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Complaint Review: Fox Electric Supply Company - Philadelphia Pennsylvania

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  • Fox Electric Supply Company 3901 G Street Philadelphia, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

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Fox Electric Supply Inc. shipped me 12 smoke detectors in May 2005 although I only ordered 1 via their website. They only charged me for the one I ordered at this time.

I sent them a letter via email at this time and explained they shipped me 11 more than I ordered. They did not respond.

Eight months later in January 2006 they called me to ask for them back. Although according to both state and federal law it is illegal for a company to bill for unordered merchandise and the consumer is under no obligation to return any of it, I did decide to return half of them to them and keep half for my inconvenience. I had no idea they were going to bill me for these items as I assumed every company knows the law about this.

In January 2006 I noticed a charge from them on my credit card for all of the unordered smoke detectors plus an additional $24.72. I called them to discuss this matter and quoted the law to them about unordered merchandise. They hung up on me.

When I telephoned again, I was told to go ahead and sue them.

They have not responded to the 4 registered letters I have sent and they have refused to remove the charge. They put a credit on my credit card for the 5 items I voluntarily returned, but federal law states their charge in the first place was illegal.

They ignore the law and their actions have shown that they intend to make a customer pay for THEIR mistake (mistake or scam. At this point because of their unprofessional behavior I do not know which).

I have filed complaints against them with the BBB of greater DC, with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office, with the Federal Trade Commission, and with the Massachusetts Attorney General's office. None of this has motivated them to remove their illegal charge.

The next step will be small claims court this month.

Margaret
Groton, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
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#5 Author of original report

What finally prompted Capital One to remove charge!

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006

If your credit card company leaves an unauthorized and illegal charge on your credit card and tells you there is nothing they can do, take the next step. File a report against them with the Comptroller of the Currency, at http://www.occ.treas.gov/Consumer/customer1.htm.

It worked for me. After Capital One adamantly said they were going to leave the unauthorized charge on my credit card, I filed a report with the Comptroller of the Currency and faxed a copy of the complaint to Capital One.

The next day the charge was removed by Capital One.

It seems that the Comptroller is a serious ally for the consumer.

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#4 Author of original report

What finally prompted Capital One to remove charge!

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006

If your credit card company leaves an unauthorized and illegal charge on your credit card and tells you there is nothing they can do, take the next step. File a report against them with the Comptroller of the Currency, at http://www.occ.treas.gov/Consumer/customer1.htm.

It worked for me. After Capital One adamantly said they were going to leave the unauthorized charge on my credit card, I filed a report with the Comptroller of the Currency and faxed a copy of the complaint to Capital One.

The next day the charge was removed by Capital One.

It seems that the Comptroller is a serious ally for the consumer.

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#3 Author of original report

What finally prompted Capital One to remove charge!

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006

If your credit card company leaves an unauthorized and illegal charge on your credit card and tells you there is nothing they can do, take the next step. File a report against them with the Comptroller of the Currency, at http://www.occ.treas.gov/Consumer/customer1.htm.

It worked for me. After Capital One adamantly said they were going to leave the unauthorized charge on my credit card, I filed a report with the Comptroller of the Currency and faxed a copy of the complaint to Capital One.

The next day the charge was removed by Capital One.

It seems that the Comptroller is a serious ally for the consumer.

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#2 Author of original report

What finally prompted Capital One to remove charge!

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006

If your credit card company leaves an unauthorized and illegal charge on your credit card and tells you there is nothing they can do, take the next step. File a report against them with the Comptroller of the Currency, at http://www.occ.treas.gov/Consumer/customer1.htm.

It worked for me. After Capital One adamantly said they were going to leave the unauthorized charge on my credit card, I filed a report with the Comptroller of the Currency and faxed a copy of the complaint to Capital One.

The next day the charge was removed by Capital One.

It seems that the Comptroller is a serious ally for the consumer.

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Amended to state Capital One won't remove charges

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, March 04, 2006

Amended to also state that my credit card company, Capital One, has refused to remove the charge.

I explained federal law to them regarding unordered merchandise that how a charge for unordered merchandise is illegal. It did not matter to them.

Basically, federal law means nothing to them. They play this game well.

I will be closing my accounts with them.

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