- Report: #125437
Complaint Review: DANIEL J STIEL
| DANIEL J STIEL 168 LEONARD DR.
Jonesborough, Tennessee U.S.A. |
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DANIEL J STIEL ripoff sold me atv he didnt have this was for grandson' christmas present Jonesborough Tennessee
*Author of original report: daniel stiels
*Consumer Suggestion: INFORM POLICE
*Consumer Suggestion: Protections Actually offered by PayPal
*Consumer Comment: Daniel Steals AGAIN!
*Author of original report: BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN
*Consumer Comment: Well, Well, Well. Well?
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: MERRY CHRISTMAS YA'LL
*Consumer Comment: you let him talk to you like that??
*Consumer Comment: Kevin
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Comment: Whatever became of this man?
*Consumer Comment: Where is he now?
*Consumer Comment: HEY SCUM BAG DANNY!,
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Comment: We NEED an UPDATE! ..the scammer is going to different forums
*Author of original report: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Author of original report: email Daniel stiels sent to a seller on ebay notice the dates!! I paid stiels $544.00 on 12/20/2004
*Author of original report: DANIEL JAMES STIEL sends filthy, nasty and threatening emails
*Consumer Suggestion: BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN
*Author of original report: Danny stiels aol t stiel
*Consumer Comment: Very interesting, eh?
*Consumer Comment: Yep DANIEL J STIEL don't pay any of his bills
*Consumer Comment: Dang, he's selling a truck, a car, Antiques & Collectibles, baby stuff, computers, comp soloflex system and anything that you want that he's got in his house and he says he has it all.
*Consumer Comment: ads
*Consumer Suggestion: BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN tricitiesnow.com
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
*Consumer Suggestion: Danny used the money for his sex change
*Consumer Suggestion: Danny used the money for his sex change
*Consumer Suggestion: Danny used the money for his sex change
*Consumer Suggestion: Danny used the money for his sex change
*Consumer Suggestion: I Am Now A Believer In Euthenasia !!!
*Author of original report: who is scamming who daniel j stiel
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Kevin FortieR the thief
*Author of original report: daniel james stiels the scamming thief from 168 leonard drive tennesse
*Consumer Suggestion: daniel the thief stiels, now posing as Jessica
*Consumer Comment: Paypal doesnt give out information on other consumers!
*Consumer Comment: Daniel isnt the only one ripped off
*Consumer Comment: Daniel isnt the only one ripped off
*Consumer Comment: Daniel isnt the only one ripped off
*Consumer Comment: Daniel isnt the only one ripped off
*Consumer Suggestion: danny the thief stiels
*Consumer Suggestion: daniel james stiels the scamming thief from 168 leonard drive tennesse
*Consumer Comment: DANIEL JAMES STIELS THE THIEF
*Consumer Comment: Oh Danny boy, will you ever learn??
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Kevin has the bike and I have the proof!!!
*Consumer Comment: scumbag stiels
*Consumer Comment: About that check....
*Consumer Comment: Daniel's legal threats toward ripoffreport unfounded:
*Consumer Comment: Wow, what a response!
*Consumer Suggestion: Possible solution
*Consumer Comment: Bull CRAP!
*Consumer Comment: who is the lady
*Consumer Comment: legal matters take time
*Consumer Suggestion: Foolishness
*Consumer Comment: daniel james stiel
*Consumer Comment: This isn't a joke
*Consumer Comment: daniel james stiel
*Consumer Suggestion: Win one for Tupper Lake! I WANT MY ROR TV!
*Consumer Suggestion: you got the maggot suspended from eBay for which I am grateful.
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL J STIEL 168 leonard drive tennesee
*Consumer Comment: Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
*Consumer Comment: Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
*Consumer Comment: Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
*Consumer Comment: Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL J STIEL 168 leonard drive tennesee
*Consumer Comment: Jail? Court? Or Just Net Banter?
*Author of original report: daniel j stiel THE THIEF
*Consumer Suggestion: UPDATE TIME / Where is Daniel?
*Consumer Comment: scammer daniel j stiel
*Consumer Suggestion: STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL THE THIEF
*Author of original report: STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL
*Consumer Suggestion: A BRIEF NOTE TO THE FECES FACE FROM TENNESSEE
*Consumer Suggestion: Have you thought about small claims court?
*Consumer Comment: Why have you noy paid this man back???
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL (STEAL) STIEL / Filthy Cockroach !!!
*Consumer Suggestion: daniel j stiel THE THIEF
*Consumer Suggestion: daniel the thief stiel
*Consumer Comment: Daniel j stiel the thief
*Author of original report: still no refund from daniel
*Author of original report: still no refund from daniel
*Author of original report: still no refund from daniel
*Author of original report: still no refund from daniel
*Consumer Comment: daniel j stiels the scammer this is an email I received from a happy customer. Mr stiel neglected to disclose is that he never had the item he was auctioning off on hand.
*Consumer Suggestion: DANIEL J STIEL THE SCAMMER, ITS FAR FROM OVER WITH DANNY BOY
*Consumer Suggestion: I can't believe this wasn't resolved, this man is clearly a fraud
*Consumer Suggestion: Daniel J. Steal ...You're a Filthy Maggot !!!
*Consumer Comment: This is out of hand!
*Consumer Suggestion: I GOT WHAT IT TAKES SCUM BAG ..you're a loser trying to find more ways out rather then give this man his money back.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Who the hell are you!?!?!?
*Consumer Suggestion: SUsan Danny should be concidered as a new breed of animal thats has escaped from his cage
*Consumer Suggestion: WONDER IF DANIEL TOOK ANYTHING FROM ANY HOUSE HE WORKED AT
*Consumer Comment: This guy needs to go to jail. He is a peice of scum.
*Consumer Suggestion: Where's the CRAPHEAD from TENNESSEE ?
*Author of original report: daniel the scammer stiels, i will post danny's bounced check
*Consumer Comment: Whats the matter Danny? No interent service now?
*Consumer Suggestion: You Go Jersey Boy!
*Consumer Suggestion: Scum Bag! I got you banned from Ebay and just to let you know, you should be shopping for a new internet provider too.
*Consumer Suggestion: Disgraceful
*Consumer Suggestion: Disgraceful
*Consumer Suggestion: Disgraceful
*Author of original report: STILL NO REFUND DANIEL
*Consumer Suggestion: Daniel...You Are So Full of Crap !!!
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You are all messed up people
*Consumer Comment: Check this out, Mr. Stiel does not live where he says he does.
*Consumer Suggestion: Sue Me ... You Toiletrous Turd !!!
