Carvel Inc. John Carvel INCONSIDERATE LIAR Rochester, New York

Oh, so the poster is lying? I used to work for a distributor in Liverpool, Ny. They pulled the same thing on me. Left me at a gas station because the manager was a disrespectful jerk and didn't like the fact that I wasn't going to take any of his crap. Seems that all of these distributors follow the same policy. I know they pay you to sit in the office and ma****bate in front of your computer and write stupid crap on here, but please. Shut up. 

This rebuttal is in response to the Carvel representative(TheLiedetector) rebuttal regarding the former employee statements.  As a one time employee(I worked there around the same time period as Alex) I can say that the statements made by Alex are in fact true. I have personally witnessed firsthand the claims made as well as heard the same claims made by employees working there at the time. 

First I will start with the ad used to attract prospective employees.  The ad which I responded to appeared on Craigslist Rochester NY.  It stated a need for carpet shampooers with a guaranteed $350 a week salary.  i was hired after a short interview and then the job description started being conveniently revised to be a sales job for Kirby cleaners.  Three days of unpaid training was provided to learn how to pack/unpack, configure, clean, and sell the system.  The ad should have accurately reflected the actual job description.  The $350 guarantee is basically a mirage.  You would have to sell more than one unit in order to get any pay and it wasn't uncommon for someone to not get paid at all for a week.  Employees who weren't college students were encouraged to play the "student trying to win a scholarship" story.

Now let's review the facts and fiction of what Alex said.  I never had the "pleasure" of taking the trip to the Pennsylvania  border with John Carvel.  I did however have the pleasure of being in the hazardous situation of riding in a vehicle with 6 other people which only had space to carry 4 passengers not including the driver.  I personally witnessed calls being made for the purpose of narcotics sales while on company time and in a company vehicle.  The person making the call also showed me his product and went into stories of how this along with alcohol and girls was common in the company vehicle when Carvel was not in the van with him.

I cannot vouch for being abandoned in the middle of rural Pa by Carvel, but from the many things I heard about him I would not be surprised if he did in fact do that.  TheLiedector claims that everything said by Alex was lies and were made by someone who was bitter from not being successful. In the time I was there I worked hard to do what was required of me each week and had next to nothing to show for it.  I witnessed others do the same and eventually having to leave.  No one can afford to work 10 hour days for 6 days a week and only get paid $200 or sometimes nothing at all.  There is a 15 demonstration per week stipulation that must be met in order to get paid at all.  Once you get out there you realize that it's very difficult to meet this expectation.

I had to clear the air on all of this and my insight does matters because it's not arbitrary: I worked there and understand where Alex was coming from.  If TheLiedtector is in fact a company representative then she would be better served trying to remedy these issues rather than being accusatory and sweeping them under the rug.  It's not good to mislead and swindle the honest and willing individuals.  It's not a good way to run a business nor is it a good way to represent the Kirby company. Kirby makes great, quality products and it's a shame how Carvel Distributions' business practices takes away from that.    

I am a current rep for Carvel and was when the above fake statements supposedly occurred, Carvel is a great place to work and offers a great opportunity to make a lot of money, advance rapidly and have fun, drugs and drinking has never been allowed and I have never seen it allowed here, and people making false statements just because there lazy and quit on there way to work and are unhappy isn't cool in my book. I find it funny that the business has been around for many many years and your the only complaint. Don't ruin a great opportunity for others by lying and posting garbage, just because the position wasn't for you and your unhappy!!!

Kirbys Customer Relations Department encourages anyone with questions or concerns about an independent distributorship to contact the Department at 1-800-494-8586, Monday through Friday, from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., EST.  The Department can also be reached by email at consumer@kirbywhq.com.