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Complaint Review: Kenneth J Terry - Mary L Terry - Turtle Rock Equine Rescue Inc

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  • Submitted: Fri, September 17, 2004
  • Updated: Mon, October 08, 2012

  • Reported By:amherst New Mexico
Kenneth J Terry - Mary L Terry - Turtle Rock Equine Rescue Inc
Laurel Shore Drive, Fitzwilliam Nh Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire U.S.A.

Kenneth J And Mary L Terry D/b/a Turtle Rock Equine Rescue Inc business fraud, horse theft, theft by deception. Rip-off! Fitzwilliam New Hampshire

*Author of original report: turtle rock rescue laurel heights sanctuary

*Author of original report: updated information

*Author of original report: identity theft

*Consumer Comment: this is from a true animal welfare person

*Consumer Comment: New Hampshire State verterinarian only did 1/2 of his job

*Consumer Comment: latest sale item by turtle rock

*Consumer Comment: am not an ex empoyee - original poster

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Straight Facts

*Author of original report: wha wha wha mary, knowingly endangered the welfare of a 6 yr old child - sold them a pony that was too much for a kid with leaning disabiliites

*Consumer Comment: Get your facts straight

*Consumer Comment: from of one of your 'clients'

*Consumer Comment: wha wha wha kenneth, whois calling the kettle black

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You're WHACKED in the head!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You're WHACKED in the head!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You're WHACKED in the head!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You're WHACKED in the head!

*Author of original report: go ahead big man lets go back to court

*Consumer Comment: Oh its alive

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Where's the Beef?

*Consumer Comment: ken's buddy is out of practice

*Consumer Comment: 300K

*Author of original report: ken, you sued me in cheshire county because your wife baited me with e mails

*Author of original report: ken, you sued me in cheshire county because your wife baited me with e mails

*Consumer Comment: why travis was fired

*Consumer Comment: no one cares about your opinion

*Consumer Comment: no one cares about your opinion

*Consumer Comment: no one cares about your opinion

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I have now lost my mind?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I have now lost my mind?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I have now lost my mind?

*Author of original report: you are the one who has a criminal record not me - you are the one who is a horse thief not me, and you sell stolen donated property

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Why you me Travis

*Consumer Comment: to kenneth... the good pastor francis a payette and nancy l payette of hollis nh - have a large lawsuit agains them

*Author of original report: to ken and his buck tooth pickle queen mary

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I have now lost my mine?

*Consumer Comment: what about the other case

*UPDATE Employee: Ya Know Susan... Get on with you life and leave us alone.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Show the Docs.!

*Consumer Comment: Petsonally, I don't believe all of what you say..

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Reply to "K" from Rindge, get your facts Straight

*UPDATE Employee: 300K donation

*Consumer Comment: rebuttal to ken terry's comments

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: The Facts according to New Hampshire Court System!!!

*Consumer Comment: Some people don't write it off!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 300K donation

*Author of original report: additional information for sherri

*Consumer Comment: the rest of the story

*Consumer Comment: HORSES ARE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN

*UPDATE Employee: horses were removed via court order

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advertizes on internet & print certified by national organiazation - no credentials - used donated money (6,000) to go on a bender in las vegas - covered it up with 'cow rescue in montana' - signed a contract with a third party to board my horses - charged for service - changed times no of horses could be removed, amount owed (never got a bill) - paid lawyer to change a court ordered agreement - refused money.

He has a criminal record in arizona and wyoming (petty criminal in az , sexual assault in wyoming) - bounces checks - wife takes donated property ie hay grain and shavings to use in her other business grandviewequestrian llc in jaffrey (next town)- sold stolen clocks on e bay and purchased scuba equipment in name of rescue; castrated my stallion without anyone's knowledge consent or permission (allegedly did this before and insurance carrier dropped them so this is the last carrier that they have - farm/ag business) cannnot purchase hay and grain as checks bounce.

They conned someone into donating an indoor ring so when they go out of business in the spring the buildings will be theirs; wife being sued in mass as she is a comm of ma employee and used the e mail at detma.org to harass me in nh - have sent info to the irs in cincinnati, congressman bass office is involved; commissioner of agriculture and the local aniaml control - have 50yrs in horse business - did not not pay my board on my horses, did not abandon my animals, have reg papers in bank box, am licensed by state of nh to work on race track and own a race horse, and don't like this bunch one bit - they are nothing more than frauds and horse thieves - as they sell donated and stolen animals -

Susan
amherst, New Hampshire
U.S.A.

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#1 Author of original report

turtle rock rescue laurel heights sanctuary

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Mary terry opened up a new animal rescue at 39 Laurel Heights Road in Fitzwilliam NH.  She used the land and buildings that she got from her divorce from Kenneth J. Terry in 2005.  She is now remarried toa man named Chase so she goes by the name of Mary Terry Chase or Mary Chase.  She shows at the Washington International Horse Show - never places but shows there anyway.

The rescue (Laurel Heights Sanctuary) is a private charity. The state vet claims that there are no private charities in NH - Mary Terry has never turned over the records of Turtle Rock Rescue to the State AG's office.  She shreeded them.
She is not to be trusted with anything animal.  She will steal it and sell it.

Two of my horses were found - one in Maine - Mary Terry sold Sinful Betty to a dealer friend of theirs a Mark Merril of Stetson Maine - he is on the Maine Sex offender list - Betty was starved for two winters and left for dead when she was bought by Joan Cameron's boyfriend - upon doing dental work they found that Betty is a Thoroughbred and upon notification tot he Registry they found out that she was indeed stolen as there are no Court Documents to indicate otherwise.  Mary Terry made l000 and sold a 22 yr old broodmare as a riding horse - a Statndardbred riding horse. 

Mini was returned to me via Tammy Poisson in Chester NH - she knew of the shady business dealings of Ken and Mary and she had Mini for sale and I called her and I bought back my own horse - she is still with me and doing well.

Ken has disappearedto parts unknown.  Mary put my mares in the killers as she could not feed them or sell them as the money to the rescue had dried up. 

My horses are listed on Netposse.com and without any Court Documents they are considered stolen - Maybe Mary was told that there was a Court order allowing my horses to be moved but the only court documents tat I have is a Narrative and that does not give Francis Payette of Hollis NH permission to even touch my horses - he even tried to kill me with a truck because I would not give him 5000 forhis new well.  The contract for service told me that I had t pay their board - he signed it and did not pay the board - I tried and Ken Terry refused it - the only legal matter with any statute of limitations is the attempted murder with a F150 pick up truck - while I was bringing in my horses - There was no board because (the court found) Payette refused it and once money is refused it cannot be claimed again - I an not a loony just want to know where the horses are.


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#2 Author of original report

updated information

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Roger Henry,  trustee of this organization lives at 515 andrea doria, sierra vista az 85635.  His telephone is disconnected.  The organization has a "not good standing" status with the Arizona Corporations division of the Attorney General's office.  I asked in a letter to Henry dated 10/31-07 what his organization did with my horses ie who he sold them to & how much he got for them.  There was no response.

The identity theft by Mary L. Terry d/b/a Turlle Rock Rescue occurred on August 28, 2003 from the data base of 4.21.l85.2 (Commonwealth of Massachusetts) 

There was another one on August 17, 2003 by the same person.  E mails were sent to Travis Eaton & Debbie Brosman (both employees of Turtle Rock Rescue) both were sent by Mary L. Terry claiming to be me.

Kenneth J. Terry has a criminal record in Arizona for dwi +l0, an assortment of assault & batteries, a divorce from Donna Terry.  He also has a record in the State of Wyoming for sexual assault upon a minor. 

He fled the State of NH after divorcing Mary Terry in October 2005.  His whereabouts remain a mystery.  He committed a felony upon my horse for his castration under the cruelty to animal statute 644:8A.  He castrated another person's horse before 2000 & his insurance carrier had to pay off big time.  They fled the State of Arizona for some reason.  Supposedly squatters were living on the property & Mary could not get them removed.

I posted the pictures of the missing/stolen horses upon this web site.  As I hold all legal ownership documents it would be appreciated if they were retuned and someone in the State of ARizona prosecute Terry for horse theft as Turtle Rock did not board horses & the IRS claims that they don't board horses as it is not declared on their income tax returns.

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#3 Author of original report

identity theft

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Mary Terry d/b/a Turtle Rock Rescue in Fitzwilliam NH stole my identity by accessing my e mail account, using it as me & sending e mails to other people in New Hamphsire and Massachusetts.  Federal Court case was dismissed for a procedural error.

She did so from her computer at the Department of Employment & Training in Leominster Massachusetts. 

She and her husband sold my horses outof the State of NH so that I would not find them.  As of this writing I have found two.  One was sold to a dealer friend of Mary's in Stetson Maine and the other one was to a gal in Chester NH.

