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Complaint Review: Elena Petrova - Www.womenrussia.com

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  • Submitted: Tue, June 01, 2004
  • Updated: Thu, October 25, 2012

  • Reported By:Mathis Texas
Elena Petrova - Www.womenrussia.com
Suite 407/51, Robaina Town, Queensland, Australia Robaina Town, Queensland, Australia Australia

Elena Petrova, Www.elenasmodels.com Committing Fraud, Scams, And Defamation ripoff Robaina Town, Gold Coast, Australia internet

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Elena Petrova, Www.elenasmodels.com Committing Fraud, Scams, and married three times

*Consumer Comment: Where are you Elena? It's Time To Take Your Punishment

*Consumer Comment: The Elena Petrova Challenge The Challenge To Elena Petrova

*Consumer Comment: Lying Witch Elena Petrova Answer the Charges of Bias!

*Consumer Comment: Elena Petrova The Racist Finally Speaks: Long Live the RipoffReport for Exposing her and Elena's Models

*Consumer Comment: Elena Petrova needs to Get a Clue that these Reports are Not Coming Down

*Consumer Comment: "Positve" Retards who cannot seem to understand that this Report is not coming down-No one never said you retards you cannot find someone on the site it is what you find that is the issue here!

*Consumer Comment: Satisfied Customer

*Consumer Comment: Satisfied Customer

*Consumer Comment: JimsLists is Fishy

*Consumer Comment: LONG LIVE Elena's Models

*Consumer Comment: Maybe - Maybe not but I do not trust Jim's List

*Consumer Comment: Elena's Models is even worse now

*Consumer Comment: Elenas Models is a real company

*Consumer Comment: the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

*Consumer Comment: the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

*Consumer Comment: the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

*UPDATE Employee: Re: Joe

*Consumer Comment: WHY DON'T YOU GO OUT WITH AMERICAN WOMEN AND AVOID ALL THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

*UPDATE Employee: I and HUNDREDS of People Wants to SUE Mr Jim for Defamation and HIS RIP off BUSINESS

*Consumer Suggestion: This is Jim from agencyscams.com

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I confirm: Elena Petrova and her ElenasModels are the Biggest Scams in Online Dating Industry.

*Consumer Comment: Jay does not know what he is talking about

*Consumer Comment: Elena Soloman (Petrova)

*Consumer Comment: Wrong info on Elena Petrova

*Consumer Comment: Comment as to report

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Why This Report Is False and Misleading

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: This Report Is Posted By A Competitor

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Elena Petrova of www.elenasmodels.com and www.womenrussia.com is committing fraud and defamation of other agencies on her site as well as lying to men about the women on her site.

Here is the story:

Elena Petrova of Elenasmodels.com is running two sites. The other site is www.womenrussia.com where she runs down all other legitimate agencies and props her own site up. She has a forum but if you say anything bad about her agency, she will not post it of course.

she runs her office out of a hotel in the Ukraine which is littered with Prostitutes that you will meet if you go there, not the women on her site that are from all over Russia that she has no signed releases from the girls nor do any supporting agencies as they are just photos from local photographers of their models.

Elena Petrova is a scam.

She is closely alligned with www.agencyscams.com whom is run by Alexey Ivanov who calls himself only "Jim" as Alexey is a convicted hacker from St. Petersburg. The FBI arrested him up for blackmailing many large corporations.

She is also closely alligned with Spencer Forrest of www.rwguide.com who is currently being sued by www.firstdream.com in texas for libeling that company as well just like Elena Petrova does from her little island in Australia.

Mike
Dallas, Texas
U.S.A.

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Elena Petrova, Www.elenasmodels.com Committing Fraud, Scams, and married three times

AUTHOR: Mike - (United States of America)

Elena Petrova, Elena Solomon Elena Gold of www.elenasmodels.com and www.womenrussia.com that was married three times already and without children is committing fraud and defamation of other agencies on her site as well as lying to men about the women on her site.Here is the story:Elena Petrova of Elenasmodels.com is running two sites. The other site is www.womenrussia.com where she runs down all other legitimate agencies and props her own site up. She has a forum but if you say anything bad about her agency, she will not post it of course.

