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Complaint Review: anglodutchdiamonds.com; Royal Antwerp Group; netpanda.net IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE CASH, SIMON FINDLAY, DUSTIN FINDLA - Toronto Ontario

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  • anglodutchdiamonds.com; Royal Antwerp Group; netpanda.net IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE CASH, SIMON FINDLAY, DUSTIN FINDLA 3189 Yonge St, Toronto, Ontario Canada

anglodutchdiamonds.com; Royal Antwerp Group; netpanda.net IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE CASH, SIMON FINDLAY, DUSTIN FINDLA IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE C Ponsi Scam! Group of highly trained fraud artists have been taken for tens of thousands of dollars. Lee Cash lured unsuspecting persons in with promises of 20 to 25% returns if started with a small investment, then the big dogs will take you to the cleaners Toronto Ontario Canada

*Consumer Comment: After 2 and a half years of this--enough already!

*Consumer Comment: Cheryl and her ilk have and are and will always be scammers

*UPDATE Employee: More Lies From Scammers...What Would You Expect?!

*Consumer Comment: Cheryle Bidner owes everything to Irving Dobrofsky

*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: shelley cash, ira cash, lee cash, michael (ernie the scumbag) risman are all scammers

*Consumer Comment: Cheryle Bidner trying to hang on.....

*Consumer Comment: Cheryle Bidner and her past fraud

*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: clients were not happy with Shelley

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The real truth

*Consumer Comment: Shelley Cash and Lee Ira Cash --too honest to work for Cheryle Bidner

*Consumer Comment: Cheryle Bidner is worried about competition?

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IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE CASH, SIMON FINDLAY, DUSTIN FINDLAY all from one family running BOUGUS COMPANIES…. Anglo Dutch Diamond Group with IRA LEE CASH is President and Lawrence Stevens A.K.A Lorrie Cladman A.K.A Laurie Cadman as business partner. Check out here:

http://www.anglodutchdiamonds.com/contest.php ??? YEA? CHECK HERE
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1510612/A-1631588-sapphire-is-worth-just-163200.html

Ponsi Scam! Group of highly trained fraud artists have been taken for tens of thousands of dollars. Lee Cash lured unsuspecting persons in with promises of 20 to 25% returns if started with a small investment. That was soon followed up by his father Shelley Cash who will take you to the cleaners.
Despite the claim on its website (anglodutchdiamonds.com) that it was incorporated in 1988, inquiries in the Netherlands show the company was set up in 2001. As for links to a past scam, read on.

Look how many virtual addresses they have!!! (NONE ARE REAL!!!) ALL FAKE!

2300 Yonge Street
Yonge Eglinton Centre
Suite 1600
Toronto, Ontario. M4P 1E4
T: 416-549-1664
F: 416-932-0771
E: info@anglodutchdiamonds.com

THE NETHERLANDS
Schipholboulevard 127-A3
1118 BG Schiphol.
Amsterdam
The Netherlands
T: 31-20-2014949
F: 31-20-2014999
E: info@anglodutchdiamonds.com

ISRAEL
1 Jabotinsky Street
Shimshon Building
Suite 1715
Ramat Gan 52520
Israel
Buying Office
E: info@anglodutchdiamonds.com

BANKERS
Fortis Bank (Nederland) NV
Nieuwstraat 79
5201 AP DEN BOSCH
the Netherlands
Telephone : +31-73-61-61 754 (contact person: Linda Ruiters)
Fax: +31-73-61 777

CIBC Liberty Village
120 Lynn Williams St.  
Toronto, Ontario
M6K 3N6
Phone: (416) 516-2036
Fax: (416) 516-5843

The Real Address? Look below, a bakery shop with all windows and doors pastered with papers and no access to inside!!!!

3189 Yonge St,
Toronto, ONTARIO
M4N 2K9
416-932-2177
info@anglodutchdiamonds.com

Anglo dutch group a.k.a Latrix Trust
I found Anglo Dutch Diamond Group's real controller and guess what? He is thousands of miles away. His name is Lawrence Stevens A.K.A Lorrie Cladman A.K.A Laurie Cadman and he is a Canadian with a home in Israel. Almost 15 years ago, Lawrence Stevens ran the Royal Antwerp Group, a gemstone investment company that used maildrop addresses and answering services in London and Antwerp.

