• Report: #420474
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Larry H. Miller, Landcar Agency, Colorado Springs, Co., Toyota And Toyota Ca.,Help Incident081005-00

  • Submitted: Thu, February 05, 2009
  • Updated: Fri, October 08, 2010

  • Reported By:Breckenridge Colorado
Larry H. Miller, Landcar Agency, Colorado Springs, Co., Toyota And Toyota Ca.,Help Incident081005-00
9350 S.150 Sandy,, Utah U.S.A.

Larry H. Miller, Landcar Agency, Colorado Springs, Co., Toyota And Toyota Ca.,Help Incident081005-00 Sleazy from toyota dealer in Colorado Springs through to larry H. Miller and Landcar in Utah! Sandy And Colorado Springs Utah and Colorado

*Consumer Comment: Ripped Off By Landcar, Larry Miller and Toyota


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To whom it may concern.
We are retired 74 year olds living largely on Social security.
This whole thing has eaten away at me since last fall. Letting out my frustrations helps.
I am out $4,500.00.
They have lied and fed us a line of crap all along the way. There are no morals with these people!
Sue them? No thanks, at 74 we just want to treat and be treated fairly.
Why would want to spend our retirement years in courts dealing with Larry Millers empire?

A little smelly?? Read on.

Recently you contacted Toyota. Below is a summary of your contact message and our response.

Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you.

Re: Help [Incident: 081005-000089] Van Nguyen

Discussion Thread
Response (RFua) 10/23/2008 05:29 PM
Dear Mr. Krueger:
We regret to hear of your dissatisfaction in this matter.

According to our records, we note that the Service Manager, Dan Moran, and the General Sales Manager, Jason Frank, at Toyota of Colorado Springs reviewed all information pertinent to your case, and rendered a decision. Our review of the case indicates that all of Toyota's guidelines have been followed and we accordingly concur with the dealership's decision.

We have added your additional comments to your file #200810060712 where they are available for review by upper management.

We again apologize for the situation you encountered with your vehicle and we are sorry for any inconvenience or expense you may incur.


Ryo Fukuda
Toyota Customer Experience

Customer (George Krueger) 10/22/2008 08:58 AM
Incident created due to reply to expired incident 081005-000089.

Dear Mr. Van Nguyen, October 20, 2008

I think we have figured out what is happening with our claim.

1. We were not offered the Toyota warranty insurance package in 2005 when we bought our Camry.
Instead, we were only offered a "Land-car" Vehicle service contract, which we purchased for $1,370.00.
This Land-car does not have the best reputation. Check the Internet. But they are "cheaper" per DAN MORAN of Toyota Colorado, Colorado Springs. This contract is still in effect.
Toyota is not being served well by letting dealers suggest and use cut-rate warranty people instead of using Toyota's warranty/insurance!
One gets an eerie feeling that some of these people are in bed
with each other. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. NOT an ethical business practice.

2. It seems Mr.Jason Frank runs this dealership in Colorado Springs. Our meeting with him (Bottom line) was left at it would be our word against the man who wrote up the work order for us on August 27th., 2008. (Mr. Heath)
My wife and I definitely were not informed of the SERIOUS problem with the leaking water pump. We did not "decline" having it attended to promptly.
Yet, we were handed the keys and told they did not get all the 60,000 mile check work done.
No one suggested we leave our Camry over night and pick it up with the work completed the next day or make another
appointment A.S.A.P. to fix t he leaking water pump!
We live almost 100 miles away from this dealership!
Would you condone customers driving off your property/business with a car that you knew could be in serious
trouble soon? I think it would be very prudent to explain the possible troubles a customer would surely encounter in a short time. That
responsibility lies with Toyota of Colorado, motor city.

3. Please consider Land-car once more. Our Camry motor goes out in Denver. AAA tows it to the nearest Toyota dealer, GO Toyota on Arapahoe rd. Their people think the trouble is the motor and would have to take it apart to be sure.
At this point I told them to go ahead. My wife went to call Land-car to let them know what was happening, while went to rent a car for a week.
When Mrs. Krueger returned from her telephone conversation with a man named Branden at Land-car we were all surprised (including the Go Toyota service manager) to hear the news.
Land-car was going to send a tow truck to your GoToyota dealer and tow our Camry to a Volkswagen dealership on the other side of Denver!
Land-car told my wife that they did not do business with Go Toyota.

4. Our Camry is being repaired at the Gene Osborn Volkswagen dealership at this time.

5. I have written and telephoned Toyota National. I am sorry to say that a person in your offices in California (Sandra) was no help at all. She got every detail wrong. People were calling us who had no idea of why they got our number!

6. My wife and I are extremely upset over all of this. Our feelings are that we really did nothing wrong. We had the car serviced every time at the dealership when service was due.
I have no idea how they have a work order that says that we declined service. Someone should really look into this.
I was in business a long time and a LOT of this just plain stinks.
This entire mess needs to be looked into so that it doesn't happen again.

Breckenridge, Colorado

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#1 Consumer Comment

Ripped Off By Landcar, Larry Miller and Toyota

AUTHOR: Eddie - (United States of America)

I purchased a Vehicle Maintenance contract from Landcar Insurance a division of the Larry Miller Auto Group on January 7,2010 for my brand new 2010 Toyota FJ Cruiser.  The contract stated that I was to bring my vehicle in every 4 months or 5,000 miles.  When my vehicle hit 5,000 miles I scheduled my appointment at Riverview Toyota where I purchased the contract and vehicle from.  When I took the vehicle in that Saturday, they stated that I was sold the wrong policy for my vehicle and that there would be a $25.00 charge for the maintenance.  I told them I would not pay that and that I would be cancelling this contract immediately.  I called Landcar Insurance on Monday and told them I wanted to cancel the contract due to me not being able to use it and them selling me an invalid maintenance agreement.  I was told to send a letter to them via mail and they would cancel my contract.  I was told it would take 2 - 3 weeks for this to credit back to my account.  7 weeks later it still had not credited to my account so I called Landcar to find out what was going on.  They had totally misplaced the request and she told me they would credit my account immediately.  4 days later the credit still was not showing up.  I was told the credit of $304.58 would be crediting soon.  I checked my paperwork and noticed that I originally paid $375.00 for this contract.  I then called back and let them know that I expect full refund due to the fact that I would have never purchased this plan had I known that I would not be able to use it.  I was told they are pro-rating the plan.  How can they pro-rate a plan that has never been used and is a fraudulent contract because it can never be used?  This has been a total waste of my time with Landcar and I still expect the full refund of $375.00.  Even after trying to talk common sense with the supervisor there at Landcar (why would someone purchase a contract that they cannot use?) he told me that I would not get the full refund.  I am now reporting them to you due to the breech of contract and the fraudulent activities and the bad business practices.  I have all documentation.  I do not want to see anyone else get ripped off by the Larry Miller Auto Group or the Landcar Insurance division of Larry Miller. 

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