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  • Submitted: Tue, December 27, 2011
  • Updated: Thu, January 17, 2013

  • Reported By: Munecita — Cabot Arkansas United States of America
Full Sail University
Winter Park, Florida United States of America

Full Sail University Fullsail.com Full Sail Rip Off Winter Park, Florida

*Consumer Comment: Also...

*Consumer Comment: Your lack of intelligence is insulting Emmalynn

*Consumer Comment: Oh Holloway, you can't be serious!

*Consumer Comment: Full Sail "Scam"

*Consumer Comment: Wow. Your stupidity amazes me.

*Consumer Comment: Dear e Haloway

*General Comment: Sorry, but...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I find this funny.

*Consumer Comment: I was ripped off too, I would like to talk to you mam and see what we can do

*Consumer Comment: Not a problem with Full Sail, but with you.

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This year my 20 year old son participated in online classes at Full Sail University. He began classes over the summer of 2011. Upon registering him in an accredited music school where I also attended, I learned that Full Sail had taken all of his Direct Student Loans and pell grant for the entire 2011-2012 budget.
 
In an attempt to resolve the issue, after literally weeks on the phone, I was asked to send over the information surrounding the circumstances. The information I sent over got me nowhere. Today, I contacted the Better Business Bureau to add myself to the 22 complaints previously filed against the school.as well as the ombudsman group for the Department of Higher Ed. I have spent several hours on the phone trying to stop Direct Loans form disbursing any Additional funds to this school.
 
As it stands now, my son has no financial aid for the upcoming 2012 spring semester because Full Sail took it two months before the spring semester begins. I would advise anyone looking to attend Full Sail to be very careful when reading their policies prior to admissions to make sure this does not happen to you or your child. Please note that I never signed any financial aid documents to the department of financial aid at Full Sail which would allow them to apply pell grant money for my dependent son into escrow at their institution. Having the monies in their account allows them to draw interest my son's student loan money if they chose, while my continues to accrue interest.
 
I will say one thing positive about what I have learned from one of their graduates however. A couple of months ago, one of my students to me to a local club to talk with his cousin who recently graduated from Full Sail. Although he was not working in his field through job placement assistance from the university, he did make me one h**l of a hamburger!!!!!

When considering this school you should look at their own website.....http://fullsailuniversityreviews.blogspot.com/   why would any school find it necessary to put on their own website.."Is Full Sail University a scam" if they did not have such a bad reputation. Good thing I know the owner of that club my friend took me to. Thanks to Full Sail University my son just may end up needing a burger flipping job to pay back the student loan money they took from him.
 
Standard practices for accredited universities take the 2012 pell grant and student loan disbursements in 2012. Make sure to contact, Fafsa, Direct Loans, the Ombudsmen group at 877-557-2575 and the U.S Department of Institutional Compliance 404-974-9303 if you feel like you have been misled or fraudulently been taken advantage by any institution of higher education. These people must be stopped from ending our kids college dreams!!!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/27/2011 06:30 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Full-Sail-University/Winter-Park-Florida-/Full-Sail-University-Fullsailcom-Full-Sail-Rip-Off-Winter-Park-Florida-814549. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Also...

AUTHOR: e_h - (United States of America)

Idiot the school used to be in cincinatti, ohio until it moved.  It moved because it's a year round school.  There is no off time there.  They made partnerships with Disney and Universal Studios so of course the school would move to florida, RIGHT BY THOSE PLACES.  God you are seriously stupid.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Your lack of intelligence is insulting Emmalynn

AUTHOR: e_h - (United States of America)

My "Devry" education got me a job at Warner Bros. Entertainment, one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world.  What I meant by "not everyone is cut out for the school" is that it's a really hard institution to excel in.  It's 4 years of school crammed into 2 years.  I went to class 5 days a week for 8 hours a day, then had at least 8 to 10 hours of work outside of class in open labs the rest of the time, every day.  

It's not cut out for lazy people, or someone who isn't determined.  You can't just go to school there and party constantly and do normal stuff like regular colleges and universities can.  I attended the school for game art, which Full Sail is one of the top 3 schools in the nation that offer that type of degree.  The school is a university as well, it's been recognized as an institution of higher education.  

Another fact that will blow your mind was that last year the job placement rate for the game art degree program was 93%.  Why?  Because that's one part of full sail where the professors care and push you to your limits in order to become a great artist.  So instead of attacking me left and right why don't you actually have an intelligent conversation with me that contains facts to back your claims.  Learn to spell my name as well.  I've only posted it 3 times on here.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Oh Holloway, you can't be serious!

