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Complaint Review: Nevada Corporate Headquarters | Ripoff Report Verified™ …businesses you can trust. Nevada Corporate Headquarters provides formation of Nevada corporations, Nevada LLC creation, asset protection strategies, many other business & financial services. Nevada Corporate Headquarters Incorporated (NCH), business start up specialist in Nevada for over twenty years. NCH formed over 60,000 business entities worldwide with nationwide reputation for assisting entrepreneurs, corporations, & licensed professionals.

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  • Submitted: Thu, June 01, 2006
  • Updated: Sat, August 16, 2014

  • Reported By:las vegas Nevada
Nevada Corporate Headquarters, NCH
101 Convention Center Drive Ste 700 Las Vegas, Nevada U.S.A.

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EDitor’s UPDATE: Positive rating and recognition has been given to Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. for its commitment to excellence in customer service.

Ripoff Report’s discussions with Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc.have uncovered an ongoing commitment by the company to total client satisfaction. This means that clients can expect that the company will work towards finding a mutually satisfactory resolution to any complaints or concerns. Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. listens carefully to client concerns and sees them as an opportunity to learn from past mistakes and become more efficient as a company in the services offered and the support for those services.

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc.’s principal, Mr. Cort Christie, has informed us that his personal philosophy is that his clients are a precious resource. [continued below]....
..... As a successful businessman, Mr. Christie feels it is critical to listen to his clients and respond properly. By always putting his clients first, Mr. Christie hopes to maintain Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. as the primary source for incorporation and small business services, both now and for many years to come.

The information provided in this report below is based on comments made by Jessica Loggins during an on-site inspection held by a third party verification company with no biases toward the Nevada Corporate Headquarters.

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The Nevada Corporate Headquarters has been the source for Nevada corporations, Nevada LLCs, asset protection strategies, business credit establishment and many other business/financial services. It also provides incorporation services, access to websites, and small business credit building.

According to Jessica Loggins, a representative of the company, all leads are generated online. Nevada Corporate Headquarters doesn’t do “cold calling” of any kind. Potential clients will indicate interest by responding to advertising or internet marketing. Nevada Corporate Headquarters will only contact someone if they have expressed an interest in and a desire to be contacted. After expressing interest in Nevada Corporate Headquarters products/services, either by calling the company or being called, Nevada Corporates staff will explain the company’s products and services and answer any and all questions that the person may have.



Nevada Corporate Headquarters then will have a corporate consultant speak with the customer. During this conversation the client will be assigned a customer service representative to walk the client through the rest of the process and verify all information, including invoicing. According to Ms. Loggins this is an important part of the process for the customer to ensure the client knows exactly what services are being provided. The staff will provide customers with information about the current pricing for incorporating business or looking for asset protection strategies.

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. Customer Care & Complaint Resolution

Commonly, miscommunication is one of the major complaints Nevada Corporate Headquarters receives. In this instance the client would call in and leave a voicemail and never get a follow up call. Due to it being in a que where there was no one particularly assigned to a certain message the calls weren’t properly followed up on. In response Nevada Corporate Headquarters’ staff started a voicemail system that is routed through one individual, and then passed messages to the particular employee it pertains to. The customers were completely satisfied with the resolution, according to Ms. Loggins. Ms. Loggins also noted that since the installment of the customer service protocol there have been no such complaints since. After an issue is resolved, Nevada Corporate Headquarters has a “follow system” in place that ensures the customer is contacted after the issue is resolved to ensure they are satisfied with the resolution.

Nevada Corporate Headquarters is registered under Commercial Registered Agent Certification, FICO Pro Certifications, and Certified Asset Protection. Nevada Corporate also offers CPA’s and an in house lawyer. Ms. Loggins wanted to relay the information that before a customer agrees to do business with the company the client in informed about what exactly their money down is going towards. Also, the client is informed up front about the finances needed to cover the plan set aside for that particular company. Nevada Corporate Headquarters believes most complaints have come from former employees. Lastly, the company has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau.

Ms. Loggins says that as a result of the complaints, the Nevada Corporate Headquarters has implemented several changes to help increase the quality of its customers’ experience. One of the changes being the voicemail system. This increase ensures messages left are being directed to the right employee. Ultimately resulting in answered calls, which before would go unanswered. time. Investors must be able to assume the risk of such price fluctuations.

Ms. Loggins and her team recognize the value of working with Ripoff Report and the Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program, and the platform it provides for businesses and clients to interact and resolve issues. She states Nevada Corporate Headquarters would like to see complaints come to an end resulting in better customer satisfaction. Also, resulting is better company creditability. The Nevada Corporate Headquarters was first established in 1989 and is stated to be Nevada’s largest business start-up firm with more than 60,000 businesses launched.

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. / Statements from the owner.

"My name is Cort Christie, President and Founder of Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. Thank you for taking the time to review Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. Here at NCH, we pride ourselves in our excellent customer service and truly live by our company values: Service Excellence, Teamwork, Ownership, Respect, and Integrity. Our motto is to Deliver the WOW and we do so by giving each and every client a WOW experience. We take the time to listen and assist our clients in every aspect of new business start-up. I invite you to contact our office to experience the level of service we can deliver and truly realize why our company is superior to the rest.”

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. takes employee satisfaction seriously as well. Employee feedback and surveys reveal comments such as this: "Nevada Corporate Headquarters provides a safe and fun work environment. I know that I am a valuable team member because they strive to encourage and support me each and every day. We have a very strong company culture and an amazing motto, Deliver the WOW.” Ripoff Report was pleased to learn that Nevada Corporate Headquarters’ past and current approach to business is focused on its pledge to total commitment towards client and employee satisfaction.



STATED IMPROVEMENTS FROM Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc..

"Not ever willing to just stay put, Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. is constantly looking for ways to do things better, to be more efficient, and to deliver an even higher quality customer experience. We have invested tens of thousands of dollars to employee training, hardware and software upgrades, and emerging technologies to ensure that every customer is treated like royalty and advances down the critical path towards business success. Our high touch customer service is unparalleled anywhere and assists clients in dreaming, believing, and achieving their lifelong goals.

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc (NCH) has been the business start-up and corporate formation specialist in Nevada for over twenty years. NCH is the fastest-growing resident agent in Nevada and has helped over 60,000 business entities worldwide. The full array of products, from formation of Nevada Corporations and LLCs to asset protection strategies and consulting, combined with their highly qualified customer service staff provides individuals with the solutions a business needs to succeed in the corporate world. Nevada Corporate Headquarters is dedicated to providing the highest standard of customer service to obtain 100% client satisfaction.

The majority of our complaints are dated pre 2012 before we made a huge shift in customer service at our company. First, we instituted a new set of company values and motto, “Deliver the Wow!” Our primary focus is 100% customer satisfaction and we take every customer issue extremely serious; nothing is too big or small. The complaints also center around either a denied refund request and being dissatisfied with a certain product we sell, business credit building. We have made numerous changes in this area to tighten up setting expectations on this program. Now, qualifications and requirements are clearly defined in our product description. By making this shift, we were able to significantly reduce any customer issues.

The majority of our competitors are online retailers who provide little or no consultation with customers. We take a different approach – one-on-one coaching and support to every client. Our focus is to provide a hand-holding experience where we don’t leave the guess work to the client. We help in completing all paperwork and continue with consulting for an entire year. The client is able to call their assigned Corporate Coach at any time.”

Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. recognizes that complaints posted on Ripoff Report (whether true or not) are issues that need to be addressed, not ignored. If handled correctly, complaints can be valuable learning opportunities. With the feedback generated by Ripoff Report’s review, Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc.has made organizational changes allowing its clients and employees a more streamlined approach to problem resolution and a commitment to a great client experience.



In summary, after our review, which included discussions with Mr. Christie, Ripoff Report is convinced that Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. is committed to quality delivery of services resulting in total client satisfaction.

Read more about why consumers should feel confident when doing business with a member of Ripoff Report's Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. Yes, it’s a long name for a program that does a lot for both consumers and businesses alike.

Read about Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program, a program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. this program works.

As a matter of policy, when a business becomes a member of the Corporate Advocacy Program they agree to allow Ripoff Report to contact every client who filed a complaint so they can make things right with them. In order to confirm that the complaints were resolved, Ripoff Report is copied on all responses so we can insure that the member business did right by their customer.

NOW TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WAS FILED

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Nevada Corporate Headquarters, NCH rips off clients, employees, anyone Las Vegas Nevada

This company advertises nationwide over several radio stations, including Michael Savage. This company will screw over its clients and employees. For example, a consultant will tell its client (who is merely thinking of starting a business) that he or she needs to have a corporation, corporate credit, a family security trust, a LLLP, and so on. This client is only THINKING about going into business.

The consultant will then push the client to buy right then and there for thousands. In case anyone who is reading this is unaware, a LLLP (Limited Liability Limited Partnership) is a legal entity set up to hold 1% of the stock of the newborn company, with the other 99% being held in the FST (Family Security Trust). Now WHY would someone need all of this when their corporate stock is worth absolutely nothing? The entities that they set up are also rarely set up correctly.

The credit program -- they don't actually have any proof that it works. They guarantee that you will have a AAA credit score in anywhere from 4-12 months for a small fee of either $2000 or $4000, or anywhere inbetween. How do they know the person has this credit score when they won't even pull the credit for the client to prove it and no one has finished the program?

The clients believe the consultants so much that several of them will be digging into their 401k or any kind of retirement fund just to pay for these entities. They advertise on the radio for corporate credit and a free book, only they won't send the free book if they don't think the person is going to buy.

The sales people will do anything to get the sale... anything, even insulting the potential client. The reason behind this is that they have a quota of $8000 for the week and if not reached, the consultant is fired and told "it's just not working out". Employees are fired on a weekly basis.

There are about five people who have worked for this company more than a year, or even a year. They will fire people for any reason and give the reason that it's just not working out. The level of professionalism is unbelievable. The sales manager comes into the morning meeting usually swearing at the employees, setting a horrible example.

I would like to let everyone know that this company steals from anyone they can. They are the most unethical company I have ever been in contact with. I hope this helps anyone who reads it.

Also, if you need to set up a corporation and you want to do it in Nevada, just go to the Nevada Secretary of State website and they can guide you. If you're looking for business credit, go to Dun and Bradstreet directly.

Katie
las vegas, Nevada
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/01/2006 09:27 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Nevada-Corporate-Headquarters-NCH/Las-Vegas-Nevada-89109/Nevada-Corporate-Headquarters-NCH-rips-off-clients-employees-anyone-Las-Vegas-Nevada-194373. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

Do not do business

AUTHOR: FK - (United States of America)

Do not deal with Nevada Corporate Headquarters in Las Vegas, NV or Corporate Services Center in Reno, NV, the former founded by Cort W. Christie of Reno, NV, the latter established by Derek Rowely of Bloomington, UT. Both these founders are conmen.


I am a Ventura County, CA attorney who was a former federal Department of Justice prosecutor and represents over a dozen of California business owners ripped off by these two scam artists, businesses ranging from Healdburg, CA to Merced, CA down to San Diego, CA. These victims of Meesrs. Christie and Rowley have been cheated out of their businesses, fraudulent tax returns filed with the IRS and the Franchise Tax Board in California; the fraud having begin many years ago when a Ms. Nina Gallagher was the tax manager of their tax preparation division. We have in our possession fadulent tax returns signed by Ms. Gallagher.


Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. and Corporate Services Center are merely boiler room operations. Their salesmen know neither the law nor taxes. Instead, these companies set up tax evasion frauds specializing in state tax evasion. Steven J. Szostek is responsible for setting up dubious business entity networks, which costs the victims of tens of thousands of dollars.


The final team member, a Terrence Novack, a former conartist himself, calls himself the CEO of the Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc. is in reality a thug who takes pleasure in making threats. My final comment is directed to Mr. Novack. If you ever threaten my family, my wife again, I will personally hold YOU responsible for any injuries you inflict, either psychological or physical and promptly charge you with a criminal and tort offense. You will no longer harass my family again. You will not approach my family, and if you come within 100 miles of my family, I will defend them, understood.


To all considering doing business with Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc or Corporate Services Center, stay away from these conmen. If you have had trouble, please contact the FBI, who has an open case on Nevada Corporate Headquarters, Inc, Corporate Services Center, Messrs. Cort Christie, Derek Rowley and Terrence Novack. If you have been defrauded in one of their tax products, please contact the Las Vegas office of the Internal Revenue Service. You also have recourse with the Nevada Attorneys General Office.

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#2 Consumer Comment

NCH Undoubtedly a SCAM

AUTHOR: Jim Williams - (USA)

  Do not get involved with these people.  I spoke with a rep., Lonny Wesimann (at least that is what he said his name was) who claimed to be some sort of dept. head since he had a whole 10 years of experience.  He answered several of my questions and once I told him that I wanted to think about it and talk to my lawyer he attempted every high pressure close in the book - felt like I was buying a used car.  He proceeded to claim that he had such vast knowledge in the field that he could "bury" any lawyer or CPA on the subject. 

  I don't like to hang up on anyone no matter who they are so, I told him no less than 10 times that I wanted to think about it and that I would call him back, although he was sure that I would never call back.  This only fueled his arrogance and finally prompted him to tell me that if I did call again, he would make a note by my name that none of his sales people were to accept my $997.00 if I decided to use them - he then hung up on me.  If he was so sure I would never call back why did he say that?  I would really like to see one of their salepeople actually refuse a payment from anyone!  He also claimed that the time he spent with me on the phone he normally charged $250.00 and hour for, however he did fail to tell me what type of qualifications he had to charge such a rate.  Another claim he made was that NCH only would make $50 of the deal!

  He clearly did not want me to get off the phone and check into his company on sites such as this as then he knew I would never call back.  Lonny is as fine an example of a con man who is so stupid they think everyone else is stupid.

  FYI - Any legitimate salesperson/business will after 2 or 3 "no's" accept the "no" and will not fear for what you may find once you get of the phone or walk away from them.  if you did happened to speak with these people - hopefully you didn't give them any $ - if you did, dispute the charge immediately with your credit card company and they will see that you get your $ back - even the all knowing Lonny is no match for the credit card companies.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Alternative and Trustworthy Incorporation Services

AUTHOR: Mental Midget Observer - (USA)

I find your opportunistic posting very unprofessional.  That makes you the equivalent of being an ambulance chaser. 

Do you crawl through the postings looking for opportunities?  Look up the difference of "entrepreneur vs. opportunist."

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#4 Consumer Comment

Alternative and Trustworthy Incorporation Services

AUTHOR: Mental Midget Observer - (USA)

I find your opportunistic posting very unprofessional.  That makes you the equivalent of being an ambulance chaser. 

Do you crawl through the postings looking for opportunities?  Look up the difference of "entrepreneur vs. opportunist."