*Consumer Comment: RIPPED ME OFF TO
*Consumer Comment: BANNED FROM EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Consumer Comment: REFUND HIS MONEY YOU THIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Consumer Comment: How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
*Consumer Comment: How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
*Consumer Comment: How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
*Consumer Comment: How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: daniel j stiel
*Consumer Comment: I have enough on you to put you away bud!
*Consumer Comment: Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
*Consumer Comment: Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
*Consumer Comment: Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: ebayer daniel j stiel, he claimed atv was in tennessee than it was in japan then in china now homeland security is holding it up on a cargo ship.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Rip off reports Being sued for Slander, and Kevin as well!!!!!!!
*Consumer Comment: I'd give you 7 days ..are currently on the hook big time
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Scammed by being called a scammer
*Consumer Comment: Definitly a scammmer
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As far as I know, he has ripped off a lot of ebayers,until now. I paid $545.00 to this scum bag for a mini atv, which I never received. Nor was it ever shipped. This was a Christmas present for my grandson. Check him out on ebay. His ID is dstiel05.
Although he has removed his email at aol wich was djstiel@aol, I was able to find another one that he is using, which is jlgrainger2005@aol.com. Feel free to reflect your opinion on this scumbag.

Kevin
TUPPER LAKE, New York
U.S.A.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/02/2005 07:21 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/DANIEL-J-STIEL/Jonesborough-Tennessee-37659/DANIEL-J-STIEL-ripoff-sold-me-atv-he-didnt-have-this-was-for-grandson-christmas-present-J-125437. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 Author of original report
daniel stiels
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 27, 2010
#3 Consumer Suggestion
Protections Actually offered by PayPal
AUTHOR: Matt - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
1. Look at the seller feedback, don't buy from people with less then 98% positive feedback or less then 50 total feed backs
2. Its in plain sight for the most part, review the seller's history and feedback supplied by real buyers.
3. THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT, PAYPAL WILL COVER YOU IF SAYS "FREE PAYPAL BUYER PROTECTION" If it says "LEARN HOW YOUR PROTECTED" in stead of "FREE PAYPAL BUYER PROTECTION" Then you could very well get screwed. This is the money processors guarantee that they will refund you the full amount of transaction price up to a $1,000.00 How do I know this? Through experience. I bought something got ripped off! So I called and was very pissed. Then I spoke to a manager, that let me know what was covered and what wasn't. I had another problem, filed a complaint and was covered the full transaction price.
#4 Consumer Comment
Daniel Steals AGAIN!
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 25, 2006
Oh and PLEASE MR. SCAMMER STEALS, ROT while your in ALABAMA!!!!
I certainly hope you maintain your standards of ripping people off there so maybe someone will take care of you properly!
#5 Author of original report
BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 25, 2006
#6 Consumer Comment
Well, Well, Well. Well?
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 25, 2006
And DJ Stiel, why don't you post that delivery confirmation? That would go a long way in helping you out here.
And Kevin, why not post the check(s) that bounced? That would go a long way of helping you out.
Maybe you guys should settle this through some Jell-o wrestling.
Also, for the ads on TriCities, are you sure it's the right Daiel Stiele you are confronting?
#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds
MERRY CHRISTMAS YA'LL
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 24, 2006
#8 Consumer Comment
you let him talk to you like that??
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, August 13, 2006
I know how the police department works.. I live in NYC they don't take internet crimes seriously. If you complain enough and get a lawyer involved they will do something about it. If the police refuse to do anything and harm falls upon you , the police are reasonable for not acting on those threats he sent to you. I hope you luck and that this piece of scum is locked up in a hole.
#10 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 04, 2006
#11 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
#12 Consumer Comment
Whatever became of this man?
AUTHOR: Jenn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
#13 Consumer Comment
Where is he now?
AUTHOR: Jennifer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2006
How is Jessica of Kingsley Michigan hooked up with Daniel?
There are 2 posts attributed to her on 30 October 2005. In the first, she claims to have been victimized by Kevin and, (if I understand this correctly) this rebuttal was determined to be bogus. In the second, which times in at a little over 12 hours later, she wishes him good luck with the oic, we dont reside in Tn no more, and with the company, well, chapter 7 filed, were done.
After that, there doesn't appear to be any acknowledgement from either Daniel or Jessica.
Where is this guy? Where is this "Jessica"? Is she in on it too?
Have any of the complainants heard from Daniel since October of 2005?
Jennifer
Aurora, Colorado
#14 Consumer Comment
HEY SCUM BAG DANNY!,
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 11, 2006
Anyway, just wanted to remind you, I'm still here waiting for you to pay up and/or show up. Oh and before I forget, your a low life dirt bag scammer that should be avoided at all costs.
Now I'm off to those other sites you visit to make more informative posts for ya.
BEWARE PEOPLE! THIS LOSER SCAMS, CHEATS AND STEALS FOR A LIVING AND DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT IT AT ALL. LOCK UP YOUR STUFF HE MIGHT STEAL AND SELL IT.
#15 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 14, 2006
#16 Consumer Comment
We NEED an UPDATE! ..the scammer is going to different forums
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 13, 2006
I know Danny the scammer is going to different forums and trying to reverse the role, but we all know the truth. PAY UP SCAMMER!
#17 Author of original report
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 12, 2005
#18 Author of original report
email Daniel stiels sent to a seller on ebay notice the dates!! I paid stiels $544.00 on 12/20/2004
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 11, 2005
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: You suck COCK!!!!!
Can you say Harrassment, I have alreay delt with mediater, Original Message -----
From: Kevin
To: DJSTIEL@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Brand New 2005 Pocket Bike Mini ATV/QUAD 49cc - RED (7121768781)
I have not received your payment as promised. Enlight of the Holiday seasons, I am willing to extend the pay by date to Monday December 27th 2004 by no later than 11:59pm. However after that date/time I can no longer wait for broken promises, I will be forced to file a NPB Alert with Ebay. If there is some reason you are failing to complete our transaction please let me know ASAP.
------ Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Brand New 2005 Pocket Bike Mini ATV/QUAD 49cc - RED (7121768781)
----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:01 PM
Subject: WARNING!!!!!All my Emails will contain virusus, check and see
-------Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: You suck COCK!!!!!
not as much as you "TRASH" I hope they do as well. I was buying the item, sent off the money, and you decide to cancel me or whatever, If I get another Email from you il cALL THE COPS.
I will purchase today. promiseOriginal Message
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From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: You suck COCK!!!!!
I sent off a Money Order For THE BIKE< I CALLED AND HAD IT CANCELLED< Now you Can go FUCK YOURSELF YOU COCK SUCKING MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!
Do not reply to this Email
#19 Author of original report
DANIEL JAMES STIEL sends filthy, nasty and threatening emails
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 11, 2005
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: You suck COCK!!!!!
email sent by Daniel to seeler on ebay
I sent off a Money Order For THE BIKE< I CALLED AND HAD IT CANCELLED< Now you Can go FUCK YOURSELF YOU COCK SUCKINGMOTHERFUCKER!!!!!
