DANIEL J STIEL ripoff sold me atv he didnt have this was for grandson' christmas present Jonesborough Tennessee

Hello to all that have been ripped off by Mr Stiel. I would just like for you to do a google search for Daniel Stiel washington county and see what he is up to now.. Im sure that you all feel that your dealings with him are horrible but take a look at what he is doing now.. Please post your individual dealings with him and maybe it will help this school teacher out..

As of 2/27/27014 still didn't refund the $444.00 

As of 2/25/25014 still no refund!

AS OF 9/27/10 STILL NO REFUND!!!!!!!!!

has anyone called the police on this man??? This is illegal and why no one has contacted the police is amazing to me? If he really had contact with an officer he supposably called regarding what he did to all of you she would have informed him that its fraud.

1st, on any auction that you bid on eBay look on the buying safely tips
1. Look at the seller feedback, don't buy from people with less then 98% positive feedback or less then 50 total feed backs
2. Its in plain sight for the most part, review the seller's history and feedback supplied by real buyers.
3. THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT, PAYPAL WILL COVER YOU IF SAYS "FREE PAYPAL BUYER PROTECTION" If it says "LEARN HOW YOUR PROTECTED" in stead of "FREE PAYPAL BUYER PROTECTION" Then you could very well get screwed. This is the money processors guarantee that they will refund you the full amount of transaction price up to a $1,000.00 How do I know this? Through experience. I bought something got ripped off! So I called and was very pissed. Then I spoke to a manager, that let me know what was covered and what wasn't. I had another problem, filed a complaint and was covered the full transaction price.

First off, you need to pay it back before you say you did. Secondly, to the other Daniel, I would think that if there was another mini ATV at Kevin's house at this point in time it could be he wanted to do his Grandson right and pay for one that he ACTUALLY gets.

Oh and PLEASE MR. SCAMMER STEALS, ROT while your in ALABAMA!!!!

I certainly hope you maintain your standards of ripping people off there so maybe someone will take care of you properly!

Eric and danny you both sound like daniel are you posting bogus reports again? get a life !dont know much about jello wrestling eric obviously you do!

For all the people from Tupper Lake that use this site, has anyone ever driven by Kevin's place (or his grandkid's place) to see if there is a mini ATV around? Seems like it provide some evidence if it is shown there IS or IS NOT a mini ATV around.

And DJ Stiel, why don't you post that delivery confirmation? That would go a long way in helping you out here.

And Kevin, why not post the check(s) that bounced? That would go a long way of helping you out.

Maybe you guys should settle this through some Jell-o wrestling.

Also, for the ads on TriCities, are you sure it's the right Daiel Stiele you are confronting?

Well Eryy Christmas Kevin, Just want to let you know they are havin some great deals on ebay this year. But buyer beware. I have been ripped off like alot of people are. oh like a couple years ago. Someone bought something from me and then tried to get theyre money back what a shame. shame on them! On top of that I thought it was for real, so I paid them all the money back, and oops, silly me. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Well shame on me huh kevin. Ripping people off this year?????? Did you sell your grandson 4 wheeler? Or do ya really have a grandson. Well Well. Mery Christmas, I hope you dont rip off any one this year....... Oh hey, Alabama is GREAT! So close to the track. YOu should come visit sometime. I we can go have a lil talk pal. Hope all is well. Stay out of trouble!!!

Kevin, why havent you forward these emails to the FBI. These are very serious type threats. You have no idea if this man is capable or not of doing harm to you or your family. You have alot of patients because I would've done everything possible to have this man arrested. You should get in contact with a lawyer to have criminal charges brought up on this individual.

I know how the police department works.. I live in NYC they don't take internet crimes seriously. If you complain enough and get a lawyer involved they will do something about it. If the police refuse to do anything and harm falls upon you , the police are reasonable for not acting on those threats he sent to you. I hope you luck and that this piece of scum is locked up in a hole.

Any update on this deadbeat?

STILL WAITING FOR MY REFUND DANIEL

DANIEL JAMES STIELS IS STILL OUT THERE AND NO HE HAS NOT REFUNDED US HE IS A SCAMMER AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!!

I've been reading through this and was wondering if this man ever repaid his debt? Is he still out there lurking?

Has anyone been able to locate Daniel J Stiel recently?

How is Jessica of Kingsley Michigan hooked up with Daniel?

There are 2 posts attributed to her on 30 October 2005. In the first, she claims to have been victimized by Kevin and, (if I understand this correctly) this rebuttal was determined to be bogus. In the second, which times in at a little over 12 hours later, she wishes him good luck with the oic, we dont reside in Tn no more, and with the company, well, chapter 7 filed, were done.

After that, there doesn't appear to be any acknowledgement from either Daniel or Jessica.

Where is this guy? Where is this "Jessica"? Is she in on it too?

Have any of the complainants heard from Daniel since October of 2005?

Jennifer
Aurora, Colorado

I'm still waiting for you to arrive. I know you didn't get lost, cause you were crapping your pants when you sent me that email. So, how many people did you rip off this year? LOSER SCUM BAG SCAMMER! I saw your ads on that other site and they were as pathedic as you...Did you pay Kevin back yet? NO, I'm sure you didn't. You think this is over with huh? Think again! If your reading this you obviously didn't commit suicide yet. You should do that right! I can't see how you can live with yourself. If only knew a few of your poor nieghbors. I'm sure they would like to know how you make TENN look bad, real bad.
Anyway, just wanted to remind you, I'm still here waiting for you to pay up and/or show up. Oh and before I forget, your a low life dirt bag scammer that should be avoided at all costs.
Now I'm off to those other sites you visit to make more informative posts for ya.

BEWARE PEOPLE! THIS LOSER SCAMS, CHEATS AND STEALS FOR A LIVING AND DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT IT AT ALL. LOCK UP YOUR STUFF HE MIGHT STEAL AND SELL IT.

Danny still has not paid us back and probably wont being the scammer that he is !!!!!! I wonder who he ripped of this year

Has this SCUM BAG PAID UP YET??????????????????????????????????


I know Danny the scammer is going to different forums and trying to reverse the role, but we all know the truth. PAY UP SCAMMER!

THE ABOVE EMAILS WERE SENT BY STIELS TO A SELLER ON EBAY I REMOVED THE SELLERS ADDRESS OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIS PRIVACY. STIELS WAS ATTEMPTING TO PURCHASE A MINI ATV. NOTICE THE DATES!! I FIND THIS STRANGE BEING STIELS WAS SELLING MINI ATVS ON EBAY YOU CAN VERIFY THIS BY GOING ON EBAY UNDER DJSTIEL04 OR DJSTIEL05

------Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: You suck c**k!!!!!

Can you say Harrassment, I have alreay delt with mediater, Original Message -----
From: Kevin
To: DJSTIEL@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Brand New 2005 Pocket Bike Mini ATV/QUAD 49cc - RED (7121768781)

I have not received your payment as promised. Enlight of the Holiday seasons, I am willing to extend the pay by date to Monday December 27th 2004 by no later than 11:59pm. However after that date/time I can no longer wait for broken promises, I will be forced to file a NPB Alert with Ebay. If there is some reason you are failing to complete our transaction please let me know ASAP.


------ Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Brand New 2005 Pocket Bike Mini ATV/QUAD 49cc - RED (7121768781)

----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:01 PM
Subject: WARNING!!!!!All my Emails will contain virusus, check and see


-------Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: You suck c**k!!!!!
not as much as you "TRASH" I hope they do as well. I was buying the item, sent off the money, and you decide to cancel me or whatever, If I get another Email from you il cALL THE COPS.
I will purchase today. promiseOriginal Message

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From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: You suck c**k!!!!!

I sent off a Money Order For THE BIKE Do not reply to this Email

----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: You suck c**k!!!!!
email sent by Daniel to seeler on ebay

I sent off a Money Order For THE BIKE
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----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

I just want to wish you and your grandson who prob dont exsist a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Oh, and the truck, well, That's because Im getting a Brand New One! HAHA and you know what you little f**k. You aint man enough to stand in front of me and say what you do. But hey, Merry Christmas Anyway you sick lying little f**k! Tell your Grandson I said Hi. And a Very Merry Christmas. Actually, I wish him and you the worst, worst in health, worst in financial difficulties. Does he know Grandpa Lies and steals from others that deliver. We know you got the atv you fat f**k. I hope you all have a very f**ked Christmas! You f**king f**k! And I hope you and your Family get sick and die of some unknown f**king diseases!!!! And to say it all---MERRY f**kING CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHe
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----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: To your Grandson

Dear Kevin Grandson,

Just want to let you know what kind of man your Grandpa Kevin is:
Your Grandpa steals and lies about people that send him things, and also believes he is innocent. sad sad man. Sorry lil one. But your grandpa f**ks sheep and uses the holy bible to wipe himself clean. So when you get your Christmas presents this year, Remember, some one else paid for them! Because Grandpa Kevin is a sick, child molesting f**k! and deserves nothing for Christmas, And you tell him that. tell him that if he was or wants to be man enough, step on my land and face me like a man, but beware for whome he thinks he is if he does dicide to do so, because my property is protected by a 357, and it isnt shy to use it.

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1964 CORVAIR Monza 4 door sedan
Vehicles / Cars
this is a solid 1964 4 door sedan, I will send pics or you can come test drive. All works well, all chrome is there All you need is a paint jobs and roof liner for int. Radio even works has a 2 speed powerglide transmission. Interior in Great shape! NEW tires all maint. records since factory, and even sales reciept, along with window sales papers. Really a sweet project,ready to paint, primer finished. will sell for 1300. obo or trade for old car or truck.or 4 wheeler or motorcycle. Or Boat. Something fun in other words. This car is classic kelly at 3000, Paint it and a few interior mods and you have 10,000
Where: jonesborough, TN

Make: Chevrolet
Model: Corvair Monza 4 Door
Color: Gold
Mileage: 50,000
Price: $1,300
Title Type: Standard
VIN: TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. danielstiel@yahoo.com

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comp soloflex system
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complete equipt. Lots of extras over 3000.00 invested, will let go for the right deal. Make offer
Where: jonesborough, TN

Price: $0.00

cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. or danielstiel@yahoo.com

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1993 Chevy Suburban, NICE!!!!!!! 4x4 loaded
Vehicles / Trucks
4x4 silver chevy suburban, fully loaded electric everything, nice truck $5500.00 3rd row seating and nice stereo, tow package, excellent running truck, 2nd owner, taken very good care of, non smoking truck. Excellent in and out. Pic of truck is exactly the same, i didnt have a pic, byut just picture it silver and black tinit windows. I can send e-mails of pic. Truck is blue book at 6900.00, i am sacrificing alot. I have alot of extras in it.
Where: jonesborough, TN

Make: AM General
Model: 1993
Color: Silver
Mileage: 150,000
Price: $4,700
Title Type: Standard
VIN:

cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. danielstiel@yahoo.com

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Soloflex
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complete equipt. Lots of extras over 3000.00 invested, will let go for the right deal. Make offer 150.00 sounds good
Where: jonesborough, TN

Price: $0.00

cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. or Danielstiel@yahoo.com

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Baby stuff girls and boys
General Merchandise / Miscellaneous
Not a retailer, we are just a crowded family home. Needing to empty some space. We have way too much, WAY too much to list, just email me and tell me what you want. I know we have it. Boys stuff 2.5 years and under, and girls 1 and under! Hurry, we will not hold for long!You make reasonable offer. Or trade for something for kids. Everything like new if not it is new. Double strollers, eddie bauer play pens, Computers, New Crib. Listen, these things are awesome and need a good home. And we are willing to help out by either selling or trading for something for my kids. ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!
Where: jonesborough, TN

Price: $0.00

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KIDS THINGS! BABY THINGS!!!!!CLOTHES!!!!
General Merchandise / Household Items
Not a retailer, we are just a crowded family home. Needing to empty some space. We have way too much, WAY too much to list, just email me and tell me what you want. I know we have it. Boys stuff 2.5 years and under, and girls 1 and under! Hurry, we will not hold for long!You make reasonable offer. Or trade for something for kids. Everything like new if not it is new. Double strollers, eddie bauer play pens, Computers, New Crib. Listen, these things are awesome and need a good home. And we are willing to help out by either selling or trading for something for my kids. ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!
Where: jonesborough, TN

Price: $0.00

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BABY CLOTHES-KIDS TOYS-CRIB-STROLLERs
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CHEAP!!! We have WAY TOO MUCH STUFF!!! Baby Stuff like Eddie Bauer Travel Crib, double strollers, girls clothes like new ages 0-1 years old, boys ages 0-3 years old. More toys than toys r us(lol) we need more room, we have WAY TOO MUCH. You can pick what you want. The more you buy the cheaper it is. For Example--eddie Bauer travel crib, originally 180.00 will let have for 25.00. all is in EXCELLENT SHAPE!!!!!!! make an offer on all clothes or all baby stuff! This stuff is in Excellent shape! We need more room, we are being overcome with thease things, we paid real good money for. Just make an offer on all or some!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where: jonesborough, TN

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Tarnation danny your gonna help out the katrina victims what an upstanding citizen you are. are you gonna solve the third world hunger problems! bet you can by selling air or possibly bull @#$% we all no you got plenty of that how much is bull @#$% going for these days. surely your getting a good price for it being the fine buisness man that you are. Your pa must be real proud of you bet he tells you every day. good luck danny

PS still waiting for the atv!! is it still on that boat that homeland security is holding up

Quote from Danny boy's Yahoo sales site:"just email me and tell me what you want. I know we have it."
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Yeah, right. He'll SELL you ANYTHING you 'want'. Uhhh....delivery? Well, that's an issue open to conjecture.
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Another quote:" ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!"
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That is the most disgusting bit of self serving braggadocio bull $hit I've witnessed lately. He's a legend in his own mind.'Ol Danny boy is a regular pillar of society. NOT!
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Somehow the term "bottom feeder" comes to mind.

The ATV I was selling. It cost me $12.00 to place the ad and he ;eaves me wopper of feedback for something he never saw and walks away with out paying a dime AGAIN and AGAIN.
What A SCUM BAG LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey dan, when you sell some of that junk, how about you pay back Kevin and the rest of the people you stole from in your lifetime but somehow I don't believe you have enough stuff to sell to do that.

