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Complaint Review: Dollar Store Services - Las Vegas Nevada

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  • Dollar Store Services 5075 W Diablo DR Las Vegas, Nevada USA

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THE TRUTH ABOUT DOLLAR STORE SERVICES-DRSS-DISCOUNT PARTY STORES –MAIL BOX CENTERS

 

We were let go from the company about November of 2014. We waited till our unemployment was finished before giving out this information. We will be 100% truthful even thou it will show that we are also low life. Even when we knew the truth about DRSS we stayed and lied to clients about the most important details because we were told to follow policy.

Let’s start in the dollar store division. We were told to tell prospects that they would get 20%-25% discount on all the products they bought from their connections. At 1st we all thought this was true. I have opened about 35 dollar stores and my friend has open about 20 dollar stores or mail box store combined. These discounts are 100% false.

Merchandise is the most important part of the store. If you cannot get great products at a reasonable price then you’re out of business fast.

From our research our clients tell us that about half of the dollar store products sit on the shelves after the store opens and the items that do sell will cost about 85 cents each plus freight. Freight is included on all opening orders and then may be negotiable. The company tells you the average cost of merchandise is about 54-55 cents. This may be true on the opening order because your store is filled with mostly junk and some good selling brand names. They even say on their web site that they save you 20%-25% on merchandise. THINK ABOUT IT-YOU’RE BUYING MERCHANDISE CHEAPER THAT DOLLAR TREE??--IN THEIR PARTY DIVISION THEY SAY YOU ARE BUYING PRODUCT 35% CHEAPER THAT PARTY CITY??-YOU HAVE TO BE INSANE TO BELIEVE ALL OF THIS .DRSS even records all conversations and they know their reps all spilling this garbage.

Reference’s-HERE IS A BIG JOKE-reps are told only to use new stores as references because they are still excited about opening a new business. As of late 2014 DRSS had opened about 3200 stores but only had about 425 opened at that time. We had to change our cell numbers because too many of our clients were calling and begging for help. GOD couldn’t help these store owners.

They tell you that your dollar store location should generate about $185 per square foot per year in business. Even if that was true and it is not, you can’t keep the doors opened when your markup is about 15%.-20%.

 

FINANCE-If you use their suggested financing you will be getting as many as 8-20 credit cards and told not to cash them until you get instructions from them to liquidate the cards so you can pay DRSS and your new landlord. The next month your FICO score just dropped to about 500 not the 700 plus you had. Your credit is now almost worthless. If you pay cash or use your 401 you can say bye to your money. I CAN PROVIDE YOU OF MANY STORE OWNERS THAT CAN TELL YOU THE SAME OR JUST READ THE COMPLAINTS LISTED ON RIP OFF REPORTS. The credit cards may give you a grace period of no interest and your DRSS finance rep will convince you that you will make enough profit in that time to pay off the credit cards before your free interest rate is up. No store has ever ACCOMPLISHED THIS FEAT. Think about this. If you get $70,000-$100,000 on credit cards and your free interest is for about 1 year, your payment will be about $6,000-$8000 per month to pay them off before your 15%-20% interest rate starts. Only a few stores can even sell that amount of merchandise a month. Maybe if your store was over 5000 feet you may sell that much. Most store are only 1000ft -2000ft in size. There lucky, very lucky to even last one year. READ THE RIP OFF REPORTS.

 

They will tell you that a store will average $185 per foot each year. Let’s take a small store, maybe 1000 square feet. At these low numbers you should generate $185,000 in business your 1st year. Your average mark may be about 25% if you are very lucky and you won’t be. This should generate about $46,000 per year in profit. If your rent is only $2000 per month and your loan payment is just $5000 per month that alone comes to $84,000 paid out in the 1st year not counting insurance, utilities, pay roll and so much more. The numbers don’t lie. You take in $46,000 gross profit and payout at least $84,000 in the 1st year. You’re short about $38,000 plus all the other overhead each month. Your next step will be close the store and probably file bankruptcy later in the year. The larger the store the larger your loss will be.