She continues to solicit funds via the internet for a rescue or "boarding farm" that was closed up by the NH State Vet's office in Nov 2004.  She got a free house, free barns (courtesy of Morton Barns), 28 acres of land plus an indoor all for free.  No one at the NH Ag's office is interested in prosecuting this woman for fraud. the husband Kenneth J. has disappeared - the Trustee's phone in Sierra Vista Arizona is disconnected - his name is Roger Henry (not the real estate Roger  Henry)

The person who sent my horses to a "boarding farm" had no court order from any court in NH to remove anything so animals themselves are stolen as I hold all legal ownership documents.  He just lied to everyone involved - including the Sheriff's Department.  He & Kenneth J Terry signed a contract to board my horses (am over the age of l8) & turtle rock did not board horses - way for them to steal them.

don't know where Kenneth J. Terry is at present but he may be operating a clock repair shop or a "horse rescue" in the Western States.

 

susan e miller

amherst nh

 

 

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#4 Consumer Comment

this is from a true animal welfare person

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

ken terry has never refuted the fact that he
a - took 6k from the rescue - donated funds
b- cut my stallion on 6-22-02
c- bought scuba gear with donated money
d - is not an animal welfare person at all
e - paid his lawyer some 14,000 to hustle me when he refused to honor his own contract for service
f.- has a criminal record in arizona and wyoming - there are supposedly 22 warrants fro him someplace
g - there is no one in the area that has a good word to say about them
h - endangered the welfare of my horses - not anyone elses
i - has continued to lie about what his business dealings are
j - has a relationship with the chief of police in fitzailliam nh as he will not prosecute him for animal endangerement - when the state report is blatant about the neglect, curelty issues ie lack of food and water and mutilation of a horse (mine and the one that ken kicked while it was on the ground and broke its teeth)
k - made this threat againt my personal safety
All of the court documents are on our website: www.turtlerockrescue.org Your ramblings must and will be stopped! People can look at the docs and make their own decisions and they'll see through Ms. Miller's lies
l - and if they are lies kenneth then why don't you find your friend ms katherine lord klein and have her come out of hiding for a hearing - and you pay for your own lawyer - I am not
m - go to prison where you belong

and unlike mary
I sign my name
susan e miller
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#5 Consumer Comment

New Hampshire State verterinarian only did 1/2 of his job

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

Fitzwilliam shelter closes
Horses' treatment questioned earlier

IAN BAGLEY and AMANDA BOROZINSKI
Sentinel Staff

FITZWILLIAM Just days after New Hampshire's state veterinarian accused them of cruelty to horses, the operators of Turtle Rock Rescue Inc., a shelter for abandoned horses, has closed its doors in Fitzwilliam.

It will become a private farm, and the 30 or so horses there will stay, said Mary Terry, who runs the shelter with her husband, Kenneth J. Terry.

After touring the farm in December and witnessing what he considered bad treatment, Dr. Clifford McGinnis, the veterinarian for the N.H. Department of Agriculture, suspended Turtle Rock's license to run a nonprofit horse shelter at 39 Laurel Heights Road.

Many horses were being forced to stand in 6 inches or more of mud 24 hours a day, and some pails of drinking water were frozen, McGinnis said.

Horses and mules wallowing in mud and manure, with no place to go to get dry and no clean bedded place to lay down, as well as not having access to clean fresh water at all times, constitutes cruelty, he wrote in a letter to Terry Dec. 28.

However, the suspension didn't force the shelter to close, McGinnis said.

We didn't shut them down. They shut themselves down, he said.

After McGinnis sent his letter, the Terry family had until Monday to ask for a hearing with the Department of Agriculture, McGinnis said.

Had the Terrys filed for a hearing and then worked to improve conditions at the shelter, the state would have let them keep the license, he said.

In a letter to McGinnis dated Dec. 29, Terry wrote that Turtle Rock's operators had already voted in November to shut down the farm, effective Jan. 1.

In part, Turtle Rock chose to close because it would be so expensive to follow the state's requirement to give horses a dry place to go after a rainstorm, Kenneth Terry wrote.

Just in 2004, over $9,000 in funding has been used to combat mud, he wrote.

If they wanted to avoid paying for fill, the Terrys could have poured concrete floors in the horse paddocks, but they think it would be unhealthy for horses to stand on concrete all day.

However, McGinnis said concrete can work if it's covered by rubber mats or some other layer of soft material. With mud everywhere, the horses have no choice except to sleep standing up.

Another issue is living space: McGinnis said the Terrys were housing up to three horses in structures that have only 144 square feet, and state agricultural rules require 100 square feet of living space per horse.

What will happen to the horses? Mary Terry said. They will remain in our care. We are a sanctuary and will remain a sanctuary. We need no state license. You just won't be able to visit us, unless we invite you as a personal friend to our private property.

We will continue to help our animal brothers. We will provide them safety, love, shelter and, above all, dignity, she said.

Mary Terry defended the farm, pointing to a state report that said all horses were in good condition.

Our biggest regret will be those animals we are unable to help. Without an outlet for adoption, over 100 equines a year will have to find a new place to go, Mary Terry said.

Since the farm became a licensed shelter in 2000, more than 100 horses have been adopted, she said.

McGinnis said a small, untreated wound was spotted on the left front leg of one horse, but the wound was small and probably would have healed on its own.

Still, he wasn't at all impressed with the Terrys.

He doesn't care about the horses, McGinnis said, referring to Kenneth Terry.

Fitzwilliam police probably won't pursue any criminal charges, Chief Bruce L. Newton said. Terry's intentions were good, but he just got a little ahead of himself in terms of the size of the shelter, Newton said.

Some of what goes on at Turtle Rock might barely meet the legal definition of cruelty, but if police pursued it, they might have trouble in court.

Not all judges are convinced that a horse standing in mud is bad for its health, Newton said.

McGinnis said he had been working with the Terry family for about two years, trying to improve conditions at the farm, and urging them to provide a dry place for the horses by replacing the mud with fill.

I was assured two years ago that heated waterers would be put in, McGinnis wrote in his Dec. 28 letter, adding, To maintain hydration, horses need free choice of water at all times.

But the Terrys didn't comply, and kept offering excuses about why the changes weren't happening, he said.

They kept stonewalling me and they got away with it for a year or two, McGinnis said.

In a prepared statement, Mary Terry said she will thank all of our supporters, both past, present and future, and especially those who entrusted their equines into our care. Thank you for the honor of allowing us to share in their lives.
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#6 Consumer Comment

latest sale item by turtle rock

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

ok so where did youdead beats get the car that you just sold - was it donated tothe rescue or did you steal it like you stolethe clocks that you stole - and did youdeclare the income as yours or the rescue's - did you put it on your income tax or did you just put it either up your nose or down your throat on one of your benders - or is it going to fund your vacation in the cayman islands so that you canuse your scuba gear that you purchsed with donated $$ wha wha wha kenneth is a victim, poor kenneth
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#7 Consumer Comment

am not an ex empoyee - original poster

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

and travis is right - the pony was to much for little casey to manage but mary soldit tothem anyway - cheryl has consulted an attorney in peterborough about child endangerment charges - and that is a civil matter - what mary did was a criminal matter - like the crap that kenny does - the only problem is that the pony would have to be endangered more by giving it back to turtle rock - and like what they did to my mini mouse - they sold her twice and the last time she was traded for a horse trailer - ken owes me 5,040.00 to buy back my own mare - and now that he has taken a bender on rescue money, and sold a car on e bay (without telling the govt I would assume) he can write me out a good checkfor mini mouse - not one of his famous rubber ones - robyn will never go back to trr - and the animal control person in temple can't stand them either, and he knows what kind of moron ken is with his fake badge that he bought - just another way to steal people's horses - like what he did to me - wha wha wha, kenneth
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Straight Facts

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Cheryl has not been happy with the the pony she got from Grand View.

I think Susan and I would know that since we have both talked to her in the last year. You may think you kow every thing Mary but you are out of the loop. Same with your crazy wife beating Husban.
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wha wha wha mary, knowingly endangered the welfare of a 6 yr old child - sold them a pony that was too much for a kid with leaning disabiliites

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

want to raise to the bait - cheryl thinks that you are a fraud also and a scum bag dealer like your husband - and you knowingly endangered the welfare of a 6 yr old child - sold them a pony that was too much for a kid with leaning disabiliites to handle, knowing that the pony was dangerous - and did it anyway, and gave that child lessons - but you need to cheat someone else out of their 2500 - as you took the pony for board for l000 from mavis -and robyn will never never go back to you or your scum bag husband and by the way the owners of grandview farm can't wait unitl you move to your new farm in fitzwilliam nh that the rescue paid for - along with trucks, trailers and barns - and by the way you can take your plaque and shove it- and I need a good check from kenneth and you for the mare that I had to buy back - milford district court - mary - you did not do such a good job hiding that one - and by the way your contract does not hold water - the mare was sold twice, traded for a horse trailer - you have no ownership documents as you did not get them from me - and I did not owe the goo pastor any money - and your lawyer cheated your scum bag husband kenneth - the one with the small d**k - and the entire rescue community knows what frauds you are - from the animal control person in fitzwilliam, to the sheriff, to the irs in cincinnati (for you buying scuba gear and selling stolen clocks) and the congressman's office - so go out of business but I want my records as to what you did with my horses as I have the legal billof sale and the reg certificates - not you - horse theif, horse thief - thief and that is what you are plain and simple - you shake everyone down for $$ don't want to work, by the way I want a copy of the donation of $300,000 that you gave to your rescue - same with the irs - they want a copy also - and the 42k worth of colic surgery on a horse from florida - what did you hid mary - another building or another bender of ken's - and you are sickos like what you did to that woman in arizona - joyce newey - her name is - that is why you got run out fo the state - scam artits - and ms m and robyn will never be abused by you folks again - never - and cheryl was contemplating suing you for child endangerment as you ahve no clue as towhat you are doing - no clue - and you will go down in a ball of flames - and you can send me a copy of your dear upcoming news letter telling everyone how great you are - just like leblanc screwing everyone on a construction job - and maybe someone will run you out of nh and you can just set up someplace else - wha wha wha mary -
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#10 Consumer Comment

Get your facts straight

AUTHOR: Mary - (U.S.A.)

