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Complaint Review: Horizon OutDoors - nicnac.net - Nick Wagner - Valparaiso Indiana

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  • Horizon OutDoors - nicnac.net - Nick Wagner 3158 Hevilin Road Valparaiso, Indiana U.S.A.

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I recently ordered a knife from Nick Wagner of nicnac.net. I ordered a very nice Protech and rather inexpensive clone. When I got the order only the cheap clone was in the package. I called to see when I would get my new Protech ($249.50) and was told the order was filled and that I must have dropped it when I opened the box! Then I was told I shouldn't worry that the package was insured and that UPS would compensate me!

I just wish I had checked this THEIF out before buying a knife from him. I have since researched and found that his prices are at least 40% above his competitors and that he has a history of doing this to people. I have learned what "buyer beware" means the hard way! Spread the word about this guy!

Richard
Kingston, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#23 Consumer Comment

Satisfied

AUTHOR: Casey - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 10, 2010


 I ordered a Microtech Ultratech SE from Horizon Outdoors and the deal worked out GREAT! When I placed my order, it was for a black tactical ultratech, which was not in stock so Joyce upgraded my order to a black tactical with carbon fiber scales (Sweet).



The order was sent out the day after I placed (I am on the west coast) Im more that satisfied with their service and will buy from them again.



Thanks Nick & Joyce.



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#22 Consumer Comment

Nick Wagner,Horizon,nicnak.net

AUTHOR: Roy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 14, 2008

I have done business with Nick for 7 years without a problem, except now, after a brief lapse of time, he claims he does not know me and dismisses my emails to him about an order or question about a particular product.

Previous purchases, and emails went without a hitch, no problems, have had 7+ orders arrive from him and all were correct.

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#21 Consumer Comment

Residential Number listed for the Horizon Outdoors.

AUTHOR: Home Owner - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 07, 2007

Hello, I am a new resident of Valparaiso, IN with a new telephone number which used to belong to Horizon Outdoors when it was located in Valparaiso (219-462-1219). Your reports list my new residential number which causes me a lot of trouble. There are several phone calls for the Horizon Outdoors per week which are disturbing to my family. If you could please post the information about their new numbers, I'd appreciate it. The new address and numbers are (as taken from their website):

Brevard, North Carolina 28712
United States
Phone: 828-884-4302 (M-F 12:00 noon to 5:00 PM)
Fax: 1-360-343-2438
Order from: Phone: 828-884-4302 ( 9:00 am to 5:00pm CST, M-F)
Order from: Fax: NO Fax orders Please
Email: Sales@nicnac.net
http://www.nicnac.net

Thank you very much,

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#20 Consumer Comment

Horizon / Nicnac.net is among the best in the business, Ask ANY MANUFACTURER if you aren't sure. Read ALL of the rebutals to SEE THE TRUTH.

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 25, 2007

It's obvious that Brad Skipper of Swinguard has mounted a personal attack on Horizon Outdoors. The reason is that the owner of Horizon and a group of "watchdogs" that monitor the knife business, have proven time and again that Brad Skipper is a con and, while his prices are cheaper than some, he only sends product that his customers pay good money for, some of the time. I hope anybody reading this realizes what is going on here and is smart enough to read between the lines. The bad press on Brad "swinguard" skipper is everywhere on the knife forums and most companies won't even deal with him. Horizon, on the other hand, has a spotless reputation when it comes to standing behind their service. If you have a question, ask the manufacturer of the knives. They will tell yu that Horizon is among the best in the business.

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#19 Consumer Comment

truth hurts

AUTHOR: Al - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Hey Nick just look at the difference of the prices you charge and the prices Brad charges . The TRUTH HURTS!

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#18 UPDATE Employee

That's right Al. evidence against your master is voluminous

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 08, 2006

Funny how you Bradites think profits are evil but lying, cheating, stealing, manipulating and damaging others good reputations are all sweetness and light.

Do you really expect a full service website with the a stock as large as nicnacs to sell merchandise for the same price as auction goods??

That's just not too smart. It looks more like you are just trying to manufacture negative things to say whether they make sense or not.

