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Complaint Review: ELOCAL LISTING, WebPros.net, All Resellers - Temecula California

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  • ELOCAL LISTING, WebPros.net, All Resellers 28765 Single Oak Dr, Ste 250 Temecula, California U.S.A.

ELOCAL LISTINGELOCAL LISTING, WebPros, ELOCAL LISTING, WebPros.net, All Resellers They All SCAM Each Other and the customers and Investors Temecula California

*Consumer Comment: "Your vitriol is completely understandable", If you are considering using this company

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Someone got Celestially PWNED!

*UPDATE Employee: Keep up the good work, show the world how desperate you have become to hide the truth!

*Consumer Comment: just some reading

*Consumer Comment: just some reading

*Consumer Comment: just some reading

*Consumer Comment: just some reading

*UPDATE Employee: eLocals pathetic attempts to return the favor...

*UPDATE Employee: The Real Problem with Employees

*UPDATE Employee: LMFAO at least we know how to spell correctly on this REALM w***e...

*Consumer Suggestion: Bitches

*Consumer Suggestion: Bitches

*Consumer Suggestion: Bitches

*Consumer Suggestion: Bitches

*Consumer Suggestion: The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

*Consumer Suggestion: The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

*Consumer Suggestion: The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

*Consumer Suggestion: The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

*UPDATE Employee: HR is a entity that is completely worthless especially at elocal, right buffy?

*UPDATE Employee: What can HR do ?

*UPDATE Employee: Day 1 - Drugs At the work place,

*UPDATE Employee: So we begin the process of revelations.

*UPDATE Employee: So we begin the process of revelations.

*UPDATE Employee: People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

*UPDATE Employee: People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

*UPDATE Employee: People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

*UPDATE Employee: People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

*UPDATE Employee: The truth... like you would know anything about it.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Real Story

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Vanessa becareful what you wish for!

*Consumer Comment: My husband was a e local reseller

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??

*UPDATE Employee: shutup jeff!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: All of this is true!!!

*UPDATE Employee: If you honestly believe that.....

*UPDATE Employee: Thanks Jared...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am the real J. B.

*UPDATE Employee: Again all you have to do is stand up...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: WebPros.net has never been a part of Elocal!

*UPDATE Employee: Dont make me laugh!

*UPDATE Employee: Diversions, diversions....

*UPDATE Employee: You're kidding right?

*UPDATE Employee: Ah, now we are getting somewhere...

*Author of original report: Smoke and Mirrors

*UPDATE Employee: it's not our fault

*UPDATE Employee: Wait a MINUTE!

*UPDATE Employee: Oh Jared, Jared, Jared

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Elocal Listing, It's resellers, WebPros.net, SEO, Investors have no product but a SCAM
Elocal Listing has been operating for almost two years (prior name was Zone Communications). They have NO PRODUCT but a service to make it easier for local businesses to get exposure in the local listings on Yahoo, Google, MSN, and other search engines. They created a reseller/Agent/Affiliate program which really basterdized the service. The scripts were good, but not reality. As people realized they could do it themselves, or after Elocal screwed their own resellers, the Resellers would branch out and do it themselves. Only problem is you can no guarantee positioning. Originally they had great rankings until the market got saturated. Never a patent pending but plenty of meeting with yahoo and Google. Plenty of behind the scenes meetings to try and boost rankings. It was all a throw the orders up against the wall and see what stuck process. Their backend Operations has never flowed, at least not with ample results. All they wanted to do was build it up fast and sell before the customers realized they were taken advantage of.

A good example is eBoost Media which tried to take down eLocal Listings, and sued each other. eBoost had even a lower standard of operations. People released from eLocal went to work for eBoost. The fued was on. eBoost has now changed names to cover their past, but clients still recognize the people and process that eLocal started. ALL BAD!

Do not pay for the service, you can do it yourself.
If elocal wants to claim to be a real SEO company, why did they have to retain the services of Blackwood and WebPros? WebPros.net won't even list their real office address (use a rented P.O. Box with and address) because they work from multiple houses. They may know how to do traditional SEO, but they have more fun taking the customers from eLocal or its other resellers. No communication between the two. Elocal couldn't bribe John from WebPros to hire on to Elocal and shut his company down. What next? Tim Judd the CEO had to purchase another company to do SEO, but the results still are lagging.

Bottom line is there is a circle of people that keep scamming small businesses with promises they cannot keep. Do it yourself. There are enough tutorials on line on how to get a local listing.

One of the original owners had a brother that was a very good salesperson (BSer) open his own resellership and caused the most problems with overpromising. All he wanted was to get paid to sell without regard for the customer. He has since gone away after he almost bankrupt the company with his bogus dollar deals.
Don't get me wrong, some of the employees are good people who try their best, but most are trained to take advantage of clients and then threaten or ignore calls.

I know all firsthand because I did work there and was very loyal, until they screwed me. Now I have moved on and have partnered with others to actually do a real service. I have many friends that still work there, and keep me up to date with all the crap going on. Funny thing is there are some that work at eLocal that really have talent and can improve rankings, but the upper management doesn't relize or ignore because ther get intimidated because someone else can do it better.
A lot has been written about sex and swinging. It is true, but the bottom line is that should not matter as long as the service has been provided. Investors do not care because they are there to make money . . . unless they get sued for harassment. People let that be. We know the sex addict Redhead has made the rounds with the SR. Execs. Job security I guess.

Elocal Listings is not going away. It may be hurting a bit, but will not shut down. They are a billing company of revenue, and that has a street value to it. Someone will buy it, but not for the billions they brainwashed the company lower level workers with.

Good luck with your new Herb Business too. Last I heard was that when many of the employees were given samples to try (most are recovering addicts or closet users just read the past reviews), they all stopped using the product because they couldn't handle it DID NOT WORK just like the local listing service.

Good luck Elocal Listings, Elocal Hosting, Search Initiatives, and all the other names you and your resellers and past resellers you screwed go by.

People keep hiding behind fake names. We all know who you are. How childish people are, even eLocal's own management team.

Jbag
Murrieta, California
U.S.A.

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#47 Consumer Comment

"Your vitriol is completely understandable", If you are considering using this company

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 26, 2009

If you are considering using this company…

1) Do sufficient research into this company before handing them your CC (Credit Card) information ESPECIALLY IF YOUR GOING TO GIVE SOMEONE YOUR CREDIT CARD INFO OVER THE PHONE. Most of the people working at elocal have criminal backgrounds and are poorly screened for handling credit card information.