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----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
I just want to wish you and your grandson who prob dont exsist a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Oh, and the truck, well, That's because Im getting a Brand New One! HAHA and you know what you little fuck. You aint man enough to stand in front of me and say what you do. But hey, Merry Christmas Anyway you sick lying little fuck! Tell your Grandson I said Hi. And a Very Merry Christmas. Actually, I wish him and you the worst, worst in health, worst in financial difficulties. Does he know Grandpa Lies and steals from others that deliver. We know you got the atv you fat fuck. I hope you all have a very fucked Christmas! You fucking fuck! And I hope you and your Family get sick and die of some unknown fucking diseases!!!! And to say it all---MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHe
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----- Original Message -----
From: DJSTIEL@aol.com
To: Kevin
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: To your Grandson
Dear Kevin Grandson,
Just want to let you know what kind of man your Grandpa Kevin is:
Your Grandpa steals and lies about people that send him things, and also believes he is innocent. sad sad man. Sorry lil one. But your grandpa fucks sheep and uses the holy bible to wipe himself clean. So when you get your Christmas presents this year, Remember, some one else paid for them! Because Grandpa Kevin is a sick, child molesting Fuck! and deserves nothing for Christmas, And you tell him that. tell him that if he was or wants to be man enough, step on my land and face me like a man, but beware for whome he thinks he is if he does dicide to do so, because my property is protected by a 357, and it isnt shy to use it.
#20 Consumer Suggestion
BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 11, 2005
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1964 CORVAIR Monza 4 door sedan
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this is a solid 1964 4 door sedan, I will send pics or you can come test drive. All works well, all chrome is there All you need is a paint jobs and roof liner for int. Radio even works has a 2 speed powerglide transmission. Interior in Great shape! NEW tires all maint. records since factory, and even sales reciept, along with window sales papers. Really a sweet project,ready to paint, primer finished. will sell for 1300. obo or trade for old car or truck.or 4 wheeler or motorcycle. Or Boat. Something fun in other words. This car is classic kelly at 3000, Paint it and a few interior mods and you have 10,000
Where: jonesborough, TN
Make: Chevrolet
Model: Corvair Monza 4 Door
Color: Gold
Mileage: 50,000
Price: $1,300
Title Type: Standard
VIN: TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. danielstiel@yahoo.com
Added: Oct 22, 2005, 11:10 AM
Updated: Dec 4, 2005, 08:12 PM
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comp soloflex system
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complete equipt. Lots of extras over 3000.00 invested, will let go for the right deal. Make offer
Where: jonesborough, TN
Price: $0.00
cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. or danielstiel@yahoo.com
Added: Sep 30, 2005, 08:09 PM
Updated: Dec 4, 2005, 08:12 PM
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1993 Chevy Suburban, NICE!!!!!!! 4x4 loaded
Vehicles / Trucks
4x4 silver chevy suburban, fully loaded electric everything, nice truck $5500.00 3rd row seating and nice stereo, tow package, excellent running truck, 2nd owner, taken very good care of, non smoking truck. Excellent in and out. Pic of truck is exactly the same, i didnt have a pic, byut just picture it silver and black tinit windows. I can send e-mails of pic. Truck is blue book at 6900.00, i am sacrificing alot. I have alot of extras in it.
Where: jonesborough, TN
Make: AM General
Model: 1993
Color: Silver
Mileage: 150,000
Price: $4,700
Title Type: Standard
VIN:
cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. danielstiel@yahoo.com
Added: Sep 30, 2005, 08:09 PM
Updated: Dec 4, 2005, 08:12 PM
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Soloflex
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complete equipt. Lots of extras over 3000.00 invested, will let go for the right deal. Make offer 150.00 sounds good
Where: jonesborough, TN
Price: $0.00
cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. or Danielstiel@yahoo.com
Added: Sep 29, 2005, 09:09 PM
Updated: Nov 20, 2005, 09:11 AM
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Baby stuff girls and boys
General Merchandise / Miscellaneous
Not a retailer, we are just a crowded family home. Needing to empty some space. We have way too much, WAY too much to list, just email me and tell me what you want. I know we have it. Boys stuff 2.5 years and under, and girls 1 and under! Hurry, we will not hold for long!You make reasonable offer. Or trade for something for kids. Everything like new if not it is new. Double strollers, eddie bauer play pens, Computers, New Crib. Listen, these things are awesome and need a good home. And we are willing to help out by either selling or trading for something for my kids. ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!
Where: jonesborough, TN
Price: $0.00
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KIDS THINGS! BABY THINGS!!!!!CLOTHES!!!!
General Merchandise / Household Items
Not a retailer, we are just a crowded family home. Needing to empty some space. We have way too much, WAY too much to list, just email me and tell me what you want. I know we have it. Boys stuff 2.5 years and under, and girls 1 and under! Hurry, we will not hold for long!You make reasonable offer. Or trade for something for kids. Everything like new if not it is new. Double strollers, eddie bauer play pens, Computers, New Crib. Listen, these things are awesome and need a good home. And we are willing to help out by either selling or trading for something for my kids. ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!
Where: jonesborough, TN
Price: $0.00
cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn danielstiel@yahoo.com.
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Updated: Nov 20, 2005, 09:11 AM
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CHEAP!!! We have WAY TOO MUCH STUFF!!! Baby Stuff like Eddie Bauer Travel Crib, double strollers, girls clothes like new ages 0-1 years old, boys ages 0-3 years old. More toys than toys r us(lol) we need more room, we have WAY TOO MUCH. You can pick what you want. The more you buy the cheaper it is. For Example--eddie Bauer travel crib, originally 180.00 will let have for 25.00. all is in EXCELLENT SHAPE!!!!!!! make an offer on all clothes or all baby stuff! This stuff is in Excellent shape! We need more room, we are being overcome with thease things, we paid real good money for. Just make an offer on all or some!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where: jonesborough, TN
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cell: 423-483-3905 Jonesborough,Tn. danielstiel@yahoo.com
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#21 Author of original report
Danny stiels aol t stiel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 10, 2005
PS still waiting for the atv!! is it still on that boat that homeland security is holding up
#22 Consumer Comment
Very interesting, eh?
AUTHOR: Adolph - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 09, 2005
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Yeah, right. He'll SELL you ANYTHING you 'want'. Uhhh....delivery? Well, that's an issue open to conjecture.
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Another quote:" ATTENTION FLEAMARKETERS!!! We dont want your business. These things are for someone who needs them! All proceeds will go to my kids for educational things, and possible katrina Donation from my kids!"