Gee, when Cheryl was at the farm she raved how wonderful the pony was she bought, not adopted.

Your knowledge is worthless, I haven't been served with any lawsuit papers. Doubt I will be as Massachusett has frivolous lawsuit legislation. Would love to see you in a Massachusett court---might want to check which district too!

Please keep you eyes out for our upcoming press release. You and your "friends" should enjoy it.
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#11 Consumer Comment

from of one of your 'clients'

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

the other day one of turtle rock and mary terry's clients told me a story about ken and what he should do

he should take tweezers, put pepper on his d**k, wait until it sneezes and then he will be able to find it -

this came from someone who your dear wife (the buck toothed pickle queen ) endangered the welfare of a 6 yr old child with learning disabliities - so much for a 'trainer' but they needed the $$ no matter what - two more of the 40 people who hate them have copies of ken's criminal record - and you can take on the rest of the 'herd' - sounds like a threat to me - but that is what ken is all hot air - like a big balloon - and to be so tacky about 'where's the beef' - it should be grazing in the sunshine and on greeen grass - wha wha wha kenneth !!! he is such a victim - he is a victim onf his own actions trying to cheat someone, listening to a minister who lies, fails to read the paperwork, listens to his lawyer who screwed him over - and he and the good pastor can share a jail cell in concord for what they cooked up and fell flat on their faces - never listen to skippy payette - he has not clue as to what he is doing - and he always screws up - he is so stupid - and he is just a bully like poor kennth!!!!!!

semiller
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#12 Consumer Comment

wha wha wha kenneth, whois calling the kettle black

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

oh my - indigent - whois calling the kettle black - at least I work for a living - have a couple of jobs you know - my car is in storage and not waiting to be paid for - and I have another vehicle to drive you know - so it is like wearing a fur coat - you can only drive one at a time - and by the way he wholives in a glass house should not throw stones - and with your criminal record you could not get a job flipping burgers at mc donalds - no one wouldhire you - I paid for my own college education, paid for my hroses for the last l0 years, paid my boardl, fed other people's animals without a thank you - and I am not pro se in massachuestts - to my knowledge you wife has been served - maybe it is another one of your lhe said she siad type thing - he lies and then she lies - and since I don't live in mass pro se is quite hard to do - and I if you honored your own contract, and did not destroy or sell my horses - and the jockey club won't give out the papers as I hav ethem all and you sotle them with your scum bag lawyer who has disappeared - so blow that out your butt - and for your information - horses don't have titles - see I am not that stupid - and I ahve all of their regitraion papers - and your lawyer changed a court ordered agreement - and the docs are posted on patrr as travis posted them - so big man blow that out your a*s - see you in court kenneth - see you there - and you broke your own contract as that is what you wanted to do - you don't want to put any claim in on your insurance as you would go out of business and if you go out of business then there is no way for you to scam people out of their goods being clocks or horses or scuba gear - and under the freedom of information act I am entitled to find out what you did to my horses - and I did not not pay the bill, kenneth - YOUR REFUED MY MONEY YOU BIG PIECE OF s**t - YOU ARE JUST LIKE PASTOR SKIP - A WIFE ABUSER AND YOU ARE A HORSE THIEF PLAIN AND SIMPLE - DON'T CARE WHAT YOU TELL PEOPLE - I work on the fact s and the paperwork - why should you be so shocked I did not pay the billyou and ms klein set me up so that you could keep my horss and sell them -- wha wha wha kenenth - pitty poor kenneth - wha wha wha wha wha
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#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds

You're WHACKED in the head!

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Your accusations are so BIZARRE that I find it hard for anyone to even listen to you! You and your little friend in Fitzwilliam, Travis, can just keep on going with the lies. Seems like I'm the only one that has posted any sort of document to prove that you are an indigent, can't even afford to PAY for a lawyer. I didn't see your name come up as a powerball winner. Your old Buick has been at the repair shop for over a year because you can't pay for it.

The court papers overrule anything that the jockey club has given you, why don't you use it for toilet paper and wipe your lip!

We've got a new Governor now, maybe you can harass his office for a while. Want his phone number?

Face it Ms. Miller, you lost. You've lost several times before and you will continue to lose your cases, guess this makes you a LOSER!

See you in court, supposedly, with your lawsuit against Mary. More B.S. Are you still Pro Se with all of your money? Just remember that!

I'll deal with the rest of your "herd" too!

Only 40 people that don't like us? That's not bad considering I have refused a lot more adoptions than that! You can make up a better number than that, or is that as high as you can count?
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#14 REBUTTAL Individual responds

You're WHACKED in the head!

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Your accusations are so BIZARRE that I find it hard for anyone to even listen to you! You and your little friend in Fitzwilliam, Travis, can just keep on going with the lies. Seems like I'm the only one that has posted any sort of document to prove that you are an indigent, can't even afford to PAY for a lawyer. I didn't see your name come up as a powerball winner. Your old Buick has been at the repair shop for over a year because you can't pay for it.

The court papers overrule anything that the jockey club has given you, why don't you use it for toilet paper and wipe your lip!

We've got a new Governor now, maybe you can harass his office for a while. Want his phone number?

Face it Ms. Miller, you lost. You've lost several times before and you will continue to lose your cases, guess this makes you a LOSER!

See you in court, supposedly, with your lawsuit against Mary. More B.S. Are you still Pro Se with all of your money? Just remember that!

I'll deal with the rest of your "herd" too!

Only 40 people that don't like us? That's not bad considering I have refused a lot more adoptions than that! You can make up a better number than that, or is that as high as you can count?
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#15 REBUTTAL Individual responds

You're WHACKED in the head!

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Your accusations are so BIZARRE that I find it hard for anyone to even listen to you! You and your little friend in Fitzwilliam, Travis, can just keep on going with the lies. Seems like I'm the only one that has posted any sort of document to prove that you are an indigent, can't even afford to PAY for a lawyer. I didn't see your name come up as a powerball winner. Your old Buick has been at the repair shop for over a year because you can't pay for it.

The court papers overrule anything that the jockey club has given you, why don't you use it for toilet paper and wipe your lip!

We've got a new Governor now, maybe you can harass his office for a while. Want his phone number?

Face it Ms. Miller, you lost. You've lost several times before and you will continue to lose your cases, guess this makes you a LOSER!

See you in court, supposedly, with your lawsuit against Mary. More B.S. Are you still Pro Se with all of your money? Just remember that!

I'll deal with the rest of your "herd" too!

Only 40 people that don't like us? That's not bad considering I have refused a lot more adoptions than that! You can make up a better number than that, or is that as high as you can count?
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#16 REBUTTAL Individual responds

You're WHACKED in the head!

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Your accusations are so BIZARRE that I find it hard for anyone to even listen to you! You and your little friend in Fitzwilliam, Travis, can just keep on going with the lies. Seems like I'm the only one that has posted any sort of document to prove that you are an indigent, can't even afford to PAY for a lawyer. I didn't see your name come up as a powerball winner. Your old Buick has been at the repair shop for over a year because you can't pay for it.

The court papers overrule anything that the jockey club has given you, why don't you use it for toilet paper and wipe your lip!

We've got a new Governor now, maybe you can harass his office for a while. Want his phone number?

Face it Ms. Miller, you lost. You've lost several times before and you will continue to lose your cases, guess this makes you a LOSER!

See you in court, supposedly, with your lawsuit against Mary. More B.S. Are you still Pro Se with all of your money? Just remember that!

I'll deal with the rest of your "herd" too!

