Joe Hale, National Products 323 934-2234 Scammer fast talks and attempts to get free work! Signal Hill California

Joe Hale first contacted me in 2015 after finding my design company on yelp. He's a fast talker, discribing how desigenrs had done him wrong in the past and if he only knew what he knows now....etc, etc. He doesn't let you get a word in edge wise, and describes what he needs from you in a manner that is confusing and riddled with contradictions - and if you get to the point of emailing with him, his writting is just as bad.

If you fall for his story, like I did in 2015, he starts to email you and ask for basically proof that you can do what you do. I've been through this before with clients and don't think too much of it. I do the task he wants and send him a PROOF...one with an water mark and lower res. After all, I'm not going to send him work that he hasen't paid for yet.

He gets quite upset and I explain that I don't give full resolution art work without a fullfilled invoice. This is how this industry works (atleast with clients you don't necessarily trust yet).He became more upset...and I became more nervous about the sincerity of Joe Hale. I told him that if he wasn't comfortable with my business practices, that perhapes my company wasn't the right fit for this project. He hung up.

About a year later, suprise suprise, my phone rings and 'Scammer Guy' comes up on the ID. I pick up, and Joe Hale starts his spiel all over again, as if we'd never spoke before. I say, 'I think we've spoken before'...he hangs up.

Today, my phone rings...it's a privete number....it's Joe Hale. He starts his spiel once again...as if we'd never spoken. I say, 'I'm going to stop you right there! You've now called me 3 times with this...STOP calling" He hangs up.

I'll tell you what...I wish he's stop calling! I'm sorta embarrassed for him - I mean, dude keep a list of those people you've already tried to scam!

Don't do work with this guy...he's super fishy and from other reports...if you do end up doing work for him, he won't pay.

He's totally scamming people out of graphics work.