An effective type of research can be done numerous ways, here is the most effective. Open up google.com or yahoo.com and search for “elocal listing”, “elocal scams”, “elocal reviews”. You will notice not just one, but many different institutions, social groups and industry professionals who all say elocal listing is a ripoff! Why, you might ask? What they are trying to get you to purchase is not really marketing, it's a simple local business submission to 2 major search engines and we will include the third. You will also get a bogus elocal profile which is really a distraction from the fact they will be charging you monthly for something that is virtually doing nothing. There is nothing difficult about the submission process it only takes 5 minutes of your time for each application, BEST OF ALL ITS FREE! So why does a company charge you $29.00- $59.00 (the price seems to drop once you call and threaten to cancel)? The fact is they are a scam, they continue to make money off of unsuspecting and uneducated small business owners providing a “product” that doesn't really exist, only a 15 minute task that never needs to be managed. Ask yourself do you want to do business with a company who plays this type of game? 2) Here is the local listing application for Google: https://www.google.com/local/add/ 3) Here is the local listing application for Yahoo: http://listings.local.yahoo.com/basic.php 4) Here is the local listing application for MSN/MSN Live: https://ssl.search.live.com/listings/BusinessSearch.aspxz

Once you have hung up the phone on the sales agent, continue to research this company and you will see many reports from all types of businesses and sites ((((Redacted))) bbb.com, (((Redacted), If you dive into the ripoffreports (www.ripoffreport.com and search “elocal” and “elocal listing”) you will see no real clear rebuttals to any of the facts stated on these reports, only more disinformation and confusion by an incompetent staff that knows no better.

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#46 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Someone got Celestially PWNED!

AUTHOR: The Real Miguel V - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 21, 2009

This group of people are a bunch of s**t talkers who have nothing better to do then to talk down to a company that gave them an opportunity. If you look at most of these reports they aren't about consumers who have been ripped off instead this is a bunch of little panzees who aren't happy with the way the working conditions are and because of this they have gone into hiding and publicly harassing a company and its employees without having any real facts to back their claims.

since we are on the topic of being "pathetic" how pathetic do you think it is to talk s**t behind a monitor? Stop making your threats because you can't do s**t, things won't go as planned this is the second time I have owned your s**t and I will do it again IF I have to. Keep peoples names out of your mouth (especially those i know!) because your going to eventually going to slip and when you do your going to have a company ready to kick your a*s, this including myself. The whole Ronda being a w***e is a bunch of bullshit, yeah she can be a b***h sometimes (I would know ^_-, but what female isn't?) but this female has more integrity than any other female I have met (oh girls just wanna have fun, right Nena ^_-). you wish you had an ounce of this females strength, its ok maybe one day you can be a little like her.

If your going to talk about drugs it seems like you know a lot about them, have you bought them from the people you accused? how would you know what drugs they supposedly do? Your all are some lame a*s people who should hold hands while jumping off a bridge.

Next time you plan on calling me out on this site make sure you really want to play with someone like me newbs. PEACE m**o's

P.S. Take care of my God Daughter ^_^, you know who you are.

Since you a$$holes like quotes here is one for you-

"You can outdistance that which is running after you,but not what is running inside you."

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#45 UPDATE Employee

Keep up the good work, show the world how desperate you have become to hide the truth!

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Since we are on the topic of what we are going to post, every time you create an additional non relevant rebuttal we will create a new Report that highlights your actions. Just remember we ain't hiding the truth, you are. GoodLuck!

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#44 Consumer Comment

just some reading

AUTHOR: Fill Itup - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10 A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Cush. 14 And the name of the third river is Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." 18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." 19 So out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper fit for him. 21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; 22 and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." 24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed.

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" 10 And he said, "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11 He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" 12 The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." 13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." 14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." 16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." 17 And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return." 20 The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21 And the LORD God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them. 22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever" -- 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man; and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

now that has wasted your time just like 99% of the reports on in this thread, To Quote "Tommorrow is always another day"each new day will bring more 3 pages of 1189. Happy reading

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#43 Consumer Comment

just some reading

AUTHOR: Fill Itup - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10 A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Cush. 14 And the name of the third river is Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." 18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." 19 So out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper fit for him. 21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; 22 and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." 24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed.

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" 10 And he said, "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11 He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" 12 The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." 13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." 14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." 16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." 17 And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return." 20 The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21 And the LORD God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them. 22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever" -- 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man; and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

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just some reading

AUTHOR: Fill Itup - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10 A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Cush. 14 And the name of the third river is Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." 18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." 19 So out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper fit for him. 21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; 22 and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." 24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed.

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" 10 And he said, "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11 He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" 12 The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." 13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." 14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." 16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." 17 And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return." 20 The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21 And the LORD God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them. 22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever" -- 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man; and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

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just some reading

AUTHOR: Fill Itup - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10 A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which flows around the whole land of Cush. 14 And the name of the third river is Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." 18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." 19 So out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper fit for him. 21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; 22 and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." 24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed.

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" 10 And he said, "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11 He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" 12 The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." 13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." 14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." 16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." 17 And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return." 20 The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21 And the LORD God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them. 22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever" -- 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man; and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

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eLocals pathetic attempts to return the favor...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

We are now experiencing attacks on some of our satellite sites by eLocal's own digital hit man (as expected). How amusing, you are actually trying to defend this company even though your efforts are futile. What's even more disturbing is the idea of you helping this company, till this day they continue to blame you in meetings or random conversations senselessly without considering the possibilities, if the network has an issue or the internet is down, The phones aren't working it's Miguel everyone says with a smirk and without hesitation. How pathetic that you have to lower yourself to try to get the respect of those who have stabbed you repeatedly in the back and walked away. You really are just a wetback in love with a tragic crack w***e; is this whose honor you're so desperately trying to defend? This company doesn't deserve your help and neither does she so stay away, play nice and let us take it from here.

Whores don't live in company of poor men, citizens never support a weak company and birds don't build nests on a tree that doesn't bear fruits

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The Real Problem with Employees

AUTHOR: NG - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 19, 2009

Oh give it a break. Marijuana used on personal time isn't the problem. The real problem is and always has been alcohol and upper management. Lets start with the worst..

Marie Defoor - "Major" Practicing Alcoholic - Problematic sexual misconduct.