Only 40 people that don't like us? That's not bad considering I have refused a lot more adoptions than that! You can make up a better number than that, or is that as high as you can count?
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#17 Author of original report

go ahead big man lets go back to court

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

ok pencil d--k - take me back to court - I was not harassing your client - and from what I hear from the horse community he is a flea bag, scum bag creap just like you are - he cheats people just like you - he owes everyone in the chester, auburn area, and as long as I own the papers on those horses, you own nothing -= and for your further information, your scum bag cheat of a lawyer is not in practice any more - wonder if your friend joe le blanc would like a copy of your criminal record - he thinks that you are such a wonderful person - wife beater, rapist - and that is what sexual assault is all about - isn't it, control and power - just like what you do to the poor horses that you abuse, or the dead ones that you left in the trailer - gee ken you have been quiet for a few weeks - and you should go back under the rock that you came from - liek your cheat 'client' joe le blanc - he stiffed the folks at wingged spur ranch but he is not worth taking to court - just like you - pencil d**k - lets go ken - you and the good pastor can go to court on the same day - and what law suit against mary - for getting into my electronic mail and using it to spread nasty stuff about me - that is a federal crime you know - the lawyer told me that it has been filed with leominster district court - mine works for me - but that is what you paid ms klein to do - steal my horses - you got your 22k worth or did you only pay her 9700 as decared on your income tax - what aobut the 42,000 worth of colic surgery - dr myhre would never so such a thing - or is that where you hide your drugs that you are running - come now ken - lets go back to court - see that restraining order put to good use - this is a public forum - blow that out your a*s ken - a big huge fart - that is all that you are - scum bag horse theif - horse thief - and everyone knows that you are selling stolen donated horses - or mary is - and pocketing the $$ - or telling the irs that you only get 400.00 for a horse , now come on ken - your flea bag bucked tooth pickle queen of a wife is supposed to be this grand prix trainer - she can't even spell trainer let alone treainer let alone be one - the contract that I have is for 'boarding and storing' not theft by deception that is what you did - horse theft is a class A felonly in this state and hanging by the neck at noon on a saturday - you just paid your lawyer to change the paperwork - that is all - and you stole my horses - plain and simple - blow that out your a*s kenneth - big huge fart - you are all hot air - lets go kenneth - spend some more of your donated money - you are planning on going out of business in the spring - keeping all the morton buildings, indoor and new house that the rescue bought you - that is illegal also kenneth - like your scum bag builder friend joe leblanc - and I now hav 40 more people agianst you and what your group is doing - just a scum bag horse dealer from arizona - why don't you just go back there but you got run out of the state for stealing - clocks - what about those - you sold them on e bay - were they donated tot he rescue or did your defunct business donated them - or the scuba gear that you bought - going to run to the caymans before the feds get you for tax fraud - blow it out your a*s kenneth !!!!!!!! see you in court kenneth
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#18 Consumer Comment

Oh its alive

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Susan,

Give him the shovel he will dig his own hole. People can see how he is. In his posting he acts so much better then you, but he's not. He's the one with the criminal record, he's the one that beats women. He thinks he is so better and has so much more then you HA just look at there dump in Rindge. We know how he gets all his toys. Don't let his talking down to you stop you. String this a*s up.

I also would like to know when they started having clients. If I recall you can contact any person that has adopted from Turtle Rock.

Keep up the hard work, Winter is coming and this is the time they hurt for money ( oh wait I forgot Mary is the pickle queen). Boing boing boing Want some Chinese Food?
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#19 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Where's the Beef?

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

As usual, you're lying again! You really should stop harrassing my clients before you really end up in hot water! I thought you had dried up and blown away by now. I guess you really want to lose what LITTLE you have. The court documents are available for everyone to see, we DID NOT steal any horses, and you LOST. We're still waiting to see this "lawsuit" that you have against Mary, just another lie for the public. You really have lost your mind. Your little friends have been awful quiet too!

Still waiting for you and your little friends to post documents proving "the other half of the story". Don't exist, do they?
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#20 Consumer Comment

ken's buddy is out of practice

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

gee for all of those looking for a lawyer - ken's buddy katherine lord klein is in non active status with the nh bar - wonder what she did kenny - did she scam the wrong person out of her horses for you - or did you just not pay her - oh and by the way - why don't you pay for those buildings that publically donated money paid for that you and your pickle queen scum bag wife are planning on using when you go out of buisness in the spring of 2005 when your lease is up - and put the grandview horses that mary has stolen and not sold yet there and use it as a private farm - don't think that the irs will like that very much - now would it - and you have been quiet - what about - your wife does not like getting sued in mass for getting into my e mail account - might the buck tooth pickle queen maybe going ot loose her job if the commonwealth of mass decides to make an example of her - wha wha wha wha kenny is a victim - no wrong I am the victim and I don't like being stolen from kenny - wha wha wha
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#21 Consumer Comment

300K

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

so now ken, tell all oft he readers of this rip off report how your dear scum bag, pickle faced wife donated 300k of her own money to the rescue when she makes 50+/- at the Commonweatlth of Mass at a non profit - gee that would mean that you might have to go to work and that wouldbe such a pitty - and there would be no time to steal people's horses (clocks and other things of value)now would it - and with your criminal record no one would even let you flip burgers at mcdonalds - and just for your information - you can't get my race track licnese suspended as only a steward can do it - and to quote crystal conway (who hates your guts by theway) "blow that out your a*s" - with your drunkedness and criminal record you would never get past the paperwork let alone know anything about the racing business - and your insurance carrier knows that you are engaged in a criminal business - and if they cancel you you will never get insuarnce again as mary has done this to someone before - so now you not only have to pay formy horse - lets see I havee about 35k into him in board - and 8500 into that filly that mary sold - and the 22k that you paid ms klein to hustle me - and mary is going to have to pay me for getting into my e mail plus all of my damages - it would have been easire to let me participate in this boarding and storing that you signed a contract to do, but it is your ego (pencil d**k) that got in your way and cost you lots and lots of $$ - so try the license thing Ken - and you can deal with Ted Gatsas at the state - never never hustle a race horse person - never - semiller
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#22 Author of original report

ken, you sued me in cheshire county because your wife baited me with e mails

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

- she got into my e mail account and used it to spread stuff about me - we have the ip nos - the commnwealth of mass - ken - paper document - as far as your case for defamation you LOST TWICE and had to pay mike sheehan 2000 each time that your wife baited me - 03-E-006 is the case number - remember it ken - and as far as the poor house goes - it would probably be cleaner than that dump you live in with no fridge - and a dumpster in the front lawn - and I was asked to remove my horses 'for reasons other than non payment of rnet' but you did not remove the paperwork - - you paid your lawyer to change that document - the court did not give you anything - you stole my horse for a bill that I did not sign the contract for service, ken - you got what you paid your lawyer to do - scam me out of my babies - and you can try to take my license - I did not abandon anything, have had mine for 20 or more years and I am not a crook from arizona - horse thief - and I will contact mr kelly and let them know what you have done - the docs are posted on patrr - and as far as craig mc donald goes he hates you big time - you just tried to hustle him to haul horses from canada for free - he is the one who told me that you 'are so slick' that you have done this before - and if you played the game by the rules (contract that you signed) that you wold not get sued - mr matina did not - he took a bribe ahd he lost his license - just like your ms klein will - or maybe she is playing footsies with judge barry so she won't - that is the scam and brian whipple is the one who clued me in on that one - and he hates you and your organization - same with the town of fitzwilliam and you did not adopt out my horses - you cut goober on 6-22-02, dont' want to pya for him and sold my mares - funny thing everyone that I talk to hates turtle rock and you and mary big time, big time ken - and you can take me to court - lets go big man - let's go - you don't have any money wha wha wha
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#23 Author of original report

ken, you sued me in cheshire county because your wife baited me with e mails

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

- she got into my e mail account and used it to spread stuff about me - we have the ip nos - the commnwealth of mass - ken - paper document - as far as your case for defamation you LOST TWICE and had to pay mike sheehan 2000 each time that your wife baited me - 03-E-006 is the case number - remember it ken - and as far as the poor house goes - it would probably be cleaner than that dump you live in with no fridge - and a dumpster in the front lawn - and I was asked to remove my horses 'for reasons other than non payment of rnet' but you did not remove the paperwork - - you paid your lawyer to change that document - the court did not give you anything - you stole my horse for a bill that I did not sign the contract for service, ken - you got what you paid your lawyer to do - scam me out of my babies - and you can try to take my license - I did not abandon anything, have had mine for 20 or more years and I am not a crook from arizona - horse thief - and I will contact mr kelly and let them know what you have done - the docs are posted on patrr - and as far as craig mc donald goes he hates you big time - you just tried to hustle him to haul horses from canada for free - he is the one who told me that you 'are so slick' that you have done this before - and if you played the game by the rules (contract that you signed) that you wold not get sued - mr matina did not - he took a bribe ahd he lost his license - just like your ms klein will - or maybe she is playing footsies with judge barry so she won't - that is the scam and brian whipple is the one who clued me in on that one - and he hates you and your organization - same with the town of fitzwilliam and you did not adopt out my horses - you cut goober on 6-22-02, dont' want to pya for him and sold my mares - funny thing everyone that I talk to hates turtle rock and you and mary big time, big time ken - and you can take me to court - lets go big man - let's go - you don't have any money wha wha wha
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#24 Consumer Comment

why travis was fired

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

I thought taht you fired travis because he found out that you had horses that had leptroporosis (moon blindness) and you were covering it up - adn you had contaminated wells under the barn at grandview farm - that made the horses sick - as far as the state vet's report goes - that does not carry to much weight - he is retired - and travis has nothing to do with his office - you tried to scam travis out of his horses - and you hate him because he is being public about information that mary (your own wife) is feeding him about how you stole 6000 of rescue money and went on a bender with it - see i hae a statement from her that Turtle Rock does not board horses - so why did you sign a contract to board mine - I dont' understand that - mary hates having to cover your spending - if she says anything you will hit her again - it is a control issue ken - you can't control me and you can't control travis and the rest of us - and there are more horse people in the Southern New Hamshire area who just hate you and Turtle Rock - semiller
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#25 Consumer Comment

