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Complaint Review: DT Advancement - Blaine Minnesota

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  • DT Advancement Blaine, Minnesota USA

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DT advancement seemed like a good deal, in their craigslist ad, they posted $250/week base pay. That sounds good right? So I called the number, and they said they were a family owned company, looking to expand their staff, so I figured,"Hey, what better way to get in with a company than early on?". They told me to come in for an interview the next monday, and I took all the info and geared up for my interview. 

I thought it was strange they did not give me a job description like EVERY company EVER.

 

So monday rolls around, and I search up their address on my GPS. Why did the company name not come up for their building search? Ah, no big deal. So i arrive at their "office". A building in the industrial area off of University Ave. No big deal. I roll up to the parking lot. 15, 20 cars parked. I thought this was a small family owned company looking to expand? No big deal. I walk in, and there is a sign pointing to a full lobby of people waiting for their interviews. 

 

I was given a clipboard with a "sign in sheet'. The page was nearly full! Still I remembered how nice the deal sounded, you would have to be crazy to not respond to an ad like that. After watching about 5 people leave an office before me, i was called in. A man named Bryant introduced gimself to me. He seemed like a nice enough guy, though i still did not have any idea what the job was. He proceeded to ask me questions that seemed typical, and after talking for about 10 minutes, he wrote down a number and said to call in at 4:30 to see if I would get a second interview. Why would i need a second interview? No big deal.

 

I called the number at 4:30, like instructed, and was told that i had gotten in for a second interview. Hooray! But what am i doing? She told me that it would all be explained tomorrow. 

 

I show up the next day and i am greeted by the same amount of people as before, which troubled me. I walked in, and they ushered me into a room with about 20 others, and a man named Wally started telling us about his childhood, this went on for a good 3 hours, and they started calling us out 1 by 1. When I was called out, he asked me if I would work hard for him and be dedicated. Of course I would! At $1000 a month at 18 I would be more than happy to! So i was invited in for "training".

 

I came in the next day, expecting to know what I was going to be doing. Nope, instead i saw about 9 people from the previous 2 days back with me. We were brought into the same room, but this time, it was bryant that addressed us. He brought out this big lunky vacuum cleaner, and started explaining what it did. What, are we getting a cleaning job? I was still kind of nervous, and was not bold enough to ask. 4 or 5 hours later, we were let out, and told to come the next day prepared to learn. At this point i was very cautious, due to everyone i talked about to it being disapproving. They warned that i was getting into a scheme and i was going to be scammed out of time and money, but i persisted nontheless.

 

Finally, the day to find out what the hell we are supposed to be doing. Selling kirbys! I had never heard of a kirby, but it was an awesome machine, it did everything better than a regular vacuum, and i was excited to sell to people. One problem. I did not want to do door to door sales, in fear of my safety and respect of people not wanting to be harassed. I asked bryant if we did any door to door sales, and he reassured me MULTIPLE times that i wouldnt be going into strangers homes. I felt much more comforted and continued training. By the end of that day, i knew the ins and outs of a kirby, and he gave me a script to learn. I went home that night and studied like my life depended on it. At $250 a sale of comission, you bet your a*s im going to sell as many as possible. Friday was the same thing as the other days, but at the end of this day, he told us to do at least 3 demos and gave us all kirbys to take home and practice with. 

 

I did my demos, i called bryant during them like i was supposed to, and everyone i did my demo for was OUTRAGED at the price. $1400 for a vacuum. Who in their right mind would pay this much, even for a state of the art vacuum. Nobody bought one. But thats okay! becuase Wally said that statistically 1/3 demos is a sale! I must of had a bad streak. 

 

I came in monday ready for appointments to do, and prepared to go into peoples homes and demo my very hardest. What reception i got i was very shocked by. Another trainee and I were loaded into a stinky, unmarked mini van, and shipped out to beyond the city limits of wyoming MN. But, i was promised NO door to door. The other guys in the van told me otherwise, and they said that you rarely ever see apointments, and that door to door sales were how you made sales. I was very angry, and i even heard of another trainee making them drive him back to the office due to their scheming and lies.

 

I quit the next day, and got a job doing something honest.