So, is Anglo Dutch Diamond Group just a re-run of Royal Antwerp Group? Even if it isn't, why does it use accommodation addresses and why does Stevens hide behind a front company?
The IRA LEE FINDLAY CASH A.K.A IRA CASH A.K.A LEE CASH, SHELLEY CASH, LEAH FINDLAY CASH A.K.A LEAH LEE CASH, SIMON FINDLAY, DUSTIN FINDLAY family also has another scam company www.panda.net

Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1510612/A-1631588-sapphire-is-worth-just-163200.html#ixzz2ZnAkz2ir

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#11 Consumer Comment

After 2 and a half years of this--enough already!

AUTHOR: Carl - ()

POSTED: Monday, July 29, 2013

 These comments recently are becoming tiresome. Since March 2011 comments back and forth are getting almost childish.

Just carry on your businesses as adults and stop the vitrulent back and forth attacks. It doesnt look professional no matter where and why it comes from.

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#10 Consumer Comment

Cheryl and her ilk have and are and will always be scammers

AUTHOR: Adam - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

WHO are you kidding?--Cheryl was scamming in Florida and running from the law there and her ex and late boyfriend took her in out of pity. She couldnt pay her rent in 2009 and still owes money to a lot of people. Ernie worked for Irving and her and so did everyone else. The REAL reason theat Lee and Shelley left is cause she is an addict and lies. Without them she wouldnt have had any business.. Now she has the illustrious Jack Kronis there(look at his past and the fact he cant go to Europe or the States! All the surgery and botox and fancy words and lies aint gonna help this hippo.

She needs an elevator to go up her stairs at 64 Elderwood . And all one has to do is ask this: where and what was she doing before 2009??? You wont get a verifiable answer cause she was scamming then . And why would Shelley have made her millions of dollars and get a 2013 Bentley GT convertible as a Christmas bonus last year.. from her "company".. There is sooooo much she doesnt want anyone to know and the best she can do is make up stories.

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#9 UPDATE Employee

More Lies From Scammers...What Would You Expect?!

AUTHOR: Capital CD Defender - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

 I am in the office of Capital CD 5 days a week cleaning up the mess of the Cashes as I try to strighten out their unsatisfied clients. It is so painfully obvious that these posts and these lies are being perpetrated by the same person/people. The Cashes.  Their family of scumbaggery branches far out to drug addicts, criminals, felons, phone scammers and they're just projecting there own guilt on a family of companies that try to honour their business practices.

Ask Mr. Lee/Ira about his brotherinlaw Ernie (the scumbag) Chevrette. A wife beating phone scam artist for 20 years that is abusive and sinister beyone reproach!  Ask Ira/Lee about Diko Khatcherian.  Another man that has a gem history of stealing and swindling. Is guilt by association a possibility? Certainly. But the Cashes are a happy family reaching in to the pockets of people taking what they want. 

Everyone has a past and theres will catch up to them and the scumbags they are with, right Unclie Lawrie? Blood relatives of the Cashes in every direction and each worst than the last. Capital CD needed to dump 600 lbs of garbage and they did, the Cashes. Good luck boys.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Cheryle Bidner owes everything to Irving Dobrofsky

AUTHOR: Brandon - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

Irving brought her up from Florida and she and her daughter Asleigh were doing the sweepstakes scam in Fort Lauderdale to eek out a "living"..she had nothing up to 2009 Summer and had to beg borrow and well you know the rest..check her Facebook page and her daughter too..Irving could never get along with her and neither could Harvey or Adam or Shelley or Ernie or Lee and many others cause she would make up false invoices with her supplier and then shave away extra dollars to herself thinking the sales people wouldnt find out...poor jack and the rest then and today..People dont leave a company that have worked for 4 years simply to start their own company...they leave because the owner is out of control, being audited for federal taxes, is never at the office and thinks she should get more money cause she needs more money..and the baloney malarkey that she needed to stage a meeting with Murray Chousky is exactly that..Baloney Supreme..after all her cosmetic expenses and fancy car she couldnt find a monkey in a zoo that would look at her. Until she realized that Murray dressed like the late Irving (rip) and would spend her money and his time with her.

 This is all about an ego...nothing else..an ego with a very high sudden lifestyle that is falling apart...pure and simple. It ISNT about Lee or Shelley or anything that is being thrown up to take the attention away from exactly what it is....