She herself that was married three times, goes under three diffrent last names, tell people on her website to marry a girl like me. She that was married three time already. What a joke.

she runs her office out of a hotel in the Ukraine which is littered with Prostitutes that you will meet if you go there, not the women on her site that are from all over Russia that she has no signed releases from the girls nor do any supporting agencies as they are just photos from local photographers of their models.Elena Petrova is a scam.She is closely alligned with www.agencyscams.com whom is run by Alexey Ivanov who calls himself only "Jim" as Alexey is a convicted hacker from St. Petersburg. The FBI arrested him up for blackmailing many large corporations.She is also closely alligned with Spencer Forrest of www.rwguide.com who is currently being sued by www.firstdream.com in texas for libeling that company as well just like Elena Petrova does from her little island in Australia.

Mike

U.S.A.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Where are you Elena? It's Time To Take Your Punishment

AUTHOR: Nonsupporter - (South Africa)

It has been eight (8) years now since this report was filed and commented on and I find it very funny that:

A.  Elena is no where around to post her rebuttals and/or answer the challenge that has been given
B..  The commentators who were "participants" are not commenting especially on this challenge given to Elena
C.  I believe that they have now ended up in divorce, disease or in their graves after posting their comments about Elena Petrova

It's good to know that Justice has a way of punishing people over time.  Time will bring its own judgment and its own great punishment on the heads of those who deserve it.  No wonder we are not hearing from these clowns again because time treated them to a defeat of their very own words that they seemingly never could recover from.  Thank goodness that the scales of Justice always, always, always will be evened out by time
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#3 Consumer Comment

The Elena Petrova Challenge The Challenge To Elena Petrova

AUTHOR: This Is The Truth - (USA)

I hereby challenge Elena Petrova to come out of hiding after her many years of first commenting on this report and challenge me in debating Right Here on the ROR....

about one of her ongoing scams...

...The Prejudice Scam.

..Let's see how much woman you really are in being able to disprove the fact that your site is full of this scam!

..Let's also see if you will indeed take up my challenge..

...Or keep hiding in the shadows of darkness?...

..where your shadowy self rightfully belongs!
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#4 Consumer Comment

Lying Witch Elena Petrova Answer the Charges of Bias!

AUTHOR: Here They Are - (Australia)

Yes Elena Petrova answer the charges of racial discrimination and prejudice that is clearly demonstrated from your site or will you continue to cleverly hide your deceptive practices about your racialistic viewpoints and ideologies perpetrated by your site!

Prejudiced indeed you are!  The silent ones always are it seems hiding behind the shadows of their seductive ways of prejudice and racial bias!
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#5 Consumer Comment

Elena Petrova The Racist Finally Speaks: Long Live the RipoffReport for Exposing her and Elena's Models

AUTHOR: The Truth Is Here - (USA)

I thought this racist called Elena Petrova was on silent mode-However no matter what she says there is one thing that cannot be disproven and that is that she is clearly a racist

A fact that cannot be disproven and actually a true witness of the character of the individual

This racist needs to speak up-but even if she speaks up she will continue to be highlighted as a racist because change is unfamiliar territory to this racist named Elena Petrova who has practiced her evils and wickedness for many years

Long Live the Ripoff Report for exposing the evils of her many, many ways!

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#6 Consumer Comment

Elena Petrova needs to Get a Clue that these Reports are Not Coming Down

AUTHOR: TheRealTruthTeller - (USA)

Well, Well, Well-Elena Petrova needs to understand that these reports are not coming down

I am absolutely amazed by the way Elena Petrova speaks actually speaks of herself in the third person and so what does that tell you1

Her site that has hurt a lot of individuals needs to be spoken of.  She needs to get a clue that she will be exposed.  Darkness always gets exposed by the light and tries to run away from it!

There are lots of other reports about Elena Petrova especially ones involving inequality

I wonder if the Elena Petrova who likes to talk boastfully of herself in the third person will actually deal with those issues and disprove them

I guarantee not with the well researched comments that have been posted will she be able to disprove them-I assure you of that!
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No one will ever talk about the real scam-the ethnic scam against other races!

The site should be called Elena Models Racism
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#8 Consumer Comment

Satisfied Customer

AUTHOR: Gene Ballard - (United States of America)

Hi, I registered here on RipoffReport with all my contact info... so please feel free to call, write, or email...

I was skeptical of elenasmodels when I first saw the website... but I can honestly say that I have met two of the most wonderful Russian women on this site... we have had great Skype webcam conversations and I'm look forward to visiting one of them soon.

I have profiles and other sites where I have meet real Russian women, but I think, elenasmodels has much less problem wit Scammers than any other Russian dating site.

I also feel the sites payment and credit system is very fair...

