• Report: #956278

Complaint Review: BCTI

  • Submitted: Wed, October 17, 2012
  • Updated: Thu, May 08, 2014

  • Reported By: Armidad — Bonney Lake Washington USA
5580 Pacific Hwy E Ste B, Fife, WA Fife, Washington United States of America

BCTI - I withdrew from this school, $12k in dept - Currently wanting to start another Class Action Lawsuit - who is interested? Fife, Washington

*Consumer Comment: Any updates?

*Consumer Comment: Count Me In! 17 years later...still paying for what exactly?

*General Comment: Would like Help with BCTI class action Lawsuit

*Consumer Comment: bcti

*General Comment: I'm in!!!

*General Comment: Still in Progress?

*General Comment: count me too

*Consumer Comment: Ripped-off as a minor...

*Consumer Comment: Enrolled at sixteen against my will

*Consumer Comment: Count Me In

*Consumer Comment: Very interested.

*Consumer Comment: I will join the effort to re-open BCTI case

*Consumer Comment: I'M IN!!!!

*Consumer Comment: I'm ready to join the fight

*Consumer Comment: BCTI Class Action Warning

*Consumer Comment: BCTI Ex Student

*Consumer Comment: Let's go after BCTI

*Consumer Comment: I also attended this school

*Consumer Comment: I'm Interested too!

*Consumer Comment: Yes, Please!

*Consumer Comment: Satisfied Graduate

*General Comment: bcti

*Consumer Comment: Let's Do It.

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READ THIS - I have usefull information regarding; Student loans, BCTI's prior class action lawsuit, and the Department of Education.

Like a lot of you, my wife and I too had made the mistake of talking to BCTI. It was simple: Fill out these forms, pick a time to go to school, and you would be well on your way. Well for me - after I signed up for school at BCTI I was involved in a major car accident and had to spend some time in the hospital learning how to walk again. Consequently, I withdrew from the school & my girlfriend (now wife) did the same. 

The outcome of all of this: My wife and I currently owe over $22,000.00 dollars to the Department of Education and are currently in default on our student loans. Apparently when we withdrew from BCTI, BCTI did not submit our "formal withdraw" nor did they refund our student loan money back to the Department of Education. 

I have personnaly been trying to clear up this matter with the DOE (Department of Education) for many years now. I contacted my state's office of Student Records in order to obtain my wife and I's attendence records, to show that the school should have never kept the tuition it was given on our behalf - I then received correspondence back stating: "Due to BCTI not keeping accurate records, we can neither confirm nor deny that these individuals ever attended schooling at this institution." I have also spoken to the DOE extensively in regards to the previous class action lawsuit that was filed against BCTI for fraudulent behavior and the fact that no one has any confirmation of my wife or I ever attending BCTI - it fell on deaf ears. Still trying to get somewhere with this mess, I then submitted confirmation to the DOE with documentation, to wit: my "Attendence Letter" from my states Student Records Department, records of the dates that I was in the hospital & what injuries I sustained - proving that I could and did not attend the school, as well as, my girlfriend/ wife had withdrawn in order to become my caregiver because of the extent of my injuries, BCTI's attendence outlines and guidlines for early withdrawl - stating that they would provide tuition refunds for certain hardships, and a letter with definitive dates and times - providing an outline as to why BCTI should be heald accountable for the money owed to the DOE and not my wife and I cause we were not there. Again, it fell on deaf ears! I received a letter stating that we still owe the money, and how did I want to pay.

BCTI CLASS ACTION: For those of you that don't know this, BCTI has already lost a class action lawsuit involving some of it's former students. Each student had their student loans erased and received a check for $8600.00 for their troubles. Anyone that tells you any diffent is lying - I personally know someone that was involved in this suit and that was what they received (I actually saw the check with my own eyes). Unfortunately, I found out when it was too late to get involved.

I have tried to get in touch with the original Attorney's firm that filed the prior class action, left messages, sent emails, etc... Nothing, no call back, not even an email stating "we can't get involved again."