no one cares about your opinion

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

wha wha wha, ken - no one cares about your opinion - let alone me - I have no use for a wife beater, horse theif or sex offender - travis and the rest of the 'gang' only want you out of business - found some more people over the weekend - gee I did not see mary exhibit at deerfield on Friday - what happened - you could not steal a quality hunter from anyone or are you just out of money - gretchen won the jumper class - pitty mary - even jenny williams was there but not the wonderful mary millson, love, ball heinze terry - and one of her stolen turtle rock show horses
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#26 Consumer Comment

no one cares about your opinion

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

wha wha wha, ken - no one cares about your opinion - let alone me - I have no use for a wife beater, horse theif or sex offender - travis and the rest of the 'gang' only want you out of business - found some more people over the weekend - gee I did not see mary exhibit at deerfield on Friday - what happened - you could not steal a quality hunter from anyone or are you just out of money - gretchen won the jumper class - pitty mary - even jenny williams was there but not the wonderful mary millson, love, ball heinze terry - and one of her stolen turtle rock show horses
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#27 Consumer Comment

no one cares about your opinion

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

wha wha wha, ken - no one cares about your opinion - let alone me - I have no use for a wife beater, horse theif or sex offender - travis and the rest of the 'gang' only want you out of business - found some more people over the weekend - gee I did not see mary exhibit at deerfield on Friday - what happened - you could not steal a quality hunter from anyone or are you just out of money - gretchen won the jumper class - pitty mary - even jenny williams was there but not the wonderful mary millson, love, ball heinze terry - and one of her stolen turtle rock show horses
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#28 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I have now lost my mind?

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Wrong Ken!

There you go Ken spin, spin that story on to me. It is about you and Turtle Rock Rescue, Not Grand View. Since you are part owner in that compnay if you post any part of my infomation I will seek a lawsuite against You, Mary and Grand View. I have letter to back up I was a great barn manager.

You leave out that you were unwilling to feed the animals hay or gain while I was in MD on vacation. You leave out how you beat a horse to get it in a stall. You don;t want to go there Ken.

Oh and for filing a lawsuit against me won't work. After all I have got you 30% more in dontaions.
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#29 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I have now lost my mind?

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Wrong Ken!

There you go Ken spin, spin that story on to me. It is about you and Turtle Rock Rescue, Not Grand View. Since you are part owner in that compnay if you post any part of my infomation I will seek a lawsuite against You, Mary and Grand View. I have letter to back up I was a great barn manager.

You leave out that you were unwilling to feed the animals hay or gain while I was in MD on vacation. You leave out how you beat a horse to get it in a stall. You don;t want to go there Ken.

Oh and for filing a lawsuit against me won't work. After all I have got you 30% more in dontaions.
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#30 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I have now lost my mind?

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Wrong Ken!

There you go Ken spin, spin that story on to me. It is about you and Turtle Rock Rescue, Not Grand View. Since you are part owner in that compnay if you post any part of my infomation I will seek a lawsuite against You, Mary and Grand View. I have letter to back up I was a great barn manager.

You leave out that you were unwilling to feed the animals hay or gain while I was in MD on vacation. You leave out how you beat a horse to get it in a stall. You don;t want to go there Ken.

Oh and for filing a lawsuit against me won't work. After all I have got you 30% more in dontaions.
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#31 Author of original report

you are the one who has a criminal record not me - you are the one who is a horse thief not me, and you sell stolen donated property

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

gee ken - where did you get your degree to make such a statement - and you should not make such slanderous remarks as you are the one who has a criminal record not me - you are the one who is a horse thief not me, and you sell stolen donated property ie your defunct clock business - have to get rid of other people's property, right ken? so that you can make a quick buck - and I only want what is mine and what I have worked for - see you signed the contract not me - and my property ie 7 thoroughbred horses were only to be boardedthere - I don't owe anyone any money as I did not sign the contract for service - see Ken I go by what is in writing - and the doc that your laywer hustled me for, horses don't have 'titles' - I am not that stupid ken - they have reg papers - and I pulled your copr paperwork with the state of nh and irs and forwarded your scam tactics to the trustee roger henry - see what he says about it - did you give mary a black eye yet? and for travis - he only wants my horses with their owner - which is me - not trr and not payette - as he never sued me for the bill - as there was none - he is just a hustler like you - you are both the same you knwo- don't want to work for anything and hustle everyone - he sells the wesleyan religon for money and you sell other people's horses - travis does not like a theif and you taking other people's money to use for your 6000 bender in las vegas with lotto tickets, gambling and spas and fancy hotels - see ken if you really went on a 'cow rescue' you would have the receipts - I have asked the irs for them also - and the only reason that you don't like me is that I find out the facts, do the research andthen compare and make a judgement - my lawyer (the same one who sued mary ) has two stacks of docs against you folks and are planning on using them against fa payette on October 20 for an attachment on his real estate - for what he did - he never boarded my horses anyway as I only rented the barn - be real careful kne on who you term crazy - the rest of the horse people in New Hampshire hate you and what you do to animals big time - you will go down in flames - crash and burn ken - crash and burn
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#32 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Why you me Travis

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Travis,
The reason you hate me is that you were fired for not doing your job at GVEC. This report at the State Vet's office is public record and I will get the information and post that too. You just have a personal vendetta and no life!!!

For you Susan, in my opinion, you're just plain CRAZY!!!

I hope you all keep rambling, it's quite comical!
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#33 Consumer Comment

to kenneth... the good pastor francis a payette and nancy l payette of hollis nh - have a large lawsuit agains them

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

and by the way the good pastor francis a payette and nancy l payette of hollis nh - have a large lawsuit agains them for the destruction o fmy property - as skippy does what he wants and does not comply with the law - or is it the false police report that you filed - or mary threatneing me with arrest - so you might both behind bars - as if he is found at fault then ther eis an automatic criminal investigation by the nh state police or the doj - how does kenneth look in orange or do we have blackand white in new hamsphire - wha wha wha
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to ken and his buck tooth pickle queen mary

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

first of all ken - I do not have a long history of suing people -or do you mean the people that ripped me off for 86k on my house and the lawyer who got himself disbarred for taking a bribe andnot giving me my money - that iswhat the courts are for

2- My property was supposed to go to a boarding farm - per the sheriff and fa payette - you are just a horse thief and changed the 'boarding contract' - that you signed by the way - so I asked the irs to find out why you signed that contract as there is no slot on the 990 form for the reporting of that income, ken? - so that you could scam me out of my horses and sell them for big $$ - but you can't do anything with them - they are broodmares (you can't breed a tb broodmare without its papers ) and the horses are ' stolen ' - and the reg won't give them to you or anyoen else - and the papers are ownership docs not what payette told you - and the abandoned field crap - is nonsense and there are no abandoned fields in milford or anywhere else as there is little farm land left in the southern tier of new hampshire - that is the problem - tried to sellmy car at least I owned it and did not sell someone else's property and it is not like the clocks that you sold on e bay (notified the irs of that also) - did you steal them from the owners of your defunct clock repair shop - well I only got the ok from your own lawyer that you paid 22k to scam me out of my horses after I went to pick up my horses - see I did not know that she had ok'd the change of the court order - - and as an officer of the court I believed her - stupid me -- I think that judge barry would not like that and risking the loss of her license in nh she might say that you paid her the 22k to do that - and you just used bruce as a witness as you had this all set up before I even got there - and you did have a pang of conscience as you paced back and forth puffing on cigs paid for by trr money - see my horses were gone the 2nd day that they got there after you cut my stallion - that is the problem - this is all a cover as you have just done this before and if your insurance carrier (that I have notified by the way of your shotty business practices)- even craig mcdonald told me that you were so slick in scamming people that you have done this all before - bet yah that the woman's (is she single or married, Ken) name is joyce newey and that is the civil matter on your recordin az -and craig mcdonald told me that you called and called him wanting him to truck horses for FREE' so that you did not have to spendyour $$ on fuel - he told you to take a hike -- that is why trr got run out of arizona in a hurry and then you came here thinking that people are stupid - we are not - horse theift is still a hanging offense ken and I toldyou that you would go to jail for what you did - your lawyer also - I did nothing wrong you did - you did not play the game the way the sheriff told you to do - and you don't board horses - that is something that you signed - you are just a fraud plane and simple - you try to hustle anything from anyone and don't want to work - and since I your organizaiton is a public charity I have asked the IRS to furnish me with the docs for all the horses that were sent to and adopted from your organization for the year 2002 & 2003 - and the 42k surgery that was done on a horse that was sent from fla to trr in new hamsphire - is that where your drugs are coming from ken - and all of your paperwork is in cincinnati with the irs fraud unit - been there for months - and the scuba gear that you purchased in the name of the resuce - and if Mary thinks that I did not love my horses or do not - well - one of the mares that I own I have had since l988 and she was in perfect condition. she had a colt l994 - he was ok also, my nile was ok and I have had her since l999 - same with mini and my filly - see I would not have been able to adopt Lemhi Treasure from Kingsbridge rescue - and by the way the owners o fthat an other rescues can't stand either one of you scum bags - and if you have a problem with my licnesing you should call Paul Kelly at the NH Parimutual commission - I have had one since l984 and an owner's license sicne l988 - with your criminal record you could not even get into the front door in Concord or on any race track in the us - it is your ego and your lack of respect for another living creature - you are like fa payette - just the same -- and mary if I did not care about animals then why would I join the others and put you folks out of business - and thanks mary for feeding us the info - hope he does not beat you any more - you should leave him - I think that Ms. Klein screwed ken and Mary is going to do so also - semiller
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#35 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I have now lost my mine?