 

COMMISSION-

We all make commission from your store. Sales reps, finance reps, site location reps and real estate department reps. DRSS has their owned licensed Real Estate company that will also take a very hefty commission when completing the lease. Many clients have told me that they could get a better location on their own for almost 40%-50% lower. We all have the same goal. Get your store open and make our commission. One good thing I will say about DRSS. The owner does try to find a viable site where you may have some hope of survival. One problem with this is there a list of shopping centers that have banned DRSS from getting sites for your store. The shopping center owners or reps have had too many DRSS stores close in the past.

 You don’t have to believe me. Go on line and look up all the stores they have opened in the past 5 years on You Tube. Then Google those stores and talk to the store owners if they are still open. Look on DRSS own web site and Google their store owners and see what they have to say. If they are still open.

Party Stores and Mail Box Centers.  They got so desperate for a good reference they even hired a current mail center owner in Las Vegas to come in and call prospect Mail Center owners and tell them about his store. For some reason he did not last long as a sales rep. At this time his store may still be open. I think he is one of the few success stories that DRSS has. But if his store was doing so well why did he need a job at DRSS.

More about store references. They pay their stores to be a reference if a prospect calls you and you say good things about DRSS. New store owners will say good things the first few months. Once they start complaining they will come off the reference list. DRSS does have a few successful dollar stores over the years. Most of them will tell you once they found their merchandise on their own they had a chance of actually stay in business for a few years.

 

I could go on for days telling you the horror stories that clients have told me or the other reps had shared with me. DRSS will of course defend themselves. They will show you how rip off report is a scam web site. It may be but ALL the people complaining about hundreds or thousands of businesses can’t be just making it up to help Rip Off Report. Thousands of individuals make complaints on Rip Off Report about hundreds of larger companies than DRSS. Since DRSS is a small company they only generate a few complaints. Most of their complaints are true but one is exaggerated. I wonder how many complaints DRSS would get if the 3500 store owners that have open a store with DRSS knew about Rip Off Report? DRSS even blocks access in their building so most employees cannot look up the complaints on Rip Off Reports. Most of us were not aware off all the problems at DRSS until after we had been there for a while but most of us still stayed scamming clients because we needed the job. We both have to be honest. If we had not been fired we would still be working and scamming at DRSS or Dollar Store Services or Mail Box Centers or Party Store Developers. We have talked to many ex-employees of DRSS and they all say about the same things. We knew we were scamming clients but we needed the job. One guy we know worked there for 6-7 years and he knew what was going on but still defends the company even after he was also fired last year. He is either an idiot or a psychopath.  No one in the company that we have known really wants you to fail but there was nothing we could do about it. They told us about 80% of all small startup business fails in the 1st two years. DRSS will not tell you this number because you would never open a store with them. If 80% is average with all new business I wonder what DRSS numbers would be. Maybe 95% failure in the 1st two years??? Maybe even more than 95%, we can only guess because DRSS does not give out those numbers.

Can we prove all that we have reported in this complaint? Probably not but we know are numbers are close. Are we mad at ourselves for working there? Probably not. We were scum doing this to clients. Are we mad at DRSS? Maybe a little angry but also relieved. My blood pressure was off the charts when I was working there and now it’s about normal for a person my age.

I could leave you a phone number or email address to contact me but I think other complaints have email addresses in them from actual store owners. They can tell you 1st hand.

I wish you luck and hope some of you found this report before buying a store from DRSS.  DRSS will call us liars and afraid to say who we are. We all signed non-compete contracts and could possibly be sued by DRSS for telling what we know. Why is the FTC not knocking on their doors? They may be but DRSS is broken up into many smaller companies for tax benefits and may be under the radar. Also store owners may not have complained enough to the FTC. We don’t know but DRSS is not a franchise so they don’t have to follow all the same rules of dis closure.

GOOD LUCK-Even if 1% of this is true you should run. In this case we think 100% is the truth.

