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Complaint Review: GMC - AC Delco - Detriot Michigan

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  • GMC - AC Delco http://www.gmc.com/index.jsp?version=flash Detriot, Michigan U.S.A.

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I own a 2002 GMC Envoy and two days before my three-year warranty expired on January 28th 2005 I was left stranded with a dead battery. I tried to jump start my vehicle a couple of times without success.

Because it was a Friday night I called the 1(800) roadside assistance number for GMC. I gave the operator my information and she confirmed that my vehicle was indeed under warranty. She even offered to have a tow truck tow me to the nearest dealer. I said I would try to jump it again in the morning before I make the decision to have it towed. The next morning when I went to jump it I realized the positive cable had corrosion all over it. I cleaned it off thoroughly and it still did not start when I tried to jump it. I noticed the positive post was totally ruined so I went to the nearest auto parts place and bought a new bolt/post and replaced the corroded one and my Envoy started right up.

On Tuesday February 1st, 2005 I brought my vehicle in for an oil change and to have the battery checked at the dealership Crown Buick where I purchased my Envoy. I informed the technician of the trouble I had over the weekend and told him exactly what I did to get it started. When I went to pick my car up that evening I looked at my invoice and my bill was over $70. I asked the cashier about the extra charge for cleaning of the battery tray and she said that she would call my service advisor Ed. Ed came over and explained that I was over the 36,000 miles the warranty covers.

I actually had 37,191 miles on my vehicle. I explained to Ed that I understood about being over the 36,000 miles but I have a seven-year battery. Ed continued giving me a drawn out explanation about the warranty and what was covered and not. I next explained to Ed that he never called me to get my approval to perform any work besides checking my battery and changing my oil.

Later that night I decided to do some research on the Internet to look into buying my own AC Delco battery. To my amazement I found a website (http://www.ripoffreport.com/Auto-Parts/AC-Delco-GM/ac-delco-gm-battery-leaking-384AB.htm)
That had postings of other GM owners' who have experienced the same problem I am having with a corroded positive battery post.

The next day I called Crown Buick GMC and asked to speak to the service manager Jerry Gretch to inform him of my problem and what I discovered about the defective battery. He said that he would see what he could do and call me back. I gave him 24 hours and he did not call me back. And when I called Mr. Gretch he said that he spoke to his manager and there was nothing they could do for me. I suggested that they should at least refund me the $40 fee for cleaning my battery that I never approved and had already had cleaned.

I cannot believe that GM and AC Delco can get away with such a scam. I have even come to find out that GM owns AC Delco, which makes GM look even worse. I will definitely continue informing every GM owner I come in contact with of this problem. A handful said that they have already experienced the same problem with their battery. If I would have been aware of this before I purchased my vehicle I would have purchased another make and model.

Glenn
Metairie, Louisiana
U.S.A.

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#5 Consumer Comment

AC Delco Battery

AUTHOR: herb75 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, September 08, 2011

I replaced my 7 year Delco battery after 30 months. It was pro-rated for a 5 dollar refund. There is no warranty on AC Delco batteries.

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#4 UPDATE Employee

AC DELCO Technical Support

AUTHOR: Ac Delco Tech Support - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 12, 2008

We are the AC Delco technical support team. At AC Delco, we are committed to provide our valuable customers with the best services and assist them with any technical matter. We thrive to constantly improve our products, services and technical support and for over 100 years, your comments have helped AC Delco to make quality parts. For any question, assistance or suggestion, call our Toll Free number 1-800-ACDELCO (1-800-223-3526).

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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

GM is aware of the Problem, but will not admit it.

AUTHOR: Danny Daultry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 14, 2008

I own a 2002 Buick Rendezvous and I had no problems with the car after 46,000 miles until Nov.24,2006 which was the day after Thanksgiving. After stopping at a convenience store, the SUV just would not start. I tried to jump start the engine, but it did not help. The green indicator was showing so I believed my 5 year battery was still in good condition although it was 4 years old.

