- Report: #400102
Report - Rebuttal - Arbitrate
Complaint Review: Center Of Forensic Profiling - Ms. Treyce DGabriel
Center Of Forensic Profiling - Ms. Treyce DGabriel13045 W. Rancho Santa Fe Blvd. Suite 103-422 Avondale, Arizona 85392 Internet U.S.A.
Center Of Forensic Profiling, Ms. Treyce DGabriel No license, No morals, No problem. It just makes it that much easier for me to take your money. Avondale, Arizona Internet
*Consumer Comment: False Allegations Regarding Treyce Montoya
*UPDATE Employee: Emotional and wrong!
*Consumer Comment: Excellent Service
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: * IMPORTANT UPDATE *
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: This is rediculous !
The polygraph was going to be to expensive, so following a less expensive route she turned to someone she heard speak at a rotary meeting. Ms Treyce d'Gabriel who runs something called "Center of Forensic Profiling". She specializes in something called handwriting analysis. I've never heard of this in anything other than forgery and identity theft cases. I was immediately suspicious as earlier my wife had gone behind my back, stolen some of my paperwork and had a preliminary analysis done which I was TOLD (never saw it) said all kinds of terrible things about me. Again since I didn't DO anything wrong and I didn't feel like hearing about it forever..
So the report comes back. Apparently nobody has informed Ms. d'Gabriel that the types of profiles and reports she generates can't be transmitted via email as it is a direct violation of a person's HIPAA rights. But no matter, Her email starts by describing her billing practices and telling my wife that she will take a few extra days to get the rest of it done as she's working on an international kidnapping case involving a 4yo girl and it's a matter of life and death. Uh, excuse me but what does that have to do with anything? Why do I care or need to know about that? Then she proceeds to FURTHER explain her billing and offer some additional options so my wife can BUY HER PROGRAM because shes done a prelim on me (again) and apparently, I'm a scumbag.
Onto the ACTUAL important part of the email a full large paragraph down now. She specifically uses the terminology "I Believe" that I did what the issue is. Furthermore I am being VERY deceptive in EVERY statement I made (wrote actually). NOT ONE OUNCE of proof. There was no "based on" or "as indicated by" or "with a percentage of probability", NOTHING. Just the statement "I believe". Not very scientific or provable, but apparently that doesn't matter.
Next she gets into a personal profile that looks like it was cut a paste out of a textbook with "I also need to mention" as the tag line. Not one bit of it was even close to accurate, but it sure was nasty. The email ended with "I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. This is my opinion and I am extremely confident in its results". Certainly smacks of "you're screwed but you can pay me to fix you".
I got kicked out of my home, had to spend the night 40 miles across town, drove back at 5am for school after 4 hours of sleep in a 48 hour period plus a 36 hour raging headache because I was SO angry at the blatant lies, BS and havoc this woman has caused in my life. I resolved to get to the bottom of it, since from the beginning, I haven't done ANYTHING wrong....except for trusting someone apparently.
I spent an hour on the phone with a friend of mine who IS a state licensed and sanctioned psychologist that has known me for the last almost 20 years. I explained the entire situation to her, even read her word for word what Ms. d'Gabriel had emailed. She (psychologist) was appalled at what this woman (handwriting guru) had done. My friend directed me to the Az board of behavioral health, also the state of Az board of psychiatric examiners which are two of the sanctioning bodies in this state to find out what her license number was and how to file a complaint. She (friend) also informed me that she herself has done handwriting analysis and has found through experience as well as colleagues AND textbooks, that it isn't accurate not to mention inadmissible in court as such (as a profiling or lie detection tool). I was also informed that the types of information being generated and how it was transmitted (via email) was a direct violation of my privacy rights, as email IS NOT secure and can be viewed by anyone who knows how. The last little kicker, I had know idea about THIS. My friend (State licensed, sanctioned, PROPERLY trained psychologist) added that NO profile done on me in this manner, would even be taken seriously by a real professional as I have returned to school and am currently a full time student. The reason is, I'm involved in an immersive training environment, learning and applying new information, concepts and habits, and that the underlying subconscious stress created by this learning process, throws ALL of my patterns off, making ANY profile, other than ACTUAL one on one contact, impossible and unusable. Apparently Ms. d'Gabriel didn't read or just forgot about that chapter of the book.
Following her (my friends) advice I did some digging and here's what I found. Ms. Treyce d'Gabriel does in fact have 1 license........that would be a real estate license. Handwriting analysis is apparently not monitored (licensed) by the state. She belongs to no sanctioning bodies in the state. That means she's not REALLY accountable to anyone or any group when she makes an egregious error and destroys someone's life. Since what she is doing goes FAR beyond simple handwriting analysis she is in effect practicing behavioral medicine without a license. She offers full psychological profiles and therapy programs all based on handwriting. She has also apparently accomplished something no single ANYTHING in the history of behavioral medicine since the dawn of time has been able to accomplish, a PROVEN 100% success rate with HER therapy program. Why do I find myself seeing SCAM in big flashing red letters?
But wait there's more, she's certified to get you to stop smoking. She owns and runs a metaphysical healing center. She's done writing profiles of Scott Peterson and Michael Jackson.......somehow I doubt it had anything to do those guys actual cases, but she still did profiles on them AND others. She does her profiles based on copies NOT originals. I don't claim to know much about this stuff, but it seems to me the ACTUAL pen strokes are necessary and a digitized copy REPRESENTING the pen strokes are somehow less than adequate.
So what I can see here is someone who's invented a niche for themselves as a slick, tabloid style, poorly trained, jack of all trades with no formal licenses and a lot of good sales pitches and empty promises guaranteed to solve all your problems by creating new ones. She's even wrote books I'm not going to waste my time looking at since I've seen first hand how she conducts herself in a "professional" capacity.
Back to the first paragraph of her email, it all makes perfect sense now. The ONLY reason to include the "international kidnapping case" was she felt a need to legitimize herself to my wife. Which tells me that she OBVIOUSLY KNOWS that there is some question about her legitimacy. Fortunately for myself, I had the wherewithal, capacity, and support group of friends necessary to uncover this sham. Something I should be incapable of based on Ms. d'Gabriels assessment. I have filed a complaint against her with the Az board of behavioral health, the Arizona AG's office and am currently looking at the potential for legal action against her personally. I certainly welcome any inquiry from any interested attorneys.
Using her own analysis, Ms Treyce d'Gabriel is professionally unprofessional. She's reckless and has little to no regard for the havoc and damage she reeks upon unsuspecting people looking for help. The really scary part is, I think that she believes she IS helping.
If your looking for someone to help you with a behavioral health issue, do the right thing, call a licensed professional, check them out with a sanctioning body, all this stuff is online nowadays, and don't believe made up hype and slick packaging, promising you cheap solutions and alternatives. You just might end up with an even bigger mess on your hands.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/10/2008 07:30 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Center-Of-Forensic-Profiling-Ms-Treyce-DGabriel/internet/Center-Of-Forensic-Profiling-Ms-Treyce-DGabriel-No-license-No-morals-No-problem-It-j-400102. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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