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#7 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

shelley cash, ira cash, lee cash, michael (ernie the scumbag) risman are all scammers

AUTHOR: I Am David, RipoffReport is Goliath - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

 The only scammers at Capital Color Diamonds were lee / ira cash and his father shelley cash:

1.  There are a lot of reports and rebuttals on this site about Cheryle Bidner, devonshire diamonds, capital colored diamonds, capital cd, etc...that have been popping up in a recently. It's rather coincidental that Shelley Cash quit / was dismissed after an out of control screaming match at the office ONE day before all these nasty posts started showing up that all trash talk CHeryle and her companies.

2.  The first posting was one that mentioned Murray Chousky being involved with Capital CD. Murray does not work for Capital CD. He was only there for that one day for the purpose of Shelley's dismissal. As part of the whole charade, it was said outloud that Murray was the new manager at the company. Once Shelley had left, everyone was told that Murray in fact does not work and is not going to work at the company...so, when the following day the first of a slew of posts is put on the ripoff report and reports that Murray is one of the "scammers" at the company...there is only one possibility: 

SHELLEY CASH was for the report. It is most likely that Ira / Lee Cash actually wrote and posted the report..in fact, it was probably lee's idea to post a damaging report because he has done it before. Lee, along with Shelley have opened their own diamond company and that is why they have posted this damaging report...all the client names that they stole from Capital CD can now be called by them and pointed to the report so that they will likely lose confidence in  Capital and do business with the newly formed cash company...perhaps some of the clients will switch sides...time will tell.

In this report there is a consumer comment saying how honourable Shelley and Lee are!!!  WHAT A JOKE! 

3.  The report states that Cheryle et al. are all scammers. Shelley and Lee worked at the company for years. I guess they are scammers too!  Or, more likely:

Cheryle et al. are NOT scammers, but victims of fraudulent slanderous internet reports posted by disgruntled employees who are anything but honourable.

Shelley Cash thinks that he is the greatest salesman in the world. He may be a good salesman, but honourable he is not. As for sales...he's good at it...but definitely not the greatest.

 

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#6 Consumer Comment

Cheryle Bidner trying to hang on.....

AUTHOR: in saskatchewan - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

Shelley Cash and Lee Cash were and are still honest but after workung at Cheryle Bidner's "companies" they decided to make sure they stayed honest. Yes Shelley Cash was inolved with her in the past and decided to avoid the problems she has had in her past(Check her history with the local constabulary). The best she can hope to do to avoid anyone focusing on her is to turn the attention away from her and her "companies".. All you have to do is look closely at her and her past and present and her future becomes obvious.

Incidentally just exactly how and who ever set up Devonshire to begin with and why. Start there.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Cheryle Bidner and her past fraud

AUTHOR: in saskatchewan - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 27, 2013

Cheryle Bidner has a storied and colorful past less fancy than the diamonds she sells.

Her beau was Irving Dobrofsky--out of respect to the fact he passed away last year it is better to let the readers arrive at their own conclusions...however

Cheryle Bidner worked in boiler rooms and scams all of her life and was flat broke 4 years ago until the Late Irving helped her out yet again

She never knew how a diamond was cut and had less clarity of mind as a result of various "medicinal" additives

Business took off very well and her new found wealth on Bentleys and a house  on Elderwood in Forest Hill, Toronto and 3 condos in Florida as well as terrible cosmetic "upgrades" were the best she had.

If you want a real look at her and arrive at your own conclusion take a good long hard look at her on the Lang and OLeary Report on CBC--her 70 year old stretched face framed in a Beyonce hairstyle and her junior high school education cant be hidden. This isnt a corporate genius but really a lucky telemarketer that finally hit on the best scam of her life!  

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#4 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

clients were not happy with Shelley

AUTHOR: I Am David, RipoffReport is Goliath - ()

POSTED: Friday, July 26, 2013

 Shelley may have been honest in the past...but he must have known he was going to leave and start his own company with his son Lee Cash. I have spoken with Shelley s clients ... he said whatever he had to in order to sell a diamond in the past six months. Prior to that, Capital Colored Diamonds was a reputable company. The only thing that was every done wrong at this company is that Lee Cash (AKA Ira Cash) knew he was going to be leaving (to work for a company owned by Ira or Lee Cash) and Shelley, naturally will side with his son and play ball in the attempted defamation of the company they used to work for.

The bottom line with this is that Shelley and Lee worked with Cheryle at Capital CD for many years happily. I find it odd that now that they have left the company all these unsubstantiated posts start coming up. I guess Ira or Lee (whatever his real name is) Cash and his father Shelley are afraid that they will not have any success on their own. Why else would they attempt to defame their former employer...