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That is the most disgusting bit of self serving braggadocio bull $hit I've witnessed lately. He's a legend in his own mind.'Ol Danny boy is a regular pillar of society. NOT!
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Somehow the term "bottom feeder" comes to mind.
#23 Consumer Comment
Yep DANIEL J STIEL don't pay any of his bills
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 09, 2005
What A SCUM BAG LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#24 Consumer Comment
Dang, he's selling a truck, a car, Antiques & Collectibles, baby stuff, computers, comp soloflex system and anything that you want that he's got in his house and he says he has it all.
AUTHOR: Rita - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 09, 2005
I don't believe for a second that you're selling stuff for your kids education so why don't you give your kids a real education by showing them that daddy makes good with the world by returning people's money because he's a good guy and good guys don't take advantage of other people.
After all I've read on this case, I can safely say that I wouldn't spit on you Dan if you were on fire. You're pond scum and you stink! ppppppppppppuuuuuuuuu, you yucky little scum wad.
That other deal where he can afford to buy an old car but he can't refund your money. Oh, question, did you ever look at the retaliatory feedback Dan gave a seller that Dan didn't pay for an ATV he bid on? I believe it's the feedback right before the one you gave. Go check out the feedback Dan left that guy. Funny how he was trying to buy an ATV yet selling one to you. What a piece of work. He screws the guy by not paying and then he says on his feedback to the guy something like... the seller sells junk ATVs that only run for 5 hours.
#26 Consumer Suggestion
BEWARE HE'S AT IT AGAIN tricitiesnow.com
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 09, 2005
#27 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
#28 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
#29 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
#30 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL JAMES STIEL 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESSE
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
#31 Consumer Suggestion
Danny used the money for his sex change
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 19, 2005
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.
SCAMMER, LIAR!
#32 Consumer Suggestion
Danny used the money for his sex change
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 19, 2005
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.
SCAMMER, LIAR!
#33 Consumer Suggestion
Danny used the money for his sex change
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 19, 2005
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.
SCAMMER, LIAR!
#34 Consumer Suggestion
Danny used the money for his sex change
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 19, 2005
So Danny, er uh I mean Jessica (if thats what you want to call yourself) it's not like we won't find out, but make it easier on us and just tell us where you moved to. Only because we would like to make contect with legal system there and see how well it goes for you.
SCAMMER, LIAR!
#35 Consumer Suggestion
I Am Now A Believer In Euthenasia !!!
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 02, 2005
I have come to the conclusion that euthenasia is the only answer.
#36 Author of original report
who is scamming who daniel j stiel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 31, 2005
#37 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Kevin FortieR the thief
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Note this publically.
#38 Author of original report
daniel james stiels the scamming thief from 168 leonard drive tennesse
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#39 Consumer Suggestion
daniel the thief stiels, now posing as Jessica
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#40 Consumer Comment
Paypal doesnt give out information on other consumers!
AUTHOR: Donna - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Paypal would never do this..The person who ripped me off had also done this to 3 others who I was able to contact via her neg. FB on ebay, and we were able to get her kicked off ebay (at least under THAT name), but paypal would not reverse charges even though I told them of the others who were ripped off. They would not discuss anybody else with me, as it is a violation of privacy. And they just kept telling me to show proof..I do not know why Jessica would make that up about Mr. Fortier unless she is doing this to help out the man who originally ripped Mr Fortier off. That is sad. This is a man who was trying to do something wonderful for his son and its turned into a nightmare for him and the family. He doesnt need his name besmirched by lies just because he's trying to warn others. Good luck to you sir, and I am so sorry to see this is still dragging on and on for you.
#41 Consumer Comment
Daniel isnt the only one ripped off <------ this is a BOGUS REBUTTAL! ..this REBUTTAL and the one below was authored by the same person with the same IP address & the exact same e-mail address. We deleted the posting below.
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!
#42 Consumer Comment
Daniel isnt the only one ripped off <------ this is a BOGUS REBUTTAL! ..this REBUTTAL and the one below was authored by the same person with the same IP address & the exact same e-mail address. We deleted the posting below.
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!
#43 Consumer Comment
Daniel isnt the only one ripped off <------ this is a BOGUS REBUTTAL! ..this REBUTTAL and the one below was authored by the same person with the same IP address & the exact same e-mail address. We deleted the posting below.
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!
#44 Consumer Comment
Daniel isnt the only one ripped off <------ this is a BOGUS REBUTTAL! ..this REBUTTAL and the one below was authored by the same person with the same IP address & the exact same e-mail address. We deleted the posting below.
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
We had copied the cards prior to shipping them, with reciept that there was indeed the amount on them, contacted t.r.u. and they said that he had used them in New York last week. Pay pal gave him back his money because I was out of town for a funeral in Baton Rouge(Hurricane Victim in Family) I originally got those cards for hotel stays. Reward Points. I am in contact with pay pal, in which I provided all nec. proof. They toold me this wasnt the first victim of Kevin Fortier, and gave me Daniel's Name(E-mail) and my husband contacted him, He said he would rather just take the loss being that he felt bad because he couldnt prove he recieved the bike due to a overseas company not responding with delivery info. So he said he sent 100.00. to try to pay payments. But then recived proof. Mr. Fotier, Cant you just be honest and not try to rip people off, especially thru some rip off report. People want to keep theyre good name, and you think by trying to ruin it,that they will give you what you want. You should be ashamed, even using your grandkids with us as well. You sad. Maybe new york aint so safe after all, especially from ebayers like you!
#45 Consumer Suggestion
danny the thief stiels
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#46 Consumer Suggestion
daniel james stiels the scamming thief from 168 leonard drive tennesse
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#47 Consumer Comment
DANIEL JAMES STIELS THE THIEF
AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#48 Consumer Comment
Oh Danny boy, will you ever learn??
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#49 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Kevin has the bike and I have the proof!!!
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
I will use it.
#51 Consumer Comment
About that check....
AUTHOR: Ken - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
I am talking in generalities here, I understand that the check in question did not clear, so you are OK, but if it had, I believe legally you just kissed the other 400 odd dollars goodbye.
Be very careful (i.e. dont!) about endorsing a check with conditions written on it.
#52 Consumer Comment
Daniel's legal threats toward ripoffreport unfounded:
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
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Rip off reports Being sued for Slander, and Kevin as well!!!!!!!