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Alternative and Trustworthy Incorporation Services

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

I'm president of Nationwide Incorporators and an attorney since 1972. Since starting my company in 1996 and exclusively providing entity formation services, I have been contacted by many former clients of NCH and similar NV-based incorporation services that promise tax advantages by incorporating in NV, misleading claims about privacy of officers, directors and shareholders, and unrealistic claims about obtaining credit lines for clients. Quite simply, there is absolutely NO tax advantage to incorporating in NV UNLESS the business is based and operates in NV! If the business in based in any other state and incorporates in NV, the business will still be subject to taxation in its home state--PERIOD! Confirm this with any accountant or tax attorney.

As an attorney, I can and do provide straightforward advice about advantages and disadvantages of S and C corporations, LLCs and other entities. Phone consultations are free, and information is also free to clients anytime after I form an entity for them. My company personalizes all forms and documents and processes with federal and state agencies. Everything is done completely and professionally. Feel free to contact Mike Ross at (800) 503-4443 or visit www.nationwide-incorporators.com.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Thanks. I thought that was the story with NCH

AUTHOR: Gayle - (U.S.A.)

I know that you can incorporate via the internet through the Secretary of State's office for about $150. I wondered what all the hype was. I will save a bundle now. Appreciate the info.
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#7 Consumer Comment

I'm pulling my account

AUTHOR: Rob - (U.S.A.)

Holy moolly.

I've been reading the posts and am a current client of Nevada Corporate Headquarters and Integrated Tax Solutions who does my corporation and personal income taxes. I never realized the anger and level of unprofessionalism there. I doubt that my account is being professionally handles. I have my doubts and fears, now. My New York tax return was not filed properly and was corrected by an excellent employee at ITS in December who followed through and is no longer there. When I asked I was told he had a family emergency and had to leave. Hmmmm. Sounds like a lie to me and obviously canned. I'm pulling my account, now because of a lack of response.

I attended the boot camp and never realized Cort's history. I do not want to be associated with a scum bag like this. He came off as friendly, but, wow, what a black history. Thank you Scotty, very much. I read your links. And, thabk you Katie. There's problems there.

The responses by the person called Sunshine tells me there's problems there. What I read, I'm pulling all my accounts and going with a competitor. If Sunshine, certainly an employee of Nevada Corporate Headquarters' attitude is any indications, I'm telling friends to leave and pull their accounts, too. Sunshine has a hateful attitude, not telling of a company that wants tro serve its clients. Sunshine shape up, or the management there should ship you out. Sunshine you have a bad attitude. Holy macrical. And, they keep you on there? Tell me a lot about Nevada Corporate Headquarters.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

Sunshine, you just showed your ignorance. Anthony and you cannot provide facts, just attack.

And, your post made very litte logical sense. I do stand corrected, the change of name was not $800, it is $880. The form is less than a page long.

In the Corporate Boot Camps, a two day seminar that clients of NCH purchase, blatantly false tax advice is provided. The following is a sample of NCH's tax advice:

1) You can deduct personal entertainment, travel and meals by claiming that everyone you meet is a potential client.

2) All expenses, many personal are deductible. Blatantly wrong. A clear business purpose and profit motive must exist in order to take the expense. The legitimate expenses to generate the business income are deductible.

3) You can deduct your child as an employee business expense. Mr. Rossi suggested to one client that this client hire his one year old infant as an employee and not only could he deduct the salary expense, but also the client's child care expenses. What can a one year old infant be doing for a home based business to receive the salary. There is also the kiddie tax to deal with, however no sales person at NCH will tell you about that little detail.

4) Mr. Rossi also advised a client that I was trying to correct his mis-information that all medical expenses, including health care premiums were deductible by the owners of the corporation. It turned out that the husband was covered by a state plan and those premiums are not deductible.

5) This pearl of wisdom from Mr. Cort W. Christie to a client at one corporate Boot Camp which I overheard. He advised a client to deduct his horse and all the related expenses by using the animal in the client's sales brochure.

6) One client who owned a farm, because of the incorrect advice provided by the sales staff was under audit to have his farm expenses re-characterized as hobby income. None of the professionals at ITS nor NCH caught this. The IRS decided to include years beyond the scope of the audit, which they are permitted to do. The result is fines and penalties. The current VP of ITS believed this audit to be frivolous. Unfortunately there are guidelines the IRS uses that the taxpayer must pass. It was not a frivolous audit.

7) Another client was trying to claim as a legitimate expense, what he lost with the NADN scam, and there are guidelines for this specific scam. This is where I finally got wind the complexity of this NADN/NCH/ITS scam. The official story at NCH, when I inquired was that NADN was in no way connected with NCH. It was a business that NCH outsourced to provide tax returns and one of NADN's corporate officers got in trouble with the IRS because he was corrupt. A simple web search certainly proves that incorrect.

The first people you speak to at NCH are NOT tax and business professionals. They are sales people who have been trained to sell you their product, which may or may not fill your needs. Most of the time you will be oversold business entities which you don't need. One product is their so-called family fortress. Beware of this product.

When opening up any corporate structure, people ought to use their common sense: the fact that a scheme is advertised on the radio or Internet, or sold by a large company, that claims it has been around for years and has 30,000 clients doesn't make it legitimate. The books provided to potential clients are self published and written by the owners years ago. There is no peer review and the information provided is not accurate, especially with recent trends from the IRS.

No matter how slick the sales pitch, small business owners and entrepreneurs, and taxpayers should be wary of anyone promising to eliminate their taxes or 100% protection from creditors and lawsuits. There's no such thing. Building credit, for example, which potential clients are advised to separate the owner from the corporation is another solution offered by NCH. Banks are not stupid. They check out the credit worthiness of the corporate officers and founders. And, if the business structure is overly complicated, it sends up red flags.

Do your research before signing at the dotted line or giving your credit card information over the phone to a sales person. The sales force at NCH is trained to obtain your credit card information to make a sale. That's the number they're looking for from you. And, since the founder of NCH was involved in the NADN scam, would you trust your business or personal information to NCH, and your business future to this company?

Check out the ethics of the person who founded NCH. Do an Internet search on him. Again, use your common sense. Most people go into business to be successful. The fiduciary relationship with your Accountant and financial advisor is a very important one. Don't get caught up into believing that owning a series of Nevada corporations, LLC's and LLLP's will solve your problems. They will in fact generally create more problems.

These web sites should prove useful as you do your due diligence to form the proper entity for your business and to determine if a Nevada entity is right for you:
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/STMTBurgessIRS.pdf
http://www.gtlaw.com/pub/alerts/2006/1200b.pdf
http://apbook.com/apblog/2006_11_01_archive.html
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AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

Sunshine, you just showed your ignorance. Anthony and you cannot provide facts, just attack.

And, your post made very litte logical sense. I do stand corrected, the change of name was not $800, it is $880. The form is less than a page long.

In the Corporate Boot Camps, a two day seminar that clients of NCH purchase, blatantly false tax advice is provided. The following is a sample of NCH's tax advice:

1) You can deduct personal entertainment, travel and meals by claiming that everyone you meet is a potential client.

2) All expenses, many personal are deductible. Blatantly wrong. A clear business purpose and profit motive must exist in order to take the expense. The legitimate expenses to generate the business income are deductible.

3) You can deduct your child as an employee business expense. Mr. Rossi suggested to one client that this client hire his one year old infant as an employee and not only could he deduct the salary expense, but also the client's child care expenses. What can a one year old infant be doing for a home based business to receive the salary. There is also the kiddie tax to deal with, however no sales person at NCH will tell you about that little detail.

