Report: #1404767

Complaint Review: Capital One

  • Submitted: Sat, October 07, 2017
  • Updated: Sat, October 07, 2017
  • Reported By: Ben — Chamisal New Mexico USA
  • Capital One

    Nationwide
    USA

Capital One Capital One Credit Cards, Capital One Business Cards Unauthorized Pull of Credit Report, Hard Inquiries Without My Consent Nationwide

*General Comment: Credit Report

*Consumer Comment: Incorrect

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On July 21, I applied for a Capital One business credit card. I've heard that they have good credit cards and the approval rate from them is fairly high.

My credit score was decent, high enough that I should have been qualified for the card. In the application, I authorized ONE and only ONE credit check. The day of application, they pulled a hard inquiry on my credit report. Fair enough, as that's part of the application process. 

Then they told me I had to provide documentation of the existence of my business and my business address. I faxed them a copy of my business's Articles of Incorporation, fair enough. Now, I run my business from home, as many, many people do, which means I don't have a physical address for my business; my home is by business address. Unfortunately, I've moved since filing my business, so the address of my Articles of Incorporation does not match my current one (the one I used on the application)

I faxed them a copy of my driver's license with my current address. Because, you know, if there is anything in the world that legally proves my address, it would be my driver's license. However, when I called them, they said that isn't good enough, and that I needed something like a utility bill showing the address. Um, okay, that doesn't seem very secure and easy to forge, but whatever. I faxed a copy of my most recent phone bill. I called them again, but apparently after faxing documents each time, it takes 2-3 business days for them to add the documentation to my application. So by now, over a week has gone by.

When I was able to talk to someone who could look up my application, they said my personal phone bill didn't prove my address. I explained that I run my business from home, and that was by business address. Finally, they told me that the phone bill must show my business name on it. I have no idea why they didn't just tell me this from the beginning.

I asked the agent if she could at least tell me if the finances and creditworthiness has been reviewed, because I don't want to waste my time going out of my way, faxing more ridiculous stuff to them, only to have them decline my application later because of finances. She told me she didn't have that information because that is a different department. I asked if she could check with that department, and she said she's not allowed to do that. I asked to talk to a manager, and he told me the same thing - he isn't allowed to do that. What a stupid policy, if you ask me. It's sad that their employees aren't even able to help me with a simple question.

I finally called my utility to ask if they could add my business name in addition to my name to my bill. They said no problem, but my next bill wouldn't show up for almost a month. I called Capital One again to make sure this would work for them, and they said that I had 90 days from the application date to submit documentation. This means I had until October 19. 

Finally, late September, I got a bill from Verizon with my business address on it. Good news, I thought.

I couldn't have been more wrong.

Of course, after faxing, I once again had to wait 3 business days before calling them. When I did, they told me that the application was "so old" that it had been put into archives. This is quite contradictory to what the previous agent told me, who said I had until Oct 19 to complete the application. She then told me that she was willing to pull the application out of archives, but it would take 4 business days. That was all she said, and again, she said she couldnt't tell me anything else about my application status. I said sure, I'd like the application to be resumed. 

Then, on October 2, I received a notification from Experian that Capital One had pulled a new hard inquiry on me. I did NOT give them authorization to them to do so. All the agent said was that they were going to retrieve the application from archives. She said absolutely nothing about pulling a new inquiry or needing to refresh my credit report.

Now, during this whole time, I've been charging business expenses to my personal credit cards because I have no choice. I can't just close my business down while waiting for these fools to get their act together. This, of course, brings down my credit score, but I wasn't worried because I had applied for the Capital One card in July, and supposedly my application was valid until October 19.

Finally, this week, I received a rejection letter from them saying my personal credit balances are too high, so they are declining my application. To say the least, I am extremely displeased that I went through all this, just to be treated this way and have my application declined, even though it should have been approved if they had used the credit report that I authorized, not the unauthorized one. What a ripoff!

Had I known they were going to check my credit again, I would have requested them to cancel the application, and I could apply for a new card in a few months from now, as I have some funds coming in later in the year which could payoff some of my personal cards. But since I was not informed of this, I was just slapped in the face with a hard inquiry, without my permission.

I'm not going to bother calling them because I don't think I could avoid swearing at them and raising my voice with them. I doubt they would do anything over the phone anyway, considering their phone agents are so useless and misinformed. Instead, I sent a formal letter to them stating that I did not authorize the hard inquiry and I am requesting that they remove it from my credit report. I still doubt they will do anything, but if it's not removed within 30 days, I am going to dispute it with the credit bureaus.

In the meantime, I am going to have to apply for a new credit card (with a different company of course), which will give me another hard hit on my credit, in addition to this unauthorized one.

In summary, if you don't want to be treated like dirt, find a better credit card company.

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#1 General Comment

Credit Report

AUTHOR: doorguy - (USA)

And as a side note, I have been in business since 2007 with over $1M in annual revenue. I have a Capital One card for business use with a very generous credit limit. It comes with a lot of perks including 2% cash back on ALL purchases which adds up quick. I use it in place of the manufacturers standard 1% NET20 discount as I gain the extra 1%. The folks at Capital One have been very good to deal with including the time I had an unauthorized charge.  I would recommend them to anyone.

The ONLY downfall I have with them is they report this credit card to your personal credit report. Now, if you pay it off each month, this is not a bad thing because it shows low usage with a high limit. HOWEVER, I am not a fan of mixing business and personal together. Out of all of my accounts, Capital One is the ONLY one who reports to personal - presumably because of the PG. And I wouldn't even care if they reported it correctly as BUSINESS but they report it as PERSONAL.  And, if you carry any kind of balance, it will drop your score. I try to make sure that my accounting department makes the payment or pays off the card by the 25th of the month as they send updates to bureau on the 1st of the month.

Good luck!

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#2 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

First regardless of what you think your credit is, a company can set it's own standards for who they allow to borrow their money.  So you can "think" you are good enough, but that doesn't make it so.

As for the application. You did actually authorize both credit pulls by the first application. That application gave them the authorization to pull your credit in order to see if you were approved. Most applications are done within a very short time. But, because you had to prove your business address was actually where you ran your
business the original report was over 30 days old. Since the application was still active they were authorized to pull the credit report again with your authorization from the original application. By the way the address verification and credit pull are both standard and nothing was unique about it.

So you can attempt to dispute the pull on your credit report, and it may get removed. BUT that is not really your issue, your real issue is the rest of your actions.

On the common FICO Score Credit Inquiries make up 10% of the score, but "die" off fairly quickly, as within a few months they have little effect and within 2 years they are removed(where negative items remain for 7 years). However, Credit Utilization(usage) is worth 30% of the score. Where during this time you ran up your other credit cards, and that caused tremendously more "damage" to your score than a second inquiry.

Oh and before you fall into the trap..let me help you out. If you try and use their delay as an excuse as to why you had to run up the other cards..you have just proven yourself to be a high credit risk. Because if you NEEDED to run up the cards, that NEED shows an increased risk that there may be other issues. Higher risk = lower score.

The best thing you can do now is WAIT. Get the other cards paid down as that is your bigger issue, and don't apply for another card until you do. Since you now have the business address issues handled it should go a lot smoother. If you say you can't wait then once again you have proven why you are considered a high risk and possibly will be denied another card at this time.  But even if you get one...be very careful about running that one up as well.

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