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Ken,

You know you put all this on yourself. If you never attacked Chuck, Our horses, My Kennel and Myself you would have had one less hater in the area. You are right I will not let TRR go until one or two things happen, You are voted out of office or the rescue is closed. I have the support of many in this area. Most of them won't post or put there name out there as you will go after them. There are only 3 people that are will to stand up in public against you, and we have to put up with your blackmails.

Why can't Mary or You ever tell the truth? Why don't you tell everyone how you blacked mailed me using the horses. How about telling people how Mary has so many names they can't all fit on one page. How about Mary sending out e-mails pretending to be others from her work. How about getting into my Yahoo Group twice and getting it deleted because you don't want people to know what your record is. How about Mary getting the password to Susan's e-mail account. Oh then there is an old board member that you have try to act like, went out and got an e-mail address just like hers, so you could pump me for information, Did not work did it Ken. How about all the bounced checks. Come on Ken tell the truth. Tell about your trip to get "cows". Tell what happen, tell about the 6k Mary was so open about, and what made me hate you. Tell the real reason why I could not stand you. Come on Ken. Your Wife is your worst enemy and she has given up alot, maybe too much and I bet she is now kicking herself in the a*s. Oh wait she will spin it to it was a plant. For plants she has been right 9 out of 10 times. How do you think I got your AZ record Ken- from your Wife Mary.


Yet I have lost my mind. I think not. I stick to the proven facts. I don't need to change my story every minute of every day, Unlike you and your wife. Spin Ken spin...
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#36 Consumer Comment

what about the other case

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

way to go travis!!!! Now he can tell me how he is not a wife beater - and all those misdomeanors/felonies - not a criminal record - now come on ken tell me that you are not a wife beater, and what about that civil case with a joyce newey that is on the file - was that for a sexual assault thing or did is she the woman who you stole her horse and mutilated it like what you did to "Chasentheclipse" a/k/a goober - his daddy sold in l982 for 440,000 and that is the only living pure bred male from that family - his 1/2 brother is an apendix reg quarter horsenamed 'meadow country star' -

llth ranking in the country - so why did you castrate him ken because you know nothing about horses or you would not like to have your ego bruised by having a woman manage one - see I pulled him out of his mother in l994 - not you - he does not know anyone else taking care of him and I know that he cut up - he is a chestnut and they are sensitive creatures - maybe you beat him like the 2 yr old colt that you had and shanked it so badly that if flipped over and broke its teeth, right ken - and the animal control people know about it - and you mutilated my horse and don't wnat to have pay for him - the entire thing is based on your ego and bad attitude towards women and that is what the horse busines is - women who ride, work in the industry -

and I earned my Race Track license - the hard way - if you know nothing about horses or the horse business then get out of the business ken - period plane and simple - travis put the pics of my horses that you stole ont he yahoo groups page - maybe we can find them before they are dead or traded for a piece of equipment -
maybe if you are so sue happy you should sue ms klein before she gets disbarred - I heard that she has lost her job at bragdon berkson and then at freund worthen as neither firm wanted to take the hitfor this - she whas she did is illegal - I can't sue her as she has no duty to me but you surely could - and that would give you your jollies by getting the best of a woman - poor ken
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#37 UPDATE Employee

Ya Know Susan... Get on with you life and leave us alone.

AUTHOR: Mary - (U.S.A.)

You may be right, but you will never get the horses back. We did a good job in finding them loving homes, something you could not give.

Get on with you life and leave us alone.
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#38 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Show the Docs.!

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

Ms. Miller, you are so lost in what is left of your mind that you're pathetic, along with the rest of your "gang". You keep saying that I've only posted half of the case, well then, post the documents for the other "half". As far as losing in court for defamation of Character, I don't recall a single trip to court for that with you.

You're ALL TALK, you have yet to show one piece of evidence, whereas I HAVE posted the actual court documents. You did not VACATE the property in Hollis, you were EVICTED! You have a long history of suing people for your shortcomings, I have those records, would you like those posted, drag your "good name" through the mud? I can arrange for that.

You have continually violated a restraining order against you and you will suffer the consequences of the law for that very soon. The horses were adopted out after the court awarded us ownership. I will arrange for your State licenses to be revoked, an easy task. Maybe you should consider some stuffed toy horses, maybe you can support those!

I have copies of every correspondence between you and our organization, showing the more than ample amounts of times that we tried to allow you to retrieve your animals, and the court documents show that your "witness" Chief of police, verified that you did not have enough money according to the court document that you signed to pick up the horses.

Mr. McDonald will verify that you tried to sell your car that afternoon to obtain the rest of the money. Furthermore, you didn't even have a place to put them, except for an abandoned field in Milford. Over the last few months I have been sitting in the background collecting damaging evidence against you and I feel that I now have enough to shut you up once and for all!

You have made many false accusations in many, many public forums and you shall suffer the consequences in court. Many of the people that you ramble to at your auto repair place in Jaffrey have contacted me and are willing to testify against you. The list goes on.

Prove me otherwise!!! You cannot hurt my organization with these lies, you are, however, sending yourself to the poor farm!
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#39 Consumer Comment

Petsonally, I don't believe all of what you say..

AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)

The court papers on their web site, especially the transcript of the hearing of the restraining order, speaks volumes.

I don't know about in your state, but in many states, going on an internet forum and posting messages to the person you are prohibited from contacting in person or harrassing in public, would be a violation of the restraining order.

Doing character assassination on people you lost a court case to, really hurts your credibility, IMHO. Not trying to be mean, but just an unbiased person giving an opinion.
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#40 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Reply to "K" from Rindge, get your facts Straight

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

Dear K (AKA Mary):

You should get your facts Straight. I was a Board Member. I have 4 people that can verify that information, along with documents sent out by Turtle Rock Rescue.

If you know both Ken and Mary, Then you know they change there story to fit the moment.

As for the 300K donation, there is no way on this earth they could have donated that, I also know for a fact the rescue has to report to the IRS who gave donations over I think 5K, something the rescue did not do.

Also any sane person would take the write off. That is what well off people do to off set there taxes.

I will be pulling the tax filings of Employment Links, Inc. as her wage would be listed.

As for being sued by the rescue for slander, Ken has posted all over the web we have increased there income, there for there lawsuit would be tossed out, as the rescue has not suffered any damage. As for Ken being a "wife beater" check out the AZ state website it tells the truth.
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#41 UPDATE Employee

