Complaint Review: Jay Boyle Company / Astrological Gem - Fairfield Iowa
- Jay Boyle Company / Astrological Gem 508 N 2nd St. Suite 108 Fairfield, Iowa USA
- Phone: 800-559-5090
- Web: www.astrologicalgem.com
- Category: Jewelers
Jay Boyle Company / Astrological Gem Jay Boyle Mark E Kirbach Tarah Sands Tiffany Sold a Misrepresented CRACKED Yellow Sapphire. Very Defensive A**hole Manager & Unapologetic. Fairfield Iowa
*Author of original report: This entire thing was a misunderstanding. Jay Boyle Company and AstrologicalGem.com are a LEGIT company.
*Author of original report: Chargeback Intitiated.
*Author of original report: You Were Reluctant & Defensive...
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Re: 2.24 ct Yellow Sapphire
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I bought a 2.24 yellow sapphire gemstone online. The stone was not disclosed as being cracked inside and having scratches online neither over the phone.
They refused to admit it was damaged. They were reluctant to give a refund. The Manager, he first suggested an exchange. He was unapologetic, extremely rude and said I quote "I hope we never do business with you again."
Sorry Mark, but I'm afraid you don't do much business anyway and you lost the small business you have from me.
Per FTC Guidelines for gemstone merchants what they did misrepresentation, false advertising and highly unethical. Each violation: $5,000 fine
I have filed a complaint with the FTC as well.
They have also violated PCI compliance for merchant account holder in processing debit and credit cards. They take card numbers over the phone and than store them on their files. Each violation: $5,000 to $250,000 fine.
I had to pay $20.40 cents to ship back a misrepresented product which I should NOT have to pay. I have shipped them back the flawed undisclosed and misrepresented stone...
I have disputed the charge through Charles Schwab Bank as I do not trust they will issue the refund and their credibilty is has really been shot with the way they talked to me over the phone especially Mark Kirbach. That f****** condscending defensive no-fault of ours attitude a**hole.
A return policy stated on their site is 14 days. I shipped back the item exactly the day I got the item, which was no more than 2 days after I received the product. Which is well within the return policy.
But Mark Kirbach said I quote "I have to see.." "Do an exchange..."
What kind of a dodging response is that?
He asks completely inappropriate questions such as "Why do you have this nickname as your email signature?"
Hey a*****e, what does this have to do with ANYTHING?
He says "I'm just curious..." Pretty unprofessional.
If you would have stuck to business, been easy on the return instead of defensive and not ask questions not within your place or of any revelance for that matter and been polite...
You would have not been reported to the Attorney General in NY, BBB, FTC complaint filled, Yelp Negative Review, Google Negative Review, Pricescope negative complaint, dispute filed with my Card which will cost you a chargeback from your merchant account and associated bank....
These chargebacks and disputes can even have your entire merchant account frozen and shut down. You will than be placed on a "Terminated Merchant File List"... Try applying for another merchant account. It will be next to impossible to get one once you are placed on the list. I know because I'm a businessmen myself.
But thank yourself for that. And the way you treated a previous customer over such a small issue I would never ever in business treat that way.
And now here is this rip off report a**hole... Enjoy having Google place this high up in the search engine results. And with all the negative reports, enjoy losing business over it.
Next up is reporting you to the AGTA. Reporting your Google Adwords account. (I have one too but yours can kiss the dust goodbye.)
PS. This is a customer who has bought a $3600 dollar blue sapphire from these f****** p***** who treat customers with no ounce of politness, courtesy and give an no-fault of ours attitude. Along with obviously trying to doge a return-policy that they inside have every intention of dodging.
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#4 Author of original report
This entire thing was a misunderstanding. Jay Boyle Company and AstrologicalGem.com are a LEGIT company.
AUTHOR: Anonymous - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 06, 2014
I would like to update that the yellow sapphire was not cracked. The crack was not really a crack it was a natural inclusion commonly found in stones that are natural; even with VVS1 clarity grading as the inclusion was way off to the side and barely if at all noticeable so it can legitimately be graded as a VVS1 clarity stone according to GIA and many other authorities on gemstones.
They reimbursed fully including return shipping costs which was generous of them despite being incurred a chargeback fee as well.
I mentioned that I bought a VVS1 Blue Sapphire which they claimed to be unheated and untreated. I had the blue sapphire tested by AGL Labs to do a Gem Brief. It came back as a natural unheated and untreated 2+ carat blue sapphire.
So I would just like to apologize to AstrologicalGem.com and the Jay Boyle Company for this misunderstanding. They do not misrepresent their gemstones and they properly disclose their gemstones for all treatments if any and they properly represent their gemstones.
They are an AGTA member, which means they have to abide by strict ethics as a precious gemstone supplier and dealer.
AGTA is a reputable trade association and they also will handle any complaints towards any of their suppliers.
More info: http://agta.org/
So do NOT be afraid to buy from astrologicalgem.com or the Jay Boyle Company. They are honest suppliers who properly disclose and give true wholesale prices that jewelers usually can only pay.
They are legit and this rip-off report was done under anger by me over a misunderstanding. Go ahead and buy from them. You will not have any problems and they are the only sellers of precious gemstones that are of jyotish quality potent enough to give results.
Only 1-2% of natural fine untreated gemstones have any remedial power whatsoever. You can either buy from them to make it easier and cheaper for you or you can take a gamble with a 1-2% chance of winning.

#3 Author of original report
Chargeback Intitiated.
AUTHOR: HankiePankie - ()
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 07, 2014

#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Re: 2.24 ct Yellow Sapphire
AUTHOR: Mark - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 06, 2014
We received an email and phone message on March 5 from Ansub saying the yellow sapphire we shipped to him was scratched and not acceptable to him. I explained we have a 15 day, full refund return policy, so simply return it for a full refund. Once we receive our gemstone back, we'll issue the full refund, including the shipping cost Ansub incurred sending it back to us. This is our policy and has been for over 20 years. This is also the first such vitriolic complaint we've received in all this time.

#1 Author of original report
You Were Reluctant & Defensive...
AUTHOR: Anonymous - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 06, 2014
It was not merely scratched only. It was internally visibily cracked as well. If it was only a scratch... Polishing could have solved the problem and I would have not made the return.
You did not explain the refund policy over the phone on March 5. You are a liar. You never mentioned it. Huffed and puffed. Gave long pauses. "I have to see."
What do you mean YOU have to see?
Didn't your bogus non-honorable policy state "Unconditional Guarantee: 100% refund within two weeks of purchase on an un-set gemstone. If you are not completely satisfied, we will refund 100% of the purchase price of your gemstone any time within two weeks of your purchase. No hassle. We want to get the right gemstones to the right people for the right purposes. If you are having jewelry made, once the quote is accepted and the manufacturing begins, the sale is final."?
The guarantee doesn't state if YOU the manager Mark Kibach is not satisfied. It states "you" as an ME the customer is not satisfied.
You talked about an exchange I refused. I later told you an exchange is only acceptable under five conditions.


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