 

 

 

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#6 Consumer Comment

Agree Completely

AUTHOR: Voice Of Truth - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 27, 2016

Initially, you are told "Funding" and "Loans."  It is only after they believe they have sold you on this opportunity, that the actual "Funding" is revealed as credit cards, HOWEVER, even after being told credit cards, you are told 4-5 credit cards, not 8+ credit cards.

We were unsure about moving forward after finding out credit cards would be used.  After, several telephone conversations we decided to move forward, anyway and proceed with "Funding Approval" as they call it.   

 

Now, let us move on to the comments from the owner on the original post.

 

Representatives DO tell you how much you will make per sq. ft., per year, make comparisons to other stores yes, they NAME stores and, they also tell you, the credit cards WILL be paid off before interest kicks in.  You can refer to your "Literature and what your sales staff is INSTRUCTED to give" all you want, these are things that are said to us, when your people are trying to seal the deal.

 

The original poster did not claim the "Minimum Payments" would be $6,000-8,000, he/she simply stated the payment REQUIRED to pay the balances off before interest kicks in would be $6,000-8,000.  Do the math, this is not a lie as you claim!

 

We also asked about a bank loan after being told about the credit cards.  We were told "Credit Cards are your only option.  You should be happy, this eliminates the need for a bank."  How was that OUR decision?

 

We started looking at spaces, when we were waiting for the final credit card approvals to come through and, we were yelled at for seeking out a location.  We were told "You can't look for a location!  WE look for the location!  WE find the best location for you!"  Now, since, you want to keep referring to "Your Literature", YOUR LITERATURE states YOU, AS STORE OWNER approve the location.......the look and feel of a large franchise, while leaving you in total control of your business......soooo, why were we yelled at for seeking a location?  

 

Being yelled at for trying to take part in our own store really took the excitement out of opening a store.  

 

This was going to be OUR business and, we should have been able to participate in any and every aspect we chose to!  Seeking a location was part of the excitement and, when we couldn't even do that, the excitement was gone and, the fear from the debt we were about to accumulate set in.  

 

The final approvals actually turned out to be denials so, between being yelling at and only receiving enough in credit cards to open the store, we chose not to move forward.  Being yelled at by your staff screwed you out of our money and kept it on our cards!  BRAVO to you and your sales staff for that one!

 

Let me clarify the funding received for those still having questions on this one.   We received enough in credit cards for store opening and nothing more---We had no money to buy food or pay our own bills!  How were WE supposed to survive?  Consider this when making your decision on whether to move forward.  

 

Making the decision not to move forward is when it really got fun!  Mention a refund and everyone in the company calls you trying to talk you into moving forward.  The person you were dealing with is no longer with the company so, this wasn't documented and that wasn't documented.  Then, someone else will tell you the person you were dealing with had a death in the family and has been out of the office for that.  She didn't document this or that so, we can't verify.   No one has been monitoring her emails so, that's why no one has gotten back with you.  Excuse after excuse.

 

Once, they know you are not going to move forward your calls and emails are ignored.  It was only after contacting the BBB that I finally started receiving phone calls.  They will not email you.  They don't want you to have written proof of anything, so, it will be phone calls that you receive, at this point.  

 

During these phone calls, they will tell you, you will receive a refund but, in their responses to the BBB they fight giving a refund.  And, amazingly, once they are responding to the BBB, they suddenly have the emails that they didn't have two weeks ago.  Ultimately, after fighting and refusing to give up, we did end up getting a refund.

 

The sales person we were dealing with called us in October 2015 and asked if were still looking to open a store and offered us a discount.  Ummmmmm, I DON'T THINK SO!

 

And, I wouldn't be so smug about the "Lack of Complaints."  Many people just don't want to bother with it, others are ashamed that they allowed this to happen and, many more don't realize these websites exist!  The complaints that you do find all pretty much have the same complaints......GOOGLE AND BING, PEOPLE---DO YOUR RESEARCH!