I don't believe for a second that you're selling stuff for your kids education so why don't you give your kids a real education by showing them that daddy makes good with the world by returning people's money because he's a good guy and good guys don't take advantage of other people.

After all I've read on this case, I can safely say that I wouldn't spit on you Dan if you were on fire. You're pond scum and you stink! ppppppppppppuuuuuuuuu, you yucky little scum wad.

That is the oddest ad I've ever seen. He says to just email him for what you want. He's got double strollers, Eddie bauer play pens, computers, crib, or just ask him for anything and he'll have it because he has too much stuff. Again, he uses his kids by saying that cash will go to his kids. You should offer him the ATV you didn't get in exchange for his so called "anything stuff."

That other deal where he can afford to buy an old car but he can't refund your money. Oh, question, did you ever look at the retaliatory feedback Dan gave a seller that Dan didn't pay for an ATV he bid on? I believe it's the feedback right before the one you gave. Go check out the feedback Dan left that guy. Funny how he was trying to buy an ATV yet selling one to you. What a piece of work. He screws the guy by not paying and then he says on his feedback to the guy something like... the seller sells junk ATVs that only run for 5 hours.

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Daniel or Jessica what ever you are now.as I sit here and think about what I should get my grandson for christmas. I think of you do you realize it's been one year since you stole $540.00 from him. you are a little man no you are a punk!!!!! who are you ripping off this year. what kind of scam did you come up with? we know you can't go on ebay thanks to mike and all the other people you ripped off on Ebay how do you live with yourself it has to be difficult is your wife still with you or did she wake up and smell the coffee.MERRY CHRISTMAS DANNY BOY OR JESSICA WHAT EVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S.still waiting to see that delivery INFORMATION you supposedley have

Daniel or Jessica what ever you are now.as I sit here and think about what I should get my grandson for christmas. I think of you do you realize it's been one year since you stole $540.00 from him. you are a little man no you are a punk!!!!! who are you ripping off this year. what kind of scam did you come up with? we know you can't go on ebay thanks to mike and all the other people you ripped off on Ebay how do you live with yourself it has to be difficult is your wife still with you or did she wake up and smell the coffee.MERRY CHRISTMAS DANNY BOY OR JESSICA WHAT EVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S.still waiting to see that delivery INFORMATION you supposedley have

Daniel or Jessica what ever you are now.as I sit here and think about what I should get my grandson for christmas. I think of you do you realize it's been one year since you stole $540.00 from him. you are a little man no you are a punk!!!!! who are you ripping off this year. what kind of scam did you come up with? we know you can't go on ebay thanks to mike and all the other people you ripped off on Ebay how do you live with yourself it has to be difficult is your wife still with you or did she wake up and smell the coffee.MERRY CHRISTMAS DANNY BOY OR JESSICA WHAT EVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S.still waiting to see that delivery INFORMATION you supposedley have

Daniel or Jessica what ever you are now.as I sit here and think about what I should get my grandson for christmas. I think of you do you realize it's been one year since you stole $540.00 from him. you are a little man no you are a punk!!!!! who are you ripping off this year. what kind of scam did you come up with? we know you can't go on ebay thanks to mike and all the other people you ripped off on Ebay how do you live with yourself it has to be difficult is your wife still with you or did she wake up and smell the coffee.MERRY CHRISTMAS DANNY BOY OR JESSICA WHAT EVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S.still waiting to see that delivery INFORMATION you supposedley have

He had his sex change and moved. Hopefully he moved to a State that don't tollerate his scams and will prosecute him to the fullest extent of the LAW!
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.

SCAMMER, LIAR!

He had his sex change and moved. Hopefully he moved to a State that don't tollerate his scams and will prosecute him to the fullest extent of the LAW!
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.

SCAMMER, LIAR!

He had his sex change and moved. Hopefully he moved to a State that don't tollerate his scams and will prosecute him to the fullest extent of the LAW!
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.

SCAMMER, LIAR!

He had his sex change and moved. Hopefully he moved to a State that don't tollerate his scams and will prosecute him to the fullest extent of the LAW!
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.

SCAMMER, LIAR!

At one time in my life, I believed that every human being was put on this planet for a useful purpose. However, losers like Daniel Stiel have convinced me otherwise. Sad as it is to say, there are millions more out there just like him. These maggots just keep on sucking this country dry.

I have come to the conclusion that euthenasia is the only answer.

Danny did you change your name to jessica or did you slip up with your bogus rebuttal. RUN Danny RUN

Im not the only one you ripped off!!! Stop trying to get refunds for things you recieve there kevy boy. Oh, good luck with the oic, we dont reside in Tn no more, and with the company, well, chapter 7 filed, were done.
Note this publically.

STILL WAITING FOR DELIVEY INFO!!!!!!!

What a coincidence that your post is 3 minutes before the "so called girl from Michigan". Surely Danny, you can do better than that! Or should I call you "Jessica".

I have been an avid ebayer for 5 years, and have used paypal almost as long. If a complaint is filed, paypal gives the seller plenty of time to respond. Unfortunately for sellers, if you do not have delivery confirmation or proof you mailed it, paypal always will go in favor of the buyer. I actually was ripped off by an overseas buyer who did recieve package, but then turned around and filed a complaint, which i lost because I didnt have a del. confirmation, even tho buyer did not ask or pay for it, and I had emails from her stating she loved the dress. it did not matter.. My advice to sellers using paypal is ALWAYS add .55 to your item for delivery confirmation to protect yourself. Now, that being said Jessica stated "I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They told me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him."
Paypal would never do this..The person who ripped me off had also done this to 3 others who I was able to contact via her neg. FB on ebay, and we were able to get her kicked off ebay (at least under THAT name), but paypal would not reverse charges even though I told them of the others who were ripped off. They would not discuss anybody else with me, as it is a violation of privacy. And they just kept telling me to show proof..I do not know why Jessica would make that up about Mr. Fortier unless she is doing this to help out the man who originally ripped Mr Fortier off. That is sad. This is a man who was trying to do something wonderful for his son and its turned into a nightmare for him and the family. He doesnt need his name besmirched by lies just because he's trying to warn others. Good luck to you sir, and I am so sorry to see this is still dragging on and on for you.

Kevin Fortier has purchased 500.00 in toys r us gift cards, we sent them by u.s. mail, he then claimed he never got them, then claimed he got them but they were no good and no money was on them. We are in process of filing a law suit against mr. Fortier for his dishonesty.

We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!

Kevin Fortier has purchased 500.00 in toys r us gift cards, we sent them by u.s. mail, he then claimed he never got them, then claimed he got them but they were no good and no money was on them. We are in process of filing a law suit against mr. Fortier for his dishonesty.

We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!

Kevin Fortier has purchased 500.00 in toys r us gift cards, we sent them by u.s. mail, he then claimed he never got them, then claimed he got them but they were no good and no money was on them. We are in process of filing a law suit against mr. Fortier for his dishonesty.

We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!

Kevin Fortier has purchased 500.00 in toys r us gift cards, we sent them by u.s. mail, he then claimed he never got them, then claimed he got them but they were no good and no money was on them. We are in process of filing a law suit against mr. Fortier for his dishonesty.