4) Mr. Rossi also advised a client that I was trying to correct his mis-information that all medical expenses, including health care premiums were deductible by the owners of the corporation. It turned out that the husband was covered by a state plan and those premiums are not deductible.

5) This pearl of wisdom from Mr. Cort W. Christie to a client at one corporate Boot Camp which I overheard. He advised a client to deduct his horse and all the related expenses by using the animal in the client's sales brochure.

6) One client who owned a farm, because of the incorrect advice provided by the sales staff was under audit to have his farm expenses re-characterized as hobby income. None of the professionals at ITS nor NCH caught this. The IRS decided to include years beyond the scope of the audit, which they are permitted to do. The result is fines and penalties. The current VP of ITS believed this audit to be frivolous. Unfortunately there are guidelines the IRS uses that the taxpayer must pass. It was not a frivolous audit.

7) Another client was trying to claim as a legitimate expense, what he lost with the NADN scam, and there are guidelines for this specific scam. This is where I finally got wind the complexity of this NADN/NCH/ITS scam. The official story at NCH, when I inquired was that NADN was in no way connected with NCH. It was a business that NCH outsourced to provide tax returns and one of NADN's corporate officers got in trouble with the IRS because he was corrupt. A simple web search certainly proves that incorrect.

The first people you speak to at NCH are NOT tax and business professionals. They are sales people who have been trained to sell you their product, which may or may not fill your needs. Most of the time you will be oversold business entities which you don't need. One product is their so-called family fortress. Beware of this product.

When opening up any corporate structure, people ought to use their common sense: the fact that a scheme is advertised on the radio or Internet, or sold by a large company, that claims it has been around for years and has 30,000 clients doesn't make it legitimate. The books provided to potential clients are self published and written by the owners years ago. There is no peer review and the information provided is not accurate, especially with recent trends from the IRS.

No matter how slick the sales pitch, small business owners and entrepreneurs, and taxpayers should be wary of anyone promising to eliminate their taxes or 100% protection from creditors and lawsuits. There's no such thing. Building credit, for example, which potential clients are advised to separate the owner from the corporation is another solution offered by NCH. Banks are not stupid. They check out the credit worthiness of the corporate officers and founders. And, if the business structure is overly complicated, it sends up red flags.

Do your research before signing at the dotted line or giving your credit card information over the phone to a sales person. The sales force at NCH is trained to obtain your credit card information to make a sale. That's the number they're looking for from you. And, since the founder of NCH was involved in the NADN scam, would you trust your business or personal information to NCH, and your business future to this company?

Check out the ethics of the person who founded NCH. Do an Internet search on him. Again, use your common sense. Most people go into business to be successful. The fiduciary relationship with your Accountant and financial advisor is a very important one. Don't get caught up into believing that owning a series of Nevada corporations, LLC's and LLLP's will solve your problems. They will in fact generally create more problems.

These web sites should prove useful as you do your due diligence to form the proper entity for your business and to determine if a Nevada entity is right for you:
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/STMTBurgessIRS.pdf
http://www.gtlaw.com/pub/alerts/2006/1200b.pdf
http://apbook.com/apblog/2006_11_01_archive.html
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

Sunshine, you just showed your ignorance. Anthony and you cannot provide facts, just attack.

And, your post made very litte logical sense. I do stand corrected, the change of name was not $800, it is $880. The form is less than a page long.

In the Corporate Boot Camps, a two day seminar that clients of NCH purchase, blatantly false tax advice is provided. The following is a sample of NCH's tax advice:

1) You can deduct personal entertainment, travel and meals by claiming that everyone you meet is a potential client.

2) All expenses, many personal are deductible. Blatantly wrong. A clear business purpose and profit motive must exist in order to take the expense. The legitimate expenses to generate the business income are deductible.

3) You can deduct your child as an employee business expense. Mr. Rossi suggested to one client that this client hire his one year old infant as an employee and not only could he deduct the salary expense, but also the client's child care expenses. What can a one year old infant be doing for a home based business to receive the salary. There is also the kiddie tax to deal with, however no sales person at NCH will tell you about that little detail.

4) Mr. Rossi also advised a client that I was trying to correct his mis-information that all medical expenses, including health care premiums were deductible by the owners of the corporation. It turned out that the husband was covered by a state plan and those premiums are not deductible.

5) This pearl of wisdom from Mr. Cort W. Christie to a client at one corporate Boot Camp which I overheard. He advised a client to deduct his horse and all the related expenses by using the animal in the client's sales brochure.

6) One client who owned a farm, because of the incorrect advice provided by the sales staff was under audit to have his farm expenses re-characterized as hobby income. None of the professionals at ITS nor NCH caught this. The IRS decided to include years beyond the scope of the audit, which they are permitted to do. The result is fines and penalties. The current VP of ITS believed this audit to be frivolous. Unfortunately there are guidelines the IRS uses that the taxpayer must pass. It was not a frivolous audit.

7) Another client was trying to claim as a legitimate expense, what he lost with the NADN scam, and there are guidelines for this specific scam. This is where I finally got wind the complexity of this NADN/NCH/ITS scam. The official story at NCH, when I inquired was that NADN was in no way connected with NCH. It was a business that NCH outsourced to provide tax returns and one of NADN's corporate officers got in trouble with the IRS because he was corrupt. A simple web search certainly proves that incorrect.

The first people you speak to at NCH are NOT tax and business professionals. They are sales people who have been trained to sell you their product, which may or may not fill your needs. Most of the time you will be oversold business entities which you don't need. One product is their so-called family fortress. Beware of this product.

When opening up any corporate structure, people ought to use their common sense: the fact that a scheme is advertised on the radio or Internet, or sold by a large company, that claims it has been around for years and has 30,000 clients doesn't make it legitimate. The books provided to potential clients are self published and written by the owners years ago. There is no peer review and the information provided is not accurate, especially with recent trends from the IRS.

No matter how slick the sales pitch, small business owners and entrepreneurs, and taxpayers should be wary of anyone promising to eliminate their taxes or 100% protection from creditors and lawsuits. There's no such thing. Building credit, for example, which potential clients are advised to separate the owner from the corporation is another solution offered by NCH. Banks are not stupid. They check out the credit worthiness of the corporate officers and founders. And, if the business structure is overly complicated, it sends up red flags.

Do your research before signing at the dotted line or giving your credit card information over the phone to a sales person. The sales force at NCH is trained to obtain your credit card information to make a sale. That's the number they're looking for from you. And, since the founder of NCH was involved in the NADN scam, would you trust your business or personal information to NCH, and your business future to this company?

Check out the ethics of the person who founded NCH. Do an Internet search on him. Again, use your common sense. Most people go into business to be successful. The fiduciary relationship with your Accountant and financial advisor is a very important one. Don't get caught up into believing that owning a series of Nevada corporations, LLC's and LLLP's will solve your problems. They will in fact generally create more problems.

These web sites should prove useful as you do your due diligence to form the proper entity for your business and to determine if a Nevada entity is right for you:
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/STMTBurgessIRS.pdf
http://www.gtlaw.com/pub/alerts/2006/1200b.pdf
http://apbook.com/apblog/2006_11_01_archive.html
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AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

Sunshine, you just showed your ignorance. Anthony and you cannot provide facts, just attack.

And, your post made very litte logical sense. I do stand corrected, the change of name was not $800, it is $880. The form is less than a page long.

In the Corporate Boot Camps, a two day seminar that clients of NCH purchase, blatantly false tax advice is provided. The following is a sample of NCH's tax advice:

1) You can deduct personal entertainment, travel and meals by claiming that everyone you meet is a potential client.