AUTHOR: Emmalynn B - (United States of America)

Most people are not "cut out" for Full Sail? Don't make me laugh. EVERYONE is cut out for Full Sail. Tell me, how hard were your entrance exams? What did you have to submit for acceptance other than Financial Aid for an overpriced, unaccredited school? Face it, you and all the others that attend there either couldn't get into a real university or hack it there if you did. Enjoy your $75,000 DeVry education.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Full Sail "Scam"

AUTHOR: Israel - (United States of America)

First, I attend Full Sail University and have every confidence in my 3rd year that what i'm being taught is the latest and best possible information for the entertainment industry. Then, I would like to address the graduate that decided to hash the person putting in his opinion-you are very unprofessional in your rebuttal and it wreaks of hubris. I'm glad you managed to get a job in your field, good for you, but that doesn't help the other 50%+ that may end up flipping hamburgers-something your great intelligence seemed to overlook. You should be addressing this positively, state your opinion and get off. 

Look at what she is saying here-"I learned that Full Sail had taken all of his Direct Student Loans and pell grant for the entire 2011-2012 budget". She also say's to read Full Sail's policy on how they take your student loans (if you want to go somewhere else). It's obvious there policy is to take the entire year (correct me if I'm wrong-professionally this time and with the courtesy taught at Full Sail). She is warning people to read the policy. Many people will flip burgers after a college degree, a degree does not gaurantee any job placement, that's up to the initiative and creativity of the person taking the degree, not the school, even though Full Sail does help with that as well. 

This also has nothing to do with credit problems, they simply wanted to change Universities. I also want to mention that this probably maps across to other online colleges as well. 

If anything should be mentioned, it would be that Full Sail probably has over 18,000 online students-do the math... my calculator says that 18,000 x an ave 54,000 for the two years is $972,000,000-that's big money. They try very hard to make things work for everyone, you can't always get a good instructor, some have different attitudes, I've even run into what I would coin as a prejudice against white people, but overall I have learned an incredible amount of information relating directly to the Entertainment industry. I am proud to go to this school, but I would say that everyone has to check out the degree wherever you go to see if it fits your mental capabilities and your pocketbook, as there are now gaps in the budget that were not there when I first attended the school. Alumni abound in the marketplace and are commonly referenced in their positions at major studios having contributed to some of the top movies (if not most) and music, as well as the gaming industry. 

I am not one of Full Sail's employees, I have given them H over what I would consider inaccurate grading of my work and the time zone difference of 3 hours for the West Coast, which makes a difference on deadlines for turning in work, but everytime an instructor or FSO support or student services has helped me out with these issues.

If you want to become an Attorney, don't go to Full Sail, if you want to go into computer graphics, or Internet Marketing, or any of the degrees offered, Full Sail is great-but figure out what you want to do and research it before you attend, that way you won't have to back out.

Go in realizing that now you will probably have to come up with an additional $15,000 (cash or private loan) to complete, they will try to work with you on this as long as your grades are up and you stay professional in attitude with them. Overall I highly recommend this school for what if offers ONLY. Use your head and research your field of interest on Indeed.com, your connections, etc. before you make the leap.

I hope this helps.  




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#5 Consumer Comment

Wow. Your stupidity amazes me.

AUTHOR: e_hollaway - (United States of America)

I find it very offensive that you would call me a liar and say I am some sort of "spy" for the school. It would have taken you literally 30 seconds to know I wasn't lying if you would have just googled my name, which I included at the bottom of my report. I was searching for an old article about the games program at full sail that I wanted to site for something when I came across this atrocity of a website. The title of your rebuttal tells me everything. "E_Haloway". My name is spelled out, I mean actually spelled out right in front of you, and you still mess it up. I'm dumbfounded. Plus if you really think I'm lying and I'm just some sort of review board poster for the school then why don't you visit my website- www.3dTrench.com It will tell you all about me and show your lazy eyes what i learned while at Full Sail. You lose. Accept your loss and move on.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Dear e Haloway

AUTHOR: Emmalynn B - (United States of America)

If you're so satisfied with your experience, then why are you on a complaints board? Besides being an obvious shill for the university (by the way, you guys did a number on Yelp but the truth comes out and Yelpers always know frauds, your accounts are easy to spot) who is putting in his glowing review, you attack other people on their credit or whatever you have presumed. Taking this a wee bit peronally, eh?