HERE'S THE DEAL: I am wanting/ going to start this mess up all over again. My feelings are simple - I am tired of seeing this defaulted student loan attached to my family name and I am tired of the phone calls from the collection company. If any of you are wanting to do the same, reply to this post - make contact. I am going to seek out a good attorney that wants to help those of us that couldn't get involved the first time. Stop waiting for this to go away - it won't....... 

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/17/2012 02:00 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/BCTI/Fife-Washington-/BCTI-I-withdrew-from-this-school-12k-in-dept-Currently-wanting-to-start-another-Cl-956278. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Any updates?

AUTHOR: Laura - (Tacoma)

 I know that the government is working on defining the requirements for student loan debt forgiveness in the event of fraud. Is this class action suit stil in effect? I was a student back in the early 90's and missed out on the first class action suit agsinst BCTI. Please keep me posted.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Count Me In! 17 years later...still paying for what exactly?

AUTHOR: jknobler - ()

I too attended this scam of a school in 1998.  Single young mom who was led to think that I would have so many great opportunities with this, they place you into work immediately! What a joke! I asked how this would be taken care of and they led me to believe that it would be all taken care of with grants since I was a single mother trying to make a better future for myself and my 1 year old.

Less than a month in I reviewed papers I received and noticed that not only did I not have all grants as I was told but I actually now owed financial aid almost $7,000!!! I even recall a girl that I knew signed up and somehow she got every bit of that $10,000 crap of a school fees all in grants! I even brought this up and I just pretty much got the run around on that as well.  Why did she qualify for something like that when I am a single mother and she lived with her family?!

Once I confronted the school about this and mentioned that down the road at the Community College that these same courses I would be taking at BCTI would only cost me a few hundred dollars each! When I asked to please cancel everything and I would not be able to afford this they stated that I could not and even if they tried that I would be liable for at least half if not more of the total amount due...and that the "grants" would also be removed.  Again being young and now scared I decided to stick through it as I thought I had no other choice. You sit in this room at the end of your course with 20+ other people and however many others through out the day looking at the same jobs.  I could have done that myself at the unemployment office if I would have known that this is how it was done and that was FREE!

Nonetheless, I graduated, racked up the huge bill, and decided I didn't want to pay because it wasn't fair that I had been cheated, lied to, scammed.  Of course the Federal Government doesn't care, they just wanted the money back, didn't care how it was set up.  I did try to complain, but the best I could ever get was having it deferred for years and years, accruing interest, a few times hitting my credit report, in the end I of course have to pay it and still am which is unbelieveable as it is pretty close to 20 years ago.

If there really is any opporunity to possibly get this wiped clean or at least a check of some sort to pay it off.  I'M IN FOR THIS RIDE! If this is still pretty current issue now here in 2014 please someone contact me and let me know how to get this out of my life if there is a way! 

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#3 General Comment

Would like Help with BCTI class action Lawsuit

AUTHOR: Whyskas - ()

Like so many others here, I too am wanting to get this settled. THe original lawsuit should have included ALL the students from BCTI. I am willing to go in with whomever is wanting to get this BCTI class action started again and get ALL our names cleared of the debt that BCTI caused. 

Please contact me if you can help, or have a class action started already, or if you want to start one, we need to get this taken care of as soon as possible. Thank you. 

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AUTHOR: jay - ()

i want my federal loans payed for   how can i help

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#5 General Comment

I'm in!!!

AUTHOR: Ajisah - ()

I'm a former student at BCTI in 2004. Still no job related to the course I took And still paying on the loan. Please let me know if someone open another lawsuit. 

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#6 General Comment

Still in Progress?

AUTHOR: Fitness for Life - ()

I was ripped off by these scam artists and I am still paying my student loans on this.  I had no idea there was a previous lawsuit.  Any progress on this?

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#7 General Comment

count me too

AUTHOR: jen - ()

I was also ripped off by them so count me in

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#8 Consumer Comment

Ripped-off as a minor...