Rip off Report have no way of knowing the truth, and I will be filing a lawsuit against them For slander, and allowing such rediculous words to be exchanged. I have the paperwork filled out, and will be submitting Monday morning, BETTER WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS. A signature has been confirmed of delivery, and Tiger Int. confirmed it has arrived to its shipping location in Tupper Lake NY. If some one else signed for is NOT my responsibilty, Now, I will sue Rip off reports and Kevin and have My Proof to bring, Rip off reports are false and they never check to see if the reports are correct, or if some one is just trying to scam in return. Let me tell, I am not very good at bluffing, never won a poker game and dont like liers, so you can be assured I will know rip-off reports you know what in the dirt in court and all theyre B.S. to follow. WATCH OUT RIP OFF REPORTS, better file for unemployement cause I PROMISE to you, and all. We will be in court. I have proof of delivery and I assure you this wont ever happen to somweone again. I have great attornies! I dont like people who allow slander, and liers who recieve things, then try to get money back as well, Rip off reports needs to start following up and call people before allowng such complete B.S. to be said.!!!!!!!
Daniel - Jonesborough, Tennessee
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Daniel the scammer obviously was lying, as if he had ever talked to a lawyer, and filled out lawsuit papers, he would know that he cannot sue ripoffreport for publishing this information.
In legalese:
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The operation of an internet web site upon which others post statements is an activity that is governed by the Communications Decency Act, 47 U.S.C.A. 230. Carafano v. Metrosplash.com, Inc. 339 F.3d 1119 (9th Cir. 2003); Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 129 F.3d 327 (4th Cir. 1997).
47 U.S.C. 230 provides that No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information
content provider. Because Rip-off Report can not legally be treated as a publisher or speaker of information provided by a third party, they can not be liable for claims of defamation, invasion of privacy, negligence, and interference with contract. Id.; Schneider v. Amazon.com. Inc., 31 P.3d 37 (Wash. App. 2001).
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Sorry jackass. You can still sue the complainer, but good luck proving that you shipped something you didn't.
#53 Consumer Comment
Wow, what a response!
AUTHOR: Deborah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
The rest of what I saw in this thread? Well, what can I say? While I agree that keeping the pressure up might be helpful, some of the veiled threats and name calling went across the line.
As for Daniel Stiel's reputation, that was tarnished by him alone long before it reached ROR. You want to sue someone for libel Danny? Try coming after me. I checked you out pretty thoroughly. The fact you weren't arrested for grand larceny amazes me, along with interstate wire fraud, etc. You also clearly intended to defraud your victims on eBay, and never intend to make good unless forced to. You can't sue ROR or Kevin because the report is documented and accurate. Libel requires that the information published be false, which it clearly is not since you have produced zero evidence to the contrary to counter the evidence presented by Kevin. As for suing others, good luck. The US Supreme Court has many times protected the rights of others to their own opinions. If you check very carefully, you will see that is just what the other comments by those not directly involved in the matter were. Speech clearly labelled as commentary or opinion is not cause for libel nor slander. So go ahead, try to sue someone.
Many states have reduced the threshhold of grand theft from $1,000 to only $500. This means you might be charged with a felony, which means rather than jail, you go to a state prison. Given you appear to have committed interstate wire fraud, you may be facing significant federal time as well.
Kevin - It is clear this suspect has no intention of repaying you. You need to file criminal charges and a civil suit ASAP before time runs out. Start out by contacting the Tennessee State Attorney General (fecal matter rolls downhill). Be polite and to the point, leave opinion out of it. In a civil suit, you can also recoup expenses relating to prosecuting the matter, such as court costs, travel, time (sometimes), legal and filing fees, etc. The judgement is good for ten years, and you can seize everything and anything he owns until the judgement is satisfied, including any wages earned.
Let us know if any of the constructive solutions work out or not.
As for the rest of you, thank God I'm an honest person! I'd hate to have you guys mad at me, lol.
#54 Consumer Suggestion
Possible solution
AUTHOR: Douglas - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
PL 190.05 Issuing a bad check-B Misdemeanor
PL 190.20 False Advertising -A Misdemeanor
PL 155.25 Petit Larceny -A Misdemeanor
PL 190.60 Scheme to defraud -A Misdemeanor
Insist that a warrant be drawn for his arrest. This will place his name in our N.Y.S.P.I.N. system. This is the New York State Police Information Network. It will also show up in other law enforcement data bases when his name is run to further complicate his life.
Then contact the police department who covers Daniel's area and fax them a copy of the warrant and case information. Insist they draw similar charges in their area as well for him.
The "Issuing a bad check" charge is only if he mailed you a refund check that bounced.
Once the charges and warrant have been drawn contact the U.S. Postal Inspector who covers where Daniel lives and inform him of Daniel's activates. If he used the U.S. Mail for any of his illegal activities he can be arrested on separate federal charges. Please include all of the victims who were ripped off by him when talking to the Inspector to get them interested.
Hope this helps...
P.S. If you can document more than $1,000 in assets stolen by him it is a felony situation in N.Y. and he can be extradited for it.
Are you Danny's boy friend? Why would you (or anyone for that matter) defend Danny the RIP-OFF scum bag?
PAY UP DANNY!
It's been far too long.
I certainly hope your so called Construction company went under. It should have taken you with it.
Oh and I gotta say, your truck looks pretty lame, it defenitly says alot about your business and the kind of money you steal....LOL You can't rich robbing the poor, stupid FOOL!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
#57 Consumer Comment
legal matters take time
AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
New Jersey guy......Daniel could take you to court for the death threats you are giving him.
The lady is right about Tupper Lake.
Everything I read about Tupper Lake is trailer trash.
If you really have something on Daniel then he would be in jail.
#59 Consumer Comment
daniel james stiel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#61 Consumer Comment
daniel james stiel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#62 Consumer Suggestion
Win one for Tupper Lake! I WANT MY ROR TV!
AUTHOR: Karlton - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Hope you get more of your money back, perhaps you could send some to Rip Off report for helping you expose the crook?
For real fun search Rip Off Report for Tupper Lake you will have endless hours of reading about the "locals". But this report goes to prove even people from Tupper Lake can use Rip Off Report for good not comedy. ;)
I WANT MY ROR TV!
#63 Consumer Suggestion
you got the maggot suspended from eBay for which I am grateful.
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
It apppears to be very unlikely that you will ever get a full refund of your $$$. However, I appreciate your efforts to expose Daniel Stiel to the world for what he is...a filthy slime sucking thieving lying putrid slug of a pitiful excuse for a human being.
At least you got the maggot suspended from eBay for which I am grateful.
THANKS
#64 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL J STIEL 168 leonard drive tennesee
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#65 Consumer Comment
Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!
Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.
I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!
#66 Consumer Comment
Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!
Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.
I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!
#67 Consumer Comment
Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!
Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.
I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!
#68 Consumer Comment
Really, Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
As far as Karlton's comments, how is this Net banter and how is this for fun? First of all, The thief seems to read this so it gets his attention secondly, FUN? What bridge did you fall off?, This is FUN? To the tune of approx. $500.00???? Why don't you send Kevin the $500.00 and then the fun will stop. Let it cost you, then you can say when it needs to stop. Until then shut your mouth!