Telling people they have to pay tuition equal to that of NYU for a school that isn't even accredited screams scam and there are thousands of documented complaints.

For a school that in the "biz" why is in the middle of Florida? This joke of a school couldn't even make the coffee for a real school like NYU.
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#7 General Comment

Sorry, but...

AUTHOR: e_hollaway - (United States of America)

You were denied loans because of your credit.  The same thing happened to my old roommate down there when he was also going to classes and had to pay out of pocket.  You should have perhaps done a little more planning before you went ahead and attended.  This is clearly not Full Sail's fault.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I find this funny.

AUTHOR: e_hollaway - (United States of America)

Here's an interesting fact.  I graduated from Full Sail in March 2012, and had a job 1200 miles away less than 30 days later in my field.  How did I get this job?  Through career development. Which also tells me you know nothing about the school since you called it "placement assistance".  Don't patronize students when the point of your post is about financial aid, not job acquirement.  Oh and my financial aid went fine because I was PROACTIVE about it.  I can agree that the financial aid department can be difficult sometimes but in order to get things you have to do it yourself and not expect anyone to do it for you.  Full Sail is an amazing institution that gives the students the tools to become successful.  Too many people that go there expect the school to just give them everything and put them into a senior position upon graduation.  I find your lack of knowledge and your quest to "report" the school to these places downright disrespectful. I HATE reading things like this attacking Full Sail.  The best decision I ever made was to attend that school and graduate.  Most people aren't cut out for Full Sail so there inlays the problem as well.  Call financial aid, tell them your problem, and get them to fix it.  If you contact them either daily or at least a few times a week your problem will get solved.  So instead of wasting your time on ripoff report websites and sitting on the phone with the better business bureau, you could try and maybe contact the school.  If you put as much effort as you do reporting the school into taking steps to fix your problem, you never would have been here.

-Eric
Full Sail Grad
Happy
Has a job in his field
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#9 Consumer Comment

I was ripped off too, I would like to talk to you mam and see what we can do

AUTHOR: rank357 - (United States of America)

I applied for other loans when my fasfa loan process took 2 months longer than I predicted the school gave me more classes but didn't tell me that they were charging me out of pocket. when I got the fasfa loan secure Full Sail told me that I needed to apply for a personal loan to pay for the 2 months classes they gave me. i applied for loans but was denied all. I googled Full Sail scam and found another report from a student that did some research and found out that Wells Fargo and Sallie Mae have quit giving loans for Full Sail. I am deeply hurt. Also students reported graduating from Full Sail only to be denied jobs and told that their degrees are worthless. I completed 8 months of classes and am in great debt. I have looked for class action lawsuits againt Full Sail but cannot find any. I feel for your son mam. Please contact me.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Not a problem with Full Sail, but with you.

AUTHOR: ripoff@mylittlepwnies.com - (U.S.A.)

"I learned that Full Sail had taken all of his Direct Student Loans and pell grant for the entire 2011-2012 budget."

This is not Full Sail's problem.  It's yours and your son's.  You should have been budgeting your money, not blindly taking out loans and giving it to Full Sail.

"Please note that I never signed any financial aid documents to the department of financial aid at Full Sail which would allow them to apply pell grant money for my dependent son into escrow at their institution."
Yes you did.  Or he did.  It's an option in the contract.  You can opt out.

"Having the monies in their account allows them to draw interest my son's student loan money if they chose, while my continues to accrue interest."
Full Sail only takes the amount owed to them.  Depending on which option you chose when enrolling, they will take only that amount from the lender, or they will take the amount YOU specified and take only what is owed.  You can pick up the difference from the Business Office at any time.

"When considering this school you should look at their own website.....http://fullsailuniversityreviews.blogspot.com/   why would any school find it necessary to put on their own website.."Is Full Sail University a scam" if they did not have such a bad reputation."
That is not a part of the Full Sail website.  That is the personal blog of a woman named Nancy Ford (which has since been removed by her) who dropped out of Full Sail and was angry that she couldn't get a refund for the term she was in when she dropped out, (just like any other school, you can't get refunds after a certain deadline, even if you only did 10% of your classes), so she spammed every review site on the internet with complaints about Full Sail.

Your problem with Full Sail is yourself.  You and your son lacked the due diligence and personal responsibility to make sure the school was a good fit and to arrange finances appropriately.  The quality of Full Sail's education hands down and by far the best I've had out of all the schools, public and private, that I've attended.
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