Tim Judd - Practicing Alcoholic - Problematic consistent poor judgment.

Ralph Williams - Practicing Alcoholic - Problematic consistent poor judgment.

Greg Royse - Questionable Alcoholic- sexual misconduct - misstated prior accounting experience- Problematic incompetence.

Carolee Collins (Judd Crony) practicing alcoholic- 2007 arrest for alcohol - Claims to be a college professor but is really a high school social studies teacher. unqualified and ineffective for position held.

The problems with the Todd Johnson group are numerous in these reports.

and these are the people who hired and over paid many of their friends!!

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#38 UPDATE Employee

LMFAO at least we know how to spell correctly on this REALM w***e...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 19, 2009

Like We said before the truth hurts, why so angry about things that "aren't" true. You the amazon the garden gnome keep running your mouth's, Unlike you we have all employee records at our disposal, we have a purpose one beyond your measly understanding so do us all a favor with your teenage outbursts and Shut THE F*CK UP! No one really cares about the drugs at work this has been obvious just look at the employee handbook its a joke that endorses such behavior. This is bigger than that but I guess someone with your level of understanding cannot comprehend that. Crack whores are a dime a dozen and your no exception. Oh oh where did he go... WHERE THE HELL are you... we wanna play.

as promised:

Johnny H. (Customer Service) = Marijuana
Glen ?(Customer Service) = Marijuana
Shyla D.(Receptionist) = Marijuana, Vicodin, Extasy
Martin C.(Production) = Marijuana
Christoper M.(Production) = Marijuana, Extasy

Tomorrow is always another day!

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Bitches

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b***h...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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Bitches

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b***h...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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Bitches

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b***h...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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Bitches

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b***h...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b**ch...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b**ch...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b**ch...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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The Two of Ya's Are Some Bi**hes

AUTHOR: Hudsonhawk - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

You are a serious degenerate. You post up about all these people like you know them. What is really weak is that you do it behind a username. Gives you a lot of strength like superman except you are really just a weak individual. Its a beautiful thing the internet - how you can just talk about this and that and anyone for that matter. You must really love it here in la la land since you seem like all knowing but step into the relm of reality world and you will shrink like a b**ch...guaranteed! and ditto on that just in case you thought twice. OOOhhh ya do you not like me now? Are you going to try and figure out what drugs i've taken? You must have a wonderful life (or not) to be so concerned about other people and what they do. Just a suggestion - move on and do something with yourself. Just a thought - if you feel like responding go ahead but have a little integrity and do it on your own accord and so will I.

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#29 UPDATE Employee

HR is a entity that is completely worthless especially at elocal, right buffy?

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

Well it seems you have stated one of the problems and no it isn't illegal to drug test anyone based on such facts, it is just ignorance and favoritism at play, if this was Ashleigh for example, she would be written up and fired right now based on the ramblings of one paranoid w***e. It is possible to check their medical history's with background screenings like all normal companies. Then again that's the kind of losers they want, stupid ignorant children who are driven by the need to feel free or so goes the excuse, like all of us we hate our job and we need something to keep us willing to work in such an environment right?, If you want to say that all you need a is prescription then ask them for it what are you waiting for, an ok go?, I am sure they will have an issue date not too far from today if any. It is also illegal to pass and especially sell your prescriptions at work or to anyone hence the word "PRESCRIPTION" as they prescribed for your WIFE/Spouse or person intended. We continue tomorrow with a new batch of druggies and to those selling drugs at work. Be careful, you wouldn't want us to have the building raided on your account, would you? Nothing would please us more.

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What can HR do ?

AUTHOR: Nancy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

Even if the HR Director gets over her hangover I don't see where there is much anyone can do about the drug abuse. Apart from the "X" the rest of those drugs are legal with a prescription and its illegal to delve into Employees medical back grounds.

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#27 UPDATE Employee

Day 1 - Drugs At the work place,

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009

Here is the first 5 Druggies At eLocal, after all tomorrow is another day.

Amy Simpson - Marijuana and occasionally Extasy (Sales Floor Manager)
Ariel Sheffield- Marijuana, Vicodin, Oxycodon and Extasy (Sales/T.O.)
Shawna Porter- Marijuana, Vicodin. (Customer Service Manager)
Ronda Shopper - Marijuana, Vicodin, Darvocet, SOMA & Extasy (SEM Administrator)
Steven Moncrief - Marijuana, Vicodin, Oxycodon, Darvocet and SOMA (also part time distributer) (Sales/T.O)

You all are going to deny it But we assure you it only takes a simple test to prove.

To whom it may concern:

it's not our fault

it's not our fault that you post these things here
only to distort, scare, deceive and confuse those who read.

it's not our fault you choose hide behind anonymity (Basher a.k.a. Justin Cooke (eLocal Customer Relations Manager) & The Honest Avenger a.k.a. Joe Magnotti (eLocal Production Manager)) and have used this forum to point fingers

it's not our fault your employees are using drugs.

it's not our fault you decided to be a clown and write a ridiculous poem disguised as a threat.

it's not our fault you're so ignorant

it's not our fault you didn't want to listen.

it's not our fault you are so unsuccessful with your innovative products.

it's not our fault you're paranoid, maybe it's the drugs.

it's not our fault you're a homo.

it's not our fault you didn't care.

it's not our fault that you choose to ignore the situation.

it's not our fault that there is only rejection, blackmail and gross corporate misconduct.

it's not our fault your too slow.

it's not our fault you spend your days blaming others for your inadequacies.

it's not our fault your fat and have a small p***s.

it's not our fault you cannot look outside my friends

For someday, someone may come knocking at your door who is more than just a poet and isn't going to care about a silly post. Would you still be so poetic or float like a ghost?

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#26 UPDATE Employee

So we begin the process of revelations.

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, May 17, 2009

We know a few of you must be a little angry at the fact that we are doing this, but we are sure there are those who have been waiting for this day a very long time. We will begin releasing names tomorrow morning of employees, specifically those in administration and management who are using or distributing drugs at the workplace, not only will we be releasing names but also their office suppliers if any. Do not worry as we begin this process we will begin to see the real nature of how this company operates, if your name so happens to appear here don't worry you won't be the first and you probably won't be the last, keep in mind before they get to you they must begin at the front of the line!

