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Complaint Review: Camfrog Camshare LCC - Austin, Texas Nationwide

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  • Camfrog Camshare LCC PO Box 42227 Nationwide U.S.A.

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I would just like to state how Camfrog has become like many other company's a money grabbing business who care about nothing except for there back pockets.

They constantly De-Activate users Pro-Codes for breach of there own TOS, and won't give them back, they De-Activate Pro Codes for users who use there Server Pro Codes on more than one room, even tho they never had a problem until recently where they have now decided that Pro Codes can only be used once, even tho they cost over 125 in British Pounds, and they can De-activate them in minutes for a so called TOS break, when they let there own Camfrog Rooms be Opped by Operators who have broken the TOS themselfs, so half there Co-Owners and Operators should not be Operating in official Camfrog Rooms. But the reason they do this, is because there so desperate for "mugs" to police there rooms, there quite happy to give 60% of users who have been De-Opped for various reasons back onto the Op team, and then the other 40% for what ever reason will not, not forgetting taking away there Pro Codes (34 per code).

There constantly listening to users Emailing about Hosters and Room Owners who use there own money to buy these over priced codes, and de-activating or even cancelling there Server IP,s from connecting to the Camfrog Central Server, again not only costing you to purchase another code, but then Server bills because they ban the Server IP,and the Server company have to set up a new IP.

If it was not for Hosting company's who are stupid enough to keep buying codes they De-activate there would be no Camfrog, I am sure Camfrog is mainly financed by Pro Codes (especially server) and now they have Virtual gifts which can cost upto 250 and last a mere 3 months!!!!

Basicly Camfrog is a Rip Off do as they please, and can de-activate your code when and where ever they like, it's not even invested to improve the program, time after time, there upgrades are useless, and even cost the users more money in bandwidth just to Op in there poor official rooms, so they make more money.

And Camfrog is full off Hackers, because of the poor set-up there program is, which lets people have peoples IP,s from there rooms, spam links in im boxes, which not everyone will know not to click on links, which they seem to not be bothered about. But why would they, hackers take your code, and then you have to buy a new one, easy money isn't it!!!

Summary is, Pro Codes are de-activated when ever they feel like it, there are two sets of TOS rules, one for them, and one for you, so they go ahead and Mac Ban (which is actually useless and a file ban) a user sometimes on a made up email, knowing they take away your code to, and then you have to buy another code because most of the time they also de-activate your Pro Code when your banned.

Also if your a Camfrog Op (or as I call them Slave for Camfrog, as you don't get paid nothing) you can be de-opped and re-opped even if you have broken TOS just so some mug Ops there rooms. The likes of users called 4anthony (drugs on cam and priavte parts), Babsie (taking peoples IP,s in Camfrog rooms) Dilly65 (drunk in a all age room) etc...Camfrog is a money grabbing business and make there own TOS a absolute joke, and we all need to act now!!!!

Thanks for listening, I now have to decide if I buy another 2 Pro Codes they de-activated because I was using it twice, even tho I have used it twice for 3 years or go and spend it on a program who actually care about there users not there pockets.

Camfrog users
UK
United Kingdom

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#3 General Comment

camfrog the shameful village

AUTHOR: Antero777 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 12, 2010

 I began at camfrog about 18 months ago, looking forward to the joys of communication technology. After a few months I decided to purchase a pro code so that I could be an operator at the time. I simply wanted to help with a vacancy in the time slot of my region. After a short time I was attacked, abused and mistreated not only by immoral users of the program, but by the room owners themselves.

For no genuine reason I was mistreated by Camfrog room owners who chose to show dishonest favortism to friends rather than someone employed by the service that was donating time and bandwidth to help ensure the safety of other users of the program.

Overall my experience with camfrog has been a disapointment. I have found the program to be amateurish in design and the staff corrupt and dishonest.

The program has no real protection for minors and all ages rooms, simply are  not so.

I have seen all kinds of abuses on camfrog, from the hiring of young women to work as operators, which is wrong in my opinion as it exposes them to sexual abuse continually. To adults posing as children to communicate with minors. Racism is rampant on the program with many instances of terrorist views and seditious content. Large numbers of paedophiles continually patrol the rooms

Camfrog is clearly not suitable for anyone under the age of 18

Punishments  from operators or room owners are of little consequence as those who continually break the rules use proxies to work around bans and punishments.

The dishonesty of some operators is disgraceful handing out bans for 3 days for the most trivial excuses. I personally was banned also for no reason other than  because of my race.

I would advise anyone considering purchasing camfrog software not to do so. The program is unsafe and the administration is amateur in behavior.

There is no help available for problems that arise, emails are not answered or bounced. And room owners are dishonest and  show favortism to friends. Legitimate complaints are quickly covered up with bans and punishments,and complaints regarding staff members conduct are also met with bans and punishments.

Ultimately Camfrog should be closed down and the security measures for minors addressed. In fact minors should not be allowed to use the program at all. As camfrog borders on the verge of grooming of minors for paedophiles by continually exposing them to lewd conduct and pornographic material.

Men who are masturbating continually ask children to view there webcam.

This kind of disgusting behavior happens on a continual basis and room owners can do little to prevent it. 

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

So true

AUTHOR: IowaFarmer - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 08, 2009

What ya are saying is ever so true. And it is getting worse and not better. I do not know how long you have been on Camfrog. I myself remember the beginning when it all started. Operators were better, everything ran smoother, and was much more fair. Their TOS now though has contridictions to itself.  

So much of waht ya say is so true. The operators, the hackers, the comfusing policies. I have seen instances of racism, internet bullying from operators. Then there is a major policy issue regarding kids. Long ago room owner had to ensure that children were not creating 18+ names. It was done by a few simple measure. Face on Cam, and ID checks. No one anymore does any of this at all. All room owners care about is getting people into there rooms.

One method to report Camfrog is the the Better Business Bureau. The link is http://austin.bbb.org/ .

And deactivating ServerPro codes is expensive to the customer, but Camfrog does not care. In another post here I placed in the name of the Camfrog owner. Found it thru the State of Texas website It is Public Domain stuff.

Jonathon Edward Hundley

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Camfrog Camshare LCC

AUTHOR: Camfrog users - (United Kingdom)

POSTED: Sunday, December 28, 2008

Update....

After talking to various user and Hosters on Camfrog, it has come to light that in the past 3 Months alone over 20 people have either been Mac Banned, had codes de-activated for stupid reasons, which Camfrog don't even half the time have the decency even to tell you why, you just can't sign in, and they take away your Pro Code, and ignore your Emails for a explanation why and say there to busy.

They Mac Ban you and your code say thank you very much, knowing it's easy to get back on the program, as many do it, and they leave them on the program knowing there new Camfrog names even tho they were Mac Banned for TOS violaitons. Because they know, everytime you get banned, as most of these will be banned again you have to buy another Pro Code.

Easy money isn't it!!!!

Anyone who agrees with this post please add your own, it's about time, people around the world who use this program and the law in Texas listened to the users around the world, as they rip people off all around the world, I am even writing to the UK goverment bout this program as we speak as I feel so strongly about it!!!

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