Last thing we need is for you to defend the crock. Oh, maybe your his skanky old lady trying to help him out of this..... Oh and do a bit of spell check yourself (Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!) maybe supposed to be word? instead of wood???.
I truely believe there are many forms of retards in todays world, although we see a few, there are more then we know. Karlton's post says a lot, people like that think they are better and know much more then they really do, these are the people that cause most of todays problems. Do us all a favor and stay off the net!
#69 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL J STIEL 168 leonard drive tennesee
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Buy Daniel's construction company so he can pay me back. It is for sale at Tricitiesnow.com. He owes me $444.00.
#70 Consumer Comment
Jail? Court? Or Just Net Banter?
AUTHOR: Karlton - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
1) What happened to the police visits did he go to jail for even a booking?
2) Why are there no bank markings on the "back" of the "bounced" check(s)?
3) Why not post a scan of the FRONT of the "bad check"?
4) Why are the people from Tupper Lake NY always on this site?
5) What are the court docket numbers for all the legal actions that have been so boldly thrown out here?
Point is if your really not going to haul him into court posting here is only for fun and games. Now get this guy or move on!
Oh and a wood to the crook SPELL CHECK!
#71 Author of original report
daniel j stiel THE THIEF
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#72 Consumer Suggestion
UPDATE TIME / Where is Daniel?
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
I realize that you are probably very busy this time of year with your "construction company". However, I, along with several others, would like an update.
HAVE YOU PAID UP YET ???
#73 Consumer Comment
scammer daniel j stiel
AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#74 Consumer Suggestion
STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL THE THIEF
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
AS OF 5/2/2005 STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL THE THIEF FROM 168 LEONARD DRIVE JONESBORO TENNESEE BEWARE OF THIS SCAMMER DO NOT LET THIS INDIVIDUAL CON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#75 Author of original report
STILL NO REFUND FROM DANIEL J STIEL
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#76 Consumer Suggestion
A BRIEF NOTE TO THE FECES FACE FROM TENNESSEE
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
It has become quite evident that you are not going to respond to the accusations which have been leveled against you in this forum and that is certainly understandable. You are, without a doubt, one of the most vile and loathsome villains to ever grace the hallowed halls of eBay.
I can just imagine you sitting on the steps of your roach infested single wide trailer, drinking beer, and smoking generic cigarettes while you wait for your next welfare check. You are truly a piece of human feces.
There is only one way to redeem yourself in the eyes of millions who are disgusted with you...PAY UP !!!!
#77 Consumer Suggestion
Have you thought about small claims court?
AUTHOR: Carl - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Just last month, I filed suit on behalf of a client who was owed $9330. My client got a check the day after the process server delivered copies of the lawsuit to the defendants.
#78 Consumer Comment
Why have you noy paid this man back???
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Why have you noy paid this man back???
Oh man, I would have had you in the clink by now! Some one else posted right on, you are a TURD!
I have an idea, we should setup a donation page for Kevin and a few other people, If everyone who thinks this is wrong would pitch in a dollar, I'll bet we could get enough money to fly a few people over to Danny's house in no time. This needs to be resolved now! What kind of Sheriff lets this continue in his State?? Is this what Tenn. is about?? Scamming paople and getting away with it? Breaking fedral laws and having no fear of it??
The representaion of the judicial system over there is evident! This man should have been arrested long ago! We need to get that Sheriff off his butt and do his JOB! This is just unexceptable!
This is why people take the law into their own hands!
We should all start calling and faxing the sheriff, attorney general and district attorney in your county copies of the Rip-off Report on you till they take action.
#79 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL (STEAL) STIEL / Filthy Cockroach !!!
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Why haven't you refunded this man's $$$ ???
I just bet the money's in the mail. Right ???
You are a disgraceful piece of putrid feces.
#80 Consumer Suggestion
daniel j stiel THE THIEF
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#81 Consumer Suggestion
daniel the thief stiel
AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#82 Consumer Comment
Daniel j stiel the thief
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#83 Author of original report
still no refund from daniel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#84 Author of original report
still no refund from daniel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#85 Author of original report
still no refund from daniel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#86 Author of original report
still no refund from daniel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#87 Consumer Comment
daniel j stiels the scammer this is an email I received from a happy customer. Mr stiel neglected to disclose is that he never had the item he was auctioning off on hand.
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#88 Consumer Suggestion
DANIEL J STIEL THE SCAMMER, ITS FAR FROM OVER WITH DANNY BOY
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#89 Consumer Suggestion
I can't believe this wasn't resolved, this man is clearly a fraud
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/isgw-buyer-protection-steps.html
This man is clearly a fraud, and I'm usually skeptic when people claim thing's like threating e-mails and such; but with the demeanor this man has shown on this website I believe it.
Secondly, I would take him to small claims court. If this man has ripped off numerous people I would get together and file official complaints.
If your having problems finding him he's COMPLETELY traceable on the internet. Every time he visits a site he is leaving his isp assigned IP (Internet Protocol) address, which is traceable to him through this website and through his ISP. His ISP won't release his information without a court order, so theres simply no point in asking if your not taking him to court.
If you do plan on taking him to court, I'm sure that the kind people a www.ripoffreport.com, and www.ebay.com will help you out with logs. Also Don't e-mail him anymore. If your going to contact him do it through ebays messaging system.
Nail that puppy.
#90 Consumer Suggestion
Daniel J. Steal ...You're a Filthy Maggot !!!
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Just let me know when you can be here and we will move your name to the top of our schedule. I promise that it will be an experience you will not soon forget.
#91 Consumer Comment
This is out of hand!
AUTHOR: Nina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
All the foul names apply but by the end of the posts Mike and Arron seem to be acting childish. Even If you they are trying to help. This guy is a fraud and it seems he will pay for it, whick he should pay dearly.
Daniel should stop using the wife and newborn plea for simpathy, I believe a child was really scammed out of his christmas gift. Who cares about the child huh Daniel you got paid. That's even worse, scamming a child.
Which is what happened. I bet Kevin you still made his Christmas, it seems you have gone to great effort to make the child happy, only to taken in by a con artist. And Arron I am from Florida, I took that personally. I have friends in Tennessee, I don't call them names because I know of a con artist from there.
Go through the legal system Kevin as you have been. Don't lower yourself into a name calling war. Good Luck Kevin, Daniel I hope you are in jail a long time so the hard working people don't get scammed by you anymore.
#92 Consumer Suggestion
I GOT WHAT IT TAKES SCUM BAG ..you're a loser trying to find more ways out rather then give this man his money back.