Please note that all people discussed here are undeniably using drugs, and could be proven if the company where to drug test the mentioned. We guarantee a 97% chance of testing positive to either Marijuana, Ecstasy, Cocaine, Methamphetamines and of course the Prescription Drugs; Darvocet, Vicodin and Oxycodone (to name a few) ethical and professional staff would be able to recognize the drug related mood swings, the dilated eye's the flocculation in weight and eating habits and disorders. We dare wonder what will happen when something goes wrong with one of the employees and the media finds out that the company knew about the drug use publicly and yet they didn't do a single thing because the company management chose to be ignorant to the fact.

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So we begin the process of revelations.

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, May 17, 2009

We know a few of you must be a little angry at the fact that we are doing this, but I am sure there are those who have been waiting for this day a very long time. We will begin releasing names tomorrow morning of employees, specifically those in administration and management who are using or distributing drugs at the workplace, not only will we be releasing names but also their office suppliers if any. Do not worry as we begin this process we will begin to see the real nature of how this company operates, if your name so happens to appear here don't worry you won't be the first and you probably won't be the last, keep in mind before they get to you they must begin at the front of the line!

Please note that all people discussed here are undeniably using drugs, and could be proven if the company where to drug test the mentioned. We guarantee a 97% chance of testing positive to either Marijuana, Ecstasy, Cocaine, Methamphetamines and of course the Prescription Drugs; Darvocet, Vicodin and Oxycodone (to name a few) ethical and professional staff would be able to recognize the drug related mood swings, the dilated eye's the flocculation in weight and eating habits and disorders. We dare wonder what will happen when something goes wrong with one of the employees and the media finds out that the company knew about the drug use publicly and yet they didn't do a single thing because the company management chose to be ignorant to the fact.

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People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 15, 2009

Quite the show you put on today Ronda, you should be careful who you threat with lawsuits it's not wise to make threats without having the facts correct, you have no case, everything stated was the truth and it seems that truth is something you can't handle very well. What's more appalling and obvious is HR's ignorance in the fact drugs were mentioned yet no measures were considered or taken to clarify any of the drug use stated only a quick blame game and fake tears. To see such ignorant management, yet they choose to not act and ignore what is important. Then we will begin leaking names of those in Customer Service, Sales, Administrator, and Managers who are selling/using drugs, those who don't mind passing around their pain killers and some of their clients in the office. For those telling everyone not to go to this site, don't come to it at work. Just wait till you get home. eLocal chooses to sponsor such lifestyles if you are one of the special people with special rights where company rules are bent accordingly. If you're a junkie all you need to do is go apply, what could be better than getting high and resupplying your drugs at work!

Ronda, your computer showed you used a site that breaks the company network policies which bypassed the restrictions to see ripoffreport, before you go around opening your mouth and causing a scene in a different department make sure you're not breaking company policy when accessing unauthorized sites that alone is something reprehend able, but I guess your Ronda and that isn't important either.

Tupac Shakur Wonda why they call you B*tch

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People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 15, 2009

Quite the show you put on today Ronda, you should be careful who you threat with lawsuits it's not wise to make threats without having the facts correct, you have no case, everything stated was the truth and it seems that truth is something you can't handle very well. What's more appalling and obvious is HR's ignorance in the fact drugs were mentioned yet no measures were considered or taken to clarify any of the drug use stated only a quick blame game and fake tears. To see such ignorant management, yet they choose to not act and ignore what is important. Then we will begin leaking names of those in Customer Service, Sales, Administrator, and Managers who are selling/using drugs, those who don't mind passing around their pain killers and some of their clients in the office. For those telling everyone not to go to this site, don't come to it at work. Just wait till you get home. eLocal chooses to sponsor such lifestyles if you are one of the special people with special rights where company rules are bent accordingly. If you're a junkie all you need to do is go apply, what could be better than getting high and resupplying your drugs at work!

Ronda, your computer showed you used a site that breaks the company network policies which bypassed the restrictions to see ripoffreport, before you go around opening your mouth and causing a scene in a different department make sure you're not breaking company policy when accessing unauthorized sites that alone is something reprehend able, but I guess your Ronda and that isn't important either.

Tupac Shakur Wonda why they call you B*tch

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People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 15, 2009

Quite the show you put on today Ronda, you should be careful who you threat with lawsuits it's not wise to make threats without having the facts correct, you have no case, everything stated was the truth and it seems that truth is something you can't handle very well. What's more appalling and obvious is HR's ignorance in the fact drugs were mentioned yet no measures were considered or taken to clarify any of the drug use stated only a quick blame game and fake tears. To see such ignorant management, yet they choose to not act and ignore what is important. Then we will begin leaking names of those in Customer Service, Sales, Administrator, and Managers who are selling/using drugs, those who don't mind passing around their pain killers and some of their clients in the office. For those telling everyone not to go to this site, don't come to it at work. Just wait till you get home. eLocal chooses to sponsor such lifestyles if you are one of the special people with special rights where company rules are bent accordingly. If you're a junkie all you need to do is go apply, what could be better than getting high and resupplying your drugs at work!

Ronda, your computer showed you used a site that breaks the company network policies which bypassed the restrictions to see ripoffreport, before you go around opening your mouth and causing a scene in a different department make sure you're not breaking company policy when accessing unauthorized sites that alone is something reprehend able, but I guess your Ronda and that isn't important either.

Tupac Shakur Wonda why they call you B*tch

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People say that the truth hurts, then again you have to have a heart...

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 15, 2009

Quite the show you put on today Ronda, you should be careful who you threat with lawsuits it's not wise to make threats without having the facts correct, you have no case, everything stated was the truth and it seems that truth is something you can't handle very well. What's more appalling and obvious is HR's ignorance in the fact drugs were mentioned yet no measures were considered or taken to clarify any of the drug use stated only a quick blame game and fake tears. To see such ignorant management, yet they choose to not act and ignore what is important. Then we will begin leaking names of those in Customer Service, Sales, Administrator, and Managers who are selling/using drugs, those who don't mind passing around their pain killers and some of their clients in the office. For those telling everyone not to go to this site, don't come to it at work. Just wait till you get home. eLocal chooses to sponsor such lifestyles if you are one of the special people with special rights where company rules are bent accordingly. If you're a junkie all you need to do is go apply, what could be better than getting high and resupplying your drugs at work!

Ronda, your computer showed you used a site that breaks the company network policies which bypassed the restrictions to see ripoffreport, before you go around opening your mouth and causing a scene in a different department make sure you're not breaking company policy when accessing unauthorized sites that alone is something reprehend able, but I guess your Ronda and that isn't important either.

