Report: #123599

Complaint Review: Cashflow-Direct - George Stewart - James Lyons

  • Submitted: Sun, December 19, 2004
  • Updated: Thu, December 07, 2006
  • Reported By: Dallas Texas
  • Cashflow-Direct - George Stewart - James Lyons
    5025 N. Central Ave. #521
    Phoenix, Arizona


*UPDATE Employee: it's not fair

*Consumer Suggestion: It's the old web site counseling con again! be glad you only lost $800!

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I contracted with Cashflow-Direct on 8/25/04 for them to set up an internet business with websites for E-Bay, and Tiger Casino for which I was charged $495.00 plus a monthly hosting fee of $11.95. I told the original account executives who sold me on the program that I had no experience, and they promised me unlimited coaching, hands on training and the first month's advertising free of charge.

After about three weeks my websites were set up but there wasn't any activity. When I called to find out what was happening, I was told by the receptionist that I was misinformed,there was to be no free advertising. Then I was referred to another coach who told me he would handle the initial advertising for me (which covered 1,000 hits on the EBay site only) for a six-month period. This cost an additional $298.00.

Finally on 10/13/04 activity started showing up and by 10/23/04 there were supposedly 1,061 hits. E-Bay cancelled their affiliation on 10/26/04, but I never received any income.

I kept calling the company for some straight answers, but was given the runaround by the receptionist. I even asked to speak to whoever was in charge of the operation and was given the names of George Stewart and James Lyons. No one ever returned my calls.

Finally, on my last call to cancel the monthly hosting fee, the receptionist told me there must have been a mistake - there couldn't have been that many hits in a ten-day period and that my advertising was for six months. She then talked with someone and offered me a deal: The company is starting a new promotion - I could work on commission selling this program and my hosting fee would be cancelled.

Has anyone out there had any dealings with these scam artists? I was hoping to make extra income to enable me to retire soon, and would surely like to get my hard-earned money back.

Dallas, Texas
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#1 UPDATE Employee

it's not fair

AUTHOR: Kyle - (U.S.A.)

i recently was ripped off by first national card..a phony credit card. in taking what i learned from that mistake, i thereafter started this new job at cashflow-direct. something about it seemed too fishy. one lady said no thank you, youre a pyramid scheme. then today another female employee said i feel so bad ripping these people off. i asked what she meant, and she said well, this company is a fraud, nobody really makes their money back or profits. then informing me not to give my real name out over the phone, of which i have been doing.
i found it odd, my company doesnt set up business opportunities to any residents of arizona, when we live here and our building is here.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

It's the old web site counseling con again! be glad you only lost $800!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Shirley, first, be glad you only lost $800. Other idiots have paid as much as $6,000 and didn't even get a web site at all.

Second, why didn't you go down to the library and check out books on web sites and web marketing? Why is it that all the people with no experience always choose to pay hundreds or thousands to some fraud?

If you have no idea what you're doing, read a book by somebody who does know!

That's common sense, right?

You never run to a fraud who just plans to steal your money!

I'm sure you'd like to get your money back! Unfortunately, the crooks you handed the money to aren't likely to agree with you!

And, last, let me save you a bunch of time. You see, even if you make this great web site that you're thinking of, it really won't matter much.

There's no gold mine waiting for you on the internet! Never was, never will be.

If there was, the frauds would be doing it! Instead, they are cheating you!

Before you get all excited about a web site again, talk to someone who is selling on the web. See what they make. You'll probably find it's more like $800 a month, not $8,000. That's $200 a week. Hell, you could just as easily make that in a minimum wage job.

Web sites don't make a huge profit because there is so much competition. And, because the cost of maintaining the web business costs quite a lot.

Consider this an expensive lesson!
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