2) All expenses, many personal are deductible. Blatantly wrong. A clear business purpose and profit motive must exist in order to take the expense. The legitimate expenses to generate the business income are deductible.

3) You can deduct your child as an employee business expense. Mr. Rossi suggested to one client that this client hire his one year old infant as an employee and not only could he deduct the salary expense, but also the client's child care expenses. What can a one year old infant be doing for a home based business to receive the salary. There is also the kiddie tax to deal with, however no sales person at NCH will tell you about that little detail.

4) Mr. Rossi also advised a client that I was trying to correct his mis-information that all medical expenses, including health care premiums were deductible by the owners of the corporation. It turned out that the husband was covered by a state plan and those premiums are not deductible.

5) This pearl of wisdom from Mr. Cort W. Christie to a client at one corporate Boot Camp which I overheard. He advised a client to deduct his horse and all the related expenses by using the animal in the client's sales brochure.

6) One client who owned a farm, because of the incorrect advice provided by the sales staff was under audit to have his farm expenses re-characterized as hobby income. None of the professionals at ITS nor NCH caught this. The IRS decided to include years beyond the scope of the audit, which they are permitted to do. The result is fines and penalties. The current VP of ITS believed this audit to be frivolous. Unfortunately there are guidelines the IRS uses that the taxpayer must pass. It was not a frivolous audit.

7) Another client was trying to claim as a legitimate expense, what he lost with the NADN scam, and there are guidelines for this specific scam. This is where I finally got wind the complexity of this NADN/NCH/ITS scam. The official story at NCH, when I inquired was that NADN was in no way connected with NCH. It was a business that NCH outsourced to provide tax returns and one of NADN's corporate officers got in trouble with the IRS because he was corrupt. A simple web search certainly proves that incorrect.

The first people you speak to at NCH are NOT tax and business professionals. They are sales people who have been trained to sell you their product, which may or may not fill your needs. Most of the time you will be oversold business entities which you don't need. One product is their so-called family fortress. Beware of this product.

When opening up any corporate structure, people ought to use their common sense: the fact that a scheme is advertised on the radio or Internet, or sold by a large company, that claims it has been around for years and has 30,000 clients doesn't make it legitimate. The books provided to potential clients are self published and written by the owners years ago. There is no peer review and the information provided is not accurate, especially with recent trends from the IRS.

No matter how slick the sales pitch, small business owners and entrepreneurs, and taxpayers should be wary of anyone promising to eliminate their taxes or 100% protection from creditors and lawsuits. There's no such thing. Building credit, for example, which potential clients are advised to separate the owner from the corporation is another solution offered by NCH. Banks are not stupid. They check out the credit worthiness of the corporate officers and founders. And, if the business structure is overly complicated, it sends up red flags.

Do your research before signing at the dotted line or giving your credit card information over the phone to a sales person. The sales force at NCH is trained to obtain your credit card information to make a sale. That's the number they're looking for from you. And, since the founder of NCH was involved in the NADN scam, would you trust your business or personal information to NCH, and your business future to this company?

Check out the ethics of the person who founded NCH. Do an Internet search on him. Again, use your common sense. Most people go into business to be successful. The fiduciary relationship with your Accountant and financial advisor is a very important one. Don't get caught up into believing that owning a series of Nevada corporations, LLC's and LLLP's will solve your problems. They will in fact generally create more problems.

These web sites should prove useful as you do your due diligence to form the proper entity for your business and to determine if a Nevada entity is right for you:
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/STMTBurgessIRS.pdf
http://www.gtlaw.com/pub/alerts/2006/1200b.pdf
http://apbook.com/apblog/2006_11_01_archive.html
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"Scotty" ..........why keep up the facade?

AUTHOR: Sunshine - (U.S.A.)

I found many areas in your posting that required addressing. "Anthony, for a customer, you seem to know a lot about what goes on inside. Makes me suspect you really work for the place." I found this comical as you know quite a bit of inside terminology. I'll be glad to refer to your own verbage. "let me give you some further examples of ethical and legal violations I was exposed to and was required by the sales department to convince clients that complicated business structures were appropriate. One salesman comes to mind, Mike Rossi, who would promise anything to a client, just to make a sale." tsk tsk tsk ...What you were exposed to...I have to ask..why didn't you stand up for your principles at the first instance? Was it because you were trying to upsell the client for the 3% commission? I find it "odd" that clients weren't told about their revocation. Clients are mailed out their renewal package at least two months prior. They are contacted several times during their renewal month. THEN they are contacted the month follwing their renewal when it becomes delinquent. Clients CANNOT say that they weren't contacted and became revoked. Unless they had moved and FAILED to provide a current address. "Change of Name, for example, which is a process that takes less than five minutes runs as much as $800." That's a lie. Even an expedited name change with new guts, charter and name plate and seal doesn't cost that much. "Now, if you don't do business in Nevada, you have no business in Nevada. Nevada really offers no advantages to the small business person." WRONG AGAIN....What about the reciprocity of officer's, shareholders and directors?

What about shareholders not being public information? Privacy off of public record for the Vice President? You are tunnel visioned with only tax information. "They file a lot of no-activity returns. And, they will deviate from the price quoted you by the sales force if the current VP of ITS has his way." They are probably busy trying to upsell for the 3% commission as you stated to file returns. Maybe they are too busy like yourself doing this instead of their job. Therefore, they file the non-activities. As a matter of fact, I worked there prior to ITS inception. The original V.P. there had always filed non-activity returns. She was always encouraging her staff to charge for more services. Services that NCH employees would have NEVER recommended. "The staff of ITS receive what is called a T-up and will receive a 3% commission on the additional work." Proof that you are an ex ITS employee. "You local CPA is probably cheaper."

You sound like a jealous ex employee that was let go for filing Non activities vs. working for your paycheck. By the way, cheaper isn't always better. It's the quality that you are paying for. Not just a number puncher who barely knows what they are doing. The clients would be better off buying their own software and preparing their own taxes. As a matter of fact, the software wouldn't file a non-activity and would be "cheaper" than using their local CPA. "Why does one need 10 to 20K of business entities for a business that is just starting off. The administrative overhead is too costly, both in time and money." Even start up company owners have an estate and other assets to protect. It's better to protect it from day one and have the right foundation. Too many times we are fixing what others who don't know what they are doing or recommending have done. It sounds like you didn't comprehend any of your job. You may have slightly grasped the tax implications if marginal. However, ITS letting you go was best for everybody involved. Maybe you should hunt down the person that posted called "Katie." She must have found an hourly job by now. It's ok that you didn't make it in a sales environment. Sales organizations aren't for everybody. You should just "let it go." Move on.....be free. Oh by the way, who do you think paid your hourly paychecks......yes salespeople. Commissioned people make the hourly people's paychecks. You should try thanking them.
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"Scotty" ..........why keep up the facade?

AUTHOR: Sunshine - (U.S.A.)