AUTHOR: asq_cj - ()

I was an early highschool graduate at the age of 16 I had my diploma. However, I was homeless and needed employment fast. The recruiter told me he could help me with my expenses and get me a job in eight months. I signed all that paperwork as a minor and went into debt in excess of $16,000. However, they didnt not help me find a job, the certificate I learned later was useless and the education I received just as worthless. All the momentum I earned sacraficing my social life and my home to get out of highschool early and get a job. They sidelined me and took advantage of my lack of parents and experience. I would do anything just to get rid of the debt they caused me!

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#9 Consumer Comment

Enrolled at sixteen against my will

AUTHOR: coley - ()

 My parents who were convinced by the staff that BCTI was a credible school told me I had to attend. When I attended the second phase I held out for the first week refusing to go after learning my little sister was aquiring the same skills in highschool! During the that phase having no Adult guidence they had me resign paperwork they informed me after having attended for a certain amount of time I would be held responsible for the debt even if I no longer attended. Leagally at sixteen in wa you can be held responsible for student loans. I need help over 20 thousand dollars in debt!

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#10 Consumer Comment

Count Me In

AUTHOR: Trish - ()

I went to the school and I also know how they rigged their employment verifications!!!!

Contact me at (((ROR redacted))) or (((ROR redacted))) Universal City, TX 78148

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#11 Consumer Comment

Very interested.

AUTHOR: leighannh - ()

I to am a former student, and its funny how most did not get notified of the lawsuit I would gladly help in anyway i can to get another one started

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#12 Consumer Comment

I will join the effort to re-open BCTI case

AUTHOR: ptloadzafun - ()

I also missed out on the first tort against the criminal enterprise BCTI. I received the Integrated Computer Applications certification with absolutely no luck in finding a job. Grad services referred me to Volt Temp service.............Duh!. I actually thought A+ certification through them may give me the experience to find gainful employment but needed to work as a retail clerk full time to feed myself and had to quit. I owe a default amount of 17,000 dollars.

Yes, I would like my pound of flesh.
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#13 Consumer Comment

I'M IN!!!!

AUTHOR: Vern - ()

I too was scammed by this school in 1997. Too put this simply; I owe them over $15,000,the collectors won't leave me alone and I need this to quit destroying my life! I'm definitely in!!
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#14 Consumer Comment

I'm ready to join the fight

AUTHOR: Derek P. - ()

 I too have been scammed by BCTI. I went to school there in 2000 for only a month and a half. I realized that the school was a rip off very quickly and tried to withdraw and have my student loans refunded to the D.O.E.

 Long story short, the money was not refunded and I have paid back several thousand dollars now and all that I got from that school was financial distress. I would like to join in on the class action law suit as well. You can contact me at (((REDACTED))).

Anyone that is involved in a lawsuit please feel free to contact me about developments or another case that may be currently happening.

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#15 Consumer Comment

BCTI Class Action Warning

AUTHOR: Jae.Hill - (United States of America)

I have a concern regarding your friend's experience with the class action lawsuit against Business Computer Training Institute of Gig Harbor, Washington (BCTI), circa 2007.

As a plaintiff member in the lawsuit, I received a check similar to the one mentioned in your report. However my student loan was not discharged (erased) as your friend reported, and I am still being harassed for payments at this late date in February 2013, nearly six years after the supposed resolution to this situation.

I mention this only that you be aware and not assume that your student loan will be automatically expunged by a favorable judgment as I was led to believe. Be cautious and verify everything; this cannot be over-emphasized. I sincerely wish you every success in your pursuit.
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#16 Consumer Comment

BCTI Ex Student

AUTHOR: Ro - (United States of America)

I attended Business Computer Training Institute in the past....1996 class Graduate. I am interested in any class lawsuit taken. You can count me in! If there is anything that I can do to help. Please let me know. Please keep me informed on any correspondance. Thanks in advance!
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#17 Consumer Comment

Let's go after BCTI

AUTHOR: silverdawn78 - (United States of America)

I graduated from BCTI in 2000 in Salem, OR.   I, like most of you, was young; I had just moved to Salem with my husband & baby and didn't know where I was going in life. I was waiting downtown at the bus depot, on my way home from a part-time job, when one of their reps approached me & suckered me in. I thought I would get more computer skills than what I had already known from that school, the classes were super easy and not very helpful for the amount of money they were receiving. Now 13 years later, in debt in over $10,000. I also, did not know there was a law suit filed against them, nor did I even know that they had closed. I would like see where we could go with this. Please contact me at (((email redacted))) Thank you.

