• Report: #369580
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Insight Marketing Concepts / LH International / Newline Promotions / Fusion Marketing

  • Submitted: Thu, September 04, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, May 20, 2009

  • Reported By:san diego California
Insight Marketing Concepts / LH International / Newline Promotions / Fusion Marketing
9387 Ruffin Ct Suite A San Diego, California U.S.A.
  • Phone: 858-5605055
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  • Category: Employers

Insight Marketing Concepts, LH International, Newline Promotions, Fusion Marketing Another marketing company under the Innovage, Smart Circle International facade who misled me and others San Diego California

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Opportunity is there but not for everyone

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Well my first piece of advice is to look up fox news' own John Mattis who did a story on Newline Promotions/LH International/Fusion Marketing (all 3 are run out of the same building). I'm sure he would love to do another report. I feel bad for your husband, but you're not the only ones who fall prey to their tactics. Literally hundreds of people in the San Diego area alone are deceived by this web of marketing companies all supplied by (what is now called) Innovage or Smart Circle International. In most cases, after the company has exploited these workers for use of their vehicle (including gasoline) they end up either making minimum wage for less hours than they are required to work (yes,I mean there are employees there who do not receive compensation for all their hours), or working as an 'independent distributor', which is also coercively illegal as the company (Newline, LH, Insight, Fusion, or whoever else is in there this week) go against the parameters of their contracts for independent distributors (i.e. mandatory meetings that a person could lose their ability to work for missing when the contract says clearly that no distributor will be required to attend any meetings). In most of these 'motivational' meetings what occurs is a tirade of yelling accusations littered with profanity because they are out of rational methods of motivating adult men and women to work up to 80+ hours a week for an average take home of $300 after gas and taxes (sorry for those who know I'm being generous at $300.00, I don't want people accusing me of 'overpromoting' read: lying). Their probable rebuttal to this is that I was a scumbag or a gimmel or whatever, but if you hear that from them, ask them to open the books and show you the average check payout or the settle up consignments for any given week. But don't hold it against the managers or even the 'vice president', they just haven't woken up yet to realize that every time they 'overpromote' their bank account or their income, they aren't just lying to themselves (which in and of itself is fine, this is America!), but they are also lying and misleading people desperately looking for a real vehicle with which they can raise a family and pay their bills, not go broke and stress out for years spinning their wheels. Sorry to anyone in 'the business' who had to find out this way, but don't believe me, ask how many 'outside deals' (people who started on a 'day of observation' and finally got promoted to 'owner') that they've promoted in the last 6 months/1year/whatever. You might also want to ask why so many of these very profitable young entrepreneurs do not own a car as it is crucial to their day to day success. Because they're making too much money? Or perhaps you might want to ask yourself why, once you are promoted to 'owner', you have to ask for permission to access money in your 'security' account. You might not want to ask all the 'owners' this, as it would only apply to the ones who actually had money in said account.

P.S. there is one more thing you could do, contact the mothers and fathers of these young locals who are working with this company and picket the front of the building with them or alone at 11:00a.m. to as late as 1:00p.m. any day Monday through Friday as this is when they recruit new distributors. If they get less new distributors than distributors that quit, they die off! Thank you ripoff report for providing a forum for these complaints, I wish I had payed more attention sooner, because these companies are all over your site once you search DS Max, or Innovage, or Smart Circle, or Granton Marketing, or Cydcor, or WWI, or..... you get the point.

san diego, California

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Opportunity is there but not for everyone

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

I was with fusion marketing concepts (Their Home Depot) branch for a few months and the opportunity just wasn't for me. Didn't mean I didn't make money at it. Where I worked I got either commission ($55 per appointment) OR minimum wage, whichever was higher.

The current owner, Jason, has been really upfront with everyone and made it clear how much money he makes building off a lead that you write up. I saw a few guys bank 500+ per week while I was there.

I had been suckered in by Scentura before and that's what I thought this opportunity was so I was skeptical.

The hiring process along these lines is basically hiring everyone who walks in and giving them a shot. We went through about 70 people building our group of 5 guys by seeing its not for them. And neither myself nor the people under me made any money unless they went out and wrote up leads.

After doing consulting work for several of these types of companies, its a harsh way to do business, but the truth of the matter is that most people that complain about it aren't able to admit that the job just wasn't a good fit for them so they blame the company and think its misrepresented.

You don't know what misrepresentation is until you sit in at a Scentura or Primerica meeting :P
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