We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!

DEAR DANNY PLEASE EMAIL THE SLIP YOU HAVE FOR THE DELIVERY OF THE MINI ATV. YOU ALREADY KNOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS

Wow Danny your so bitter. Still waiting to see your delivey notification!! show us Danny or is it that you cant figure out how to forge it yet

HEY SCUMBAG POST THE SO CALLED DELIVERY INFO. WE ALL WANT TO SEE IT. FOR SOME REASON I JUST DONT THINK YOU HAVE ANY YOU THEIF

Really Dan you must learn to govern your inability to communicate with those in which you have ripped off. As an EBay member I find it hard to believe that you would give a bidder $100 and call it a "refund" and then claim that in fact the bidder did receive the item. If you want people to believe you, than post a pic of the delivery confirmation. If you can't do that, then shut your pie hole and give Kevin his money back. Enough said!!

I have the original slip in which this pole smoking new york f*g signed when recieving this atv. Funny how the world works, All this on me, and yet I have the proof, but unlike this coward, I will provide this info to you on an ind. basis. Write me thru here and I will email it to you. This is pretty serious considering he cashed a hundred dollar check of mine. And went thru all this documented bs to de fraud me. and my children. Pretty serious, yes indeed, looks like im in contact with your sherriff now there Kevy. Oh and If you all want to keep up the b.s. then it only makes you all the same. Hey Kevin, Good try , next time you want to buy something and say you didnt get it. Then try someone who dont have children!!!!! This has not hurt my business. My busuness does great now. So hey one last thing. The week after you signed for my quad, I also hAVE a reciept copy of some things you bought direct from tiger. In fact, keep the hundred, cause if you need to rip me off, and tell the world you were instead, and in return use this ror place which is im sure a great thing. To protect.You obviously need it more than me. SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM BAGGGGGGGG!!!!!It should be me who reports you. And as agian for the check cashed, yes, it was your refund you cashed it. , but now I have proof, and

I will use it.

His check did clear.He had nothing on the back of the check. He still owes me $400.00. Let's face it. Daniel James Stiels Out of 168 Leonard Drive Jonesboro Tennesse is a scumbag and always will be. I Feel sorry for the so called kids he has, if he even has any, being that you can't believe anything he says. He's a dirty liar. Danny spent time in jail for the other bad checks he wrote. I know for a fact because I've seen the reports and court records out of Virginia. Anybody can see these records. Let's keep this alive so everybody knows how Daniel Stiels operates.

You need to be real careful about that check, or anything like it. He put verbiage on the back that indicates the check was your refund. If you endorse and deposit a check like that, it is the same as signing a statement that you have settled for this amount. You may not have any further recourse against the maker.



I am talking in generalities here, I understand that the check in question did not clear, so you are OK, but if it had, I believe legally you just kissed the other 400 odd dollars goodbye.



Be very careful (i.e. dont!) about endorsing a check with conditions written on it.

Daniel the scammer wrote the following:



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Rip off reports Being sued for Slander, and Kevin as well!!!!!!!



Rip off Report have no way of knowing the truth, and I will be filing a lawsuit against them For slander, and allowing such rediculous words to be exchanged. I have the paperwork filled out, and will be submitting Monday morning, BETTER WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS. A signature has been confirmed of delivery, and Tiger Int. confirmed it has arrived to its shipping location in Tupper Lake NY. If some one else signed for is NOT my responsibilty, Now, I will sue Rip off reports and Kevin and have My Proof to bring, Rip off reports are false and they never check to see if the reports are correct, or if some one is just trying to scam in return. Let me tell, I am not very good at bluffing, never won a poker game and dont like liers, so you can be assured I will know rip-off reports you know what in the dirt in court and all theyre B.S. to follow. WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS, better file for unemployement cause I PROMISE to you, and all. We will be in court. I have proof of delivery and I assure you this wont ever happen to somweone again. I have great attornies! I dont like people who allow slander, and liers who recieve things, then try to get money back as well, Rip off reports needs to start following up and call people before allowng such complete B.S. to be said.!!!!!!!



Daniel - Jonesborough, Tennessee



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Daniel the scammer obviously was lying, as if he had ever talked to a lawyer, and filled out lawsuit papers, he would know that he cannot sue ripoffreport for publishing this information.



In legalese:

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The operation of an internet web site upon which others post statements is an activity that is governed by the Communications Decency Act, 47 U.S.C.A. 230. Carafano v. Metrosplash.com, Inc. 339 F.3d 1119 (9th Cir. 2003); Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 129 F.3d 327 (4th Cir. 1997).



47 U.S.C. 230 provides that No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information

content provider. Because Rip-off Report can not legally be treated as a publisher or speaker of information provided by a third party, they can not be liable for claims of defamation, invasion of privacy, negligence, and interference with contract. Id.; Schneider v. Amazon.com. Inc., 31 P.3d 37 (Wash. App. 2001).

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Sorry jackass. You can still sue the complainer, but good luck proving that you shipped something you didn't.

The last post was great, really helpful information that will make a difference and help get this con artist (and not a very good one) off the streets and behind bars.



The rest of what I saw in this thread? Well, what can I say? While I agree that keeping the pressure up might be helpful, some of the veiled threats and name calling went across the line.



As for Daniel Stiel's reputation, that was tarnished by him alone long before it reached ROR. You want to sue someone for libel Danny? Try coming after me. I checked you out pretty thoroughly. The fact you weren't arrested for grand larceny amazes me, along with interstate wire fraud, etc. You also clearly intended to defraud your victims on eBay, and never intend to make good unless forced to. You can't sue ROR or Kevin because the report is documented and accurate. Libel requires that the information published be false, which it clearly is not since you have produced zero evidence to the contrary to counter the evidence presented by Kevin. As for suing others, good luck. The US Supreme Court has many times protected the rights of others to their own opinions. If you check very carefully, you will see that is just what the other comments by those not directly involved in the matter were. Speech clearly labelled as commentary or opinion is not cause for libel nor slander. So go ahead, try to sue someone.



Many states have reduced the threshhold of grand theft from $1,000 to only $500. This means you might be charged with a felony, which means rather than jail, you go to a state prison. Given you appear to have committed interstate wire fraud, you may be facing significant federal time as well.



Kevin - It is clear this suspect has no intention of repaying you. You need to file criminal charges and a civil suit ASAP before time runs out. Start out by contacting the Tennessee State Attorney General (fecal matter rolls downhill). Be polite and to the point, leave opinion out of it. In a civil suit, you can also recoup expenses relating to prosecuting the matter, such as court costs, travel, time (sometimes), legal and filing fees, etc. The judgement is good for ten years, and you can seize everything and anything he owns until the judgement is satisfied, including any wages earned.



Let us know if any of the constructive solutions work out or not.



As for the rest of you, thank God I'm an honest person! I'd hate to have you guys mad at me, lol.

If you are a resident of N.Y. and were ripped off by this individual please go to your local police department and file the following charges against him:



PL 190.05 Issuing a bad check-B Misdemeanor

PL 190.20 False Advertising -A Misdemeanor

PL 155.25 Petit Larceny -A Misdemeanor

PL 190.60 Scheme to defraud -A Misdemeanor



Insist that a warrant be drawn for his arrest. This will place his name in our N.Y.S.P.I.N. system. This is the New York State Police Information Network. It will also show up in other law enforcement data bases when his name is run to further complicate his life.



