Complaint Review: Department Of Epidemiology & Biostatistics, Case Western Reserve University School Of Medicine - Cleveland Ohio
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- Department Of Epidemiology & Biostatistics, Case Western Reserve University School Of Medicine 10900 Euclid Ave. Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.
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Department Of Epidemiology & Biostatistics, Case Western Reserve University School Of Medicine Department Masters Degree fraud, epidemiology classes run in bizarre ways by Dr. Sana Loue, now Acting Director of the Department Cleveland Ohio
*Consumer Comment: Why do you care about your grade, are you trying to get into Grad School - You have an MD
*Author of original report: The material that I presented in class, and got a 'C' on, was later published in Nature Reviews by another CWRU faculty member?
*Author of original report: Table of contents of required Sana Loue book for her 'Ethics' course
*Author of original report: Dr. Loue has problems interacting with normal women MD students because of who she is and her 'issues'
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The Department of Epidemiology & Biostatistics is now being run by Sana Loue Ph.D. JD, Acting Director, Division of Epidemiology - who had me suspended last Fall (2007) after I went to the Dean of the Graduate School about a 'C' grade in her Epidemiology & Law Ethics class - a class that Dr. Loue conducted over 2 weekends in a very bizarre fashion in 2005.
I was in retrospect a THREAT to her becoming the Acting Director of the Department - so I couldn't challenge her grade in a public 'grieve the grade' way or she'd lose out (I was suspended before any discussion of the issues or before I could fill out the papers to challenge the grade; without due process)? There were inappropriate and very 'narrow' comments about everything from drug addiction and drug trials to Utilization Review Committees at Case Western/University Hospitals of Cleveland - where some unusual studies have been approved in the past with little thought about causing patient injury. There needed to be some revision/updating in how she conducts this 'ethics' class: the content, the time element (not even the required hours of 'class' as the Dean admitted), and the UNEXPLAINED 'personal' grading for projects/papers that she spends literally not one minute discussing with you - you can't learn anything from her. And she's now in charge of the Department of Epidemiology?
I was an MD/Masters student in the Department of Biostatistics since 2004 - who took her class as an elective. Dr. Loue writes a library of useless epidemiology books, all with a 'gender' problem sidebar (l*****n ethics, minority men who have sex with men, diversity issues in mood disorders, etc), and has no math/statistics in her classes/books. Her Encyclopedia of Women's Health is literally useless in any real 'normal' medical sense - not a book that I'd open for any problem for any patient.
She lied about me, to me, and had me recommended for psychiatric 'evaluation,' just to see what they'd find per Peter Poulos JD, instead of having a discussion as to why she gave me a 'C' - when I presented work that I had done with another Case Western Faculty Member - Dr. Michael Lederman - work that got published in Nature Reviews in 2006 about the use of microbicides for HIV. She graded even CWRU work as 'C' just because I presented it (don't have gender conflicts), and I had presented it to Dr. Lederman? She's done this to other professional (ie MD) students who challenge/disagree with her ideas, etc.
She's got no ability to run an ethics class, let alone be the Acting Direct of a Department, and needs to straighten out mine, and a number of other student 'conflicts' regarding her grading and class assessments - so that we can finish what we started or get our transcripts to finish elsewhere. She gives Cs, Ds, and a Fs to students when they disagree with her about even 'housekeeping' issues, ie grades, discussion points, interpretations of her books, movie viewings wasting class time. It isn't that her class is 'hard,' it's that the class was miserably run and disturbing in what she says - and you take it for the legal research ethics part, consent form writing, etc - none of which gets discussed in a way you can use on the job.
For instance one whole day of the two weekend class I attended in 2005 was spent viewing and discussing the movie 'Requiem for a Dream' - one of the most disturbing/effective films about the experience of drug addiction ever made (heroin). Cost = over $100/hour for class credit that day. But the course wasn't supposed to be about drug addiction or movie reviewing/film study, ie where every character was as doomed as my grade - it was about running drug trials supposedly and doing things ethically in patient research - at Clinics, University Hospitals and Drug Companies. And this wasn't/isn't medical epidemiology ethics for the professional who wants to do cancer epidemiology - why I was at Case Western Reserve (CWRU) Graduate School of Epidemiology & Biostatistics - the aim/goal/purpose that I wrote about on the admissions documents.
