• Report: #847243
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American Northpak

  • Submitted: Thu, March 01, 2012
  • Updated: Wed, September 26, 2012

  • Reported By: packagingprofessional — Ellisville Missouri United States of America
American Northpak
27840 West Concrete Drive ingleside, Illinois United States of America

American Northpak Franck Hansen deceptive and lied about machinery condition location. Took our money and machine was 1800 miles further away. ingleside, Illinois

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Untrue

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My company acquires new and preowned machinery for end-users. We had an immediate need for a peice of equipment with certain specifications.

We inquired to American Northpak, Franck Hansen who sent two proposals to us. Our need was extremely urgent and we did, unfortunately, trust this company as they have a website, etc. and appeared to be in the business although we had never attempted to do business with them.

Our staff had to decide on a piece for this urgent application and decided to pursue a unit that Franck Hansen sent a proposal and:

  1. Told our staff that the machine was located in Detroit, MI area.

  2. Machine was in good running condition

  3. Machine had a Nordson glue system installed on it

  4. Machine had a Vacuum pick device

We had one photograph.
We accept responsibility for not physically seeing the unit, but time was of the essesnse on this project.
We wired the money to Franck Hansen.

  1. Franck would not respond to email requests for location of machine so that we could set up our own freight.

  2. Franck advised that he could get the machine to us on our date (2 days) but would not tell us the cost.

  3. Franck's secretary finally divulged to us that the machine was located in Nanton, Alberta Canada, 1800 miles further and across the border to the north, complicating our immediate need.

  4. Iimmediately, upon discovery, I sent Franck an email, as they would not answer their phone or return calls:

    Are you kidding me? Detroit? This machine is in Alberta Canada!! What is going on and someone is not telling us the truth here.

  Franck's response: 

When I was asked I said I thought it was near Detroit. I said I would have to confirm. I wasn't sure. The machine is exactly what we said. 

The only inconvenience we have caused is probably some additional freight cost.  I will determine if that is the case, and will make some adjustment for that.

We needed American Northpak's help in getting proper documention for the machine in order for us to get it across the border.
Franck refused to call us back and respond to emails with the exception of this email I sent to him:

On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:11 PM, :

Franck responded at 5:06 PM with:

What do you need?

We finally got our freight line to take care of this issue without the help of Franck Hansen.

  • We lost three days in getting the machine past customs, our cost of frieght increased by $ 2,400.00 USD plus custom duties.

  • The machine was in poor running condition

  • The machine did not have a nordson glue system installed

  • The machine did not have a vacuum pick device installed

  • Franck's latest response to our request to compensate us for the difference of freight from Detroit, MI verses Nanton, Alberta, Canada:

We contacted Franck today to ask for a rebate on the difference in freight. His response was as follows:

From our quote:

Northpak will supply its best appraisal as to the condition of the equipment, but encourage the buyer to make its own inspection whenever possible. The specifications and condition report listed herein must be

verified by buyer. Specifications of the machinery should be checked with the original manufacturer to verify compatibility and performance.  We cannot guarantee the accuracy of this information,although we have made our best effort to gather accurate information.  Northpak Company will supply its best appraisal as to the condition of the equipment, but encourages the buyer to make its owninspection.  Model and serial numbers, electrical requirements, size capability, year of original manufacture, and performance capabilities are to be verified by the buyer.  Seller does not represent that any specifications provided are accurate.  Seller will endeavor to provide any information available from previous owners of used machinery, or the manufacturer of the used machinery, but DOES NOT WARRANT THE ACCURACY OF THIS INFORMATION.  In all cases, the machinery will not be able to
exceed original manufacturers stated capability as to any aspect of performance, size range, speed, etc. We gave you the information that had been given to us.

My company obviously disputes Franck Hansen and his business practice. He did absolutely nothing to earn his money nor do we consider him to be an honest business associate.

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AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States of America)

As their complaint states they were in a panic for a machine, apparently because they had promised a delivery, and then didn't have a machine available to deliver.  We were asked for answers that we didn't have, and they insisted we give our best estimate.  We were incorrect on the location, an honest mistake.  The seller of the machine gave us a condition report, which we passed on with the warning that they should go see the machine to confirm all specs and condition.  They chose not to because of delivery urgency.
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