14DailyPlus - 14 Daily Plus - Bill Fox - Tony Renfrow - Holton Buggs ripoff Advertising Scam 14DailyPlus drew me in with legitimate business and took my investment with no payment! Folsom California

I agree with many of the statements that you made in your rebuttal. The only problem is you dont know all the details about the 14Daily Scam. I do not know personally if Holton Buggs took cash out of the system, and paid himself. I do know that Bill Fox did take cash. I also know that Bill was following Holtons lead with how he approached 14Daily. They were both the Kingpins, so to speak, of their respective cities. They both profited a ridiculous amount of money, and others lost thousands.

Why is that important? Had they played by the rules and put all of the money into the system then everyone on here would be saying they got scammed by Tony Renfrow. The fact is that Bill Fox did not play by the rules. He took CASH out and put it in his pocket. That is theft no matter how you put it.

The individuals that invested the money didnt stand a chance of getting it back because large portions of it never went into the company like it was supposed to.

I have read through this complaint and several similiar ones regarding the alleged scammers and although i empathize with those who seem to be the "victim" and validate their emotions, i don't hear a good argument for why 3 people should not be trusted because She (the alleged victim) made a calculated choice (for whatever reason) to make an investment (which most understand denotes risk).

I would have like to have heard more substantiated claims and not assumptions like these people pocketed the money and used this money to buy the mansions in which they live. How does she know that this is what they did with the money and that they actually kept the money. It's not clear if all 3 of the people took her money and kept it for themselves and bought the homes they live in. (Now did the people in question buy the homes they live in after they got involved in this opportunity or did they have them prior to this particular opportunity. Has the alleged victim communicated with those who got her involved and what did they say when she addressed these issues with each of them which i am sure she must have done prior to posting something that could be damaging to a person's reputation.

As i read this complaint, i was wondering if the alleged victim talked to the alleged perpetrators to find out what they thought about the opportunity when they recommended it and what was their thought process as they made their calculated decision to get involved in the company when they got involved as well. Did the alleged victim have anyone who got involved in this opportunity because of her credibility and if so, would that person or those persons be justified in also writing up a complaint about her because they based their decision to get started upon her credibility or would she want her freind to understand that she doesn't own the company and went through her own deliberating process like the friend did and did not know either.

If this were me, these are some of the questions i would pursue or ask myself prior to deciding whether i would choose victim status as oppose to victor status. I would also at least give the person who introduce me the benefit of the doubt, based upon my personal experience with them and my beliefs about their character until i found out they really did scam me (which suggests to me, intent).

I think that this site provides people with an opportunity to vent and get things off their chest, however, one of the things that i find missing in this situation is ownership. Most people don't take ownership for their decisions. No one put a gun up to your head, you seemed to have done a thorough job investigating the information to make the calculated decision to take a risk of getting a return on $9k or losing the entire amount waged.

In my opinion, as soon as you take some responsibility for your own decision to get involved, you will grow and learn from the experience.

Now let me say, I only know 1 of the people in question personally, (from a mentor/mentee standpoint. Holton Buggs, in my opinion is one of the best leaders i know and has gone out of his way to help so many people like myself learn principles and techniques to help us grow financially, intellectually, spiritually, and personally. Although he's not perfect, i have never known him to intentionally do anything to hurt people financially or have the philosophy that he has to take from others in order to succeed. I literally know numerous people who are financially free because of the heart and labor of Mr. Buggs.

Isn't paradoxical that we're reading a report about someone who allegedly scammed someone who literally stated that they got involved because of the character & integrity of this person. It seems that prior to this experience, all previous experiences with the alleged perpretrator were on the up & up so much so that it was one of the factors that helped the alleged victim decide she would take the risk and invest yet since she did not have a profitable outcome, these 3 guys are now the cause of it and none of the responsibility is hers.

Do you ever read any of these where people take responsibility for their part in their situation. I also wonder how many people who read these really take into account that there are always 2 or 3 sides to every story.