Tupac Shakur Wonda why they call you B*tch

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The truth... like you would know anything about it.

AUTHOR: Celestial Being - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 12, 2009

First of all you resigned because you had no choice it was that or be laid off. Just like the whole Josh Royse incident, that's right the real reason he was "let go" was because he wouldn't fire you, he liked you as a person and didn't believe you should be fired based on your beliefs and how much you liked to talk about it at work (If The Honest Avenger has any testicular fortitude as he pretends to, he will tell you), Unlike his father Josh is a real man with virtue and honor (eLocal didn't like you talking about religion at work just in case you don't get it.) So a strategic move was made by elocal staff and elocal "had" to lay off Josh, what a pity at right? no not really he was just part of the plan to make them look less ignorant at the fact that this company was getting sh1t thrown in their faces after all the companies garbage was being thrown out into the public so they made a pitiful attempt to show that they were not practicing nepotism and favoritism by releasing josh (who is Greg Royse [VP controller] son which may I add was made manager of a department within 4 weeks of his hiring date with no actual qualifications besides having level 75 characters on World of Warcraft, for the position he was moved into) Honesty is everything but company practice, go pay them a visit and you'll see a company of people acting like a bunch of fools where managers spend most of their days finding ways to get out of their messes by utilizing their subordinates as escape goats. Take a good look, look at the call center it don't take a genius to profile the type of people making the calls, all vocal con artists who will tell you anything to make a sell, all trained by the con master Todd Johnson. Do a background check on Todd Johnson (VP of Sales) and you'll get a good look at where his sinister teachings originate. Maybe you can attend the weekly Church of Todd which is a load of garbage coming from a man who knows nothing better than making a sale, how many salesman has anyone ever met that you could say "wow he really cares!" don't be so naive! You have witnessed a lot of bullsh!t and how much they seem to get away with it, until now Miguel why are you defending a company that screwed you over, for a girl? You above all should know better than this especially for someone like her.
Oh by the way Miguel, I hate to tell you this especially on such a public forum, but your little Ronda is a dirty w***e walking around the office like she's getting ready to sell her behind to the highest bidder, be careful this female is no good for you don't get caught in her web of lies look at her past and her relationships they last as long as the drugs/pills she pops every Friday/Saturday, this little girl trapped in a lady's body is a master of manipulation with her fake cries and laughs this girl is POISEN to the soul, look at the effect she has on her relationships if she even calls them that, look at all that you have done and given up for her and ask yourself what if ever has she has done for you, I am willing to bet nothing but excuses and fabricated tears right? A real woman would not be made up of so much deceit and lies and at least would care enough to spend the weekends with her man instead of being with the other trashy elocal sluts looking for sugar daddies in bars, SHE DOESN'T DESERVE SOMEONE LIKE YOU!! Ever wonder why Todd and the rest of the dirty birds protect her so much or why she was getting all kinds of special gifts/bonuses from Todd in the past? Take a guess, TRUST ME stay away from her she is only taking you down a path of self destruction. Just take a look back at your life before you came into contact with her, it won't take long to see your errors unless you're stupid which I know you're not!
Also thanks for that advice with the old site I'll make sure to make some secure improvements since I now know who The Honest Avenger is we are going to have a little fun Mr. I am tracking your IP LMFAO!

A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.

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The Real Story

AUTHOR: Gene - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 16, 2009

My name is Gene Cook. I worked for eLocal Listing for about 18 months. My last day was Friday April 10th, 2009. I resigned my position as Production Supervisor/Special Project Manager to pursue my vocation as a pastor.

Just for the record I want to say that eLocal is one of the best companies that I have ever worked for. I am in my mid 40's so I have had a few jobs in my life.

Elocal Listing consists of a group of highly motivated individuals that truly care about the service they provide for their customers. They work long and hard to do everything they can to achieve the best ranking results for their clients. The reality is that we are in an unstable economy and most of the defamation that has taken place on this site is is coming from people who were laid off due to necessary expense cuts. (just like millions of other Americans)

It pains me to read some of the immature garbage on this website. People grow up!

I wish Elocal all the success they deserve.

Gene Cook

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Vanessa becareful what you wish for!

AUTHOR: SomeThing - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 12, 2009

Vanessa, please take a step back and educate yourself a little bit about the board, its rules and the playing field you decided to get yourself into. Why on earth would you come to a board and post your real information about you, that is, if it is really you. How do we know its not Todd's brother? HAHAH... that's an inside joke only a few would understand. I give you some credit on trying to stand by your brother and defend his practices, but if you accept that what is wrong and ill willed, is that not accepting and tolerating that kind of behavior. Using the excuse that he is not perfect is appalling and out right idiotic. Richard Ramirez was not perfect, yet prosecuted and not even fast enough. The business practices that your brother employs are that of economically raping small businesses by providing false services. To say that he cannot account for what his sales people do is another remark illustrating how naive you really are. Since he is responsible fore sales, he is accountable for what his sales people do and say PERIOD. He needs to make the effort and at least once a month tell all the new hires and vets that they cannot promise the such and such. Have the employees sign statements that they understand and that breaching that agreement is punishable up to and including termination. But you know thats not going to happen. If that employees smokes dope and our puts out... they will stay forever. To phrase things in a language he Todd may understand.... You go out and find a female prostitute lets say masseuse to keep it more PC, pay her top dollar for her services and then find out it was a transvestite. Funny right.... not for the consumer. Todd ...it might be better you tell your sister to stay on the sidelines, because if she really wants things out in the open, you might have a lot of explaining to do, right? Just as eLocal hides behind a vale of some sort of legitimate corporation, we who have been prosecuted by the company must do the same, to protect ourselves. To call people out when they have been prosecuted, abused and exploited without any defense is absurd. BTW why did you sign with Vanessa Johnson, LOL look who's hiding.

Also please do not state that there is nothing ever positive posted here. That is not true. Jackie is a freak Momma :) Right T?