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Yes, I do know who you are! Your a SCUM BAG LOSER SCAMMER!
I'm the first guy you ripped off! Let me refresh your memory: You won my auction and didn't pay. I left you Neg feedback for not paying, you left me Neg Feedback just because your a piece of CRAP! I then contacted Ebay about all your Neg feedback that followed mine, now your banned from Ebay, also contacted AOL about the threats of the Email virus you said your were going to send me, hopefully they too will pull the plug on you. Apparently I'm not done with them yet.
So NO, I will NOT get out! I will add to this because it ALL truth just like my add was. Your a LIAR and a THIEF! The world now knows it too. I have the balls to say everything to your face. This won't stop until you PAY THE MAN BACK! NO PAYMENT PLAN SCAMS, JUST GIVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK IN FULL----DAMN THIEF!
Your the piece of "Dung", and you SMELL!
#93 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Who the hell are you!?!?!?
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#94 Consumer Suggestion
SUsan Danny should be concidered as a new breed of animal thats has escaped from his cage
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
He does not own a Construction Company, he owns his very own CON Company. Appearently its not a very profitable business nor is he any good at it. I think what you need is a real construction company. You might want to check your yellow pages.
The sad part is, he gets caught and don't pay back. He CONS good people out of thier hard earned money.
Danny should be concidered as a new breed of animal thats has escaped from his cage. My gun is loaded and ready, when open season hits, I'm HOT on his trail.
#95 Consumer Suggestion
WONDER IF DANIEL TOOK ANYTHING FROM ANY HOUSE HE WORKED AT
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#96 Consumer Comment
This guy needs to go to jail. He is a peice of scum.
AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Daniel just pay up, its better then not being able to see your kids, other than behind a window.Do the right thing daniel
#97 Consumer Suggestion
Where's the CRAPHEAD from TENNESSEE ?
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Please advise if you know where he is.
#98 Author of original report
daniel the scammer stiels, i will post danny's bounced check
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005


This shows that daniel j stiels is the liar. he has sent me $100.00 towards the atv he sold me which he didn't have..
Danny told LT judy that he sent me a $200.00 money order he also gave the sheriff a check for $100.00 [the sheriff mailed the check] danny supposedley mailed the money order i will post danny's bounced check as soon as i get it back from his bank he will be arrested as soon as this happens poor danny cant come up with all the money that he stold from me thanks[MIKE AND Aaron] and any one else who filed reports on DANIEL J [which is for jerk]stiels WE GOT HIM GOOD
#99 Consumer Comment
Whats the matter Danny? No interent service now?
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
We are working on you Danny, have no fear, second thought YOU BETTER FEAR US!
LOSER, SCUM BAG, SCAMMER, give Kevin his money BACK NOW!
You need to post a response here, and soon Danny, like NOW! We need to hear from you...
#100 Consumer Suggestion
You Go Jersey Boy!
AUTHOR: Aaron - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Don't think that we're all like his sorry ass here in Tennessee. Most people here make an honest living unlike Daniel J. Stiel.
I lived in Johnson City, TN, for awhile. Johnson City is right next to Jonesborough. I worked with two different people who had been "SHEISTERED" by Stiel. I'm not real sure if they ever got anything rersolved with him. I didn't here about any "WHOOPINS'" so Daniel J. Stiel must have either gave them their money back or they just gave up.
If you truly decide to come to TN to stomp the hell out of Danny Boy, let me know. I want to see him get his spine broke into.....OH! I forgot......He doesn't have one! He likes to run his CROOKED business hiding in cyberspace like the coward thief that he is.
GOD BLESS and GOOD LUCK with your attack on this criminal Daniel J. Stiel. WE (REAL TENNESSEEANS) are ashamed that trash like Daniel J. Stiel call this state home. (I bet you he's not really from TN........probably FL)
#101 Consumer Suggestion
Scum Bag! I got you banned from Ebay and just to let you know, you should be shopping for a new internet provider too.
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Another tip for you SCUM BAG, look in other places on the net and you will find your name in several of them too! Just look for the label SCAMMER!
I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.
God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.
I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.
God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.
I, for one Tennessean, am ashamed of you. You have not only disgraced yourself but you have disgraced the great state of Tennessee. Are you really from here? Or are you just some sheister who floated in here from somewhere else to get on tenncare? Regardless of your answer, you ARE not an honest person. If you were, your comments on this thread would have been different. You simply made yourself look like the fool that you are.
God Bless! And Good Luck with your "SHEISTERING", Daniel J. "The Lyin' Crook" Stiel.
#105 Author of original report
STILL NO REFUND DANIEL
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#106 Consumer Suggestion
Daniel...You Are So Full of Crap !!!
AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
My question is...what did the authorities say or do to convince you that you were not being "scammed", as you put it?
I think you are as full of crap as the sewer you crawled out of.
STAY OFF EBAY !!!
#107 REBUTTAL Individual responds
You are all messed up people
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
That is if you can be willing to talk like men. This b.s. has to stop. Call
#108 Consumer Comment
Check this out, Mr. Stiel does not live where he says he does.
AUTHOR: Roger - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Good Luck
#109 Consumer Suggestion
Sue Me ... You Toiletrous Turd !!!
AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
You sound like a pathetic piece of human feces to me. Your pathetic threats and excuses make me nauseous.
REFUND THIS MAN HIS MONEY even if you have to get a title loan on that rust bucket Ford Tempo you drive.
If you had one ounce of integrity, you would never have allowed things to go this far.
If, by chance, you should happen to find an ambulance chasing layer to handle your case...I'll see you in court.
#110 Consumer Comment
RIPPED ME OFF TO
AUTHOR: Tiffany - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Most local police departments have a hard time going through with online fraud, but will forward them on to the proper departments. I say that you should file charges against him. He will go to jail, there is no doubt in my mind. You dont rip people off on this scale and just get away from it, He can give all the excuses he wants to us, but when it comes the the judge, it aint gonna fly.
good luck
see you in court
oh yea and sue me to that would be fun
#111 Consumer Comment
BANNED FROM EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
YOUR DONE ON EBAY LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No longer a registered user.
I hope they have all your details and back bill you for the money you stole from people! YOU SUCK!
Oh, and don't think this is done by a long shot, you still owe people, and you will pay them very soon.
Somebody go visit this retard and show him how business is done!
Post back with pictures if you can get the job done, we all wanna see....
#112 Consumer Comment
REFUND HIS MONEY YOU THIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Quit the B/S scam now and refund Kevin his money you loser!
You suck as a businessman and as a person!!!!!!!
People like you need to just DIE scumbag!!!!!!!!!
Nobody should ever do business with you! They are risking their money more than gambling at a casino.
