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Report: #196450

Complaint Review: Boyajian Law Offices - Rutherford New Jersey

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  • Boyajian Law Offices 201 Route 17 North, 5th Floor Rutherford, New Jersey U.S.A.

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I filed bankrupcty in the Fall of 2005 after being served lawsuit papers from Providian. Just as my bankruptcy is nearing discharge, I have been receiving threatening collection letters and constant phone calls from Boyajian Law Offices saying that they purchased my account and I now owe THEM the money from Providian. An original creditor is an original creditor, and I do not owe Boyajian anything, as the bankruptcy is protecting me from the debt I allegedely incurred with Providian years ago.

Originally, I had paid for Disability Insurance on the Providian account, and when I became disabled and went to activate that, they refused to honor it, even though I had Doctors testify to my current physical state. I was told I had to be deemed Disabled by the Social Security Administration to be considered disabled by Providian. I am currently retaining legal services to attempt to get Disability from Social Security, but I am afraid it will be a long time before I am able to do so.
I looked up this Boyajian Law Offices and found out just how unrelenting and aggressive they can be and realized I really needed some help with these people.

Holli Anne
Sun Valley, Nevada
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/14/2006 06:06 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/boyajian-law-offices/rutherford-new-jersey-07070-2574/boyajjan-law-offices-ripoff-refuses-to-acknowledge-my-federal-bankruptcy-discharge-continu-196450. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#8 Consumer Comment

Discharge is irrelevant to the report

AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 01, 2006

Steve,

Whether the bankruptcy ultimately resulted in a discharge is irrelevant to the complaint.

The complaint alleges that the collection activities occured between the filing and the discharge. As such, the activities presumptively violated the automatic stay, although they did not YET violate the discharge order. And, even if a discharge order never came down, the activities were still a violation. In other words, the failure to receive a discharge does not ratify automatic stay violations.

The automatic stay and the discharge are completely distinct bases for forbidding collection activities. Ideally, the automatic stay ends when the discharge order comes down. If the case goes wrong, however, it could be dismissed without a discharge, in which case the debtor is just back to square one.

If the complainant filed for Chapter 7 back in October, which is the most likely case, the discharge order probably came down in February.

Also, in the interest of being an annoying know-it-all, the discharge order does not terminate a bankruptcy case. Bankruptcy cases end with a dismissal order, usually a couple of months after the discharge, releasing the trustee and all other professionals of their duties in connection with the estate.

On a side note, it's good to be back Steve! I just got tired of RoR for a while. Then I realized that there really isn't anything better to do. Now I remember how much fun this is!

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#7 Consumer Comment

Thats true..However..

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 30, 2006

Aafes is absolutely correct..And Timothy..Where have you been hiding? It's been a while.

Now, I made one observation from the original post. Notice the filing date was fall of 2005. I did not see any reference to a discharge date. A BK is not final until discharged.

Was the BK discharged? When?

Anyway, just send this idiot a CEASE COMMUNICATION letter.

Boyajain is incapable of actually filing a lawsuit, AND is ONLY licensed as an attorney [barely] in CA, andn is only licensed as a debt collector in NJ.

I am familiar with this shady operation.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Excellent work, Aafes!

AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 30, 2006

Aafes, I know you've been around for a while. But on behalf of the long-time, loyal RoR contributors, let me say welcome! Your above analysis was excellent, helpful, and spot on.

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Oh, this is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay.

AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 14, 2006

This is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay. If you filed via an Attorney you need to notify him/her ASAP that you are receiving these calls. If you filed pro se you need to notify the bankruptcy court. Believe me this will be handled. The court does not take violation of the automatic stay lightly.

The automatic stay prohibits:

Beginning or continuing law suits, COLLECTION CALLS, repossessions, foreclosure sales and garnishments or levies.

Unless this clown requested "relief" from the automatic stay, attended a hearing and was granted such relief, they are in violation. As this is an unsecured credit card debt it is highly unlikely relief was requested or granted as this is usually only done for secured debts.

Anyone who willfully violates the stay in the case of an individual is liable for actual damages caused by the violation and sometimes for punitive damages. Some courts confine the right to damages to individual debtors and deny damages for stay violations as to corporate debtors.

Since the court usually takes several days to several weeks to mail creditors notice of the bankruptcy, it is incumbent on you or your attorney to give actual notice to creditors who might take action without knowledge of the stay.