Thanks elenasmodels for a great service!

Best,

Gene Ballard
Destin Florida
850-424-8422
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#9 Consumer Comment

Satisfied Customer

AUTHOR: Gene Ballard - (United States of America)

Hi, I registered here on RipoffReport with all my contact info... so please feel free to call, write, or email...

I was skeptical of elenasmodels when I first saw the website... but I can honestly say that I have met two of the most wonderful Russian women on this site... we have had great Skype webcam conversations and I'm look forward to visiting one of them soon.

I have profiles and other sites where I have meet real Russian women, but I think, elenasmodels has much less problem wit Scammers than any other Russian dating site.

I also feel the sites payment and credit system is very fair...

Thanks elenasmodels for a great service!

Best,

Gene Ballard
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#10 Consumer Comment

JimsLists is Fishy

AUTHOR: Dave - (United States of America)

Whether or not Elena's Models is a scam I can't say. I've never looked at the site. However, I do think JimsLists is rather fishy. Of the thousands of Russian dating sites on his lists, only 10-15 are not scams? Strangely, these are the same sites that advertise on his pages (Elena's being the most prominent).

He doesn't offer any more evidence to back up his claims any more than the original poster here did. So he says he has some emails someone sent him about Site A or Site B paying their girls to chat or scamming some dude somehow. How do I know he didn't make them up? There are no copies or transcripts. No screen shots.

Also, he's very contradictory. He says it is a fact(!) that certain Russian dating sites are scams, and then elsewhere he'll say there are no facts on his site, that it's all his opinion (in the disclaimer at the very, very bottom). Whatever dude.

Personally, I think he is affiliated with elenasmodels.
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#11 Consumer Comment

LONG LIVE Elena's Models

AUTHOR: Cliff - (U.S.A.)

Mike from Dallas has lodged strong accusations against the honesty and integrity of Elena's Models, an internet dating agency which, to my standards and those of thousands of honest, reputable, successful, intelligent men around the world, is the best of all time at what it does, namely, give men the opportunity to write letters to thousands of woman from Eastern Europe and allow the women to choose to whom they wish to respond.  What Mike's real grievance is, I can only guess: he possibly was rejected by hundreds of women, in person and on Elena's MODELS.   One other distinct possiblity is that Mike from Dallas does not exist at all, but is the pseudonym of a rival of Elena's Models.

I have used Elena's Models for several years with great success, and I had much fun in the process.  Did I marry every lady who I wrote to?  Of course not, but why would any SANE person have such an unrealistic expectation?

Elena's Models is a business; should Mike expect to go on a site that Elena owns and operates and criticize her.  To me and other successful business people, no, he should not.   Does ELENA post slanderous information about other websites in her forum?   If the information that Elena printed were untrue, then she would have been sued successfully long ago.   Mike's contentions are  without proof.   Mike seems to think that an internet dating site is supposed to run according to his sophomoric standards.

Nobody ever solicited me on Elena's MODELS and I have met some of the ladies in person, too.  THE women were as nice, intelligent, and attractive in 'real life' as they were in their photos.  The ladies had class, too, which is something that a lot of people are lacking. 

Mike makes a claim that www.agencyscams.com is run by Alexey Ivanov, who calls himself 'Jim.'  How does he substantiate his accusation?  He just gave his opinion and did not provide proof.  I do not know anything about agencyscams.com, Alexey, or Jim, but I know that in all of my time on Elena's Models, I have never resorted to agencyscams.com and I have never been apprised of an alliance between it and Elena's MODELS.    I would like to see the arrest record of Alexey Ivanov; if the FBI arrested him, as MIKE claims, then is he implying that Alexey is a United States citizen or that Alexey committed his crimes in the United States? 

Regarding first dream, I did not like the website, but that is only my personal opinion and that of my friends.  I prefer Elena's Models.  

 

 

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#12 Consumer Comment

Maybe - Maybe not but I do not trust Jim's List

AUTHOR: Jesper - (Denmark)

Whether Elena's Models and her affiliates are scams or not I have no clue about as I am not using any of these agencies, but since the eprson behind the so called Jim's List is mentioned I feel I have to add a comment.

Because when it comes to Jim's List I have absolutely no confidence that this site is acting in a proper way, because I have been using some of the agencies that is facing some of the hardest critics at his list, and I can under no circumstance see that he is right in his critics.

I have met with several woman from as well Russia and Ukraine through two websites and except from one woman, who also now is deleted from the website, all the women were real and only on insignificent topics varied from their description in their profile.