I found many areas in your posting that required addressing. "Anthony, for a customer, you seem to know a lot about what goes on inside. Makes me suspect you really work for the place." I found this comical as you know quite a bit of inside terminology. I'll be glad to refer to your own verbage. "let me give you some further examples of ethical and legal violations I was exposed to and was required by the sales department to convince clients that complicated business structures were appropriate. One salesman comes to mind, Mike Rossi, who would promise anything to a client, just to make a sale." tsk tsk tsk ...What you were exposed to...I have to ask..why didn't you stand up for your principles at the first instance? Was it because you were trying to upsell the client for the 3% commission? I find it "odd" that clients weren't told about their revocation. Clients are mailed out their renewal package at least two months prior. They are contacted several times during their renewal month. THEN they are contacted the month follwing their renewal when it becomes delinquent. Clients CANNOT say that they weren't contacted and became revoked. Unless they had moved and FAILED to provide a current address. "Change of Name, for example, which is a process that takes less than five minutes runs as much as $800." That's a lie. Even an expedited name change with new guts, charter and name plate and seal doesn't cost that much. "Now, if you don't do business in Nevada, you have no business in Nevada. Nevada really offers no advantages to the small business person." WRONG AGAIN....What about the reciprocity of officer's, shareholders and directors?

What about shareholders not being public information? Privacy off of public record for the Vice President? You are tunnel visioned with only tax information. "They file a lot of no-activity returns. And, they will deviate from the price quoted you by the sales force if the current VP of ITS has his way." They are probably busy trying to upsell for the 3% commission as you stated to file returns. Maybe they are too busy like yourself doing this instead of their job. Therefore, they file the non-activities. As a matter of fact, I worked there prior to ITS inception. The original V.P. there had always filed non-activity returns. She was always encouraging her staff to charge for more services. Services that NCH employees would have NEVER recommended. "The staff of ITS receive what is called a T-up and will receive a 3% commission on the additional work." Proof that you are an ex ITS employee. "You local CPA is probably cheaper."

You sound like a jealous ex employee that was let go for filing Non activities vs. working for your paycheck. By the way, cheaper isn't always better. It's the quality that you are paying for. Not just a number puncher who barely knows what they are doing. The clients would be better off buying their own software and preparing their own taxes. As a matter of fact, the software wouldn't file a non-activity and would be "cheaper" than using their local CPA. "Why does one need 10 to 20K of business entities for a business that is just starting off. The administrative overhead is too costly, both in time and money." Even start up company owners have an estate and other assets to protect. It's better to protect it from day one and have the right foundation. Too many times we are fixing what others who don't know what they are doing or recommending have done. It sounds like you didn't comprehend any of your job. You may have slightly grasped the tax implications if marginal. However, ITS letting you go was best for everybody involved. Maybe you should hunt down the person that posted called "Katie." She must have found an hourly job by now. It's ok that you didn't make it in a sales environment. Sales organizations aren't for everybody. You should just "let it go." Move on.....be free. Oh by the way, who do you think paid your hourly paychecks......yes salespeople. Commissioned people make the hourly people's paychecks. You should try thanking them.
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AUTHOR: Sunshine - (U.S.A.)

I found many areas in your posting that required addressing. "Anthony, for a customer, you seem to know a lot about what goes on inside. Makes me suspect you really work for the place." I found this comical as you know quite a bit of inside terminology. I'll be glad to refer to your own verbage. "let me give you some further examples of ethical and legal violations I was exposed to and was required by the sales department to convince clients that complicated business structures were appropriate. One salesman comes to mind, Mike Rossi, who would promise anything to a client, just to make a sale." tsk tsk tsk ...What you were exposed to...I have to ask..why didn't you stand up for your principles at the first instance? Was it because you were trying to upsell the client for the 3% commission? I find it "odd" that clients weren't told about their revocation. Clients are mailed out their renewal package at least two months prior. They are contacted several times during their renewal month. THEN they are contacted the month follwing their renewal when it becomes delinquent. Clients CANNOT say that they weren't contacted and became revoked. Unless they had moved and FAILED to provide a current address. "Change of Name, for example, which is a process that takes less than five minutes runs as much as $800." That's a lie. Even an expedited name change with new guts, charter and name plate and seal doesn't cost that much. "Now, if you don't do business in Nevada, you have no business in Nevada. Nevada really offers no advantages to the small business person." WRONG AGAIN....What about the reciprocity of officer's, shareholders and directors?

What about shareholders not being public information? Privacy off of public record for the Vice President? You are tunnel visioned with only tax information. "They file a lot of no-activity returns. And, they will deviate from the price quoted you by the sales force if the current VP of ITS has his way." They are probably busy trying to upsell for the 3% commission as you stated to file returns. Maybe they are too busy like yourself doing this instead of their job. Therefore, they file the non-activities. As a matter of fact, I worked there prior to ITS inception. The original V.P. there had always filed non-activity returns. She was always encouraging her staff to charge for more services. Services that NCH employees would have NEVER recommended. "The staff of ITS receive what is called a T-up and will receive a 3% commission on the additional work." Proof that you are an ex ITS employee. "You local CPA is probably cheaper."

You sound like a jealous ex employee that was let go for filing Non activities vs. working for your paycheck. By the way, cheaper isn't always better. It's the quality that you are paying for. Not just a number puncher who barely knows what they are doing. The clients would be better off buying their own software and preparing their own taxes. As a matter of fact, the software wouldn't file a non-activity and would be "cheaper" than using their local CPA. "Why does one need 10 to 20K of business entities for a business that is just starting off. The administrative overhead is too costly, both in time and money." Even start up company owners have an estate and other assets to protect. It's better to protect it from day one and have the right foundation. Too many times we are fixing what others who don't know what they are doing or recommending have done. It sounds like you didn't comprehend any of your job. You may have slightly grasped the tax implications if marginal. However, ITS letting you go was best for everybody involved. Maybe you should hunt down the person that posted called "Katie." She must have found an hourly job by now. It's ok that you didn't make it in a sales environment. Sales organizations aren't for everybody. You should just "let it go." Move on.....be free. Oh by the way, who do you think paid your hourly paychecks......yes salespeople. Commissioned people make the hourly people's paychecks. You should try thanking them.
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AUTHOR: Sunshine - (U.S.A.)

I found many areas in your posting that required addressing. "Anthony, for a customer, you seem to know a lot about what goes on inside. Makes me suspect you really work for the place." I found this comical as you know quite a bit of inside terminology. I'll be glad to refer to your own verbage. "let me give you some further examples of ethical and legal violations I was exposed to and was required by the sales department to convince clients that complicated business structures were appropriate. One salesman comes to mind, Mike Rossi, who would promise anything to a client, just to make a sale." tsk tsk tsk ...What you were exposed to...I have to ask..why didn't you stand up for your principles at the first instance? Was it because you were trying to upsell the client for the 3% commission? I find it "odd" that clients weren't told about their revocation. Clients are mailed out their renewal package at least two months prior. They are contacted several times during their renewal month. THEN they are contacted the month follwing their renewal when it becomes delinquent. Clients CANNOT say that they weren't contacted and became revoked. Unless they had moved and FAILED to provide a current address. "Change of Name, for example, which is a process that takes less than five minutes runs as much as $800." That's a lie. Even an expedited name change with new guts, charter and name plate and seal doesn't cost that much. "Now, if you don't do business in Nevada, you have no business in Nevada. Nevada really offers no advantages to the small business person." WRONG AGAIN....What about the reciprocity of officer's, shareholders and directors?

What about shareholders not being public information? Privacy off of public record for the Vice President? You are tunnel visioned with only tax information. "They file a lot of no-activity returns. And, they will deviate from the price quoted you by the sales force if the current VP of ITS has his way." They are probably busy trying to upsell for the 3% commission as you stated to file returns. Maybe they are too busy like yourself doing this instead of their job. Therefore, they file the non-activities. As a matter of fact, I worked there prior to ITS inception. The original V.P. there had always filed non-activity returns. She was always encouraging her staff to charge for more services. Services that NCH employees would have NEVER recommended. "The staff of ITS receive what is called a T-up and will receive a 3% commission on the additional work." Proof that you are an ex ITS employee. "You local CPA is probably cheaper."