Shelley and Ira or Lee were good salesmen but have the combined IQ of a retarded mouse. The only hope they have in success is to post slanderous information about their former employer and using that information to attempt to steal clients from Capital CD. They do not have the business savvy to build a successful business on their own. The only hope they have is to try to steal a succesful business.

Personally, I would never invest with thieves like Shelley Cash and Ira Cash. 

By the way....Shelley has been to jail for Fraud. Cheryle Bidner on the other hand has not.

You be the judge of who to trust.

Last note...IT does not really matter as Shelley and Ira or Lee are in business with a guy named Ernie (or should I say Risman)...the business they have just started is  completely fraudulent and they will all be in jail VERY soon. I know that for a fact.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The real truth

AUTHOR: I Am David, RipoffReport is Goliath - ()

POSTED: Friday, July 26, 2013

 Shelley Cash and Ira (Lee) Cash used to work for Cheryle. They left the company and immediatley started to post a lot a things that are detrimental to their former employer and the corresponding company.

This is a disgruntled employee situation that is absolutely ridiculous.

 

The real scammers in this situation are Shelley and Lee Cash or Ira Cash (whatever his real name is)...yeah like CASH is his real last name...LOL

The bottom line is that Shelley and Lee have been planning their own business for a long time...now they have started on their own and believe that attempting to damage their former employer (now competition) is to their benefit.

Personally, I would never do business with scum like Shelley and Ira or Lee Cash who are willing to post untrue information in an attempt to damage their competition. True success comes from within...not from lashing out and those who do not deserve it

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#2 Consumer Comment

Shelley Cash and Lee Ira Cash --too honest to work for Cheryle Bidner

AUTHOR: in saskatchewan - ()

POSTED: Thursday, July 25, 2013

I and my family were privileged to work with Mr Shelley Cash and his son Lee when they were working for about 4 years in order to built up a portfolio in diamonds for us.They both were professional and hard working. My understanding was that Ms Bidner's company even provided their efforts with a leased 2013 Bentley convertible and other bonuses. I can only surmise that their departure from Devonshire/Capital Colored/ Capital CD etc was the result of them being unhappy with working in an enviroment that did not meet Mr. Cash's high standards. whatever is being written about them ironically could only be true if similar business ethics were being promoted at those companies with the concurrence of the owner herself. We have met Lee Cash and found him to be honest and forthright and  we will continue to deal with him and his father Shelley in the future and will not recommend his previous employer to anyone at all. It is shocking and quite upsetting to have anyone promote such aggressive comments about 2 very competent people unless the source wishes to cause them distress. How is it even possible that they only became so dishonest after leaving their employer? The answer simply is that they were too honest to remain there even with all the bonuses and benefits. Ironically all the information about old news about Lee's uncle  and not very verifiable frankly. If anything needs to be looked at closely it is the companies that Ms Bidner "ran" and how. Her background was in telemarketing and various product sales but was never in diamonds as an owner until 4 years ago. The current website for Capital CD purports to undercut the competition by at least 25%.. We have researched this with various parties and have found that it is simply impossible to make a claim as outrageous and desperate as that.  What else is outrageous is how a company could have made as much money on the backs of these two very capable and honest people and then have anyone claim that they are less than honest! The obvious conclusion is that they left and now the company realizes that they will do better on their own and the company they left is virtually in a state of panic and disarray.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Cheryle Bidner is worried about competition?

AUTHOR: noah.g - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, July 24, 2013

WOW!---considering that Lee Ira Cash and Shelley Cash were her best employees before they were disgusted enough to leave her scamroom one has to wonder why she is so upset..Her Late and great partner Irving Dobrofsky set her up in the business and couldnt watch her  go out of control and left there happily.  Then she hired others with vague promises and gifts. They too saw right through her and her "style". Overpriced and heavy duty markups blended with a purported history in diamonds...actually a history but not even in diamonds. Her ex hubby Michael resnik left too  happily. His siblings Ruth and Larry and Roslynn and Hyndi have a lot to say about Cheryle too. So when you read the capital letters and all that it hopes to do ask yourself why the desperate always seem so innocent.  Much more can be written about Cheryle and her company but why bother. At least some people stay cool and others explode with anger and jealousy.  Her clients were very happy with Shelley Cash and his son because they are honest and hard working. They chose to leave because of the atmosphere--check out her two star employees Jack Kronis and Murray Chousky and put the puzzle together.  

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