• Report: #466717
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  • Submitted: Wed, July 01, 2009
  • Updated: Tue, September 29, 2009

  • Reported By:Delray Beach Florida
1324 Seven Springs Blvd #131 New Port Richey, Florida U.S.A.


*Author of original report: More Lies from McLane

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: The Facts.

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On 5/4/09, our company, First Consumer Debt Consolidation made contact with Leads Online, Inc of 3755 Avocado Blvd # 305, La Mesa Ca 91941 to inquire about their services.

We received a call back from a representative named Brian Mclane, who was in Florida and Leads Online, Inc is also a registered business in Florida as well. Having purchased leads for the last 10 years, everything sounded fine and an insertion order was placed on 5/8/09 for 100 Live Transfer calls and the amount of $4,000.00. The invoice was issued from a company called Self Made Man.whose registered agent in Florida was the same attorney...J. Matthew Marquardt. We researched Leads Online and saw on their website that they were affiliated with Aggressive Marketing and Management and Mr. McLane's email address was ammgroup@gmail.com all appeared to check out.

Typical of a Lead Company they required payment up front from the client so a Cashier's Check (Bank of America # 7064780) was Fedex'd (track # 8673-3939-9703) on 5/12/09.Mr. Mclane confirmed confirmation on 5/13/09 and the Cashier's check was confirmed cashed that same day.

The leads were never delivered. Mr. Mclane would not refund the money The invoice for SELFMADEMAN, INC was date 5/8/09 and the invoice # is 50809a. Mr. McLane did send a check for $700.00 but that was it.bringing the refund due to $3.300.00.

Mr. Mclane claims he paid a vendor with our money and the vendor took off. Even after repeated questioning Mr. Mclane would not give the name of the vendor.....who had run off with his and his other clients money...very fishy.

And the websites continue to operate and sales presentations go on....every time you ask for the money, Mr. Mclane cries the blues and says he will do what he can(take people's money) and if pressed simply says get an attorney and a judgement.....it appears that $4,000 is the perfect amount of money.....not quite enough to leave small claims court, and cost prohibitve for hiring an attorney as the laws of diminishing returns take effect......an almost perfect con.BUYER BEWARE

Delray Beach, Florida

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#1 Author of original report

More Lies from McLane

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

On 8/2/09, Mr. Mclane wrote a rebuttal that he spoke to our attorneys(FALSE) and that he also gave us his attorneys name and phone(FALSE)..

Mr. Mclane conveniently would never mention the name of the company that supposedly took our money, and he conveniently would never mention the name of his attorney when speaking with us....it is all about smoke and mirrors.

Mr.Mclane is no longer in Florida and Consumers in Northern Kentucky and the Cincinnatti area of Ohio should be aware.

We may in fact be the only client Mr. Mclane did not refund, as  he never intended to do so in the first place....a first class con........


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AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

As an internet marketing professional for over 12 years, I have never dealt with anyone as unreasonble as Mark. The fact is, I only spoke with Mark once. He had his assitant contact me, and also his in house attorney.

I represented myself as the sole owner of Selfmademan, Inc, a Florida Corporation. As Mark knows by the email that was originally sent, as well as the information on the invoice in which he was provided. At no time did I ever claim to represent myself as Leads Online, or Aggressive Marketing. Those are companies I had a previous relationship with and have never offered a product or service on their behalf without their knowledge.

To be clear, I did agree to generate live transfers, but was unable to deliver. I immediately made that clear and accepted responsibility. I explained that I was frustrated with the direction that the debt lead industry was going and that I would no longer be offering services in that field. (I have not, and will not, offer any debt leads or transfers in the future). I do not have a website up and am no longer in that industry.

I told Marks Attorney that I would be personally refunding their $4000 (as selfmademan was no longer in business), but that because they were not the only ones affected, that it may take a couple months as I was going to refund all clients that had purchased transfers. She was appreciative and respected my business ethics and morals for choosing to do the right thing. I immediately overnighted a check in the amount of $700 as a good faith gesture. I assumed both parties were satisfied.

Upon their receipt of that check, I was informed that they were not a finance company and were not willing to wait for the balance. They assured me that they would take aggressive legal action if I did not forward the balance within 24 hours. I provided the name and address of my attorney and told them it was unfortunate they chose to pursue that option. I felt an obligation to all my clients that they receive a refund in as timely a manner as possible. I did not feel it was fair to make Marks refund more of a priority than other clients. I told them if they changed their mind, to please let me know and hopefully, we could work it out.

As of today, my attorney has not heard from anyone at First Consumer Debt Consolidation. I am still willing to refund the remaining $3300 without going through the legal channels if they would like. They have all of my contact information and know where to find me.

As a side note, it appears that Mark is eager to slander me on rip off report and only provide his version of what happened, but does not pay attention to the complaints posted online against his own company.

Finally, Marks company has made a point to contact Leads Online and Aggressive Marketing (companies which I am not involved in) telling them that they were involved in this "scam" and they will also be included in the lawsuit, and he will make every effort to slander them online as well. I would like to apologize to the principles of those companies. Marks lack of professionalism and business ethics are a prime example of his character. I have offered to assist those companies should they chose to take legal action for the baseless claims made against them.

I am quite proud of my reputation in the online industry. Although I faced monumental setbacks in the debt lead sector, I have refunded everyone that was affected by those setbacks, except Marks company. He is the only company that chose to pursue a refund through the legal channel.

I will continue to do business in an honest and ethical way, in other verticals, in the online world.

Brian McLane
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