You sound like a jealous ex employee that was let go for filing Non activities vs. working for your paycheck. By the way, cheaper isn't always better. It's the quality that you are paying for. Not just a number puncher who barely knows what they are doing. The clients would be better off buying their own software and preparing their own taxes. As a matter of fact, the software wouldn't file a non-activity and would be "cheaper" than using their local CPA. "Why does one need 10 to 20K of business entities for a business that is just starting off. The administrative overhead is too costly, both in time and money." Even start up company owners have an estate and other assets to protect. It's better to protect it from day one and have the right foundation. Too many times we are fixing what others who don't know what they are doing or recommending have done. It sounds like you didn't comprehend any of your job. You may have slightly grasped the tax implications if marginal. However, ITS letting you go was best for everybody involved. Maybe you should hunt down the person that posted called "Katie." She must have found an hourly job by now. It's ok that you didn't make it in a sales environment. Sales organizations aren't for everybody. You should just "let it go." Move on.....be free. Oh by the way, who do you think paid your hourly paychecks......yes salespeople. Commissioned people make the hourly people's paychecks. You should try thanking them.
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AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

Anthony,

It is called professional ethics, and professional responsibility, which NCH and apparently you lack. Anthony, for a customer, you seem to know a lot about what goes on inside. Makes me suspect you really work for the place. And, your last post, I can take as a threat.

To take you on your word as being a customer, let me give you some further examples of ethical and legal violations I was exposed to and was required by the sales department to convince clients that complicated business structures were appropriate. One salesman comes to mind, Mike Rossi, who would promise anything to a client, just to make a sale.

First I ask any potential client to check out this web site: http://www.christulino.com/archives/000125.html

It is very revealing. Read through all the comments of Mr. Christie's victims from NADN. I continue.

1) Selling tax returns to corporations who were in revoked status with the State of Nevada. We were required to file federal tax returns for such corporations. I never did, this is filing a fraudulent tax return.
2) Requiring to file a business tax return with an over $8 million dollar NOL (Net Operating Loss), a loss which was a result of fraud; the individual sat in Club Fed for five out of his eight year sentence for this fraud. This is filing a fraudulent tax return.
3) Filing tax returns, one comes to mind specifically, from a corporation whose sole shareholder was a defunct Nevada Corporation,
4) Tax returns which should have been filed as an S-Corporation filed as a C Corporation,
5) Tax returns never filed. This is failure to file.
6) Clients, being told by a salesman, aforementioned, in order for him to sell his bag of corporations to this victim, that he could avoid state use tax, even in Nevada, if this client purchased his large asset in Canada, received the GST back, and placed this asset in one of his Nevada Corporations. He was told that Nevada rarely goes after any State Use tax violator. This is blatantly false. In fact Nevada is very aggressive. This is tax evasion.
7) To follow up on this issue, this same client was told that when he leased his equipment to others and since the assets were in a Nevada corporation, he would not have to declare that income, nor the sales tax on the lease, in the state in which he was doing business. This is tax evasion, again. A complaint has been filed with that state regarding this matter. And, that state, as I have learned is opening up an investigation, as well.
8) Salesmen telling potential clients, that the conversion from C to S corporation was very complicated and had to be performed by NCH's professionals.
9) The Form 2553 was rarely filed timely, and in two cases cost the clients, who were professional corporations, a ton of money. The tax status of LLC's is called check the box. An easy form to fill out.
10) Corporations whose yearly paperwork with the State was not timely filed resulting in additional penalties for the client with Nevada.
11) Clients whose place of business was outside the state, and their corporations were not properly foreign filed in their state of business,
12) Local and regional taxes not filed, for example for those clients in Pennsylvania,
13) Proper business licenses never filed,
14) Clients being sold shelf corporations, a specialty of Corporate Services Center, Derek Rowley's Reno company, and being told by the salesmen that all expenses could be taken through the corporation since its inception. This is fraud.
15) Clients told that their package included both the bookkeeping and tax returns only later to learn that it did not. Lying to the customer just to make a sale.

Shall we continue? This list could be pages long. NCH's MO is as long as the sale is made, the client is forgotten about. Ran across many clients who were lied to when it was claimed that a reminder notice was sent. It was never.

Anthony, you're the one who is transparent. I am least honest in my approach. You are not. I doubt you are a customer. And, in the last post, it is apparent that former employees are harassed by NCH to where false police reports and charges are filed. Why, I wonder?

Furthermore, the turnover among the professional staff, the CPAs as you mention, is over 300% per year. Within the Las Vegas business and legal community, Mr. Christie has a very bad reputation.

To conclude, let me remind you of another post made regarding NADN, which Cort Christie, founder of NCH was involved in. I am reposting this for the convenience of others. I ask any potential client, would you want to establish a fiduciary relationship with a company such as NCH, whose founder is responsible for a $324 million tax scam where the victims have to deal with the IRS on their own, doubly victimized?

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Posted by: Wayne McCormick

They should also name Cort Christie in this lawsuit. 3 years ago I worked closely with Cort before I found out how little he cared for people and how much he loved the almighty dollar. He was one of the 2 original founders of National Audit Defense Network. He ostensibly sold off his shares of NADN to Weston J. Coolidge in 2003 (named in the suit)but that was really just a way to try and protect his other company Nevada Corporate Headquarters from these legal problems.

I have followed this very closely and I know that Wes still funnels money to Cort through "under the table" payoffs. Cort has transferred a lot of the same illegal sales practices and tax schemes to Nevada Corporate Headquarters. (Setting up Corporations or entities to magically avoid paying taxes) He even took veteran employees from NADN to staff his other company Nevada Corporate Headquarters. Hopefully the government will also look into Nevada Corporate Headquarters tax schemes and boiler room operations. Cort Christie's latest acquisition is the incorporating firm Corporate Service Center in Reno, Nevada .

Looks like he's trying to stay ahead of lawsuits by buying up other companies and then teaching them to rip off the public like NADN, before they can catch up to him. So if you hate NADN stay away from Nevada Corporate Headquarters in Las Vegas , and Corporate Service Center in Reno . Both companies are nothing more than the bastard children of National Audit Defense Network and another slick tax scam perpetrated by the demented mind of Cort W. Christie.

Chaz
Po, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

Chaz--please contact me regarding your posting.

Evan Davis
evan.j.davis@usdoj.gov

Evan - Washington , District of Columbia
U.S.A.
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Scotty, get over it.

AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)

It is so obvious the two above postings are from a disgruntled CPA who was probaly let go due to poor job performance & unstable behavior, Infact a retraining order had to be filed against such an employee for unstable conduct.
I dont work for NCH or ITS but I do know NCH is focused on client satisfaction.
It's unfortunate "Scotty" a disgruntled employee cant go on with this persons professional career if "Scotty" ever had one & move on.
Interesting.
It appears a restraining order against a former ITS employee was in fact needed if "Scotty" is in fact a disgruntled CPA.
Earth to Scotty, your funny..... & obvious.
Get over it, it's over Johny.
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Utah State Tax Commission investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS)

AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

The Utah State Tax Commission, as a result of a report filed with the state agency, is now investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS) and Nevada Corporate Headquarters (NCH) for setting up corporate structures specifically to evade state exise tax.

NCH has set up at least ten corporations for Utah clients so as to avoid nexus, even though all monies by these clients are made within Utah and the clients are obligated to pay tax in Utah.