300K donation

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

Please read on, all this information is true and can been seen on the State of AZ website http://www.supreme.state.az.us/publicaccess/
Case Number:J-0205-CR-960359 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:ST OF AZ VS TERRY
Court:Sierra Vista Justice Judge:HONORABLE GEORGE R. KIRMSE Filing Date: 02/29/1996 Disposition Date: 04/18/1996
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:ASSAULT Disposition Date:04/18/1996 Disposition:PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED
Event Date Event Description Party
9/23/1996 JFEP D 1
4/18/1996 FUND: BASE FINE D 1
4/18/1996 FUND: 59% SURCHG 9/1/95 D 1
4/18/1996 FUND: JCEF TIME PMT $12 D 1
2/29/1996 COMPLAINT FILED-UNIFORM CITATN D 1
Case Number:J-0205-CR-951911 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:ST OF AZ VS TERRY
Court:Sierra Vista Justice Judge:HONORABLE GEORGE R. KIRMSE Filing Date: 11/03/1995 Disposition Date: 11/07/1995
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:DOMESTIC VIOLENCE Disposition Date:11/07/1995 Disposition:PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED
Event Date Event Description Party
9/23/1996 JFEP D 1
1/12/1996 JFEP D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: BASE FINE D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: 59% SURCHG 9/1/95 D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: JCEF TIME PMT $12 D 1
11/3/1995 COMPLAINT FILED-UNIFORM CITATN D 1
Case Number:J-0205-CR-951911 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:ST OF AZ VS TERRY
Court:Sierra Vista Justice Judge:HONORABLE GEORGE R. KIRMSE Filing Date: 11/03/1995 Disposition Date: 11/07/1995
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:DOMESTIC VIOLENCE Disposition Date:11/07/1995 Disposition:PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED
Event Date Event Description Party
9/23/1996 JFEP D 1
1/12/1996 JFEP D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: BASE FINE D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: 59% SURCHG 9/1/95 D 1
11/7/1995 FUND: JCEF TIME PMT $12 D 1
11/3/1995 COMPLAINT FILED-UNIFORM CITATN D 1
Case Number:J-0205-CR-961192 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:ST OF AZ VS TERRY
Court:Sierra Vista Justice Judge:HONORABLE GEORGE R. KIRMSE Filing Date: 07/18/1996 Disposition Date: 02/04/1998
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:CRIMINAL DAMAGE Disposition Date:02/04/1998 Disposition:GUILTY
Event Date Event Description Party
2/4/1998 FUND: BASE FINE D 1
2/4/1998 FUND: 1996 SURCHARGES D 1
1/28/1997 MOTION FILED D 1
1/28/1997 CAL: TRIAL COUNTY ATTORNEY D 1
11/29/1996 CAL: TRIAL COUNTY ATTORNEY D 1
8/23/1996 CAL: TRIAL COUNTY ATTORNEY D 1
Case Number:J-0205-TR-955100 Case Category:TRAFFIC Case Title:ST OF AZ VS TERRY
Court:Sierra Vista Justice Judge:HONORABLE GEORGE R. KIRMSE Filing Date: 07/25/1995 Disposition Date: 08/08/1995
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:DUI - W/BAC +.10 Disposition Date:08/08/1995 Disposition:PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED
Event Date Event Description Party
9/23/1996 JFEP D 1
1/12/1996 JFEP D 1
8/8/1995 FUND: PRE 9/95 SURCHARGES-57% D 1
8/8/1995 FUND: PRE 9/95 BASE FINE D 1
7/25/1995 COMPLAINT FILED-UNIFORM CITATN D 1
Case Number:M-1041-CR-93017550 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:STATE OF ARIZONA VS TERRY
Court:Tucson City Court Judge:None Filing Date: 02/18/1993 Disposition Date: 01/15/1994
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:CRIMINAL TRESPASS 2N DEG Disposition Date:01/15/1994 Disposition:GUILTY
Count 2:DISORDERLY CONDUCT-FIGHTING Disposition Date:01/15/1994 Disposition:NOT REFERRED FOR PROSECUTION
Count 3:FAILURE TO APPEAR 2ND DEG Disposition Date:01/15/1994 Disposition:GUILTY
Event Date Event Description Party
8/20/1999 REACT / FACTS CONVERSION
11/30/1998 SE: REVIEW D 1
9/5/1997 TIC: LETTER-SUMMONS MAILER D 1
12/3/1993 FUND: JCEF TIME PMT $12 D 1
12/3/1993 FUND: PRE 9/95 SURCHARGES-57% D 1
12/3/1993 FUND: PRE 9/95 BASE FINE D 1
12/3/1993 COMMUNITY SERVICE D 1
2/18/1993 FILED: COMPLAINT-CITATION D 1
Case Number:M-1041-CR-99004190 Case Category:CRIMINAL Case Title:STATE OF ARIZONA VS TERRY
Court:Tucson City Court Judge:None Filing Date: 11/03/1989 Disposition Date:
Party Name:KENNETH JAMES TERRY Party Type:D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth:06/24/1956
Count 1:ASSAULT-INTENT/RECKLESS/INJURE Disposition Date:10/22/1990 Disposition:GUILTY
Count 2:CRIMINAL DAMAGE ALL OTHERS Disposition Date: Disposition:
Count 3:FAILURE TO APPEAR 2ND DEG Disposition Date:10/22/1990 Disposition:GUILTY
Event Date Event Description Party
8/20/1999 REACT / FACTS CONVERSION
12/2/1998 WRNT: QUASH (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
12/2/1998 * D 1
8/11/1998 SE: RETURN D 1
8/7/1998 CAL: HRNG-DV VOLUNTARY APPEAR D 1
4/18/1996 WRNT: ISSUE (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
9/6/1995 CONTACT: SUMMONS MAILER D 1
12/16/1994 TIC: LETTER-SUMMONS MAILER D 1
2/18/1993 WRNT: QUASH (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
2/18/1993 HELD: HEARING D 1
2/18/1993 * D 1
12/29/1992 WRNT: ISSUE (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
6/19/1992 TIC: LETTER-SUMMONS MAILER D 1
6/17/1992 CONTACT: SUMMONS MAILER D 1
5/29/1992 CONTACT: SUMMONS MAILER D 1
5/15/1992 TIC: LETTER-SUMMONS MAILER D 1
4/13/1992 PROOF: FAILED TO COMPLETE D 1
1/1/1991 TIC: PROOF-COMMUNITY SERVICE D 1
10/22/1990 HELD: ARRAIGNMENT D 1
10/22/1990 * D 1
10/22/1990 WRNT: QUASH (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
10/22/1990 PROBATION D 1
10/22/1990 FUND: PRE 9/95 SURCHARGES-57% D 1
10/22/1990 FUND: PRE 9/95 BASE FINE D 1
10/22/1990 FUND: JCEF TIME PMT $8 D 1
12/12/1989 WRNT: ISSUE (CONVERTED WRNT) D 1
11/3/1989 FILED: COMPLAINT-CITATION D 1
11/3/1989 DV - DOMESTIC VIOLENCE D 1
11/3/1989 HELD: ARRAIGNMENT D 1
11/3/1989 CAL: ARRM (CONV) D 1
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#42 Consumer Comment

rebuttal to ken terry's comments

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

if you go to the arizona state home page "www.az.gov" and click on the public access to the courts then put in ken terry's name - and thereis a host of charges/complaints - what is domestic violence ken anyway? and then his first wife divorced him for that or was it hustling young girls like 'dawn' this year -

and I was told that mary had a black eye - what did she hit a door knob or somehting - you are just like the good pastor skip payette whose first wife 'was found dead beside him' see young people just don't end up dead or die mysteriously -

and the sexual assault charge is from the state of wyoming sex offender registry - contact person is jbriles - we hve a copy of that record - and my horses were removed for 'reasons other than non payment of rent' and ken was supposed to 'board and store' them for 28 days - under the state law rsa 540a3VII -

Certian Specific Acts Prohibited - VII - A landlord (not turtle rock equine rescue) shall maintain and excercise reasonable care in the storage of the personal property of a tenant (miller's 7 horses) who has vacated the premises (she did not vacate them), etierh voulunarily or by evication, for a period of 45 days (changed to 28) after the date upon which such tenant has vacated (miller was standing there when trr stole horses). During this period, the tenant shall be allowed to recover personal propertyWITHOUT PAYMENT OF RENT OR STROAGE FEES. (TRR signed a contract to charge rent, sell horses and other wise dispose of property) -
Payette had a writ of posession dated 6-12-02 and trr took them on 6-20-02 - he told trr that the horses were abandoned - under the state law of nh - they were not abandoned property until 7-10-02 - and then could be disposed of - he was told by miller that she had a place to board them on 7-10-02 but he removed them anyway - his farm that he supposedly had a buyer for is empty - no buyer - no money - he has no water and no septic - period and end of discussion - so why did ken terry's lawyer chase miller - she obviously went to law school - and knows what hte law is - trr does not 'board horses' - period - ken does board llaams and other animals for perople and pockets the $$ for himself - mary sells stolen horses and keeps the $$ for herself - she also uses trr supplies for her other business 'grandviewfarm equestrian llc ' she does not pay her help - ken does not pay his help - his checks bounce no one will work for them -

he sells stolen property via the internet (ebay) clocks from his other business - and buys scuba equipment - in the name of trutle rock equine rescue - and turtle rock equine resuce is not a BOARDING FARM - not a boarding farm - if it is it can't charge board as it is restricted by it's corp charter - ken you signed that doc in l999 - maybe roger henry can tellme why you sold my horses - and you cut goober on 6-22-02 - and I have a witness - and her telephone number that she was there you cut my horse - you have no isnurance to pay for what you did - and your scum bag wife has no clue as to what she is doing -

I want and demand that trr return my horses - and ken you ahve done this all by yourself - I did not bad mouth you - see anyone who knows me knows that I will fight anyone who abuses and animal - who has no clue as to what you are doing - I hold a licnese in the stat eof nh since l984 - 20 years ken - I am not some scum bag two bit low life horses theif from arizona - go back to where you came from after you retrun my horses - and I found one of your adoptees - she was sold - and traded - you won't abuse me kne terry - you and the good pastor skip payette a wesleyan minister hav eno clue as to what you are doing - you are both wife abusers and hate single women who know more than you do and you don't know much - so rebut the state law ken - rebut it - and on your web site - you only published 1/2 the story - your own lawyer changed it so you could steal and sellmy horses -
I have that doc in writing and signed my katherine lord klein - I tried to pay you but you refeused my money ken - YOU AND YOU ALONE REFUED MY MONEY AND THE TWO WITNEESS were the cheif of police bruce newtown and craig mcdonald - that is the scam - ms klein changed that agreemetn - that is illegal - she knew it and just got caught but that is what you paid her to do -- and lets go back to courtken - I welcome the challenge - like you are tyring to sue me for defamation of character - you don't have one to defame pal - and you lost not once but twice - NOT ONCE BUT TWICE -

so this is a public forum - ken produce the docs - please - my lawyer has them in his office - your wife should know him elliott fine - after allshe got into my e mail account not once but TWICE - ken stop with the victim crap -

I am the victim - you ruined my horse, took allmy money - sold them for big $$ - and that is how I make my living - I don't steal clocks from people or horses or $$ - the 300k stuff - come on now, mary does not make that kind of $$ - if she does then why do allof your checks bounce - and stop on travis - you screwed him over also - see mary is the one who told himt hat you took 6000 out of the rescue money to go on y0our bender - your own wife - now come on ken give her another black eye - she might look good with a matching pair -

and have the good pastor forgive you ans he is a victim also - see he shut the wanter off on 7 horses - and he did that without notice - that is illegal also - but he above the law just like poor ken terry - oh me!
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#43 REBUTTAL Individual responds

The Facts according to New Hampshire Court System!!!