Your business SUCKS too! Your work SUCKS! You SUCK!
I wonder how many people you did business with that you ripped off? I'm sure there are plenty. Reufnd those people too you friggin low life scumbag!
All I will say now is Watch your back!
#113 Consumer Comment
How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
AUTHOR: Ukiah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."
"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."
There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:
Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.
Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.
And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?
#114 Consumer Comment
How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
AUTHOR: Ukiah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."
"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."
There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:
Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.
Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.
And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?
#115 Consumer Comment
How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
AUTHOR: Ukiah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."
"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."
There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:
Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.
Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.
And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?
#116 Consumer Comment
How about case law Danny? ..First of all, it's libel not slander, moron.
AUTHOR: Ukiah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
"The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site."
"a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA)."
There are pages of case law out there Danny boy, going all the way back to the Prodigy days. Here are just a couple:
Batzel v. Smith, 2003 US App.LEXIS 12736 (9th Cir. 2003). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a listserv moderator and operator of a website that allegedly published defamatory material provided by a third party is eligible for immunity under the Commmunications Decency Act (CDA). The case revolves around an email sent by Robert Smith claiming that the plaintiff Batzel was a descendant of Heinrich Himmler and possessed looted paintings. The recipient of the email, Tom Cremers, who was the director of the Musuem Security Network, edited the email and posted it on the Network's website and listserv. Batzel filed suit against both men for defamation. The court held that Cremers was immune from liability under the CDA. The court noted that because Cremer did no more than select and make minor alterations to the email, he cannot be considered a content provider.
Bidbay.com Inc. v. Spry, No. B160126 (Cal. Ct. App, 2d App. Dist., 2003). A California court ruled on Internet chat rooms and the First Amendment. Plaintiff Bidbay.com brought a suit for defamation against Bruce Spry for posting allegedly libelous statements in an online chat room. Spry moved to dismiss the action under California's anti-strategic lawsuits against public participation law (Anti-SLAPP law). California's Anti-SLAPP law allows courts to strike causes of action arising from a defendant's exercise of free speech in a public forum in connection with a public issue. Bidbay.com argued that the Anti-SLAPP law did not apply becusee the online chat room was not a public forum because it had preveneted Bidbay from posting a rebuttal to the statments. The court disagreed and dismissed the case stating that an online chat room is a public forum, even if the operator of the chat room controls the content of the statements posted on the site.
And by the way, you now owe ME the sum of $300 (1/2 hour) for this research and citations. Ans since I already have your address, you'll be hearing from me. I mean, fair is fair, right?
#117 REBUTTAL Individual responds
daniel j stiel
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#118 Consumer Comment
I have enough on you to put you away bud!
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
I have enough on you to put you away bud!
Your lies are so bad I can smell them through my computer screen.
If anyone is slandering it is you, lets not forget to add false advertising and failure to comply with a contract that you agreed to when you placed your bids.
Your feedback speaks for itself! Your rating is a 3, out of 21 feedbacks!!!!!!!!
You have 7 negatives in the last month, how can you live with yourself?
You made comments in my feedback that were not true at all (thanks Ahole) and then you say you found out something in my ad wasn't true??? Your so full of it, I think you bid on my auction so you would have a better chance at selling your own SCAM. It didn't seem to bother you to stiff a bunch of people for the holidays did it? I hope you had a nice X-mas too, because if you don't clean up your act and the tracks you left, you may not see another one outside of bars!
You need to refund Kevin, and the other members money and remove your lame untrue feedback from my Ebay ID!
SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#119 Consumer Comment
Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months
positive....5..........13............13
neutral.....0...........0.............0
negative....7...........10...........10
feedback rating - 57.1%
seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others
#120 Consumer Comment
Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months
positive....5..........13............13
neutral.....0...........0.............0
negative....7...........10...........10
feedback rating - 57.1%
seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others
#121 Consumer Comment
Daniel, seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
.....Past Month-Past 6 Months- Past 12 Months
positive....5..........13............13
neutral.....0...........0.............0
negative....7...........10...........10
feedback rating - 57.1%
seems you have a habit of ripping people off on Ebay and probably other locations that have not yet been discovered. If I was Kevin, I would welcome a lawsuit from you and the chance to get you in court. People like you ruin the Ebay experience for others
#122 REBUTTAL Individual responds
ebayer daniel j stiel, he claimed atv was in tennessee than it was in japan then in china now homeland security is holding it up on a cargo ship.
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005


This shows that daniel j stiels is the liar. he has sent me $100.00 towards the atv he sold me which he didn't have..
i have been in contact with other individuals that stiels tried to take advantage of. they all sent me information on what he did one lady sent me the same story that he told me. he claimed atv was in tennessee than it was in japan then in china now homeland security is holding it up on a cargo ship. guess danny doesnt know that terrorist would not ride mini atv's this guy lies so much he is actually starting to believe his own BS storys your a sad little man. danny does your wife know your stealing christmas presents from little kids or is she in on it with you and by the way it's a federal offense to threaten to send a virus through email you are about to find out the sherriff is coming danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#123 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Rip off reports Being sued for Slander, and Kevin as well!!!!!!!
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
#124 Consumer Comment
I'd give you 7 days ..are currently on the hook big time
AUTHOR: Ukiah - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Too bad. That's YOUR problem, not the buyer's. So is shipping and refund processing. If you're stupid enough to do all this AND accept full liability for delivery, that also YOUR problem.
If you refund his money and he eventually gets his merchandise, then at that time you can seek legal remedy. In the meantime, you are currently on the hook big time. The buyer didn't pay "Tiger", he paid you. That's the end of the money chain pal, and it's your problem.
To the original buyer: I believe that more than enough time has passed. My advice is that you send a registered letter since you appear to have the address. In that letter you should demand a refund or delivery of the merchandise in 7 days. If you do not receive either, file CRIMINAL charges with the authorities in the county his business is in.
As to his threat to sue, that's a pure bluff, and a weak one to boot. Hell no he's not going to sue. The last thing he wants is to get mired up in the legal system - he'll end up in jail due to your criminal complaint.
Good luck!
#125 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Scammed by being called a scammer
AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005
Mr. Kevin Fortier mis the scammer. If he recieved it. But I am a respectable member of the community, and wont stand for some b.s. reports. I will NOT scam anyone. And if he did not recieve it. I will refund him, But It is important to give time for shipping. Because if I refunded him, and he recieves it, i can guarantee he would call to tell me. He would just keep it. That is if he has really recieved it. Remove this from my name, this man already spoke to me and I explained to him that he would be refunded, but needed time to get all info on shipping, for some reason Tiger dont respond or repond promptly, I dont need his money, I have my own.
#126 Consumer Comment
Definitly a scammmer
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 30, 2005