That it so far not has resulted in a marriage for me has nothing to do with the agency as there could be a lot of reasons why a date ends without a result, but I have absolutely nothing to complain about regarding the services of these agencies as they in as many situations.

Another reason why I do not trust this list is because I have also used an agency placed on his so called White List, saying this should be a good and trustful agency, and that is something I cannot recognize too, because when I used this site, it was impossible to get replies from them via e-mail, hard to get through to them via the phone and in general they were not helpful at all.

My last suspicion about that Jim's List is belonging on the bad side is that I have also tried to report a scam through his site and absolutely nothing happened.
So I would say this site is, not necessarily a scam, but definitely suspicious and if Elena's Models and affiliates have connections with this site I would say they are suspicious too.

I will continue my search at the sites named "hotrussianbrides" and "behappy2day" as i feel these sites actually do something for their customers.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Elena's Models is even worse now

AUTHOR: Marcus - (Belgium)

I am one very unhappy customer! I researched the company only after I got ripped-off of by Elena's Models, I paid the money because the site looked good and there were a lot of women on the site. I think that Elena started good in 1999 but then it just became a "Russian Bride Money Generating Machine" for her so she just relaxed and continued with her misleading tactics, I read info on her I could find on Google and she is like NLP Master now and Expert on EVERYTHING starting from dating, business, self improvement, investments all the western latest trends - you name it and she is an expert, oh, and she is a Master of Philosophy on top of that.

Nevertheless the way she runs the site is appalling! Now the site is full of bugs and glitches, I do not know what is going on with them, it was fine but about 2-3 months ago it started getting really bad.

I paid money and then one day my profile all of sudden got replaced with a FEMALE profile template!!!! Honestly! My entire info and contact list was gone, my name and photo replaced with female info! I couldn't believe it.

Called their Australian office couple of weeks ago, got a chick on the phone who barely spoke any English, like she I mean Elena could at least hire a person with good English, and that customer service girl had NO CLUE what to do, she confirmed the fact that there seemed to be a problem, but no idea as to what to do. The women I corresponded with disappeared and some profiles I remember by ID number were affected as well.

I am outta there.

The site is just a rip-off now, no value for money. They did better before, but now customer service sucks and on top of that the site interface and back end is unreliable.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Elenas Models is a real company

AUTHOR: Not Affiliated - (Australia)

I am not affiliated with the company Elenas Models and their owner Elena Petrova. All I can say I have been to their office in Robina and met Elena in person and she is a very nice lady and very helpful and really cares about her clients. I phoned and arranged for a meeting and the ladies in the office were also very nice and very helpful.
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#15 Consumer Comment

the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

AUTHOR: Not Ripped Off Customer - (Belgium)

First I want to say that I have nothing whatsoever to do with dating agencies, anti scam websites, i am just an ordinary joe trying his luck.

My personal experience is the following:

In march 2007 I signed up for Elenasmodels.com, the attacked agency. First thing I did was the request of 2 phonenumbers of woman from the site, just to check they were real. All answered the phone, girl answering and with both I talked about 30 minutes, asking all kinds of questions. For me these were genuine existing girls, not paid answering 'machines'.

Now the better part: I have corresponded with many different girls from the site, about 10. Four girls I have met in reality. Two in Kiev, one in Simferopol and one in Minsk. With the girl of Simferopol I have had a 7 month relationship, with the one in Minsk I am going to marry soon ( in about 3 weeks). I can only say 100% of correspondence I have had which I followed up by REAL visits, came out for me in REALITY. So the site is real, the girls are real.

Of course relationships not all work out, one girl was not really so interested in me I suppose, but more in dinner dating but ok, what do you expect from a guy 42 y of age dating a girl of 22. That is all in the game folks.

I can personally contest and prove with photos to anyone that the site is genuine and that the accuser is a loser, he is a competitor on jims blacklist for sure.

Dont believe him. I only write this because i feel this website genuinely helped me find my destiny, and i cannot see good things besmeared by rotten individuals.

Write me, I am open for all questions.

I am a user of this website, not affiliated with it at all, I not know her or Jim at all
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the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

AUTHOR: Not Ripped Off Customer - (Belgium)

First I want to say that I have nothing whatsoever to do with dating agencies, anti scam websites, i am just an ordinary joe trying his luck.