And her presentation in class, with part of her head shaved and dyed different colors, is a 'dress for success' presentation that no student can imitate and get accepted to the program with - you have to dress black-and-white and present yourself traditionally groomed. Academics seems to be all about amazon.com publications - even when the books are literally useless, hard to read/follow, extremely narrowly specialized, over-priced, and all about HIV, gender issues, and 'community advocacy' for the most part. But, despite the publications, her ethics class was run for a much lower level graduate student than an MD, much lower level student than her books target - at least in 2005.
The Cleveland Clinic has physicians trying to take this Epidemiology & Biostatistics Masters at Case Western Reserve University - because Case Western is the only place in town for this - but what you learn isn't useful in the job market or on the wards. And when you object, your life, degree track, and reputation is ruined. However, students who can talk about pregnant, drug-addicted, HIV-infected Hispanic women with mental illness, and laud Dr. Loue's projects and niche interests, can do well and are encouraged to apply. But for the straighter more traditional student, your loan is cancelled and you have to deal with the lawyers at Case Western (Peter Poulos who doesn't/can't answer a simple question for months or call the lawyer back, but likes to order 'evaluations' for unindicated reasons, ie to find out about your personal life and change the issue from Dr. Loue). Basically, your life is/will be made a literal mess because you disagreed with Dr. Sana Loue who has no common sense, business sense, or sense of where epidemiology in medicine is headed.
The Department of Epidemiology & Biostatistics is asked to expeditiously resolve my grade disagreement (explain the 'C' in a professional way for the transcript, ie she hated my paper, disagreed, etc) and the loan problems - which have continued for most of a year now (since October 2007). They cancelled the loan and Sallie Mae allows that this situation is unfortunate, but covered by the loan, ie starting and stopping a degree program for a grade disagreement problem, department focus clash, ie as CWRU is almost a unifocus HIV/AIDS/TB department and Cancer Epidemiology (or even general Infectious Disease Epidemiology), even with Ireland Cancer Center, gets little class time. The grade is still UNEXPLAINED, and there was no way to say the things that Dr. Loue wanted me to say in any paper - this is personal - that I don't agree with her 'take' on things from using explicit drug movies to interpreting a drug trial along the lines of who the principal woman investigator supposedly slept with (one paragraph of The Drug Trial book).
MD students seeking advanced degrees in Epidemiology & Biostatistics are advised NOT to try Case Western Reserve's program while Dr. Loue is the Acting Director unless you want your degree track minefielded and professional time wasted for her political ambitions.
Rita
Mayfield Heights, Ohio
U.S.A.
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#4 Consumer Comment
Why do you care about your grade, are you trying to get into Grad School - You have an MD
AUTHOR: Intersted Person - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
For those of you checking in, crying tears, ready to come to Rita's aid and march on wherever she wants you to march on...you might, perhaps, read just a couple of other reports filed by this person. Note that each one of these, by nature, must have it's own culprit. I'm counting 19, but I think I missed a few.
Read the below before making up your mind and check the other posts at least partially listed below.
http://med.ohio.gov/formala/35050161.pdf
Form your own opinion.
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#3 Author of original report
The material that I presented in class, and got a 'C' on, was later published in Nature Reviews by another CWRU faculty member?
AUTHOR: Rita - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 04, 2009
The material that I presented in Dr. Loue's class - aside from disagreeing with her heroin shoot-up movies, Drug Trial books mentioning CWRU hematology faculty in derogatory terms, and gender chapters - was material that I assimilated/worked on for another CWRU faculty member, Dr. Michael Lederman = material on vaginal microbicides and relevant to the AIDS ethics issues/drug trials. This publication material was apparently 'C' work to Dr. Loue, and the controversy continues as to whether 'academic freedom' allows her the leeway she took in this epidemiology ethics class, while the material was published as a review article in Nature Reviews and can be accessed at www.nature.com/nri/journal/v6/n5/abs/nri1848.html. This is kinda unjust and really stupid for one professor to 'C' another professor's research at the same institution = CWRU Medical Graduate School.
To Dr. Loue's class I brought high-quality research and information, and she brought all kinds of academic 'junk.' The 'C' grade needs to be (1) explained, and (2) re-assessed in a professional academic way. Dr. Loue shouldn't have been conducting any class on 2 weekends in between plane tickets elsewhere. Dr. Loue was not available in even a VIRTUAL sense for questions, help, comments, or clarifications/suggestions as to what she wanted on any assignment. Further she left no other epidemiology faculty member as a backup for her during her absences, to answer questions, etc. The then Department Chairman's Office had to distribute all her class materials for her - she can't do any paperwork. And now Dr. Loue is the Acting Director of the Department after my situation was swept 'under the academic rug?' This isn't very ETHICAL.