 

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#5 Consumer Comment

Time to be honest DRSS!

AUTHOR: Texas Client - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, August 22, 2015

Being a client of DRSS, I will most certainly call you out on A few of your rebuttals towards your ex employees.

REFERENCE - FINANCING - COMPLAINTS - I was a reference for your company for a few months. I was also discovering things about your company. I felt that it was in my best interest to share this information with your references. I advised them not to finance with lines of credit. DRSS told me when I financed that I would receive a loan. They NEVER stated that it would be 9 credit cards. I believed that & as these credit cards began coming my way, I still believed that there would be a loan & that the cards would be used torwards working capital & utilized upon my discretion. With a credit score of 765 that would tell you that I was a responsible individual & not a negligent individual by maxing out 9 credit cards. I even asked about a business plan. I was told not to worry DRSS was taking care of my business plan. Why didn't you just say that I wouldn't need one because I would end up with 9 credit cards & that would be my financing? Because you KNOW that you would have lost my business. EXACTLY CORRECT! That's DECEPTION! I shared that information with your references. I also told them how my credit score dropped from 765 to 500. One day, I was contacted by Christina Olmos who no longer works for you and her exact words were "can you please stop telling the potential clients about the credit card thing because your scaring them away." Wow! Is all I could think of. As long as I was souping your company up it was gravy. however, telling the truth was scaring them away. Why didn't y'all tell me the truth? In response to Christina, I asked to be removed from the reference list if I couldn't be honest. Had you viewed my financial condition properly, you would have seen that my credit was outstanding, my bills were paid on time, I did not have much debt & YOU SHOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR A BANK LOAN AS YOU PROMISED ME! DRSS never communicated types of loan(s) as you put it. I even asked for a SBA loan & was told that the loan trough the bank that you go through would be much quicker. YOU SHOULD HAVE STATED THAT THEY WERE CREDIT CARDS! Complaints - Great record? Stop the madness! It cost roughly $2000 to have negative complaints removed And know of at least 20 of your clients that's VERY pissed with DRSS, yes, I have a list so let's not be so confident with your company's so called excellent track record. Why not take ALL the videos down of your store closures & see how that minimizes the look for your company. DRSS, why not inform your potential clients about your clauses in your contracts as well? Let them know that once they sign the contract and find out what your really about, they have signed away their rights to take legal action against you for your deception and fraud you put them through.

Those employees accusations "are the TRUTH!" I actually commend them for speaking up and being honest about DRSS and even placing themselves line of fire.

 

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#4 General Comment

HaHaHaHa!!!!! This is too funny , James , the owner

AUTHOR: Taken Advantage - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, July 25, 2015

James,

Your lining your pockets with all our hard earn money and don't give a sh*t about families loosing their homes and claiming bankruptcy so of course your going to write this rebuttal because you don't want the gravy train to end.

Listen anyone reading this I have all my documentation from the over priced build out to the merchandised purchased by DRSS that had a lot of .80 to .85 items to the low end junk that dollar tree doesn't sell and sits on your selves.

Please don't listen to James (THE OWNER) he needs you to believe him because he enjoys crushing people' lives while he itakes those $60,000, $90,000, $100,000 what ever big cashiers checks he gets and laughs to the bank, goes home, kicks back and looks at his bank account and laughs again.

Guess what your days are numbered and the JOKE WILL BE ON YOU!!!!!!

my name is Martcia Calvillo and my e-mail is samps10@yahoo.com and I have a growing list of Dollar Store owners so please e-mail and join us.

If you are a Mailbox, teen store or party store please joins us too. I am sure you had a similar experience

We need to get our lives back to where they were before handing all our money over to DRSS and celebrate after taking the BIG BULLY down.