My personal experience is the following:

In march 2007 I signed up for Elenasmodels.com, the attacked agency. First thing I did was the request of 2 phonenumbers of woman from the site, just to check they were real. All answered the phone, girl answering and with both I talked about 30 minutes, asking all kinds of questions. For me these were genuine existing girls, not paid answering 'machines'.

Now the better part: I have corresponded with many different girls from the site, about 10. Four girls I have met in reality. Two in Kiev, one in Simferopol and one in Minsk. With the girl of Simferopol I have had a 7 month relationship, with the one in Minsk I am going to marry soon ( in about 3 weeks). I can only say 100% of correspondence I have had which I followed up by REAL visits, came out for me in REALITY. So the site is real, the girls are real.

Of course relationships not all work out, one girl was not really so interested in me I suppose, but more in dinner dating but ok, what do you expect from a guy 42 y of age dating a girl of 22. That is all in the game folks.

I can personally contest and prove with photos to anyone that the site is genuine and that the accuser is a loser, he is a competitor on jims blacklist for sure.

Dont believe him. I only write this because i feel this website genuinely helped me find my destiny, and i cannot see good things besmeared by rotten individuals.

Write me, I am open for all questions.

I am a user of this website, not affiliated with it at all, I not know her or Jim at all
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the person filing complaint is WRONG and 100% LIAR

AUTHOR: Not Ripped Off Customer - (Belgium)

First I want to say that I have nothing whatsoever to do with dating agencies, anti scam websites, i am just an ordinary joe trying his luck.

My personal experience is the following:

In march 2007 I signed up for Elenasmodels.com, the attacked agency. First thing I did was the request of 2 phonenumbers of woman from the site, just to check they were real. All answered the phone, girl answering and with both I talked about 30 minutes, asking all kinds of questions. For me these were genuine existing girls, not paid answering 'machines'.

Now the better part: I have corresponded with many different girls from the site, about 10. Four girls I have met in reality. Two in Kiev, one in Simferopol and one in Minsk. With the girl of Simferopol I have had a 7 month relationship, with the one in Minsk I am going to marry soon ( in about 3 weeks). I can only say 100% of correspondence I have had which I followed up by REAL visits, came out for me in REALITY. So the site is real, the girls are real.

Of course relationships not all work out, one girl was not really so interested in me I suppose, but more in dinner dating but ok, what do you expect from a guy 42 y of age dating a girl of 22. That is all in the game folks.

I can personally contest and prove with photos to anyone that the site is genuine and that the accuser is a loser, he is a competitor on jims blacklist for sure.

Dont believe him. I only write this because i feel this website genuinely helped me find my destiny, and i cannot see good things besmeared by rotten individuals.

Write me, I am open for all questions.

I am a user of this website, not affiliated with it at all, I not know her or Jim at all
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#18 UPDATE Employee

Re: Joe

AUTHOR: Agencyscams.net - (Canada)

Hello Joe,
Well, I agree with that very, very hard to find somebody through online Russian/Ukraine dating websites.
I am telling that every user of my website agencyscams.net I never advertise any agency on my website!
However, my point is that such people like Jim with his agencyscams.com and jimslists.com scam American people telling that every big agency is big scam and the only agency in world that has protection against scammers is ElenasModels.com and all her affiliates.
This is such a lie!!!!
I have lots of complaints about both these guys. ElenasModels doesn't even check the profiles of her Ukraine girls.
This is dangerous scam.
Sincerely,
Andrew, AgencyScams.net
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#19 Consumer Comment

WHY DON'T YOU GO OUT WITH AMERICAN WOMEN AND AVOID ALL THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE UKRAINE IS ONE OF THE INTERNET FRAUD CAPITALS OF THE WORLD RANKING SOMEWHERE SLIGHTLY BEHIND NIGERIA.

SO ANYBODY WHO DEALS ONLINE ONLY WITH ANY PLACE IN THE UKRAINE IS A FOOL.

AM I SAYING THAT THE GOOD FORMER COMMUNIST COMRADES ARE RUNNING A CROOKED OPERATION ?

NO I AM NOT.

AM I IMPLYING THAT THE RUSSIAN MAFIA IS BEHIND SOME OF THIS?

NO I AM NOT DOING THAT EITHER.

I AM SAYING THAT AMERICAN MEN HAD BETTER DATE ONLY AMERICAN WOMEN OR THEY RISK GETTING INTO A SITUATION THEY WILL WISH LIKE HELL THEY HAD NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT.

I AM SURE THESE PEOPLE MEAN WELL BUT THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.

