• Report: #872135
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  • Submitted: Sun, April 22, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, September 03, 2012

  • Reported By: PissedOff — Internet United States of America
Internet United States of America

FetLife FetLife Lets Vigilante Groups Operate On It's Site Internet, Internet

*Consumer Comment: Shield of Deceit

*Consumer Comment: Fetlife and Sock Puppets Accounts

*General Comment: This Complaint is Spot On

*General Comment: I disagree with the Complaint Also

*Consumer Comment: Disagree with Complaint

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FetLife is an adult online website for kinksters and in their community guide lines they state "Our number one priority is to create a fun and safe place for kinksters, like you and I, to call home here on the interwebs." My question to FetLife is how would you like it if you were being spied upon without your knowledge in your own home by certain groups or individuals. That is exactly what FetLife is doing in their so called safe home for kinksters by letting certain groups operate within their website that spy on its members without their knowledge. The groups that I am referring to are The REAPS Projet, FAKE Profiles on FetLife, The Fakes of Fetlife, Fakes-Frauds-Flamers, and Copyright Thieves!. These groups like to put links to other members profiles on the website within their groups for other members within the groups to attack them. Many times members are being accused without any proof what so ever except for the fact that they may have a large number of images in their gallery or because a member has a personal vendetta against another member and wants to cause problems.  The members being linked to on many occasions do not even know they have been mentioned in a public forum unless one of their friends tells them and if they go and confront the individuals in that group they are set upon like a pack of dogs. One group in particular, The REAPS Projet, is now going outside of FetLife to other websites to do their internet policing and using FetLife as their base.

Before I go any further I would like to put the first two prohibited conduct of a member from FetLife's own Terms Of Use.
You agree that, while using BitLove Inc.s Products and Services,  you will not:

Personally attack, make fun of, troll, flame, bully, stalk or otherwise harass another member.
Make criminal accusations against another member in a public forum.

These groups are doing exactly what FetLife has stated not to do. FetLife has a group of individuals called CareTakers that are suppose to handle complaints. If someone is a fake or violated FetLifes rule on Copyright then the member should be reported to the CareTakers and let them investigate it and take care of it. There is no need to have groups that employ Stasi like tactics operate within its website but FetLife's staff seems to look away and let these groups do it. Now if a member that was not part of one of the above mentioned groups did what they do they would either get an official FetLife warning or have their account banned. I am wondering what these groups will start pointing their accusatory fingers at next. Will it be a members profile pic? Will it be a member's age? Will it be what they write in their profile? Will it be where a member is from? Will it be the friends they have? Will it be their race or religion? Will it be their sexual preference? Get rid of these groups FetLife before they ruin the reputation of your website and your membership dwindles.

I would like to close with these little words of caution. Current members you need to be aware that you are being watched by these Big Brother groups. Individuals that plan on joining FetLife you also need to be made aware that you will be watched as well so join at your own risk. Now for me I have had it with FetLife looking the other way concerning these types of secret police groups. My account is now sitting in their delete queue.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/22/2012 01:20 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/fetlife/internet/fetlife-fetlife-lets-vigilante-groups-operate-on-its-site-internet-internet-872135. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Shield of Deceit

AUTHOR: TAI - (Virgin Islands (US))

This individual represents one of the worst case scenarios of an online site where privacy is of primary concern. He is launching ad hominem attacks at those who have realized his own untrustworthy behavior and shielding himself by use of baseless accusations. He has accused a fellow colleague who discovered his unethical behavior of the same things in order to deflect attention.

Where he has been interdicted, he simply goes to a fresh site where he can continue with his invective. This is distruptive to many and is a growing problem online where such shenanigans can be pursued with impunity. Sowing distrust with baseless rumors and accusations is no laughing matter. I have seen the flame wars he has started when someone politely warns him he is using copyrighted material and claiming it as his own.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Fetlife and Sock Puppets Accounts

AUTHOR: TruthSeeker - (United States of America)

The person that wrote the original complaint about vigilante groups on Fetlife is a person that had a Fake account deleted. He was using a sock puppet account as a profile. There are some valid reasons for having a sock puppet account on Fetlife and they are allowed by the company. Their are several reasons that Fetlife does not allow them. Fraudulent  reasons and using them to go around causing disputes, flaming , trolling and harassing other members. In most cases they downloaded Copyrighted photos, sometimes of other Fetlife members professional photog group and claimed them to be "Fair Use". Fetlife obviously ruled that to be against the Terms of Use, so deleted the accounts.

