

You are not alone...

AUTHOR: NOI - (United States of America)

I went to the MAY seminar for $997 also. This was after they tried to get me for $1497.00

Got a book with some ideas in it and some other various ambiguous information. But then the pitch: $17K or $27K. I told them they had the wrong guy. You see, I am a very successful RESIDENTIAL short sale investor and was simply trying to shift gears for commercial and that I was low maintenance student. Certainly a $17K investment even for their "flagship" product was a waste of my money. After meeting directly with Jason Gilbert himself and dropping a few names we both know and work with in the business, he agreed that a different " partnership" may be in order. That was the last I heard from Jason. After missing a few phone appts I finally got Dutch on the phone and for lack of any good argument basicLLY TOLD ME MY PRICE WOULD BE $10k. I almost went for it. I mean, whats $10K if they deliver HALF of what they say and I put together a deal that could net me $50-$200K conservatively.

I verified with a few people I know who paid upwards of $24K at that seminar and NONE of them stated they have received a fraction of what was promised! NO ONE!

No websites, no proof of funds, no software, no business plans, no documents, same propertys in their "property Vault",  ..NOTHING.  This was enough for me to back out completely.

I felt Jason ( and Dutch) were good guys. Especially Jason seemed to be sincere. Ex military like myself, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But actions speak loudest and Im sorry to say, these guys probably bit off more than they could chew and tried to get some people to pay them to bring THEM deals that they could work and profit from but the left hand doesnt know what the right hand did or said. Im a bit heart broken because I felt they were sincere.

Incidentily, the sales guy who sold me on this (Nick) got this same report from me and he went about investigating it for me. He was abruptly fired and his supervisor whos name was given to me prior and that I was told was going to contact me, has not. Hmmmmm...........

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#5 Consumer Comment

Discretion is the better part of valor

AUTHOR: Danny - (U.S.A.)

The jury is still out on Gilbert / Mendenhall. One fact we can substantiate is that The Commercial Training Institute has close ties with Robert Allen, who passes his "whales" to Gilbert / Mendenhall for further milking, up to 30,000 for a yealy program to partner in their commercial real estate program.

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#6 General Comment

Commercial Short Sales - Jason Gilbert

AUTHOR: sooner1985 - (United States of America)

So from your post, it looks as if you have had a very bad experience thus far.  With the original package you ordered, did that course pay any dividends or provide any value whatsoever? 

It is disheartening to learn that this information is simply a pitch that leads to other guru's courses with only more money being dished out.  This is usually the case and you experienced it first hand for yourself being there in person.  Here is one of the emails that I received:

Still confused by real estate?

Maybe you tried but couldn't get going?

Or perhaps you just want a system that's
easy to follow and proven to work...

In any case, I am here to help.

Call (866) 731-8903 for help.

But you must act fast, because 2010 must
be started right, so another year of wealth
does not pass you by!

I want to not only end the confusion, but
end the frustration as well, and finally get
you going. You're closer to success than
you might think...now let's get you started!

Call (866) 731-8903 now to speak
with one of my staff about how easy it is to
get deals in your pipeline and start profiting.

Look, my methods not only changed my own
life but have created success stories all across
the country. NO ONE is teaching what I am
and that just gives YOU the advantage.

Trust me, you don't have to be a financial
expert or have billions in the bank. You
don't need to dress like Trump and best
of all you do NOT need cash down or credit.

As a matter of fact, you don't need any
experience at all...and I'll prove it!

Give the office a call at (866) 731-8903
and let us show you all the options we have
for you and your future.

Just to warn you, I've seen people let this
pass them by, and they aren't happy about
it...don't be one of them.

You don't have to spin your wheels...

You don't have to frustrated...

You can do this!

Let me show you EXACTLY how.

Call (866) 731-8903 now to learn more.

Thank You,
Jason Gilbert

So he claims this is not confusing and with his system it can be done.  Has anyone out there actually ordered and used his strategies on short sales?  I do believe the market is as he it is, and that for the next two to three years this could make a fortune for those who know.

Please reply back if you feel he is legit and if you feel his information is worth paying for.

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