JUST SAY NO TO THE GOOD COMRADES AND BE PATRIOTIC AND DATE AMERICAN!

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT RUSKE BABE ISN'T A SPY OR SOMETHING, ANYWAY?

STAY HOME AND LET FRIENDS AND FAMILY SET YOU UP- WITH SOMEBODY AND SAVE MONEY.
MAYBE YOUR LIFE.
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#20 UPDATE Employee

I and HUNDREDS of People Wants to SUE Mr Jim for Defamation and HIS RIP off BUSINESS

AUTHOR: Agencyscams.net - (Canada)

ATTENTION: THIS CONSUMER SUGGESTION REPORT WAS MADE BY THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN ONLINE DATING INDUSTRY, HIS NICK NAME IS MR. JIM
MR. JIM and his websites, agencyscams and jimslists are his tools to kill the reputation of well known agencies which refuse to pay him money.
I am the owner of agencyscams.net the website which was created to make justice in online dating industry and to fight against such scammers like Jim.
I have a lots of complaints from other agencies (hundreds of them) who confirm that Mr. Jim demanded money from them. HE threatened them that he will destroy their reputation if they will not pay.
I AM THE GUY WHO LOST MY BUSINESS BECAUSE OF HIM, AND I WILL DO MY BEST TO MEET MR. JIM IN COURT. IT IS MY GOAL.
Today, I am doing different kind of business anyways, and I don't have such great amount of time like professional scammer do. But still I will eventually will find out his real name and address, and then I will call my lawyer.
Right now I am trying to attack his hosting people from Internet Idea Inc and ask them to remove his spam websites.
I have no connection with Dream-Marriage Inc; however, I can confirm that this agency is fighting against Mr.Jim scam.
I NEVER, ever ADVERTISE ANY DATING AGENCY in my life using my website AgencyScams.net
All the agencies on my Platinum List is just the people who support me fighting against Mr. Jim and all other scammers.
HOWEVER, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT MR JIM'S SPAM WEBSITES WHICH ALL ADVERTISE ELENASMODELS AND HER AFFILIATES. Finally, this guy is telling to his users go and find their dream on ElenasModels sites where he will get 50% of what you will spend there.
If you don't believe me, please just subscribe to his website you will get this spam promotions.
It's sad and terrible that these people like Jim would try to steal money and make individuals look like fools the way they do but they do. I highly recommend you stay away from these sites and the girls' who are on them. As one customer found out, you're probably not even talking to girls,' but the sleezeballs that work for ElenasModels. You are certainly not talking to the girls who are in the pictures because they are all lifted from local photographers.

PEOPLE TOGETHER WE WILL STOP THIS CRIMINAL !!!
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE CONTACT ME, I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

This is Jim from agencyscams.com

AUTHOR: Agencyscams.com - (U.S.A.)

There will always be people that are happy with certain agencies and unhappy with the same agencies. This will never change. Guys find partners at scam agencies and other guys have bad experiences at good agencies. It is always funny how the guys who say they were scammed at a good agency never have the proof.

But this post is about Andrew at agencyscams.net.

agencyscams.net is owned by dream-marriage.com. A competitor of elenasmodels.com. So, you can see why he is attacking her. Problem is, he has no clue what he is talking about. His lies are large and need to be large to make you believe.

dream-marriage.com and I are in a fight at the moment. I can tell you that the name Andrew is fake. The 2 owners of dream-marriage.com (who made agencyscams.NET and stole all my text and photos) are...

Ishah Bashal
Anton Derber

They are based out of California.

(If they can post Elena's full name, I can post theirs, correct?)

They either bought or stole anastasia-international.com's scam model and do it the exact same way. They even have the same affiliate program and made a fake anti-scam site with a name similar to mine to discredit me. All the same things that anastasia-international.com does.

In closing, good and bad reports about all agencies will come up. I have hundreds of letters from guys that were scammed at dream-marriage.com. So, when you see agencyscams.NET here, posting lies, you should know the truth.
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#22 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I confirm: Elena Petrova and her ElenasModels are the Biggest Scams in Online Dating Industry.