None of the people that write these bad rip off reports know Nick personally, as you have admitted you don't. They let Brad Skipper from swinguard forum tell them what to think and then tell them where to go write it. That gets his lies out but insulates him from being the one that wrote them. You poor mindless minions are all the same. You read the posts on swinguards forum lapping them up like so much cool aid while your cult leader, Brad Skipper, weaves his lies, creates smokescreens to cloud the truth and censors, deletes and bans posters that don't follow his lead. Sure you believe what Brad tells you to believe. He won't allow any differing opinions to be posted. You have been brainwashed.

You don't know Nick yet you speak lies about him that you have no basis for. I defy you to find any substantiation to these lies. There isn't any. With all of the OPEN foroms you would think if these statements made by Brad Skipper and his cultmembers were true there would be evidence of it. Yet there is none.

The evidence against your master is voluminous. He has been exiled from every other forum but his own. Numerouse people have complained of being stolen from, lied to, lied about, tricked, conned and manipulated by Brad Skipper on many forums. Brad has been caught in so many lies he doesn't show his favce on open forums where people can openly question him. He sends his minions out with lies so he can't be blamed for them.

You can go ahead and believe his lies. Do his bidding knowing that you are spreading lies created to cover up Brads wrongdoings though.

Put down the kool aid and smell the coffee. Look beyond what some liar tells you to think on a forum that he controls.

Ask yourself why so many people, respected longtime friends and members, just disappear one day. They disappear because they have found out about Brads lies. Brads shuts them up right away by banning them and blocking their IP addresses so they can't post or read posts. Many times he then begins a smear campaign on them behind their backs.

Is it any wonder he has so many people upset with him. When he does it to you you'll be angry too.

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#17 UPDATE Employee

That's right Al. evidence against your master is voluminous

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 08, 2006

Funny how you Bradites think profits are evil but lying, cheating, stealing, manipulating and damaging others good reputations are all sweetness and light.

Do you really expect a full service website with the a stock as large as nicnacs to sell merchandise for the same price as auction goods??

That's just not too smart. It looks more like you are just trying to manufacture negative things to say whether they make sense or not.

None of the people that write these bad rip off reports know Nick personally, as you have admitted you don't. They let Brad Skipper from swinguard forum tell them what to think and then tell them where to go write it. That gets his lies out but insulates him from being the one that wrote them. You poor mindless minions are all the same. You read the posts on swinguards forum lapping them up like so much cool aid while your cult leader, Brad Skipper, weaves his lies, creates smokescreens to cloud the truth and censors, deletes and bans posters that don't follow his lead. Sure you believe what Brad tells you to believe. He won't allow any differing opinions to be posted. You have been brainwashed.

You don't know Nick yet you speak lies about him that you have no basis for. I defy you to find any substantiation to these lies. There isn't any. With all of the OPEN foroms you would think if these statements made by Brad Skipper and his cultmembers were true there would be evidence of it. Yet there is none.

The evidence against your master is voluminous. He has been exiled from every other forum but his own. Numerouse people have complained of being stolen from, lied to, lied about, tricked, conned and manipulated by Brad Skipper on many forums. Brad has been caught in so many lies he doesn't show his favce on open forums where people can openly question him. He sends his minions out with lies so he can't be blamed for them.

You can go ahead and believe his lies. Do his bidding knowing that you are spreading lies created to cover up Brads wrongdoings though.

Put down the kool aid and smell the coffee. Look beyond what some liar tells you to think on a forum that he controls.

Ask yourself why so many people, respected longtime friends and members, just disappear one day. They disappear because they have found out about Brads lies. Brads shuts them up right away by banning them and blocking their IP addresses so they can't post or read posts. Many times he then begins a smear campaign on them behind their backs.

Is it any wonder he has so many people upset with him. When he does it to you you'll be angry too.

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#16 UPDATE Employee

That's right Al. evidence against your master is voluminous

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 08, 2006

Funny how you Bradites think profits are evil but lying, cheating, stealing, manipulating and damaging others good reputations are all sweetness and light.

Do you really expect a full service website with the a stock as large as nicnacs to sell merchandise for the same price as auction goods??

That's just not too smart. It looks more like you are just trying to manufacture negative things to say whether they make sense or not.