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#18 Consumer Comment

I also attended this school

AUTHOR: Parksolo - (United States of America)

I would like as many of us that are still having issues with this subject to gather together and petition the dismissal of our government loans. here is a link to a reddit post I just made. A few people willing to spend the time to get avenues set up through social media sites so we can start finding each other and get some action organized is what I think we need at this point. i am willing to put time and effort into this problem. parkadams@gmail.com class of 2001 vancouver, wa campus.....did not receive any info or re reimbursement from class action.
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#19 Consumer Comment

I'm Interested too!

AUTHOR: desi1979 - (Virgin Islands (US))

I was enrolled at BCTI's Beaverton office back in 1997.  I attending two months only to discover that with my job, my 1 year old daughter ( I was only 17) I found the class to be to fast pace for me and if I missed 1 day I would have no idea where we were when I returned the next day.  I was completely pressured to do this program from all there representives and assured that they could work around my schedule.  Yet if I missed a class because of work, the whole class didn't wait for me to come back, they just kept right on going.  I was lost and I am by no means unsmart, so it was frustrating. I had to withdraw.  Now I was only 17 years old and had absolutely no idea of what this would do to me in the long run. That was about 16 years ago I still owe 2,500 and they take my taxes and will not allow me to recieve any more help to further my education.  So because I allowed a company , who got shut down for fruad mind you, to convince me that I was making the best decision for me and my daughters future, I am at fault and must pay the reprecussions.  I might be able to swallow that if they were not proven to be FRUADS!!! Why in the world would americans wanting an education be denied that and required to pay for it?   I'm interested please contact me at iam69candy@yahoo.com    thank you desiree
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#20 Consumer Comment

Yes, Please!

AUTHOR: Disenfranchised - (United States of America)

Hi, I would definitely be interested in becoming a member of a (2nd, apparently) class action law suit! I finished my program back in 1996, but the "training" was outdated and antiquated immediately. I was dissatisfied from the beginning, but because I was so young, didn't realize that I had the option to 'cancel' or quit.  I've been paying my student loans for about 12 years now - just the minimum payment of course - and have always felt I shouldn't have to continue to pay for loans to a school that didn't product the results promised and ultimately - shut down.  I still owe several thousand dollars and I'm not being greedy...I'd just like the remaining balance to be forgiven.  If anyone gets another class action lawsuit going - please do contact me to be a member.

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#21 Consumer Comment

Satisfied Graduate

AUTHOR: AAlexander - (United States of America)

I typed in 'BCTI' to find out what the schedules were these days to see if my daughter's schedule could support going to this school. I graduated from BCTI in Vancouver, WA in Dec 1999. I was very satisfied with the classes and they got me an interview with a great company after graduation. I got that job and loved it. 8 people out of 13 dropped out from my class due to general laziness, unwillingness to show up every day, or had situations at home that prevented them from coming every day. A lot of our grade was attendance. BCTI is designed to make sure you learn everything you need to know to have an office job, and is designed to teach you everything on site, with no homework. If you show up every day and stay awake, you will learn everything you need to know. If you don't show up every day, you will end up dropping out and owing the money, just like any other trade school. I am very mad seeing these ripoff reports, and I hope people who genuinely want to learn and have the time and the drive will consider this school.
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AUTHOR: youngrell425 - (United States of America)

hey my names anthony i also attended bcti, io 04/05 in Tukwilla Wa, was interested in a suit.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Let's Do It.

AUTHOR: Shaun - (United States of America)

I am very interested in joining a class action suit against BCTI. I have been researching BCTI on the internet and have learned that there are hundreds (if not more) of people just like me. Where do we go from here?

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