AUTHOR: Agencyscams.net - (Canada)

Hello,
My name is Andrew and I am the owner of agencyscams.
First of all, I want to confirm everything what Mike from Texas said, and I want to add some comments and deatails.
Elena Petrova developed the network of scam websites which she uses to rip off people. This network is not just a couple of websites.
Look at this list: www.elenasmodels.com, www.womenrussia.com, www.antiscam.net, www.jimslists.com, www.agencyscams.com, http://elenasmodels.ws, www.marriagedream.com, http://www.loveme.com, http://www.heleneinternational.com/, http://kievconnections.com/ and so on. Every day their number increases.
All these sites are made to promote the main website www.elenasmodels.com and discriminate the competitors.
Please, believe me that for all the thing she did to discriminate all other agency there numerous complaints and actual legal investigations against her and her main scammer "JIM" which you can request from FBI.
Her "Licenced" agency has no real adress, believe please competitors are dying to see her personaly.
By the way, in her rebuttal, she said that her friend JIM is real canadian and he tells only the truth. BUT HOW SHE GONA EXPLAIN THAT HE HAS THE SAME KIND "RUSSIAN" ENGLISH LIKE I HAVE????
Please, give me a brake, just read his first page.

I believe that:
The agency elenasmodels.com (russianwoman.com) is the WORST RIP OFF IN THE DATING WORLD.
Avoid her as all costs as she rips off the clients without any mercy and does not give them a second chance.

Fake letters, Fake profiles she is using it all!!!!!!!!!!!

But the worst part is that she is Jimslists.com herself!!!!!!

What a scammer!!!!!!! Report her to all sites and write about her scam all over the internet!!!!!!

Please do yourself a favour and run from her and submit Jislists.com and www.elenasmodels.com to every scam website you can find!!!!!!

Beware, she is creating scam websites like a crazy, she has the spam marketing team who is trying to convince you to trust them. DON't believe.
If you need prove, I will be glad to provide it to you.
Sincerely,
Andrew, agencyscams
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#23 Consumer Comment

Jay does not know what he is talking about

AUTHOR: Gerry - (U.S.A.)

I am a client of Elena Petrova, and through her web site Elenasmodels.com, met the woman who is now my wife. I met my wife through Elena's web site in Sept., 2006, and we married Nov. 2008. Elena's web site is real, the women represented on it are real, and the relationships than can happen are real. I am living proof of it and can prove it to Jay, or anyone else who would like for me to prove it.
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#24 Consumer Comment

Elena Soloman (Petrova)

AUTHOR: Capeman - (Australia)

Mike's Elena Petrova, that he is so rude about, according to him lives in both Australia and the Ukraine. I have been helped by Elena Soloman (Petrova) and she lived in South Africa with her South African husband and kids then. Before taking Mikes story at face value or even printing it perhaps you should have contacted Elena.

shalom, Capeman
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#25 Consumer Comment

Wrong info on Elena Petrova

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hypochrite, Thats what I think. Someone obviously didn't get something there way and they lash out like this. More time should have been taken in research before posting such incorrect and angry thoughts.

I personally used Elena's site to find a wife with great satisfaction. Every question or dilemna I had was addressed by her or her staff. To this day, if I have a friend pursuing this avenue, She will still help. I was never over charged or asked for any extra fees. I never saw one thing that would indicate fraud. What I was promised, I received.

Yes she has several offices around Russia. Before one makes such derrogatory statements about what one sees at a location, they should spend some time within its borders. Russians are a very different type of people. I should know, as I have been married to one for 3 years. Control of whom is there can be a difficult thing there. And yes a prostitute may hang there in order to pick up business. Think about it, where better than where the men go.

Of course she will pump up her own business just like in America. As for slamming other businesses, again just like in America with all of its slanderous tv commercials.
Point is,Elena made this foriegn bride thing what it is. It is her bread and butter and reputation. Why would she try to ruin her own business. In fact, there was a story a while back in the consulate news about her help in busting a large "ripoff ring out of Moscow. Why get in the light if the finger can be point back at her?

I think she is very upstanding.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Comment as to report

AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)

Hello,

I have just stumbled across this site and this report.

As a competitor of this Elena's Model I am familiar with this marriage agency. Their are not a lot of really good agencies in this industry but this is one of them. Elena's deals with a lot of smaller agencies throughout the
former Soviet Union and as such their will always be some women who do not have the best intentions. It's going to happen with all agencies. To my knowledge every bad woman ever identified has been removed from her agency, many even being shown on her own scammers link.
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#27 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Why This Report Is False and Misleading

AUTHOR: Elena - (Australia)

This report is a blend of ungrounded accusations and criminal fiction: prostitutes, convicted hackers, blackmailing, FBI, arrests, and so on.

In fact, there are two carbon copy reports on this site posted by this person, and signed by different names.