Then contact the police department who covers Daniel's area and fax them a copy of the warrant and case information. Insist they draw similar charges in their area as well for him.



The "Issuing a bad check" charge is only if he mailed you a refund check that bounced.

Once the charges and warrant have been drawn contact the U.S. Postal Inspector who covers where Daniel lives and inform him of Daniel's activates. If he used the U.S. Mail for any of his illegal activities he can be arrested on separate federal charges. Please include all of the victims who were ripped off by him when talking to the Inspector to get them interested.



Hope this helps...



P.S. If you can document more than $1,000 in assets stolen by him it is a felony situation in N.Y. and he can be extradited for it.

Minnesota guy....There are no death threats in any of my rebuttals, and I'd like to see the scum bag try! As far as you, you need to have your eyes checked and learn to read. Just what we need, another Mr know it all perfect crap head in the world. We have enough of your kind (talk about trailer trash!)

Are you Danny's boy friend? Why would you (or anyone for that matter) defend Danny the RIP-OFF scum bag?

PAY UP DANNY!

It's been far too long.

I certainly hope your so called Construction company went under. It should have taken you with it.

Oh and I gotta say, your truck looks pretty lame, it defenitly says alot about your business and the kind of money you steal....LOL You can't rich robbing the poor, stupid FOOL!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Danny did you move and change your name to britton. if not britton should take a look at Danny boys reputation on ebay !!!!!

This man would be in jail by now if the laws and the legal system worked over night. Unfortunately they do not, also we are talking about more than one state which each state has their own set of laws, we are also talking about internet fraud and all the laws that perain to the internet. As frustrating as this situation may be for all involved, it does take time, all the best cases do. Good Luck Kevin and hang in there the justice system, given enough time will make sure that all is made right again!!

You have nothing on the guy or he would be in Jail. Stop talking BS!



New Jersey guy......Daniel could take you to court for the death threats you are giving him.



The lady is right about Tupper Lake.



Everything I read about Tupper Lake is trailer trash.



If you really have something on Daniel then he would be in jail.

Daniel james stiel seems to have a reputation in Virginia. CHECK OUT THE the Virginia court records (GC0000809000-GC00000362000-GT04002736000)VERY FUNNY

With all due respect to Karlton and his superior intellect and rapier wit, this is not a joke. Working people can't afford to be ripped off to the tune of $500.00. I realize in California that a three bedroom house can cost close to a million dollars, but for the rest of America, $500 is still a good chunk of cash. Lay off and let these guys vent...Daniel Stiel is a pretty well-known crook in Tennessee, and I hope the activity here will help put him where he belongs..behind bars.

STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL JAMES STIEL OF 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE

Wow a person for Tupper Lake NY who has proved his case. Mark this down folks because its a first!



Hope you get more of your money back, perhaps you could send some to Rip Off report for helping you expose the crook?



For real fun search Rip Off Report for Tupper Lake you will have endless hours of reading about the "locals". But this report goes to prove even people from Tupper Lake can use Rip Off Report for good not comedy. ;)



I WANT MY ROR TV!

Kevin:



It apppears to be very unlikely that you will ever get a full refund of your $$$. However, I appreciate your efforts to expose Daniel Stiel to the world for what he is...a filthy slime sucking thieving lying putrid slug of a pitiful excuse for a human being.



At least you got the maggot suspended from eBay for which I am grateful.



THANKS

His bank covered his $100.00 check. I have talked with a couple of judges and basicly was told it would cost more to go and file charges on him. Why the sherrif won't do anything, who knows. He still owes me $444.00 + interest +phone calls. When and if he ever pays me, I will post it immediately. Until then, I will keep updating this.

The bounced check you have also opens him up to check fraud, and the sheriff can pick him up for that without you being there. Why is it that the Sheriff has done nothing there? Its not just a State law he broke, he broke several Federal Laws. I say just take a trip to Tenn with a baseball bat and kick his butt. This is utter Bull crap.



As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!



Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.



I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!

The bounced check you have also opens him up to check fraud, and the sheriff can pick him up for that without you being there. Why is it that the Sheriff has done nothing there? Its not just a State law he broke, he broke several Federal Laws. I say just take a trip to Tenn with a baseball bat and kick his butt. This is utter Bull crap.



As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!



Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.



I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!

The bounced check you have also opens him up to check fraud, and the sheriff can pick him up for that without you being there. Why is it that the Sheriff has done nothing there? Its not just a State law he broke, he broke several Federal Laws. I say just take a trip to Tenn with a baseball bat and kick his butt. This is utter Bull crap.



As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!



Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.



I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!

The bounced check you have also opens him up to check fraud, and the sheriff can pick him up for that without you being there. Why is it that the Sheriff has done nothing there? Its not just a State law he broke, he broke several Federal Laws. I say just take a trip to Tenn with a baseball bat and kick his butt. This is utter Bull crap.



As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!



Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.



I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!

Karlton,

Buy Daniel's construction company so he can pay me back. It is for sale at Tricitiesnow.com. He owes me $444.00.

After reading all this crud, one has to ask a few questions,



1) What happened to the police visits did he go to jail for even a booking?



2) Why are there no bank markings on the "back" of the "bounced" check(s)?



3) Why not post a scan of the FRONT of the "bad check"?



4) Why are the people from Tupper Lake NY always on this site?



5) What are the court docket numbers for all the legal actions that have been so boldly thrown out here?



Point is if your really not going to haul him into court posting here is only for fun and games. Now get this guy or move on!



Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!

AS OF 5/22/05 STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL AND JANET STIELS 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE

Daniel Stiel:



I realize that you are probably very busy this time of year with your "construction company". However, I, along with several others, would like an update.



HAVE YOU PAID UP YET ???

pay the man back slime ball did you give those poor kids up for adoption yet you should. why people like you are allowed to breed is amazing. your daddy must be proud of you

DANIEL J STIEL 168 leonard drive tennesee



AS OF 5/2/2005 STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL THE THIEF FROM 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESEE BEWARE OF THIS SCAMMER DO NOT LET THIS INDIVIDUAL CON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have tried small claims court but it would cost about the same amount to go to that scammers state and file. also even if I won it doesnt mean the thief would pay me .look at his ad at tricities.com or search his name just keep updating this so he wont have the opportunity to scam anyone else.let everyone know that DANIEL J STIEL is a loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel,



It has become quite evident that you are not going to respond to the accusations which have been leveled against you in this forum and that is certainly understandable. You are, without a doubt, one of the most vile and loathsome villains to ever grace the hallowed halls of eBay.



I can just imagine you sitting on the steps of your roach infested single wide trailer, drinking beer, and smoking generic cigarettes while you wait for your next welfare check. You are truly a piece of human feces.



There is only one way to redeem yourself in the eyes of millions who are disgusted with you...PAY UP !!!!

I am sorry for your loss, but there is a lot of energy being expended on this issue. Have you thought about suing him in small claims court? I know he is in a different state, but that shouldn't matter and you would be surprised how quickly someone pays up when they are served with papers.