None of the people that write these bad rip off reports know Nick personally, as you have admitted you don't. They let Brad Skipper from swinguard forum tell them what to think and then tell them where to go write it. That gets his lies out but insulates him from being the one that wrote them. You poor mindless minions are all the same. You read the posts on swinguards forum lapping them up like so much cool aid while your cult leader, Brad Skipper, weaves his lies, creates smokescreens to cloud the truth and censors, deletes and bans posters that don't follow his lead. Sure you believe what Brad tells you to believe. He won't allow any differing opinions to be posted. You have been brainwashed.

You don't know Nick yet you speak lies about him that you have no basis for. I defy you to find any substantiation to these lies. There isn't any. With all of the OPEN foroms you would think if these statements made by Brad Skipper and his cultmembers were true there would be evidence of it. Yet there is none.

The evidence against your master is voluminous. He has been exiled from every other forum but his own. Numerouse people have complained of being stolen from, lied to, lied about, tricked, conned and manipulated by Brad Skipper on many forums. Brad has been caught in so many lies he doesn't show his favce on open forums where people can openly question him. He sends his minions out with lies so he can't be blamed for them.

You can go ahead and believe his lies. Do his bidding knowing that you are spreading lies created to cover up Brads wrongdoings though.

Put down the kool aid and smell the coffee. Look beyond what some liar tells you to think on a forum that he controls.

Ask yourself why so many people, respected longtime friends and members, just disappear one day. They disappear because they have found out about Brads lies. Brads shuts them up right away by banning them and blocking their IP addresses so they can't post or read posts. Many times he then begins a smear campaign on them behind their backs.

Is it any wonder he has so many people upset with him. When he does it to you you'll be angry too.

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#15 UPDATE Employee

That's right Al. evidence against your master is voluminous

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 08, 2006

Funny how you Bradites think profits are evil but lying, cheating, stealing, manipulating and damaging others good reputations are all sweetness and light.

Do you really expect a full service website with the a stock as large as nicnacs to sell merchandise for the same price as auction goods??

That's just not too smart. It looks more like you are just trying to manufacture negative things to say whether they make sense or not.

None of the people that write these bad rip off reports know Nick personally, as you have admitted you don't. They let Brad Skipper from swinguard forum tell them what to think and then tell them where to go write it. That gets his lies out but insulates him from being the one that wrote them. You poor mindless minions are all the same. You read the posts on swinguards forum lapping them up like so much cool aid while your cult leader, Brad Skipper, weaves his lies, creates smokescreens to cloud the truth and censors, deletes and bans posters that don't follow his lead. Sure you believe what Brad tells you to believe. He won't allow any differing opinions to be posted. You have been brainwashed.

You don't know Nick yet you speak lies about him that you have no basis for. I defy you to find any substantiation to these lies. There isn't any. With all of the OPEN foroms you would think if these statements made by Brad Skipper and his cultmembers were true there would be evidence of it. Yet there is none.

The evidence against your master is voluminous. He has been exiled from every other forum but his own. Numerouse people have complained of being stolen from, lied to, lied about, tricked, conned and manipulated by Brad Skipper on many forums. Brad has been caught in so many lies he doesn't show his favce on open forums where people can openly question him. He sends his minions out with lies so he can't be blamed for them.

You can go ahead and believe his lies. Do his bidding knowing that you are spreading lies created to cover up Brads wrongdoings though.

Put down the kool aid and smell the coffee. Look beyond what some liar tells you to think on a forum that he controls.

Ask yourself why so many people, respected longtime friends and members, just disappear one day. They disappear because they have found out about Brads lies. Brads shuts them up right away by banning them and blocking their IP addresses so they can't post or read posts. Many times he then begins a smear campaign on them behind their backs.

Is it any wonder he has so many people upset with him. When he does it to you you'll be angry too.

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#14 Consumer Comment

Know not NICK ,But HIGH Prices

AUTHOR: Al - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006

I do not know Nick personally , but i do know that the prices he charges is extremely high in comparison with other dealers and auctions.

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#13 Consumer Comment

Know not NICK ,But HIGH Prices

AUTHOR: Al - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006

I do not know Nick personally , but i do know that the prices he charges is extremely high in comparison with other dealers and auctions.

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#12 Consumer Comment

Know not NICK ,But HIGH Prices

AUTHOR: Al - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006

I do not know Nick personally , but i do know that the prices he charges is extremely high in comparison with other dealers and auctions.

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#11 Consumer Comment

Know not NICK ,But HIGH Prices

AUTHOR: Al - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006

I do not know Nick personally , but i do know that the prices he charges is extremely high in comparison with other dealers and auctions.