I would understand if the report said, I purchased that service, and didn't get what I was promised, and I asked my money back and didn't get it. But this report is not like this. It simply throws a pile of dirt in the hopes that something will stick.

It is full of contradictions and false statements: hides in Australia runs her office from a prostitute-ridden hotel in Kiev, a convicted hacker arrested by FBI somehow manages to run a website, etc.

- Jim, the owner if agencyscams.com, is not a convicted hacker Alexey Ivanov. He is a real person, unlike the author of this report. He is a Canadian living in Russia.

- Elena's Models office in Ukraine is situated in one of the most expensive hotels in Kiev in the historical center of the city: Hotel Impressa http://www.impressa.com.ua. It has good security and no prostitutes.

- First Dream is a regular advertiser of www.rwguide.com. So, either its owner changed his mind about Spencer Forrest, or the lawsuit mentioned in the report never went ahead.

- Elena's Models is a legitimate LICENSED business and not a scam. We are in business since 1999, and have 60,000+ clients in 167 countries, and full-time offices in 5 countries.

- Elena's Models comply with all relevant regulations and we are the only large Russian dating site that offers 3-day cooling-off period to its customers, during which the client can ask for a refund no matter what. We have 90-day refund policy and we always refund customers if they are unhappy with the service. Many of them come back and re-sign up with us, and buy even a more expensive package.

- Men and women register themselves on our site, and can change any of their information at any time. They all sign an Agreement when register. We check all submitted profiles before publication. Many women register through our offices in Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria and Romania, and we know them personally.

Yes, we may have some individuals who try to misuse our service, just like any dating site has. But we do not tolerate them on our site. We hunt them down and remove them immediately.

Yes, Elena Petrova is the owner of both www.womenrussia.com and www.elenasmodels.com. She doesn't hide it. To the contrary, she clearly says so on her sites, http://www.womenrussia.com/who.htm and http://www.elenasmodels.com/about .

Elena is the author of several books, including the famous "Anti-Scam Guide", and she was recognized as the world-leading authority on dating scams by The New Criminologist. Interviews with Elena appeared in numerous publications and TV programs around the globe: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Finland, Spain, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, South Africa, New Zealand, and the list goes on.

Elena Petrova is not a scammer, she doesn't commit fraud, and she doesn't defame other people and agencies, unlike the author of this report.

Elena's Models has one of the best reputations in the Russian dating industry, and is recommended by many consumer protection sites.

Please visit our site www.elenasmodels.com and see for yourself.
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#28 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This Report Is Posted By A Competitor

AUTHOR: Elena - (Australia)

Hello, my name is Elena Petrova. I recently was informed about the report on this site, which mentions my name and the name of my agency.

I oppose this report and I am surprised it was allowed to be posted, in the first turn. It appears like no one read it before allowing it to be broadcast to the whole Internet.

There are no facts and no supporting evidence in this report, only ungrounded accusations. It is pure libel and defamation.

Elena's Models www.elenasmodels.com is a legitimate business and NOT a scam.

We are a LICENSED introduction agency (Registered Introduction Agent License #3008169 of Queensland, Australia) and we have a good record with the Office of Fair Trading (www.fairtrading.qld.gov.au), which looks after the licensed businesses in our state. You are welcome to check our records with them.

We have dozens of testimonials from former clients, with photos of the couples that met through our agency, on our website www.elenasmodels.com. We know these couples and can bring you in contact with them, if you would like to.

This report does not list any facts, only ungrounded accusations.

I immediately recognized the wording of this report as there were dozens of copies of the same message posted all over the Internet in 2004, by an owner of a competing agency. (I do not include his name or the name of his agency here, but I can provide it on request.)

The reason for his postings was that there was a negative message about his agency on my website, posted by a user of his service. The person who posted the report detailed his account with his agency, which was negative.

Since the same message was posted on multiple message boards, I learned about them quickly and the owners of the dating-related message boards were the ones who contacted me with the name of the competitor responsible for the postings, this is how I know who he is.

I removed the comment about his agency from my website (although there was enough evidence to back it up and the poster was happy to stand by his post), and the online libel campaign against myself immediately stopped.

I would like to see the poster of this report to stand by his post and provide FACTS instead of ungrounded accusations.

I am also busy hiring an American attorney to proceed with a defamation case against this person and the publishers supporting him.

I request this report to be removed from this website.

Regards,
Elena Petrova
http://www.elenasmodels.com
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