Just last month, I filed suit on behalf of a client who was owed $9330. My client got a check the day after the process server delivered copies of the lawsuit to the defendants.

See your name does mean something scum b**!



Why have you noy paid this man back???



Oh man, I would have had you in the clink by now! Some one else posted right on, you are a TURD!



I have an idea, we should setup a donation page for Kevin and a few other people, If everyone who thinks this is wrong would pitch in a dollar, I'll bet we could get enough money to fly a few people over to Danny's house in no time. This needs to be resolved now! What kind of Sheriff lets this continue in his State?? Is this what Tenn. is about?? Scamming paople and getting away with it? Breaking fedral laws and having no fear of it??



The representaion of the judicial system over there is evident! This man should have been arrested long ago! We need to get that Sheriff off his butt and do his JOB! This is just unexceptable!

This is why people take the law into their own hands!



We should all start calling and faxing the sheriff, attorney general and district attorney in your county copies of the Rip-off Report on you till they take action.

How about it Rat Turd ???



Why haven't you refunded this man's $$$ ???



I just bet the money's in the mail. Right ???



You are a disgraceful piece of putrid feces.

AS of 4/7/2005 still no refund from Daniel j stiel the scamming thief AT 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESEE

YOU ARE THE SLIME THAT FLOATS ON A POND OF STAGNANT WATER DIRT BAG STIEL!!!DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PICTURE THEY CAN POST ON THIS SITE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT A SCUMBAG LIKE THIS LOOKS LIKE.I SEE YOU ARE USING YOUR KIDS ON THIS TO TRY AND COVER UP YOUR LIES DO THOSE KIDS A FAVOR AND PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION YOU ARE NO FATHER AND NEVER WILL BE!!!!!!!

Daniel j stiel the thief I noticed you were having a yard sale. is any of that stuff yours that little mini harley chopper who did you steal that from I see you are sellig your Dakota is this the truck you used for your big construction buisness how about that craftsman rider who did you steal that from Danny boy is that your trailer

still no refund from daniel j stiels of 168 leonard drive jonesborough TN. do not let this scammer in or near your house he is not trustworthy he steals from children

still no refund from daniel j stiels of 168 leonard drive jonesborough TN. do not let this scammer in or near your house he is not trustworthy he steals from children

still no refund from daniel j stiels of 168 leonard drive jonesborough TN. do not let this scammer in or near your house he is not trustworthy he steals from children

still no refund from daniel j stiels of 168 leonard drive jonesborough TN. do not let this scammer in or near your house he is not trustworthy he steals from children

Im so sorry to hear that Mr stiel scammed you.We won an auction for a mini ATV just before XMAS... a gift for our son. However,what Mr stiel neglected to disclose is that he never had the item he was auctioning off on hand. the auctions catch phrase was"WHAT A XMAS GIFT"and in the ad,he indicated that he would be shipping it priority immediatley upon payment.I made payment via paypal just minutes after the auction closed and inquired as to when the I would receive the item (Mind you,he lives in tennesse and we are in arkansas)His response was for me to allow 3-4 weeks!?!? Icouldnt believe it it!! I could walk to his house and back in less than 3-4 weeks and gladly would have driven to pick it up. When I asked about his definition of "priority",it was then that the story began to unfold.He claimed the manufacturer,not him,received payment and that they then shipped the merchandise to him from japan and because of customs and it being the holidays, priority was 3-4 weeks.HOGWASH!!!paypal confirmed payment went directly to HIM,not some japanese manufacturer. Nevermind had the man actually put that information in the in the auction listing, we would have gone right past it. Anyway, I immediatley notified my bank, paypal, ebay and paid for a square trade mediator to get involved afterwhich I received a full refund.i consider myself lucky because it appears not everyone was so lucky. im sorry for your situation and I would be happy to help in anyway i can. best of luck to you!! ANYONE WHO HAS READ THIS AND HAS BEEN SCAMMED BY DANIEL J STIELS PLEASE CONTACT ME THROUGH EBAY BY SEARCHING HIS SELLER INFORMATION djstielo4 or dstiel05 you will see all the negative feedback he received.

CALL THE SHERIFF #1-423-461-1414 IF HE HAS SCAMMED YOU I AM LOOKING INTO A VIRGINIA ADDRESS I FOUND ITS FAR FROM OVER WITH DANNY BOY

First, I thought this link might help.



http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/isgw-buyer-protection-steps.html



This man is clearly a fraud, and I'm usually skeptic when people claim thing's like threating e-mails and such; but with the demeanor this man has shown on this website I believe it.



Secondly, I would take him to small claims court. If this man has ripped off numerous people I would get together and file official complaints.



If your having problems finding him he's COMPLETELY traceable on the internet. Every time he visits a site he is leaving his isp assigned IP (Internet Protocol) address, which is traceable to him through this website and through his ISP. His ISP won't release his information without a court order, so theres simply no point in asking if your not taking him to court.



If you do plan on taking him to court, I'm sure that the kind people a www.ripoffreport.com, and www.ebay.com will help you out with logs. Also Don't e-mail him anymore. If your going to contact him do it through ebays messaging system.



Nail that puppy.

I want to invite you to the Great SouthWest. I along with some friends of mine would very much like to meet you and take you for a scenic drive to view our beautiful desert scenery.



Just let me know when you can be here and we will move your name to the top of our schedule. I promise that it will be an experience you will not soon forget.

I am reading through this and Kevin you seem to be a great , hardworking guy that got conned, but please stop lowering yourself.



All the foul names apply but by the end of the posts Mike and Arron seem to be acting childish. Even If you they are trying to help. This guy is a fraud and it seems he will pay for it, whick he should pay dearly.



Daniel should stop using the wife and newborn plea for simpathy, I believe a child was really scammed out of his christmas gift. Who cares about the child huh Daniel you got paid. That's even worse, scamming a child.



Which is what happened. I bet Kevin you still made his Christmas, it seems you have gone to great effort to make the child happy, only to taken in by a con artist. And Arron I am from Florida, I took that personally. I have friends in Tennessee, I don't call them names because I know of a con artist from there.



Go through the legal system Kevin as you have been. Don't lower yourself into a name calling war. Good Luck Kevin, Daniel I hope you are in jail a long time so the hard working people don't get scammed by you anymore.

Your so full of garbage! you're a loser trying to find more ways out rather then give this man his money back. This was no misfortune, it was your scam all along! And you haven't taken care of it YET.

Yes, I do know who you are! Your a SCUM BAG LOSER SCAMMER!



I'm the first guy you ripped off! Let me refresh your memory: You won my auction and didn't pay. I left you Neg feedback for not paying, you left me Neg Feedback just because your a piece of CRAP! I then contacted Ebay about all your Neg feedback that followed mine, now your banned from Ebay, also contacted AOL about the threats of the Email virus you said your were going to send me, hopefully they too will pull the plug on you. Apparently I'm not done with them yet.

So NO, I will NOT get out! I will add to this because it ALL truth just like my add was. Your a LIAR and a THIEF! The world now knows it too. I have the balls to say everything to your face. This won't stop until you PAY THE MAN BACK! NO PAYMENT PLAN SCAMS, JUST GIVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK IN FULL----d**n THIEF!