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My husband was a e local reseller

AUTHOR: Mrs. Vanessa Johnson - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Hi,
My husband Jeremy did for a while operate as a reseller for E Local. I understand how things can get misconstrued, and peoples perceptions of what is going on become a absolute truth to them.
I would often frequent my husbands office. He always tried to get the reps to be honest and not slam business. I was there with him the first day he opened and the last day he was in business. It is almost impossible to monitor a room full of of people 100% of the time. I completely agree that sometimes reps definately lie. That is an absolute truth for any tele sales company. However, to completely blame Jeremy for other peoples choices is absurd. Whats even more apalling is to state facts about someone that truely you know nothing about.
I am not opposed to holding someone accountable, I completely agree when someone is wrong that they need to take responsibility.
My husband Jeremy is a good man. HE is not perfect and by no means a saint. However to label him a good BSer...is offensive. To slander someone that you do not know is naive. Almost all of you on rip off report know nothing about my husband...and most of you never even worked for him. How many of you ever went to lunch with him?? Anything...you are basing your "facts" on broken down information that you get pieces here and there of...Jeremy is not a part of E Local.
I am not a part of any inside circle of e local, however I know that there are people that have benefited from e local. Both consumers and employees.


I hear a lot of stuff about my brother Todd Johnson. You either love him or you hate him...I know when you come into contact with a lot of people there tends to be a lot of opportunity,especially in forums like this to character assassinate people. Todd has never proclaimed to be a perfect person. However, I know for a fact, that my brother would never maliciously hurt someone. I know a lot of people, and Todd is an absolute amazing man. Perfect NO...but he is not what you guys paint him to be like...I worked for him over 6 years ago...and he has transformed into something that is awesome. No matter what, he has always stood by our side and helps us. If he has 2 bucks, and we need money, he will give us his last 2 bucks. Im sorry that most of you feel you have not ever seen this side of him.

I understand being an employee and looking around at all the things that are wrong with someone/something. And I believe everyone is entitled to their very own opinion, however, I really just felt like adding something positive. There is nothing positive ever really written on this...and to never mention anything good about someone I feel is not fair.
If someone is so bad, they would be basically evil, and that is so absolutely not even the case.

I am blessed to be a part of the Johnson family. We are good people.
But by no means perfect.

Maybe we can play a game...and since you all seem to be so perfect and blameless...lets like get real, and reveal true names and identities, and then play the character assassination game...
Everyone in this forum hides behind a fake name or screen name...its just so stupid...if you have something to say, then say it, but dont be a coward and hide your true identity. Whats even worse than a liar, is a coward.

PROUD,
Vanessa Johnson

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WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 06, 2009

Everyone that is working at or with Elocal is a crook, liar and con-artist. Dont blame us for reporting it...blame God for making you that way. Jbag is right in everything he has said. The mighty hand of Justice will come down...be prepared!!!!

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#15 UPDATE Employee

shutup jeff!

AUTHOR: Basher - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 05, 2009

before you start badmouthing a company, you need to make sure you're talking about the right department!

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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

All of this is true!!!

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, February 02, 2009

I worked there for 2 months before I left...they wanted the salespeople to blatanly lie to people just so they gave a Credit card #. They told them to make up whatever lies they wanted just to make a sale. They would threaten and fire salespeople that refused to lie....Horrible company. Someone must stop them from hurting people. They have stolen millions of dollars from poor people.

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#13 UPDATE Employee

If you honestly believe that.....

AUTHOR: Miguelv - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 21, 2009

you'll believe anything. Just because someone told you it was not them, now all of a sudden they are telling the truth, are you that stupid CL? On average, an individual lies three times per conversation per day. Check up the facts, and please use that little brain of yours to validate your decisions prior to making any judgments. It kind of sounds like your product planning, here today gone tomorrow. Well have fun on trying to call people out, it will never work, you allege I look like an a*s, I am the one not walking around without a bra for all to see those boulders drag across the carpet, for god sakes have some decency. You claim to be honest, but have lied and deceived customers and employees long enough and now it will be judgment day for you. Good luck.

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#12 UPDATE Employee

Thanks Jared...

AUTHOR: Honest Avenger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 09, 2009

Jared I appreciate you standing up and letting us know these horrible lies are not coming from you. It's good to see the truth come out.

As for you "Miguel V", you still have yet to prove your identity. But I know your not Miguel. Why? Because he showed up, looked me in the eye and told me it wasn't him. I believe him. Feel free to come by and talk to me anytime. Just ask for the Honest Avenger. You won't, you're not man enough.

So we are really starting to slim down the possible candidate of people you could be. Be careful, I am getting closer to the truth.

The Honest Avenger

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I am the real J. B.

AUTHOR: The Real J Baggin - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 05, 2009

First let me start by saying how appauled I am that someone would soil my name with elocal like this by possing as me. Secondly, elocal afforded me several oppertunities including the oppertunity to further my career as a professional. To set the record straight (and so the company knows its me) I took a voluntary lay-off as my possition had been discontinued and I was offered the chance to stay with the company which I chose not to do. Considering I am still a stock holder it would not be in my best interest to soil elocals name as I have a personal financial interest in the company. I was also was the best recruiter elocal has seen (besides Todd Johnson of course) to date and my numbers in employee retention percentiles tell this tale quite clearly. I started with the company as a sales rep. moving my way up to management and then into 2nd level management answering only to the Director of H.R. (Human Resources) and her superiors.

Allot of elocal's current and ex-employee's may hold personal grudges against me as I did enforce company policies, rules, and ethics of conduct for the Human Resources department. This did include issuing verbal warnings, offense write-ups, suspentions, lay-offs, and teminations.

I was not handed this possition. As a Sales Manager I was offered the possition of "Recruiter" which I was not qualified for but accepted. Reckognizing this I immediately began courses for Recruiting and Job Interview Practices (NOTE: elocal offered to pay for these classes but I refused the help) which I successfully completed. After months of operating as the "Recruiter" I was asked by the H.R. Director if I would like to move to human resources as the "H.R. Corporate Recruiter" taking on more responsibilities and challenges which I gladly accepted. I then started classes to obtain my Human Resources Management Certification which was acheived Sept. 8th 2008.

I am not hear to confirm nor deny any allegations against elocal, only to clear my name from this rancid mess of fakes and frauds claiming to be me.
Elocal was a roller coaster ride of good and bad as all things in life are. I harbor no ill-will or malice for elocal listing and wish them all the best in their companies continued success.

Thank You,
Jared M. Baggin

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#10 UPDATE Employee

Again all you have to do is stand up...

AUTHOR: Honest Avenger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 01, 2009

All you have to do is stand up and be counted. You say you have valid points. I say they are all lies. You use this forum to attack women of eLocal like a man without a backbone. I say that has no business here, as it has nothing to do with our products or services.