Creditor actions taken after the stay is in place are generally void or voidable: that is, any action the creditor takes in violation of the stay has no legal effect.

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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Oh, this is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay.

AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 14, 2006

This is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay. If you filed via an Attorney you need to notify him/her ASAP that you are receiving these calls. If you filed pro se you need to notify the bankruptcy court. Believe me this will be handled. The court does not take violation of the automatic stay lightly.

The automatic stay prohibits:

Beginning or continuing law suits, COLLECTION CALLS, repossessions, foreclosure sales and garnishments or levies.

Unless this clown requested "relief" from the automatic stay, attended a hearing and was granted such relief, they are in violation. As this is an unsecured credit card debt it is highly unlikely relief was requested or granted as this is usually only done for secured debts.

Anyone who willfully violates the stay in the case of an individual is liable for actual damages caused by the violation and sometimes for punitive damages. Some courts confine the right to damages to individual debtors and deny damages for stay violations as to corporate debtors.

Since the court usually takes several days to several weeks to mail creditors notice of the bankruptcy, it is incumbent on you or your attorney to give actual notice to creditors who might take action without knowledge of the stay.

Creditor actions taken after the stay is in place are generally void or voidable: that is, any action the creditor takes in violation of the stay has no legal effect.

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Oh, this is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay.

AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 14, 2006

This is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay. If you filed via an Attorney you need to notify him/her ASAP that you are receiving these calls. If you filed pro se you need to notify the bankruptcy court. Believe me this will be handled. The court does not take violation of the automatic stay lightly.

The automatic stay prohibits:

Beginning or continuing law suits, COLLECTION CALLS, repossessions, foreclosure sales and garnishments or levies.

Unless this clown requested "relief" from the automatic stay, attended a hearing and was granted such relief, they are in violation. As this is an unsecured credit card debt it is highly unlikely relief was requested or granted as this is usually only done for secured debts.

Anyone who willfully violates the stay in the case of an individual is liable for actual damages caused by the violation and sometimes for punitive damages. Some courts confine the right to damages to individual debtors and deny damages for stay violations as to corporate debtors.

Since the court usually takes several days to several weeks to mail creditors notice of the bankruptcy, it is incumbent on you or your attorney to give actual notice to creditors who might take action without knowledge of the stay.

Creditor actions taken after the stay is in place are generally void or voidable: that is, any action the creditor takes in violation of the stay has no legal effect.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Oh, this is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay.

AUTHOR: Aafes - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 14, 2006

This is even easier than changing your number. This clown attorney is in violation of the Automatic Stay. If you filed via an Attorney you need to notify him/her ASAP that you are receiving these calls. If you filed pro se you need to notify the bankruptcy court. Believe me this will be handled. The court does not take violation of the automatic stay lightly.

The automatic stay prohibits:

Beginning or continuing law suits, COLLECTION CALLS, repossessions, foreclosure sales and garnishments or levies.

Unless this clown requested "relief" from the automatic stay, attended a hearing and was granted such relief, they are in violation. As this is an unsecured credit card debt it is highly unlikely relief was requested or granted as this is usually only done for secured debts.

Anyone who willfully violates the stay in the case of an individual is liable for actual damages caused by the violation and sometimes for punitive damages. Some courts confine the right to damages to individual debtors and deny damages for stay violations as to corporate debtors.

Since the court usually takes several days to several weeks to mail creditors notice of the bankruptcy, it is incumbent on you or your attorney to give actual notice to creditors who might take action without knowledge of the stay.

Creditor actions taken after the stay is in place are generally void or voidable: that is, any action the creditor takes in violation of the stay has no legal effect.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Holli Anne...This is easy!...

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 14, 2006

Jackie is a total moron and is barely a lawyer. He is only licensed in CA. He is a debt buyer and debt collector and has a reputation for blatant FDCPA violations.

You should change your phone# to an unlisted one. This will make him crazy! You can do this for free if you tell the phone co you are getting harassing phone calls from an UNKNOWN caller.

Then go to budhibbs.com and get a sample of a cease communication letter to send by certified mail return reciept requested, and to read all about this lowlife.

See all of the other posts here on Rip Off Report.

I have also used a nice little fax machine trick that works nicely. Have unlimited long distance and about 150 sheets of paper?

Have fun with this fool. After all, turnabout is fair play!

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