Your the piece of "Dung", and you SMELL!

You are only adding to what isnt yous to add to. Kevin is the only this unfotunate incident happened to. And is being taken care of. But as for all the rest of you. Get the F(@#$ out. You dont even know who the hell I am. And would rather keep it that way. If only any of you would have the balls to say what you have to my face. I just dont think you have you what it takes. Pieces of "Dung"

Susan, you must have DJ Steals mixed up here. Let me explain.

He does not own a Construction Company, he owns his very own CON Company. Appearently its not a very profitable business nor is he any good at it. I think what you need is a real construction company. You might want to check your yellow pages.

The sad part is, he gets caught and don't pay back. He CONS good people out of thier hard earned money.

Danny should be concidered as a new breed of animal thats has escaped from his cage. My gun is loaded and ready, when open season hits, I'm HOT on his trail.

CHECK OUT WHAT SOLD ON EBAY IT MAY HAVE BEEN YOURS

It's people like him that ruin things like ebay for all of us. I'ts just upsetting to see that his has kids that he is doing this in front of. I would hate to see him go to jail for something that could be easily taken care of.



Daniel just pay up, its better then not being able to see your kids, other than behind a window.Do the right thing daniel

What happened to Daniel? I have some construction work for him and I'm trying to establish contact.



Please advise if you know where he is.

This shows that daniel j stiels is the liar. he has sent me $100.00 towards the atv he sold me which he didn't have..



Danny told LT judy that he sent me a $200.00 money order he also gave the sheriff a check for $100.00 [the sheriff mailed the check] danny supposedley mailed the money order i will post danny's bounced check as soon as i get it back from his bank he will be arrested as soon as this happens poor danny cant come up with all the money that he stold from me thanks[MIKE AND Aaron] and any one else who filed reports on DANIEL J [which is for jerk]stiels WE GOT HIM GOOD

We haven't heard from you in a while, either you got the sh*t knocked out of you like you deserve, got your a*s locked up, or you lost your internet service from AOL.....LMAO



We are working on you Danny, have no fear, second thought YOU BETTER FEAR US!



LOSER, SCUM BAG, SCAMMER, give Kevin his money BACK NOW!



You need to post a response here, and soon Danny, like NOW! We need to hear from you...

I'm proud of you, Mike. It's good to know that they're are still a few people left in this country willing to stomp the s**t out of criminals like Daniel J. Stiel.



Don't think that we're all like his sorry a*s here in Tennessee. Most people here make an honest living unlike Daniel J. Stiel.



I lived in Johnson City, TN, for awhile. Johnson City is right next to Jonesborough. I worked with two different people who had been "SHEISTERED" by Stiel. I'm not real sure if they ever got anything rersolved with him. I didn't here about any "WHOOPINS'" so Daniel J. Stiel must have either gave them their money back or they just gave up.



If you truly decide to come to TN to stomp the hell out of Danny Boy, let me know. I want to see him get his spine broke into.....OH! I forgot......He doesn't have one! He likes to run his CROOKED business hiding in cyberspace like the coward thief that he is.



GOD BLESS and GOOD LUCK with your attack on this criminal Daniel J. Stiel. WE (REAL TENNESSEEANS) are ashamed that trash like Daniel J. Stiel call this state home. (I bet you he's not really from TN........probably FL)

Did you give him his money back yet? I would have come there and kicked your butt all around the State by now. I got you banned from Ebay and just to let you know, you should be shopping for a new internet provider too. Oh, and I'm still waiting for the law suit you promised! I can't say enough about how much of a thief, liar and loser you are!



Another tip for you SCUM BAG, look in other places on the net and you will find your name in several of them too! Just look for the label SCAMMER!

Daniel J Stiel, are you proud of yourself? Are you proud that your name is now posted all over the world wide web concerning your underhanded business practices? You have a terrible reputation on e-bay. I don't know how you are allowed to continue to do business on the internet.



I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.



God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.

Daniel J Stiel, are you proud of yourself? Are you proud that your name is now posted all over the world wide web concerning your underhanded business practices? You have a terrible reputation on e-bay. I don't know how you are allowed to continue to do business on the internet.



I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.



God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.

Daniel J Stiel, are you proud of yourself? Are you proud that your name is now posted all over the world wide web concerning your underhanded business practices? You have a terrible reputation on e-bay. I don't know how you are allowed to continue to do business on the internet.



I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.



God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.

DIDNT YOU SAY THAT YOU HAD PROOF OF DELIVERY DANNY!!! GUESS NOT I ALSO TALKED TO LT JUDY HE WILL BE PICKING YOU UP TODAY IF I DO NOT RECIEVE MY REFUND. AS FAR AS CALLING YOU {WERE DONE TALKING}

Evidently, if your last post can be taken seriously, the local authorities contacted you and "now" you have refunded Kevin's money.



My question is...what did the authorities say or do to convince you that you were not being "scammed", as you put it?



I think you are as full of crap as the sewer you crawled out of.



STAY OFF EBAY !!!

First of all, ya the sherriff did contact me, in fact we spoke, and he knows of me, as a good person, NO ONE WAS PURPOSELY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF! This is wrong, considering I have sent out his refund, along with an appology, But I have a newborne and two year old, I needed to make sure he didnt get it and that I was being scammed. Lt. Judy knows alot has tried to take from my family, And have proved it. So lay off. Tiger is refunding me so so I already sent his out. Mr. Kevin, Please call me on my phone. Sorry, Daniel

That is if you can be willing to talk like men. This b.s. has to stop. Call

My GF left a msg yesterday, and I have more info here. Mr. Stiel does not live where he says he does. check out Case# 520GT0400273600 in the Bristol GD Court of Virginia. These are Charges to mr. Daniel James Stiel also known as living in tennesee Born Sep 9 1974. If Any of this information Helps anyone prosecute him, then I did my part.

Good Luck

Daniel,



You sound like a pathetic piece of human feces to me. Your pathetic threats and excuses make me nauseous.



REFUND THIS MAN HIS MONEY even if you have to get a title loan on that rust bucket Ford Tempo you drive.



If you had one ounce of integrity, you would never have allowed things to go this far.



If, by chance, you should happen to find an ambulance chasing layer to handle your case...I'll see you in court.

This guy ripped me off to, He cant even spell look at his rebuttel. I have filed charges and the police said it will probably go to the FBI, because it is a federal crime.



Most local police departments have a hard time going through with online fraud, but will forward them on to the proper departments. I say that you should file charges against him. He will go to jail, there is no doubt in my mind. You dont rip people off on this scale and just get away from it, He can give all the excuses he wants to us, but when it comes the the judge, it aint gonna fly.



good luck



see you in court

oh yea and sue me to that would be fun

Its about time Ebay took action against this crook!!!!!!!!!!!

YOUR DONE ON EBAY LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No longer a registered user.

I hope they have all your details and back bill you for the money you stole from people! YOU SUCK!

Oh, and don't think this is done by a long shot, you still owe people, and you will pay them very soon.



Somebody go visit this retard and show him how business is done!

Post back with pictures if you can get the job done, we all wanna see....

Face the facts daniel, your BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit the B/S scam now and refund Kevin his money you loser!

You suck as a businessman and as a person!!!!!!!