REMEMBER I HAVE DOCYMENTATION THAT SUPPORTS WHAT I AM SAYING AND DRSS DOESN'T

 

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

RESPONSE TO RIP OFF REPORT OF PAUL AND DOUG DATED JULY 3, 2015

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, July 24, 2015

RESPONSE TO RIP OFF REPORT OF PAUL AND DOUG DATED JULY 3, 2015

This is the company’s response to the posting filed by Paul and Doug, former sales representatives who were terminated due to dishonesty.  A law suit against them is being prepared to combat the false, libelous, slanderous and other allegations made against the company and by extension the 80 hard working employees who focus every single day to make the dreams of our clients a reality. 

The following response is in order of the posting.  #1 - “lied to clients” is found in the last sentence of paragraph one of the posting.  #2 – 20-25% discount on product is found in the 2nd sentence of paragraph two, and so forth…

  1.  “Lied to clients…” – FALSE – the company has never instructed any employee to lie.  All the information in our brochures and websites is 100% factual and this is the same information the sales staff is directed to present to interested parties.   We take great pride in our ethics. The accusation is a LIE.
  2. “20-25% discount on products…” ( is a lie) – FALSE- The company does verify the discounts our store owners receive.  Each supplier has a list price for every product they offer and we compare that price to the cost our store owners pay to verify that on a store wide average the discount level ranges from 20%-25%. The discounts on individual products might be more than this range or less but when averaging all products we put in the store this range is true and saves our store owners tens of thousands of dollars each and every year because of our vast purchasing power as the largest developer of independently owned retail stores in North America with almost 4,000 stores opened in the past 20 years.  The accusation made is a LIE.
  3. “About half of the products sit on the shelves…” – FALSE – the products that we put into our stores on the initial order are almost identical to the products that Dollar Tree sells.  Dollar Tree is the largest corporate dollar store company in the world and if these products did not sell for them they would not offer them.  Compare our products from our website to what Dollar Tree offers in their stores and you will easily see that the accusation made is a LIE.    
  4. “Items that do sell cost 85 cents each, plus freight…” – FALSE – For the initial order we place dollar store in partnership with the client to get their store open there typically isn’t ONE single product that costs 85 cents or more, unless requested by the client.  This is easily verified through the invoices we possess.  Their accusation is a pure LIE.
  5. “Buying cheaper than Dollar Tree…” –FALSE - in our brochure it states “a store owner can save 20-25% on the cost of merchandise offered in our network”.   We never compare our cost to what Dollar Tree pays for product.  In our brochure and website we do not even mention Dollar
    Tree so their accusation is again a pure LIE.
  6. “Cheaper than Party City…” – FALSE - same answer as #5, we never have compared our cost to what Party City pays for merchandise so this accusation also is a LIE.
  7. “Use only new stores as reference because they are excited…” – TRUE –and also so the prospective new store owner can validate the work the company is PRESENTLY doing for their clients.  Older store owners are also routinely used for reference calls.  Their inference that providing new store owners as a reference is false.
  8. “425 stores opened at the time…” – FALSE – How could 2 salesmen who worked here 3 years or less have any idea how many stores we opened in 1994, 1997 or 2002 or any other year to determine whether or not these store owners are still in business?  Because there is no way for them to know this information their accusation is a LIE.
  9. “Store location should generate $185 per square foot…” – FALSE –Nowhere in any of our literature does it mention this number.  We never state a blanket sales per square foot number because every store location is unique; the sales potential per square foot depends on many different variables including traffic that comes into the center, whether it is anchored or not, how far away the competition is, population within 1 and 3 miles, traffic counts at the main intersection to mention a few.  Every single store site has different sales per square foot potential.  Their accusation is a LIE. 
  10. “Can’t survive on a markup of 15%-20%...” - In #4 above they state the only product that sells cost 85 cents plus freight.  If freight runs 5 cents an item then the gross profit margin would be 10%, this statement now says it is 15%-20%.  Even their own logic is inconsistent, made up and a lie.