So stand up and be counted. Or are you afraid?

Are you even an ex-employee? How do we know? A customer? An investor? Anyone could be behind your handle.

If you are afraid to prove yourself here, meet with me, and your issues will be addressed.

Otherwise all your posts are simply lies from an anonymous poster. And no one will pay any attention.

The Honest Avenger

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

WebPros.net has never been a part of Elocal!

AUTHOR: WebPros - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Yes, it is true that WebPros.net did actually do SEO work (subcontracted) for Zone Communications in the past and even was going to do the SEO work for them when they became Elocal. By then Steve Espinosa figured he knew enough about SEO in a few months (I had spent 12 years learning it myself) that they decided to try (unsuccessfully I might add) to take my methods and do it on thier own. Nothing wrong with that. I've always believed it was healthy competition.

I might point out however that while I was working for them, EVERY site that I optimized for them (about 150) has proven reports and I still keep the stats to this day.

As for having a P.O Box?? This is not hiding. For the first 11 years I was a single full time father raising my daughter and working from home. I have to ask, would YOU put your home business address on your website? So I've always had a UPS Center mailbox instead.

Final response is to the "stealing" of Elocal clients. This guy has apparently been working for them to believe this one. Being a small industry, in the last year as I finally expanded and brought on new sales teams, turns out a couple of them had been past Elocal employees and DID call old Elocal clients to win them over. My only problem was reports of these sales representatives referring them to this site to show them what people were saying about Elocal. As soon as this was discovered to be happening these sales members were no longer allowed to sell on the behalf of WebPros. But you know, to call an existing customer of another company and offering them a better service at a better price is NOT "stealing", it is simply good business.

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#8 UPDATE Employee

Dont make me laugh!

AUTHOR: Miguelv - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Ok Honest Avenger, lets start poking holes into your arguments.

First off, it is not only a place for customer complaints, but also employee complaints and inside information on any company. So make sure you understand that before sounding like an oaf. Second why should anyone have to prove their identity when you yourself claim to be 1) Honest and 2) an Avenger. You obviously are not honest because you hide behind a name and speak on behalf of the company, as if you were a person in power there able to take care of issues. Third, you claim that these so called attacks are getting old, when on the contrary they are not attacks but TRUTHS and continue because the company still practices the exact same policies that it accepts (let me name a few: sexual harassment, harassment, drug abuse, discrimination, and fraud). Fourth, why would you want to meet? Is for a sexual rendezvous, if so I am so not interested in any of you dinosaurs.

Could you imagine, that if these issues were resolved a long time ago, and I mean a LONG TIME ago, the company may actually be profitable. The employees would look up to senior management as corporate mentors and champions. This is how it ought to be, not what you want it to be.

"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves." - Confucius

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Diversions, diversions....

AUTHOR: Honest Avenger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Again, you have failed to prove you identity and continue the unfounded personal attacks even though this forum is meant for consumer complaints and resolutions. Ripoff report is a valuable tool when used is this manner, however you are now simply making it a soapbox for your libelous claims.

Once you prove your identity all product and company related issues will be addressed.

However, your continued attacks on Carolee and friends is getting old. Please stop. Bashing the women of eLocal does nothing to address precieved product or service concerns. I encourage you to have some honor, stand up and state who you are publicly. Although this is not Carolee, I will be glad to prove my identity as well and even meet with you.

Again, please stop the public attacks on the women of eLocal. It is hurtful and not getting us anywhere.

The Honest Avenger

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You're kidding right?

AUTHOR: Miguelv - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 30, 2008

At first I could not believe you were this naive. Now after reading this post Carolee, I can really see how you try to coy and deceive people to come out (just as you deceive your customers). Let me ask you this, do you seriously think that these issues will be resolved? Are you really going to have a sit down and address all your customers and HR issues? Seriously? Are you doing drugs now as the rest of your company? Carolee you know for a fact that you and everyone else still working there with your high salaries are just juicing every single bit of cash left in the company. Let me guess, everyone else with stock will get burned because the company will not get acquired but be merged, therefore making these options useless, kind of like the Zonecom scam, right?

Oh and you speak about Rhonda about how she is moving up in the company, well if Allison can do it anyone can right? You just need the eLocal knee pads and you can work it all the way to the top. Too bad she worked it all the way at eLocal and not a real company like Google or Yahoo, she might have actually made it somewhere. Does she really take that kind of pride working there? I guess she fits in your Friends group right? Like GR calling her in the middle of the night I guess is just how friends are. Now that you bring it up, only certain management is ever invited in the after work events right? Why is SE the only Director on the Web Site and not the others?

I will tell you what, you want to come clean and fight out in the open then I accept your challenge. I will post all the information of every person on the management team that has appeared in public domain (to keep it legal) and then you can all come here and try and defend everything? Do you want to start? I know of several legal cases going on currently that validate everything being said here about your company. Let me know here and we can start 2009 with a bash.

Oh and please do not EVER threaten me with a little poem telling me that people will come to my door. You think its cute, but if you don't want me going to your new house then lets just keep it to the cyber communityKK Thanks.

BTW do you guys finally clean that filthy place? Haven't been by in a while.

Cheers,

Guess Who

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Ah, now we are getting somewhere...

AUTHOR: Honest Avenger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 27, 2008

Jared and Miguel,

This forum first started off as a place for customers to complain about our service. We have no problem with that. However, you have turned it into a public smear campaign. Dragging untrue claims out in the open for all to read. This is simply not right. It must be stopped.

So, here is what we propose. Prove your identity and your questions will be answered. You agree to stop the personal mud slinging, although you are free to challenge the quality of any of our products or introduce any customers with specific issues. You have my word we will address them one by one.

You can prove your identity only in one way -- post a URL to a picture of yourself holding a sign saying "Honest Avenger". You take it down as soon as I have seen it and posted a reply. If you truly are Jared and Miguel, this is something you can easily do today. My concern is you could be someone else, posing as Miguel or Jared. I do not wish to tarnish the name of more innocent people.

Let's stop the rumor mill and get to the root cause of your issues. Help me, help you.

The Honest Aveneger

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Smoke and Mirrors

AUTHOR: Jbag - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 26, 2008

Interesting how the Elocaql always comes back with "you choose hide behind anonymity" as stated by "Honest Avenger" and "Basher." Do you not use your real names since Carolee Collins said not to respond to these postings or Todd said they help the rankings go up the more they are searched and read? Why do you hide behind your names? Miguel and I use our names!