Utah is part of this growing 26 state reporting system to catch tax evasion. Derek Rowley, President of ITS, is a Utah resident and therefore responsible to the laws of the State of Utah and will not need to be extradited.

A similar complaint has been filed against NCH and ITS with the State of California's Franchise Tax Board and Board of Equilization.
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Utah State Tax Commission investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS)

AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

The Utah State Tax Commission, as a result of a report filed with the state agency, is now investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS) and Nevada Corporate Headquarters (NCH) for setting up corporate structures specifically to evade state exise tax.

NCH has set up at least ten corporations for Utah clients so as to avoid nexus, even though all monies by these clients are made within Utah and the clients are obligated to pay tax in Utah.

Utah is part of this growing 26 state reporting system to catch tax evasion. Derek Rowley, President of ITS, is a Utah resident and therefore responsible to the laws of the State of Utah and will not need to be extradited.

A similar complaint has been filed against NCH and ITS with the State of California's Franchise Tax Board and Board of Equilization.
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#20 UPDATE Employee

Utah State Tax Commission investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS)

AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

The Utah State Tax Commission, as a result of a report filed with the state agency, is now investigating Integrated Tax Solutions (ITS) and Nevada Corporate Headquarters (NCH) for setting up corporate structures specifically to evade state exise tax.

NCH has set up at least ten corporations for Utah clients so as to avoid nexus, even though all monies by these clients are made within Utah and the clients are obligated to pay tax in Utah.

Utah is part of this growing 26 state reporting system to catch tax evasion. Derek Rowley, President of ITS, is a Utah resident and therefore responsible to the laws of the State of Utah and will not need to be extradited.

A similar complaint has been filed against NCH and ITS with the State of California's Franchise Tax Board and Board of Equilization.
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#21 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Keep away from NCH

AUTHOR: Scotty - (U.S.A.)

The founder of NCH, Mr. Cort Christie, was involved in the NADN scam.

The "advice" from the Corporate Consultants is marginal only as they are not trained professionals, rather sales people working on a commission within a boiler room operation, never seen by those who attend their corporate boot camps.

As to their service, I found that many clients were ignored and their entities went into revoked status. The service costs are not competitive. Change of Name, for example, which is a process that takes less than five minutes runs as much as $800. IRS Form 2553 were not filed properly and timely. NOL's were not carried back, rather for expediency, carried forward, even though it would have benefitted the tax payer to roll back the NOL.

I also have it on very good information that fradulent tax returns, returns for revoked corporations have been filed. Another example, advising clients to purchase two corporations and place assets in each of them, each coporation filing a lien against the other corporation's assets for creditor protection - fraud in fact. Tax returns were just forgotten and IRS and State notification went unanswered, sometimes for years.

Visit your local CPA, instead. He or she is better trained, better experienced and is not trying to sell you complicated business structures, not needed by those first starting a business. When you build a business, you want to build a professional relationship with your Accountant. The turnover at NCH makes this practically impossible.

Now, if you don't do business in Nevada, you have no business in Nevada. Nevada really offers no advantages to the small business person. Not only must you domestically file in Nevada and pay its registration and fees, you then must foreign file in the state you are doing your business, which most times will not be Nevada. You will pay the foreign filing fees in that state.

If you set up Nevada entities to evade another state's taxation, as prior ads from NCH claimed, this is tax evasion. If you try to avoid the use tax in your state, the Nevada Department of Taxation will catch you and report you to your state. The Nevada Department of Taxation is now part of this interstate reporting system to help catch tax evasion, especially with use and excise taxes.

The IRS is specifically looking into Nevada Corporations. Burgess of the IRS submitted written testimony in front of Congress last November specifically regarding Nevada business entities and their increased scrutinization.

As to the LLLP from the comment above. This structure may not hold up in court. And, it may require a consolidated tax return, which defeats the purpose of it from a tax standpoint and a protection standpoint.

Furthermore, NCH's tax wing, ITS, files no consolidated returns, which is the law. And, their work is slow as they have fewer than five people working in their tax office. The quality of taxwork is marginal. They file a lot of no-activity returns. And, they will deviate from the price quoted you by the sales force if the current VP of ITS has his way.

If your tax return becomes overly complicated, you can look to charges of around $200 per hour above what you had already paid. The staff of ITS receive what is called a T-up and will receive a 3% commission on the additional work. You local CPA is probably cheaper.

Again, go to your local CPA. Why does one need 10 to 20K of business entities for a business that is just starting off. The administrative overhead is too costly, both in time and money.
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#22 Consumer Comment

Reputable Company?

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

Someone said that this company was "reputable". Enron was once a "reputable" company also.

I was a client of this company and had nothing but problems with it. My business license application was not sent in as promised, no one would get back to me, I kept getting bounced from rep to customer service back to rep, and no one was helpful. In the short time that I was a client, I was handed off to several different reps. My first and second reps were both fired for unknown reasons. If you are blaming the employees, why is this company hiring people like this in the first place? A "reputable" company would certainly have a screening process during the hiring process, imo.

I went to the NV SoS and they gave me other options on a resident agent. The advice here was good. D&B is also working with me on my credit for a MUCH lower price.

Like I said, Enron was once a "reputable" company too. Just because a business has been in business for several years doesn't mean that it's reputable.

If the person in this blog who reported to be the client is actually a client, why are you looking up a "reputable" company on ripoffreport.com? You would have no reason to look up such a thing if the company is so reputable.
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#23 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Why you were really fired

AUTHOR: Sunshine - (U.S.A.)

I reviewed your posting several times. I have found a few areas that required response.

First of all, an LLLP is a partnership. It is made up of two partners. The partners are Limited 99% owner and General 1% owner. You have options on both of them in using individuals, trusts, entities etc. An LLLP never owns 1% of itself.

NCH recommends issuing stock to the LLLP of a "newborn worth nothing company" for corporate veil protection. In the event of a lawsuit, the clients had never owned the stock personally. NCH DOESN'T promote the practice of the "bearer shares theory."

Secondly, you recommended contacting the Secretary of State to set up their own entity. Unless they RESIDE here in NV, they require a RESIDENT AGENT.

You are incorrect stating that "nobody has finished the credit program." Not only am I a former employee (left to form own business). I am a client and an Affiliate.

Thirdly, why would you send clients directly to Dunn & Bradstreet? They are a privately owned company and not regulated by the government. Once D & B rates an entity as a HIGH RISK, the entity and officers named on public record will never be credit worthy.

You need to retract your statement of being fired "for no reason." Obviously, you were terminated for not knowing your job. You don't have any comprehension of the products and services available to NCH clients.

For the years that I worked there, I had NEVER known of clients being ripped off. As far as having your sales goal of $ 8k a week. It is a sales organization. There are overhead costs associated with running a business. You have to be aware of leads, radio, salary, commissions, rent and etc.

It seems apparent that you weren't right for the job. You should find an hourly or salary job that better suits you. Instead of taking accountability of not being successful with NCH, you point the finger at the company that probably kept you too long.
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#24 UPDATE Employee

Sounds like You are an ex employee

AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)

I am a client of Nevada Corporate Headquarters for 5 years. I have gone through their credit program & was able to purchase a Brand New Ford 150 truck & purchased 2 investment properties.
The company IMO is very focused on making sure I was well taken care of & that I accomplished my goals. I have worked with the same rep who has gone the extra mile for me & my partners.
I since have done a living trust for myself & have set up a LLLP. For a company that has been around for 15 years & has 30,000 client & what appears to be one disgruntled employee that posts here speaks highly of NCH in my book.
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