  11. “If you use their suggested financing…” – FALSE –We review the client’s financial condition and communicate the type of loan(s) they can probably qualify for.  Our client’s use equity lines of credit, pay cash, borrow against a retirement account, use hard asset lending, credit cards and many other options.  The decision about how to fund the store, like every decision in our program is made by the client.  Their accusation is a LIE.
  12. “Or just read the complaints listed on rip off report…” – TRUE - Rip off report is the best testament my company has.  Think about it, opening over 3,500 stores and only having 16  postings listed.  It’s unbelievable that any company could have such a great record and it’s a testament that we do exactly what our brochure and website state we do.  Thank you for your validation.
  13. “Your payment is $6-$8,000 per month…” – FALSE – the average monthly payment is 1 ½ - 2 % of the outstanding balance so in their example of a $100,000 loan the monthly payment  would be at the most $2,000 not the $6,000-$8,000 they state so  again their accusation is a complete LIE.
  14. “$185 per foot and average gross profit margin is 25%...” – FALSE – already addressed in #9 and #2.          
  15. “Should generate $46,000 in profit…” – FALSE – I think they went “ profit” when they should have said gross profit margin.  The whole premise in this paragraph is flawed.  In personally being involved in buying merchandise for 1,000 stores and working merchandise suppliers for 22 years nobody knows the value of merchandise and the cost that should be paid better than myself, nobody, and I can tell you we have the ability to buy beautiful merchandise at an average cost of 52-54 cents per item.  Look at the pictures on our website, do you see junk?  Of course not.  Listen to testimonials of store owners, do they talk down the merchandise we provide, not one time in fact store owners go on and on about how great our merchandise is.
  16. “Many clients have told me they could get a better location at 50% less…” – WOW – In real estate our in-house staff of seasoned licensed Real Estate professionals generally negotiate 30% off the asking rents, along with securing months of free rent and other concessions.  To think that a client who probably has never negotiated a single commercial lease is going to get another 50% off is simply insane.  This is most stupid accusation in this entire complaint.  Clearly, nothing more than a fabricated LIE.  Also, clients routinely notify us of sites they find in their community and we welcome this.  Their accusation intimates we force clients to accept a store location we identify which is a complete LIE.  100% of the time the client selects their store location.
  17. “The owner does try to find a viable site…” – TRUE –  
  18. “Shopping centers have banned…” – FALSE – I have no knowledge of being banned from any shopping center.  Because my company opens over 200 stores EACH year shopping center owners and brokers call us almost daily with sites they have available that they want our clients to take. 
  19. “They pay their stores to be a reference…” – TRUE – Everybody’s time is worth something and we are happy to compensate store owners who take time out of their busy day to take reference calls.  We will compensate you also when we open your store!
  20. “Rip off report is a scam website…”- ?? – the problem with rip off report is that anybody can post anything at anytime without substantiating any claims, like what happened in this case, nothing more than a bunch of unfounded claims made by two disgruntled former terminated employees.
  21. “Maybe even more than 95%...” -FALSE – if 95% of the stores went out of business that would mean that only 160 stores remain open, but earlier in the complaint they allege 425 stores are open so again ALL their numbers are fabrications and have no basis in fact.  The accusation is a complete LIE.            

We look forward to discuss this posting and our answers, please contact John LaFronz, General Manager of Dollar Store Services at ext. 134.

James Wichert

Owner                 
 

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#2 Consumer Comment

I affirm this report

AUTHOR: justice - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, July 11, 2015

I just wanted to say I can confirm everything in this report as I am a recent store owner.  Within my first month of business I discovered product not moving,  a lot of it, pricing that was incredibly off as it related to the cost of goods and my average cost was over $.80 when I factored in freight and MANY margins were only at 10%-15% and I discovered several products that were priced below my cost when they came and setup the store. I can also attest to the credit card "scheme" they use.  You are setup to fail.  Those are strong words but it is my experience.  I would love to get every penny they scammed me for back.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Thank you

AUTHOR: Samps - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, July 05, 2015

thank you so much but I would love to talk to you i was a store owner that lost everything my number is 916-606-8700 thank you

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