 

If you are into going door to door, and harassing people into high pressure sales, go work for DT advancement. They will shower you with all the hardcore amounts of money you can make, but nobody ever does. By the way, i peeled a sticker off one of their kirby boxes, and it was covering the real price. Let me just say that $1400 is an absolute ripoff, and they con people into buying a vacuum. 

 

If you respond to their ad, and you see any of these things happening, please. Listen to me. Im not slandering their name, im just explaining what i wish i knew before i fell victim to their week waste of my time.

 

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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Happy employee

AUTHOR: Mikeys435 - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 21, 2017

 Ur happy cause ur high as hell... didnt u tell me they pay around $400 a vaccum and sell them for how much ???? Don't you feel bad using high-pressure sales on old people to get on the buy vacuums?

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

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AUTHOR: Melissa - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 31, 2017

My name is Melissa Lemke.  My exboyfriend filed the "Happy Employee" report in attempt to get me fired.  I  can provide many police reports ranging from criminal damage to property to harrassment on several different  occasions dating back to Feb. 2016.  I will be reporting this to the police as well.   

I am an employee  of the company, where they do perform background checks and enforce substance abuse policies and I have always gotten paid for the work I do.   My exboyfriend, however, is not an employee of the company, and knows nothing about their pay structure or policies.

 

Freedom of speech is everyone's right, but defamation of character is not.     

 

 

 

 

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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Happy employee

AUTHOR: pauly - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, May 22, 2017

 I lied remove that

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#4 Consumer Comment

Happy employee

AUTHOR: pauly - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, May 21, 2017

 If ur happy working there then u must be smoking meth with Melissa lemke who answers the phones .... why would a famliy owned company that's not corrupt here meth addicts ....is it because she's easy to take advantage of ?? Is it because she so high she will do work for guys after she off work 4 free ... or is it because u guys are all about $$$$ and you dont care who u screw over or how you get it ??? From what i hear you guys scam on your taxes also

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#3 Author of original report

Have i disrupted your ability to employ victims?

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POSTED: Sunday, August 23, 2015

This is obviously an attempt to cleanse this company of the facts i have presented. Its up to whoever reads this to figure out what is truth and lie. I merely stated my experience, whether you say it to be false or not, I still went through everything i said i did. I have no reason to lie, and am only informing the reader of what to expect. Now, if you are going to copy/paste your newspaper ad on my post again, at least make it obvious that you are not the desk greeter. Good day.

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#2 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

Amazing Family Owned Company!

AUTHOR: ILOVEMYJOB - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 19, 2015

I am an employee at D.T. Advancement. I love my job, I have always been paid what I am promised for the work I have done. I am very upset that someone would slander this amazing family owned company. 

 

1. When you call to set up an interview we tell you about the different departments we are hiring for. We need to review your application before we can offer you a position. Just like any other company. Also the location is incorrect. 

2. All of the figures listed are incorrect. "$250/week base pay", "$250 comission", and the selling price of the Kirby is incorrect as well. 

3. We offer you a postion after your second interview. It is not uncommon to have a second interview with a company. The orientation/second interview is only one hour long so stating that "Wally went on for 3 hours" is also false. 

4. When you are in training you get a break every hour-hour and a half or as you need it. We buy you lunch and give you plenty of down time. You stated you were "let out after 4-5 hours" which is false.

5. We have several different marketing options. None are mandatory. If you were going door to door, it was 100% your choice. The vehicle used is kept spotless and also has current tabs and plates. You are told on your first day of training about all the options and you are told you need to have 4 personal appointments set up before we check out equipment to you.

This is a very honest and upfront company. 

I would like to see proof of all figures listed and proof that you were even employed at D.T. Advancemnt since none of what you stated is accurate.

Next time you write a review, please get that facts right.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

please call Consumer Relations

AUTHOR: Kirby-Customer Relations - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, July 27, 2015

 Hello,

 

We read your post and would like to speak with you regarding your experience. 

Although you were not an employee of The Kirby Company, we understand the independent distributorships represent our brand.  Please call our Consumer Relations Department to discuss your recent experience so we can review with the owner of that distributorship.   Representatives may be reached at 1-800-494-8586, Monday through Friday 8:00 am- 5:00 pm, EST.

 

We look forward to speaking with you. 

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