Report: PayPerPlay Audio Ads PPP/NAA/V2P NetAudioAds Vioce2Page Charles Heflin Larry Page Michael Knox
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PayPerPlay Audio Ads PPP/ NAA/ V2P NetAudioAds Vioce2Page Charles Heflin Larry Page Michael Knox PayPerPlay Audio Ads: Ripoff or just BAD Business? San Diego California
*Consumer Comment ..PAYPERPLAY IS IN BETA TESTING PHASE
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PayPerPlay Audio Ads PPP/NAA/V2P NetAudioAds Vioce2Page Charles Heflin Larry Page Michael Knox
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San Diego, California, 92121
U.S.A.
Submitted: 3/25/2008 4:19:25 PM
Modified: 4/8/2008 1:43:06 PM
Fr0gman
Mobridge, South DakotaPayPerPlay (PPP, Pay Per Play) audio ads is perhaps the strangest kind of ripoff that you will find. They are not scamming people out of money (YET!?!). What they are doing is convincing people to place code on their websites to trigger the delivery of 5 to 8 second audio advertisements each time a person visits the site. The idea that these ads will 'annoy' and drive users away in droves has been widely discussed in the blogosphere so I will not delve into that here.
Where the potential scamminess of this program comes to light is when you scratch a little deeper than the surface. See, PPP has partnered with Vioce2Page (Larry Host and Michael Knox). V2P, has reportedly forgotten to, failed to, neglected to or simply REFUSED to pay affiliates in another audio ad delivery scheme several years ago. Now they are back in the ring with the same kind of product with a different label: same hucksters too, with the exception of 'master affiliate recruiter' Charles Heflin. I say 'master affiliate recruiter' because this program either blames or credits Heflin for doing such a great job of recruiting publishers that they don't have enough ads to go around.
Speaking of not enough ads....
In the recruitment propaganda PPP/V2P/NAA 'claimed' to have a host of 'big named' advertisers 'waiting in the wigs' for the full rollout of this program. They quoted HBO, unnamed presidential candidates and an enigmatic 'search engine partner', but when pressed for a list none was forthcoming and NONE of the ads that I have heard lend any credence to their claims.
Their sales pitch also promised that publishers would 'get paid for every visitor'. My experience and that of others strongly suggests otherwise. In fact, over the past 2 months one publisher sent over 1.1 million impressions to this program with less than 2000 ads played. At their rate of $0.0035 per play, over 1 million impressions netted this publisher a whooping $6 and change. We can only trust and assume that these numbers are accurate because the PayPerPlay program has been plagued with statistics tracking outages and programming issues that never seem to get fully solved.
The chances of this program EVERY getting off the ground are infinitesimally small, but should they teach their turkey to fly everyone should be aware of the history of the people involved and use their better judgment BEFORE investing any time or money into promoting Pay Per Play audio ads.
Whatever you do, please DO NOT take my word for this. I am sure that I will be rebuffed as retaliating for chewing 'sour grapes'. Do yourself a favor and Google:
NetAudioAds Scam
PayPerPlay Scam
Vioce2Page Scam
You will find a wealth of VERY interesting information that YOU can use to decide if PayPerPlay/PPP/NetAudioAds/NAA/Vioce2Page/V2P audio ad delivery program is a scam, a ripoff or just a bunch of guys that have no clue what they are doing. Be sure to weigh ALL of the info BEFORE you invest anything into this deal.
Fr0gman
Mobridge, South Dakota
U.S.A.
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Updates & Rebuttals:
- Larry Host Also Attacked My Family MelissaR [4/5/2008 1:34:11 AM]
- PAYPERPLAY IS IN BETA TESTING PHASE Mike [4/8/2008 12:40:29 PM]
Larry Host Also Attacked My Family
Larry Host Threatened to publish negative information about my children in response to him being exposed as a DEAD BEAT dad.
Why anyone would do business with a company when their front man could not pass a background check to be a greater at Wal-Mart is beyond me!!
PAYPERPLAY IS IN BETA TESTING PHASE
Amazing,
I am testing system just as thousands of others are, and that is what BETA TEST mode does, test all the systems to insure proper operation, so what do you expect from a start up company?
I have scanned every single forum and blog on subject and I cannot verify any of what has been claimed by just a couple people who may have not been paid a few bucks from old affiliate positions supposedly owed them by supposedly same company.
Out of all the posts I have read, I have yet to see proof of any claims of not being paid, nor I heard of any significant money, just a few bucks which can easily fall between the cracks with all affiliate programs, so big deal, no one has lost money for there is no money being invested in this venture or previous ones. If I added up all the times affiliate programs have ripped me off, it would be in the dozens, so do what I do, I drop them and move on.
Scanning the internet, if there are only about three people I have read claim to have not received all commissions, and with tens of thousands involved at one time, I would say this is pretty good sign that this company is better than most, so time will tell, but heck, no one has lost a dime, so why waste your time, move on.
WOWZZA-WOWZZA.com
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