We both express positive things, and qualities about elocal, and of course a lot of negatives that impact the public/customers as well as the past and some existing employees.

You really did a nice job responding "Honesst Avenger" with your "original" poem - Funny how nothing is your FAULT yet you used that word 15 times.

Since you like to respond to these postings Carolee (Carol Lee if you prefer) then your morals show true that you hang with Allison even after she fooled around with your husband when you were out of town. Let me clarify - both Allison and her friend Donna. But you must be OK with that since you all "Get together" and work hard together. Keep banging away! Maybe Allison should not talk so much, or be more selective on who she talks too.

Yes we can talk dirt -every company has some. You all choose to ignore the facts of what is being challenged and brought to the surface here. Customers are being taken advantage of left and right. Yes some may feel they are getting results, but majority do not, or soon realize they aren't.

The basics are for anyone to do true due diligence and research back to the original business SCAM that Blane Mansfield from the dead spoke about of Todd and Mike building a website company and investors got burned. Elocal Listing was formed with great expectations that even were used to get investors (just like Bernard Madoff), milk them for what they could, have Ralph Williams pump the investors up as well as the employees, and then reality sunk in. The company over promised and under delivered, the economy messed up their time line, and the ship keeps sailing, but can't get on course.

Again, we can go on and on.

Hope your 2009 is better and you find someone to buy you.

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it's not our fault

AUTHOR: Honest Avenger - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 25, 2008

it's not our fault

it's not our fault that you post these untrue things here
only to hurt, deceive and confuse those who read

it's not our fault you choose hide behind anonymity
and have used this forum to point fingers

it's not our fault you stole and lied, after all
you're a man of little integrity and that's truly why you were dismissed

it's not our fault you decided to turn your lies on us personally
spitefully hurting those who only work for a company you once loved

it's not our fault you're so jealous
posting these things during a time of giving and holiday cheer

it's not our fault you didn't want our friendship
we are a company full of friends, it's true

it's not our fault you are so unsuccessful
maybe if you focused on your career things would be different

it's not our fault you're paranoid, a man who believes
in crazy conspiracy theories like 9/11, UFOs and the Illuminati, maybe it's the drugs

it's not our fault your homophobic rants
are posted here for everyone to see

it's not our fault you didn't get to know us better
and find out they are untrue

it's not our fault that we are not perfect
that we make mistakes, that we are only human

it's not our fault that when we try to make amends
there is only rejection, blackmail and talk of revenge

it's not our fault you call yourself a hacker
when you are merely just a hack

it's not our fault you spend your days plotting against us
even though we have overcome all your futile attempts to bring us down

it's not our fault your girlfriend left you and is moving up in the company
maybe if you were just a little bit more of a man she would still be with you

it's not our fault you cannot look inside my friend, deep down inside
For someday, someone may come knocking at your door
who is more than just a poet and may want more than just an apologetic post

it's not our fault, it's yours

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Wait a MINUTE!

AUTHOR: Miguelv - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 23, 2008

Jared does have several valid arguments, and they are not lies. What you are trying to do is to attack his integrity by alleging he is a drug addict of sorts. Now that being said, are not 90%+ of employees working for eLocal or any of its DBAs all from Todd Johnsons AA group? Are they not the same guinea pigs that were used to test a NON-FDA approved drug treatment pill. Regardless of Jared's actions in the past or present, eLocal condones and or nourishes this type of environment. If you are not a drug addict or a sex participant, they want nothing to do with you and you will end up fired. Because of this sexually charged atmosphere there is really no way to get work done without always feeling the pressure of having to participate in the drug parties and or having to put out for some old POS.

There are a few things to understand here, eLocal should have sold long ago, but greed got in the way. There is no way for them to make it out of this mess they have gotten themselves into. Also they made their choices about who to keep at the company, because despite the complaints of sexual harassment and the sex groups going on, these people are still there and everyone who complained is fired. Marie congrats on marriage number two BTW, I know Scott approves of your life style. If Carolee allows you to have your ceremony at her place of residence, she is no better then you and should be treated as such. A filthy w***e! What does Carolee do when she wanders off with Allison? Anyone know? Phil please make sure that you tighten her leash, I would not advise to have Carolee seen parading around Temecula with Super w***e. Amazing how things like this can have gone on for over two years, but hey if you have a job doing nothing, and you get to screw the boss(es) all the time. I guess it works for some people.

Their service that they sell is something anyone can do. Various companies far larger than eLocal have started and sold already. They are just trying to get as much out of the company as they can. They have ZERO expertise on what they would like to consider their product. However they do have talent, don't get me wrong. Some of the talent just needs to have some corporate mentoring in order to bring out some of these hidden skills.

That brings me to the root cause of the eLocal disease. If at the top, you discuss the breast of your subordinates at lets say a Christmas party, and or ever other word is an expletive then there in lies the problem. Tim condones this type of behavior, but it could be from his Napoleon Complex (google it, you'll laugh). So if the CEO sponsors and condones this type of behavior it is no wonder why the trash is still running the show. eLocal had so much potential, but when you run a company you need to treat it as such and not a play ground for your sexual escapades.

So people be warned, no one is getting funding these days, and eLocal does not have unlimited resources. Every suing eLocal good luck and I hope you win, if you need anything please let me know, I would be more than happy to assist in anyway I can.

P.S.

Happy Holidays and I wish you all the best of luck.

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Oh Jared, Jared, Jared

AUTHOR: Basher - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 19, 2008

Such hostility since you used to WORK for this company..... until you GOT FIRED for not doing a decent job hiring people. For those reading this, Jared Baggins, (JBag) used to be the Corporate Recruiter for eLocal Listing. He actually hired me.

On a second note, Why would you even mention eLocal Hosting. You were still here when they switched to Web Development, and not the listing "product". Last I checked, a website WAS a product... You're just as bad as Miguel. eLocal was a step in your life. Show your age and maturity by moving on gracefully... Oh wait.... no maturity...

And for the record, you didn't get screwed... Downsizing happens to every company. YOu were offerend a different position and then bitched about having to go through training again and left. so eLocal didn't screw you, YOU SCREWED yourself by showing up to work baked all the time, the constant rambling to yourself, the sweat beads rolling off your face... do your employers know about your habits???

Move on gracefully...

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