#2 Author of original report
Table of contents of required Sana Loue book for her 'Ethics' course
AUTHOR: Rita - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008
Case Studies in Forensic Epidemiology
Loue, Sana
2002, 218 p., Hardcover
ISBN: 978-0-306-46792-9
Table of contents
1. Epidemiology in the Courtroom: Dissonant Goals, Divergent Processes. 2. Case Study One: The Silicone Breast Implant Litigation. 3. Case Study Two: The E. Coli Investigation. 4. Epidemiology, Legislation, and Rulemaking. 5. Case Study Three: The FDA and Silicone Breast Implants. 6. Case Study Four: The Regulation of Tobacco. 7. Law, Epidemiology, and Community Organization and Advocacy. 8. Case Study Five: Alcohol and Drunk Driving. 9. Needle Exchange Program. 10. Epidemiology, Law, and Social Context. 11. Case Study Seven: Sex, Gender, and Sexuality. 12. Case Study Eight: The Medical use of Marijuana. Index.
This was one of the books that caused the problems - the chapter seven in a required text buy. The Ethics course was supposed to cover other kinds of ethics - cancer, medical diseases that have an epidemiological pattern, etc.
The silicone breast implant litigation was covered from the point of view of a lawyer - not a physician who had SEEN some of these cases = nothing wrong with silicone implants was her bottomline, just too much ado about nothing. E.Coli is not a major ethics problem, though a food service problem.
Tobacco has been pretty well over discussed. Community organization never works for epidemiology - it's ridiculous to waste MD/PhD time on this - we are all at academic centers and need better organization there.
Alcohol and drunk driving = not an epidemiological problem, more of a generic problem of life.
Needle exchange programs - never work. But the worst: epidemiology & social context, sex, gender, and sexuality - in a graduate course in ethics? This is not a gender, transgender, gay or l*****n forum - and this book should not be a required buy. Both Dr. B------ and I just copied the chapters that we had to - but Dr. Loue took it 'out' on me for not seeing the importance of gay, l*****n, bisexual and q***r studies - not my purpose in being at CWRU for Biostat/Epidemiology ethics studies.
The medical use of marijuana is a not an ethics issue except in Hawaii - where it is all over and tried anyways for cancer. The problems were the total frustration with Dr. Loue's focus - gender studies. Ethics is just not a gender studies forum - and pregnant HIV-positive mentally ill Hispanic woman are just not the major problem at medical centers in Ohio. Yes, we all need to respect each other's privacy and interests, but Dr. Loue in overstating her case denied every person in the class year of 2005 any general ethics learning for drug trial and other purposes.
One of the other books, The Drug Trial, Dr. Loue made fun of the woman physician when she dated (briefly) a journalist covering the media firestorm that errupt with the drug trial. Gee's the woman MD needed a little joy in her life without it being a conflict-of-interest everytime someone wrote about her. Make your own judgements on what goes on at CWRU Dept of Epidemiology. This isn't a course to take unless you like gender studies.
#1 Author of original report
Dr. Loue has problems interacting with normal women MD students because of who she is and her 'issues'
AUTHOR: Rita - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Look it's not fair to inflict on graduate students, with medical backgrounds, that they constantly discuss gender issues and issues from the point of view of someone who can write chapters on l*****n ethics - that's not general epidemiology. And Dr. Loue, because of who she is, can't interact normally with a woman student who questions, disagrees, etc with her. It doesn't come out in the basic epidemiology ethics lecture that she does, but it does if you spend a class or two with her. A woman physician dating a male journalist in one paragraph of a book is an ethics issue for her. She's not normal in her interactions with other woman who raise issues for her; if you question her statements, if you question question her everything goes even with marijuana for cancer pain or controversial-at-best needle exchange programs. And this should be discussed before she gives a student a 'C' or has them suspended from classes after sending a secretary in to check on that woman student in the CWRU bathrooms. A secretarial assistant from her office followed me to the bathroom, where I thought I could sit a moment and collect myself as my mother was in the hospital -but she thought she could use this 'upset' to say that it was about Dr. Loue. At the end at CWRU, I ws being tailed and evaluated in the women's bathroom on the ground floor of the medical school - and my upset in the bathroom was told to the Dean as a reason that I needed an evaluation for objecting to Dr. Loue's grade. Dr. Loue is not a normal woman, and not just because she writes volumes of books on issues that are non-issues for most physicians and women. Putting that kind of person in the Directorship of a Department, so that she can tail all women grad students that disagree with her to the bathroom, is inappropriate, cruel, bizarre, and bad judgment.
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