People like you need to just DIE scumbag!!!!!!!!!



Nobody should ever do business with you! They are risking their money more than gambling at a casino.



Your business SUCKS too! Your work SUCKS! You SUCK!



I wonder how many people you did business with that you ripped off? I'm sure there are plenty. Reufnd those people too you friggin low life scumbag!



All I will say now is Watch your back!

First of all, it's libel not slander, moron. And here are a couple of key phrases for you and your "lawyer" to remember. Yeah, you have a lawyer, right!



"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."



"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."



There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:



Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.



Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.



And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?

First of all, it's libel not slander, moron. And here are a couple of key phrases for you and your "lawyer" to remember. Yeah, you have a lawyer, right!



"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."



"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."



There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:



Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.



Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.



And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?

First of all, it's libel not slander, moron. And here are a couple of key phrases for you and your "lawyer" to remember. Yeah, you have a lawyer, right!



"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."



"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."



There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:



Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.



Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.



And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?

First of all, it's libel not slander, moron. And here are a couple of key phrases for you and your "lawyer" to remember. Yeah, you have a lawyer, right!



"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."



"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."



There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:



Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.



Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.



And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?

DANIEL make shure you send me a copy of the delivery notification that you have with my signature on it. i would like to see how good you are at forging my name. remember those confirmation #'s you sent me well i checked those out two weeks ago and guess what those were bogus {just like YOU}. MY LOCAL POLICE DEPT is having alot of fun looking at all the infomation i gave them can you say INTERNET FRAUD. have you ever made a licese plate if not you will be learning shortly bring on the lawsuit

Sue me too PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I have enough on you to put you away bud!

Your lies are so bad I can smell them through my computer screen.



If anyone is slandering it is you, lets not forget to add false advertising and failure to comply with a contract that you agreed to when you placed your bids.



Your feedback speaks for itself! Your rating is a 3, out of 21 feedbacks!!!!!!!!



You have 7 negatives in the last month, how can you live with yourself?



You made comments in my feedback that were not true at all (thanks Ahole) and then you say you found out something in my ad wasn't true??? Your so full of it, I think you bid on my auction so you would have a better chance at selling your own SCAM. It didn't seem to bother you to stiff a bunch of people for the holidays did it? I hope you had a nice X-mas too, because if you don't clean up your act and the tracks you left, you may not see another one outside of bars!

You need to refund Kevin, and the other members money and remove your lame untrue feedback from my Ebay ID!



SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are so reputable and feel everyone is wrong in their comments, all they have to do is check out your lousy feedback on Ebay and see that you are a rip-off



.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months

positive....5..........13............13

neutral.....0...........0.............0

negative....7...........10...........10



feedback rating - 57.1%



seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others

If you are so reputable and feel everyone is wrong in their comments, all they have to do is check out your lousy feedback on Ebay and see that you are a rip-off



.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months

positive....5..........13............13

neutral.....0...........0.............0

negative....7...........10...........10



feedback rating - 57.1%



seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others

If you are so reputable and feel everyone is wrong in their comments, all they have to do is check out your lousy feedback on Ebay and see that you are a rip-off



.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months

positive....5..........13............13

neutral.....0...........0.............0

negative....7...........10...........10



feedback rating - 57.1%



seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others

This shows that daniel j stiels is the liar. he has sent me $100.00 towards the atv he sold me which he didn't have..



i have been in contact with other individuals that stiels tried to take advantage of. they all sent me information on what he did one lady sent me the same story that he told me. he claimed atv was in tennessee than it was in japan then in china now homeland security is holding it up on a cargo ship. guess danny doesnt know that terrorist would not ride mini atv's this guy lies so much he is actually starting to believe his own BS storys your a sad little man. danny does your wife know your stealing christmas presents from little kids or is she in on it with you and by the way it's a federal offense to threaten to send a virus through email you are about to find out the sherriff is coming danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rip off rweprts have no way of knowing the truth, and I will be filing a lawsuit against them For slander, and allowing such rediculous words to be exchanged. I have the paperwork filled out, and will be submitting Monday morning, BETTER WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS. A signature has been confirmed of delivery, and Tiger Int. confirmed it has arrived to its shipping location in Tupper Lake NY. If some one else signed for is NOT my responsibilty, Now, I will sue Rip off reports and Kevin and have My Proof to bring, Rip off reports are false and they never check to see if the reports are correct, or if some one is just trying to scam in return. Let me tell, I am not very good at bluffing, never won a poker game and dont like liers, so you can be assured I will know rip-off reports you know what in the dirt in court and all theyre B.S. to follow. WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS, better file for unemployement cause I PROMISE to you, and all. We will be in court. I have proof of delivery and I assure you this wont ever happen to somweone again. I have great attornies! I dont like people who allow slander, and liers who recieve things, then try to get money back as well, Rip off reports needs to start following up and call people before allowng such complete B.S. to be said.!!!!!!!

"for some reason Tiger dont respond or repond promptly,"



Too bad. That's YOUR problem, not the buyer's. So is shipping and refund processing. If you're stupid enough to do all this AND accept full liability for delivery, that also YOUR problem.



If you refund his money and he eventually gets his merchandise, then at that time you can seek legal remedy. In the meantime, you are currently on the hook big time. The buyer didn't pay "Tiger", he paid you. That's the end of the money chain pal, and it's your problem.



To the original buyer: I believe that more than enough time has passed. My advice is that you send a registered letter since you appear to have the address. In that letter you should demand a refund or delivery of the merchandise in 7 days. If you do not receive either, file CRIMINAL charges with the authorities in the county his business is in.



As to his threat to sue, that's a pure bluff, and a weak one to boot. Hell no he's not going to sue. The last thing he wants is to get mired up in the legal system - he'll end up in jail due to your criminal complaint.



Good luck!

I sent MR. KEVIN his info. on of the manufacter in China called Tiger International. They shipped atv, I forwarded all info I had to Him, and yet he says ha never recieved. I sold 5 of them and he is the only one that says he never recieved it. Everyone else was tickled for what they recieved. One lady even wrote me and told me thank you. I am not out to scam anyone and told him I would refund him as soon as I verified with Tiger Int. wrote me bacl to explain, I didnt make any money, actually about 18.00. I have had Numerous people trying to scam me over the seasons, but I want to make sure Mr. Kevin NEVER recieved it. I truly am sorry if he didnt, but I am not a scammer, and will sue any one, ANY ONE!

Mr. Kevin Fortier mis the scammer. If he recieved it. But I am a respectable member of the community, and wont stand for some b.s. reports. I will NOT scam anyone. And if he did not recieve it. I will refund him, But It is important to give time for shipping. Because if I refunded him, and he recieves it, i can guarantee he would call to tell me. He would just keep it. That is if he has really recieved it. Remove this from my name, this man already spoke to me and I explained to him that he would be refunded, but needed time to get all info on shipping, for some reason Tiger dont respond or repond promptly, I dont need his money, I have my own.

The guy won an auction of mine on the bay, he never paid and lied about paying, although I didn't send him the item, he continues to send me profane emails and threats of sending me viruses. This guy should be barred from the net. After he rips you off, he blocks your email address so he doesn't have to respond to you. Steer clear of this guy and or his company. He is a shady businessman at best.