AUTHOR: Kenneth Terry - (U.S.A.)

Please check our website: www.turtlerockrescue.org and click on the links for the court cases. You can make your own decisions from there. As far as putting in over 300K, it is not required to list it as anything. With people like Travis and Susan badmouthing us, however, we won't have to put as much of our own money into the organization, as their publicity is helping us tremendously. They sound more and more far-fetched everytime they open their mouths that people are actually feeling sorry for us for the "crap" that we have to put up with from people who have nothing better to do in life! We will continue to do what we've been doing.

As far as sex offender and wife beater, they really should watch out as there are no such records reflecting anything of the same nature. This will also be decided in a court of law. If anyone has further questions, please contact the rescue and the number on the website.

Thank you,

President
Turtle Rock Rescue, Inc.
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#44 Consumer Comment

Some people don't write it off!

AUTHOR: N - (U.S.A.)

Gee, some people don't write off deductions if they don't need to.

And gee travis, you were only an ad hoc member of the board for one special project.....better get you facts straight!
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#45 UPDATE EX-employee responds

300K donation

AUTHOR: Travis - (U.S.A.)

I'm an Ex-board member,

There is no way Mr or Mrs. Terry donated 300K, Mary works for a non-profit in MA, and Kenneth dose not work he just spends the money like it water flowing from the faucet. Inorder for Mary to give the rescue 300K that would break down to 60K a year and with all there bills she should have to make over 120K a year to just live. I could be wrong she may make over htat but the last time I knew she was making 65K a year. You can't live on 5k a year.

If Mary is making 120K or more from this non-profit I will be e-mailing the State of MA, as her non-profit is pay by the State of MA.
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#46 Author of original report

additional information for sherri

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

if you checked their tax returns - there is no presonal "300,000' by kenneth j and mary love terry - it is all 'doanted money' - if you chekc their tax records - they spent non of their own money - what they declared and waht they say are two different things - since turtle rock rescue is a public 50lc non for profit charity I have asked the Internal Revenue for a copy of all the horses that were 'doanted to' and 'adopted from' their organization for the years 2002 and 2003 - see contrary to mary terry's statments - it is a public charity started with a grant and public donations to help equines - not support kenneth j terry and mary l terry - even the animal control person for the town of fitzwilliam nh was against giving them a permit to operate - because they are con men and in this for themselves only - so if my horses were donated to turtle rock - then there should be a record - see I did not give them anything - on that statment that ken's alwyer had me sign ther eis the word 'title' see horses don't have 'titles' or 'title' - they have a bill of sale and a registration certificate - see I ahve both - the court did not give them anything they pulled a scam on me and fearing the 'killing' of my horses - I went along with their lawyer (who can go to jail along with ken and mary for this, by the way) - and the registrry has been notified that the animals are stolen - and then there is their 2003 income tax return - the 42,000 horse from florida that needed 42,000 at the rochester equine clinic - I have asked congressman bass office to get the records from this 'non profit public charity' - if the horse had to come to new hamsphire from floida for surgery, it would have been dead before it left ocala (reddick) florida - see ken took 6000 of donated money and went on a bender and covered it up with a 'cow resuce' in montana - it is on their web page of 'where we have been' - and like the horse with the 42k worth of colic surgery the cows would have been dead before ken got to montana to resuce them - it was a cover up for a 6000 bender to las vegas with karin austin's husband - and ken took his daughter to csu where she is in vet tech school - ken does not have gas money to do a rescue - he either drinks it or snorts it - the rescue is a cover to support mary'sother business 'grandview farm equestrian' in jaffrey nh - she had a constant supply of nice horses to sell - and the other thing is that they don't care where the horses go as long as they get the $400.00 for them - no concern for the welfare of the horse one bit - that is why the gelded my horse in june - the hight of bug season - ken is luck that goober did not die from the infection that he and his quack vet gave the horse when they cut his balls off - right kenny - I did not give him 'title' to the horses for the bill - I did not give them their papers or a bill of sale (both of which are in my bank box) - I was not threatened with arrest, threatened to be shot at, have a restaraining order on, harassed at work and got into my e mail account (like mary did ) and ken and mary should check the facts as they are nothing more than scam artists and horse thieves - period and end of discussion - and hopefully the irs will shut them down - but mary won'tbe able to keep their new morton barns and new indoor that is being built as the buildings will have to be bought at 'fari market value' and or 'doanted to anyother charity' - but ken and mary do what they want with other people's property and sell it like the clocks that werer left at ken's shop for repair - they ended up on e bay being sold in the name of turtle rock rescue - and then he bought scuba gear - horses are good swimmers, ken - even cats both large and small are good swimmers -
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#47 Consumer Comment

the rest of the story

AUTHOR: Sue - (U.S.A.)

to sherri

see sherri there was no board due as the landlord shut the water off and did not tell anyone that he did it - there is a state law in nh rsa 540 about termination of utilities and the landlord fapayette did so anyway - he wanted me to give him 5000 for 1/2 of his new well (he testified to that fact under oath) - and I paid him for the months of 8/01 - 9/01 and he refused the money on l0/01 (I have a copy of a statement from him) -

he tried to sue me in district court for 6800 +/- in back rent but the other district court told him that he could not claim rent after that date l0/01 - when the turtle rock folks stole my horses they were told that I owed back rent but I did not - ken and mary are so stupid that they did not read the paperwork - ken just found 7 horses that they could sell for big $$ - and when I went to get them and pay the board (see I did not sign the contract for service - someone else did - and in contract law it the person who signs the contract as neither party had any legal authority to sign the cotnract for me) -

again ken listened to a minister who has no clue as to what he is doing and just wanted to make a huge scene in taking my horses from me - and then the minister person filed a false police report with the town of fitzwilliam (I have a copy of that) ken again hustled me for my hroses - and then on 6-22-02 they gelded my stallion - not the property owner's horse (even trr was told that the horse belongdd to payette) - see I have all the reg papers -

payette took me to court for 'reasons other than non payment of rent' but told terry that I owed him big $$ and never paid him - what I did for payette was in return for the other horse that I boarded, I took care of his horse ie hay, grain, shavings and turn out, blacksmith care, shots - but payette never paid me - I also looked after his small animals when they went away on vacation for 3 weeks with no notice, kepts his toddler kids frombeing hit by a car when he went to the dump without notice and up and left - see it is a control issue - both of these males are abusive, payette's wife died under wierd circumstances - his new one is scared of him -

terry is the same way - wife beater, sex offender, drunkard - both know nothing about horses or the horse business - and when I paid payette for property damage that was done in l980 (my horses were there from l999 to 2002 by the way) he cashed an unsigned check with 'thanks' on the back (I ahve a copy of that) - as far as giving my horses to trr for the bill - don't know why the lawyer chased me for the bill - she told me that the horses were going to be killed one time and then refused the moneyon 7-17-02 so I have no clue as to why terry is evening questioning this - and she made a deal with me (I have a copy of that doc also and it is going to be posted on trr.net soon) she is terry's employee and agent so he should have known that she did this - and Terry refused the money on 7-24-02 and I have a statement from the shipper, craig mcdonald -

see terry is a felon someplace else and did not want to get caught with stolen property that he has since sold (as it is like the clock shop that he had) and the scuba gear that he purchased on e bay int he name of the resuce) - so my guess is that he has no insurance to pay for the stud that they gelded - mary did this to someone befor ein az and they had to leave the state - or ken did not want to get caught with stolen property -

I have sent a letter to their trustee in az and hopefully he will start paying for my horses - payette is being sued in manchester superior court for what he did - the lawyer has the docs - if terry had talked to me or read the paperwork then there would be no problem - as castration is not part of a boarding contract neitehr is horse theft -

I dont' understand these folks - on one hand ken signed a contract to 'board horses' and mary says to every one that trr does not 'board horses' - is that like she has been in to my e mail account - sending nasty stuff to people - see I am a licensed horse person in nh (2 of them since l984) - ken and mary are not horse people -

just out to make a $$on whatever they can hustle or sell - you should not make such statements as I have tried to pay the bill for my horses but each time it was refues for a variety of reasons - most of it is a male control issue - and ken gets a high hustling a single woman - semiller
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#48 Consumer Comment

HORSES ARE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN

AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)

Susan, almost all of the farms/boarding facilities want their money before you remove the horses from the premises. It is the only security they have that they will recoup their losses. I am a race horse owner myself, and know that the same thing applies to removing your horses from the track..the trainers want their day money and other bills paid before removing a horse from the track and/or releasing the horses papers.

Also, if you don't pay the trainer or vet bills, you can also get ruled off. I understand you being upset about losing your horses, but it sounds to me as if you are a bit over your head maintaining a race horse and trying to pay farm bills. They didn't "steal" your horses; they took action to cure a default in your agreement to pay.
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horses were removed via court order

AUTHOR: Mary - (U.S.A.)

Ms. Millers horses were removed via court order, check out court documents www.turtlerockrescue.org

You should check your facts prior to posting slanderous information. Founders have put over 300,000 of their own money into this horse rescue.
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