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#10 UPDATE Employee

Thankful for the truth.

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, March 30, 2006

Thank you for the rebutal and the truth behind these lies perpetrated by an unscrupulous competitor who sends his lackys out to do this sort of thing because he doesn't have the balls to do it himself.

He will do almost anything to keep from having any blame for anything stick to him.

Someday people will know the truth and he will have a WHOLE BUNCH of explaining to do.

So far though he posts his venom on a forum he controls where he deletes posts and bans members who don't bow to kiss his poisoned ring.

He won't come out onto public forums because he knows too many uncensored people know the tryuth.

His followers aperently aren't smart enough to recognize how they are being used and manipulated for the benefit of this sweet talking conjurer of lies and deciet.

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#9 Consumer Comment

Outrageous

AUTHOR: Jesse - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 14, 2005

I just wanted to say that i'am a customer of Horizon Outdoors and have never had any trouble with them whatsoever!They are an Honest and Trustworthy Company and will not rip you off!

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#8 Consumer Comment

Outrageous

AUTHOR: Jesse - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 14, 2005

I just wanted to say that i'am a customer of Horizon Outdoors and have never had any trouble with them whatsoever!They are an Honest and Trustworthy Company and will not rip you off!

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#7 Consumer Comment

Outrageous

AUTHOR: Jesse - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 14, 2005

I just wanted to say that i'am a customer of Horizon Outdoors and have never had any trouble with them whatsoever!They are an Honest and Trustworthy Company and will not rip you off!

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#6 Consumer Comment

Outrageous

AUTHOR: Jesse - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 14, 2005

I just wanted to say that i'am a customer of Horizon Outdoors and have never had any trouble with them whatsoever!They are an Honest and Trustworthy Company and will not rip you off!

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#5 Consumer Comment

Ridiculous

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2005

Have done business with this company for many years and have always been treated honestly, fairly, and respectfully. I have never had any experience like the ones mentioned in the reports, this is one of the best of this type of business on the interne5t, and these allegations are ridiculous. I personally know many people who had done business with Horizon Outdoors and have never had any problems whatsoever. I will continue to do business with this company now and in the future and will recommend it to my friends as well. The negative reports are probability a personal vendetta and are unfounded and not true.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Ridiculous

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2005

Have done business with this company for many years and have always been treated honestly, fairly, and respectfully. I have never had any experience like the ones mentioned in the reports, this is one of the best of this type of business on the interne5t, and these allegations are ridiculous. I personally know many people who had done business with Horizon Outdoors and have never had any problems whatsoever. I will continue to do business with this company now and in the future and will recommend it to my friends as well. The negative reports are probability a personal vendetta and are unfounded and not true.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Ridiculous

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2005

Have done business with this company for many years and have always been treated honestly, fairly, and respectfully. I have never had any experience like the ones mentioned in the reports, this is one of the best of this type of business on the interne5t, and these allegations are ridiculous. I personally know many people who had done business with Horizon Outdoors and have never had any problems whatsoever. I will continue to do business with this company now and in the future and will recommend it to my friends as well. The negative reports are probability a personal vendetta and are unfounded and not true.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Ridiculous

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2005

Have done business with this company for many years and have always been treated honestly, fairly, and respectfully. I have never had any experience like the ones mentioned in the reports, this is one of the best of this type of business on the interne5t, and these allegations are ridiculous. I personally know many people who had done business with Horizon Outdoors and have never had any problems whatsoever. I will continue to do business with this company now and in the future and will recommend it to my friends as well. The negative reports are probability a personal vendetta and are unfounded and not true.

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#1 Consumer Comment

please ignore

AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 12, 2005

Hi ,first off i'd like to say that I AM the real richard from kingston. someone used my name to make it look like I have a problem with Nick.
Just the opposite ,Nick is one of the most respected sellers in the business.
I know that this is an attempt to slander his good name by another seller who has several legitimate complaints filed against him.
There are hundreds if not thousands who can attest to the quality of service and merchandise supplied by Nick and his company.
If needed ,I will personally ask them to all come forward and post this, please don't believe a word of this other report .
I did not write it ...I know who did ,but will not stoop to his level and post his name.
thank you
The real Richard from Kingston Ma.

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