The group that is doing the complaining is called Anti-Reaps. They have become quite the vigilantes themselves. They have posted all the members of the group Fake Profiles in a thread discussion and also on a Sock puppet accounts main profile. They also flame, harass and call anyone a fake that has a differing point of view. They really have no right to complain about Fetlife Terms of Service violations, when they themselves seem to have no regard for the rules. They are really nothing more than hypocrites that are angry at Fetlife for deleting the sock puppet account they were using. Instead of obeying the rules and changing the way they act, they create more sock puppet accounts to hide their real identity to continue to create havoc for Fetlife and other members.

If they do not like the Fetlife rules they should just delete their profile and move to Facebook, instead they are complaining and trying to change the rules. Fetlife is a good website, but with any large group you have some people that simply cannot get along and follow the rules. Bitter and unhappy in their real life they have no way to reconcile the feelings they have.
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#3 General Comment

This Complaint is Spot On

AUTHOR: Ren - (United States of America)

The two "rebuttals" are obviously filed by two of the individuals that the original complaint is aimed at. 
The original complaint is 100% accurate.
That there might be individuals who are making claims in their FetLife profile that might be false is NOT necessarily "Criminal" behavior as one of the rebuttals suggests. Also, there is a mechanism to REPORT any wrongdoing or violations of the "Terms of Use" to the caretakers, so the existence of these vigilante groups is unnecessary - making the other rebuttal about this complaint FALSE on its face. In other words, both rebuttals are made by dishonest liars.
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#4 General Comment

I disagree with the Complaint Also

AUTHOR: Tired Of Fakes - (USA)

     The person making this complaint is using the exact writing style and words of another person on Fetlife that is making a complete fool out of himself. I am a fetlife user and was told about this complaint, so I thought I'd give my thoughts on this as well.

     I noticed he mentioned he was deleting his account. LIE!!!  He's still there acting like a 2 year old stomping his feet because he's not getting his way. Apparently this guy had a fake profile and he got busted. There are lots of old gay men on the site that make up phoney profiles using stolen photos of beautiful women. They use these profiles to lure men into their traps. There are also multitudes of other reasons these people make up fake profiles, but bottom line is, it's getting harder for them to do so because image reverse search tools are in place which make it easier to find out if photos are stolen or not.

     From what I've noticed, this guy is on a campaign about reverse image search tools being used. Everyone is so sick of him and wishes he would just leave the site. It seems he has about 5 friends that are backing him up in his quest. They all come across as very irrational, one especially. Just seeing how they act is proof enough that they aren't the types of friends anyone in their right minds would want to have.

I'm sure this guy is upset because he can no longer spend all his free time making up profiles to interact with people deceivingly. If you don't like the way things are, then leave the site !!
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#5 Consumer Comment

Disagree with Complaint

AUTHOR: FetLife is Great - (United States of America)

     I am a FetLife user and disagree with the complainer above. There are many profiles that exist on Fet by users who are impersonating innocent people by stealing their photos from various websites, including Facebook. This is a CRIME and the lives of innocent people can easily be destroyed by the games these sick people are playing. They set up profiles on the site that look legitimate with the stolen photos. No one really knows the motives behind these sick individuals, but bottom line is, what they are doing is wrong. Now that these sick people are being exposed, there are a few that are very upset about it and very passionate about stopping those who are trying to put an end to the fakes.  Everyone who is familiar with what is going on automatically suspects these individuals are probably some of the ones who have been exposed for having been busted with a fake profile. A fake profile on Fetlife is one that is one that is created by an individual who exhibits stolen photos of another person and they are portraying that person on the website. The person who is complaining above is probably upset because he is finding it harder to deceive people on the website now that enforcement tactics are in place.
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