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I received a call from First Credit of America (FCOA) today stating like many others on here that I owed a $59.95 cancellation fee to Clear Credit. From the beginning the lady was rude. Different from many others I was a customer of Clear Credit and they did provide some service although not as good as they said they were. That was 3 years ago. I paid the service in full at the time and they even over billed me and refunded me back my money without any issues. I have tried to contact them over this but their website no longer has a phone number which makes me wonder and the listing in the directory is no good.
I told the lady at FCOA that I needed proof of this bill. She told me their policy was for me to pay first and then send the proof of the bill. I told her under the Fair Credit Act that they are required to provide me with written proof of this bill and that until I am notified in writing of this bill I am not under any obligation to pay it; which is the law. I told her if she would kindly send me a copy of the bill and the supporting document that show I owe this, I would gladly pay it. She told me that is not how they operate and that if I did not pay it, they would report me to the credit bureaus. I told her that if she felt like doing to do so and I would protest it to the credit bureaus and then she would have to provide the same information to them and still have to provide it too me. It was obvious that she did not know the law and was just trying to threaten/scare me into paying.
She had my address and said she would send me the information. Based on what I have seen on here, I will probably never see it. But I will be keeping an eye on my bureaus.
If you get this call, demand that they provide you with WRITTEN PROOF that is the law and you do not have to pay a dime even if you owe the money until they provide you with this proof. If they just send you a bill, you then have 30 days from the day you receive the letter to request written documentation of the bill. Just because they send you a bill does not mean you owe it.
The other issue for me is that I have my agreement and terms with Clear Credit. Nothing in it says there is a cancellation charge. So have them provide how the terms of the cancellation charge works. They will not be able to prove it.
Alan
Tomball, Texas
U.S.A.
I told the lady at FCOA that I needed proof of this bill. She told me their policy was for me to pay first and then send the proof of the bill. I told her under the Fair Credit Act that they are required to provide me with written proof of this bill and that until I am notified in writing of this bill I am not under any obligation to pay it; which is the law. I told her if she would kindly send me a copy of the bill and the supporting document that show I owe this, I would gladly pay it. She told me that is not how they operate and that if I did not pay it, they would report me to the credit bureaus. I told her that if she felt like doing to do so and I would protest it to the credit bureaus and then she would have to provide the same information to them and still have to provide it too me. It was obvious that she did not know the law and was just trying to threaten/scare me into paying.
She had my address and said she would send me the information. Based on what I have seen on here, I will probably never see it. But I will be keeping an eye on my bureaus.
If you get this call, demand that they provide you with WRITTEN PROOF that is the law and you do not have to pay a dime even if you owe the money until they provide you with this proof. If they just send you a bill, you then have 30 days from the day you receive the letter to request written documentation of the bill. Just because they send you a bill does not mean you owe it.
The other issue for me is that I have my agreement and terms with Clear Credit. Nothing in it says there is a cancellation charge. So have them provide how the terms of the cancellation charge works. They will not be able to prove it.
Alan
Tomball, Texas
U.S.A.
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AUTHOR: Alan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 12, 2005
I am still getting calls from these guys and it looks like this is a major deal. I have reported them to the BBB of Chicago, the AG of Texas and Illinois, FTC IFCC. I have not heard back from anyone.
One thing I do know. Since these guys are a scam, the best thing to happen would be for them to report these debts to the bureau. Then if you protested them, the bureaus have to seek verification. If it is not provided then it will be taken off and can not be put back on.
Also I purposely talk to FCOA every time they call now. Sometimes it is just a computer giving me a number and other times it is a person. I have asked for verification and they say that they would send it, which I have not received. I also gave them my fax number and they have not faxed me anything either.
One thing to do is to send them a Verification letter. The letter must be sent Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. By doing this, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, they must provide you with verification and they can not continue to collect the debt until they do provide verification and can only contact you to tell you what they are going to do with your file. If they continue to contact you, they are subject to a civil fine of up to $1,000 per attempt to contact you. You could have some fun with this and sue them.
It is time to fight fire with fire. Here is a sample letter and one similar to what I have sent them. I am not an attorney, but this is not difficult. Everybody should send one of these and if they continue to call us, then we all can band together and go after them.
I can be contacted at spearheadsolutions@yahoo.com.
CERTIFIED MAIL WITH RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Ms. Bullard
First Credit of America
300 North Elizabeth
Suite 220B
Chicago, Illinois 60607
Dear Ms. Bullard,
I am writing in reference to your collection attempt of a $59.95 cancellation charge from
Clear Credit. Under THE FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT (FDCPA) I am disputing this charge and demanding under the said Act that verification be provided. I am requesting full documentation of this debt. This should include but is not limited to: name, address and phone number of original creditor, the amount of the debt, as well as all agreements or terms of any agreements signed or agreed too by me. Failure to provide ALL the items listed above will be considered a failure by First Credit of America to provide sufficient and legal verification of this debt.
Under FDCPA you are immediately ordered to cease and desist from any further collection activities until this verification is provided. If further attempts to collect this dept are made after receipt of this letter; I will pursue any and all legal remedy available to me.
PLEASE GIVE THIS THE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION IT IS DUE.
Since I was unable to obtain an account number, you did have my current address as well as phone number. These are listed below for your reference so that you may be able to identify my account
Address and Phone Number Phone: 281-516-9133
Sincerely,
Your Name
One thing I do know. Since these guys are a scam, the best thing to happen would be for them to report these debts to the bureau. Then if you protested them, the bureaus have to seek verification. If it is not provided then it will be taken off and can not be put back on.
Also I purposely talk to FCOA every time they call now. Sometimes it is just a computer giving me a number and other times it is a person. I have asked for verification and they say that they would send it, which I have not received. I also gave them my fax number and they have not faxed me anything either.
One thing to do is to send them a Verification letter. The letter must be sent Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. By doing this, under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, they must provide you with verification and they can not continue to collect the debt until they do provide verification and can only contact you to tell you what they are going to do with your file. If they continue to contact you, they are subject to a civil fine of up to $1,000 per attempt to contact you. You could have some fun with this and sue them.
It is time to fight fire with fire. Here is a sample letter and one similar to what I have sent them. I am not an attorney, but this is not difficult. Everybody should send one of these and if they continue to call us, then we all can band together and go after them.
I can be contacted at spearheadsolutions@yahoo.com.
CERTIFIED MAIL WITH RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Ms. Bullard
First Credit of America
300 North Elizabeth
Suite 220B
Chicago, Illinois 60607
Dear Ms. Bullard,
I am writing in reference to your collection attempt of a $59.95 cancellation charge from
Clear Credit. Under THE FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT (FDCPA) I am disputing this charge and demanding under the said Act that verification be provided. I am requesting full documentation of this debt. This should include but is not limited to: name, address and phone number of original creditor, the amount of the debt, as well as all agreements or terms of any agreements signed or agreed too by me. Failure to provide ALL the items listed above will be considered a failure by First Credit of America to provide sufficient and legal verification of this debt.
Under FDCPA you are immediately ordered to cease and desist from any further collection activities until this verification is provided. If further attempts to collect this dept are made after receipt of this letter; I will pursue any and all legal remedy available to me.
PLEASE GIVE THIS THE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION IT IS DUE.
Since I was unable to obtain an account number, you did have my current address as well as phone number. These are listed below for your reference so that you may be able to identify my account
Address and Phone Number Phone: 281-516-9133
Sincerely,
Your Name
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