The next day and on a hunch, a friend and I went back with tools and a new battery. Using a very small wrench, with hardly any torque strength, the positive terminal broke off at the base and fluid leaked. Eventually, we put the new battery in and the car has worked well. Initially, I thought I was the victim of a 1 in a million bad luck incident.

A few days later I spoke in confidence to a mechanic who works for the GM dealer where I purchased the car. He said that they knew about the internal rotting of the positive terminal of the AC Delco battery. They experienced these problems because batteries have to be disconnected to perform many repairs.

It is simple to understand why nothing is being done. Delco is in bankruptcy and GM is already contractually liable for much of Delco's debt. A defective battery recall will only cost GM, not Delco. GM has enough trouble with leaking gaskets. They will not advertise that Delco also screwed-up.

In this case, Steve from Big Fork, MT, you are wrong.

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#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds

GM is aware of the Problem, but will not admit it.

AUTHOR: Danny Daultry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 14, 2008

I own a 2002 Buick Rendezvous and I had no problems with the car after 46,000 miles until Nov.24,2006 which was the day after Thanksgiving. After stopping at a convenience store, the SUV just would not start. I tried to jump start the engine, but it did not help. The green indicator was showing so I believed my 5 year battery was still in good condition although it was 4 years old.

The next day and on a hunch, a friend and I went back with tools and a new battery. Using a very small wrench, with hardly any torque strength, the positive terminal broke off at the base and fluid leaked. Eventually, we put the new battery in and the car has worked well. Initially, I thought I was the victim of a 1 in a million bad luck incident.

A few days later I spoke in confidence to a mechanic who works for the GM dealer where I purchased the car. He said that they knew about the internal rotting of the positive terminal of the AC Delco battery. They experienced these problems because batteries have to be disconnected to perform many repairs.

It is simple to understand why nothing is being done. Delco is in bankruptcy and GM is already contractually liable for much of Delco's debt. A defective battery recall will only cost GM, not Delco. GM has enough trouble with leaking gaskets. They will not advertise that Delco also screwed-up.

In this case, Steve from Big Fork, MT, you are wrong.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ac Delco Batteries

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, October 06, 2007

As a former Service Manager at a large GM dealership (for 17 years) I am responding in general about AC Delco batteries. In my experience I found them no more prone to failure than any other name brand battery . I found that "human hands" and after market accessories had more to do with battery failure than the product itself.
Typically, the separation of the post from the battery occurs because :
1. Somewhere along the line a "gorilla" has overtorqued the battery cable bolt and caused threaded insert to come loose in the battery which in turn allows battery acid to leak out and makes the problem worse.
2. Aftermarket systems (alarms, high powered stereos, etc) are direct connected to the battery instead of to an accessory bus bar and are torqued too tight (as stated above) or are to loose and allow arcing at the battery bolt connection causing the battery plastic case to actually melt from the heat that is generated and then the acid leaks out which again, compounds the problem.
3. Most if not all professional mechanics will disconnect a battery whenever they do any repair that affects the electrical system. This would mean any SES, Check Engine Light, SIR, ABS as well as conventional electrical repairs might require disconnecting a battery at the terminal in order to complete the repair. This can also be a cause of battery terminal failure due to repeated disconnecting and connecting and not paying attention to properly threading and torquing the battery bolts.
I have seen many a battery that should have had a much longer life but failed because of the above reasons. And this is just to do with the connection failure. The usual reasons for battery failure or shorter battery life still apply. Running a battery dead once and or repeatedly will usually shorten its life. Running it dead and then relying on the alternator to bring it back may not only shorten the battery life but also the alternator life. Extreme heat and extreme cold was usually when a battery will fail but not always. Accident/impact related damage that won't necessarily be directed at the battery itself just the shock of a hard hit can shorten the battery life. I could go on but suffice to stay that in my experience AC Delco produces one of the best batteries on the market today comparing product to product. Price, labor etc. will always be different from one shop to another and one region to another so will not get into that .

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