• Report: #658931
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  • Submitted: Fri, November 05, 2010
  • Updated: Mon, November 19, 2012

  • Reported By: James / Internet and MLM Wat — United States of America
1944 Catalina Dr Woodbury, Minnesota United States of America

Leadnetpro Leroy Lehr, James Manning teaches their sales people to break the law and use unethical and illegal sales tactics Woodbury, Minnesota

*Consumer Suggestion: GREAT Company and Program

*General Comment: Stealing Leads

*Consumer Comment: Please Provide Justifiable Proof/Backup on Your Complaint Against LeadNetPro

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Leadnetpro is a piece of junk but is disguised as a product. The main purpose is to generate money through an illegal pyramid and by using and selling illegal and unethical sales tools.

They teach uneducated homebased sales people to unknowingly break the law. Phone Broadcasting (Robo Calling) is against the law and violators are fined $16,000 per complaint. See the Link Below.

Leroy Lehr who peddles his webinar on Demand system from one company to another continues to promote these unethical and illegal tools to people who don't know any better. Maybe someone should ask Leroy why he has been terminated from 4 companies in only two years.

They also sell an illegal scraper to harvest phone numbers illegally. If you think it's legal to break into companies online data bases and steal phone numbers and emails then good luck explaining your ignorance to the judge.

Maybe you should ask Dan Miller and Leroy Lehr to pay your fines and serve you jail time. Ask them if they guarantee that it's legal. If so tell them to put it in writing and pay your fines before you buy it.

You get what you pay for. They are already under investigation. Good luck if you're using their sales tools illegally.

Facts you should know but LeadNetPro won't tell you.
Did you know there is no such thing as a DNC list for voice broadcasting. It went obsolete last year when the new law took over. Now you can't call any resident. It doesn't matter if they're on the DNC list or not. $16,000 fine for every offense. Can you afford that?

FTC all but bans robocalls | Politics and Law - CNET News
Aug 20, 2008 ... Federal Trade Commission is restricting telemarketers from sending prerecorded phone calls to consumers unless the consumer gives written ...
news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10021092-38.html -

FTC drops the banhammer on prerecorded "robocalls"
Aug 27, 2009 ... The Federal Trade Commission next week will make automated robocalls illegal for most telemarketers. Still, the list of exceptions mean that ...
(((link redacted)))

New Rule Prohibiting Unwanted "Robocalls" to Take Effect on ...
Aug 27, 2009 ... American consumers have made it crystal clear that few things annoy them more than the billions of commercial telemarketing robocalls they ...
www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/08/robocalls.shtm -

Have you investigated the owners? Here is the World Headquarters of LeadNetPro http://www.littleurl.net/78bcfc (click on the street view) It looks like a rented house...

World headquarters of LeadNetPro and VoiceBlastSystem - BEWARE ...
World headquarters of LeadNetPro and VoiceBlastSystem - BEWARE ... Is it a matter of time before they rip you off too? ...

Don't get Ripped Off Again. These guys are real pros.
Ask Questions.
Ask them how long they have been in business?
Who provides their voice broadcasting platform?
Are they using your money to buy minutes from another source.
What guarantee can you give me that you'll pay your bill if I pay mine?
How many businesses have they been with in the last two years?
Do they personally owe any past taxes?
Have they ever been involved in a ponzi scheme? (Ask Leroy or just google his name)
Is Phone Broadcasting Illegal?
Is stealing Phone numbers and Emails from company websites illegal.
Is using an automated scraper for stealing phone numbers and emails legal or ethical?
If they answer NO then ask for a written guarantee and to pay your fines.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

GREAT Company and Program


It is NOT against the law to call businesses.

LeadNet Pro is NOT telling anyone to call consumers.

The program only extracts Business emails and numbers.  An owner of a home based business is also a Business.  Sure they may use their home phone or cell phone for their business but that is why they were called.  They ADVERTISE their home number as their Business number.  This is the only time a "consumer" would be called.

You can't download, install and use a program and expect ANY Company...Microsoft included...to give you your money back.  You could keep the program and continue using it and the software company would be out of business.

This is NOT a MLM or illiegal pyramid.  You need to get your facts correct before you start bashing companies in public forums.  They only pay a referral/affiliate fee.  Thousands and thousands of companies have an affiliate program... see Amazon! 

Some people just like to complain.

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#2 General Comment

Stealing Leads

AUTHOR: cindyg58 - (United States of America)

I was investigating lead net pro and you accused them of stealing info from companies to make their leads.
Well I have never done business with them but currently am a telemarketer and call companies from leads every day. Our leads are obtained legally and have all the info you say lead net pro is stealing. What makes you think they are stealing this information? Just about ever company has the info on their company listed as a matter of public reference. We get our leads from a reputable source. A company that has been in business for many many years. What makes you think lead net pro does this any differently??? all info on companies is a matter of public information.
Our lead source is Manufactures Leads I know they are reputable.
The fact that you say lead net pro gets their info on companies is just not so. This info is available to any one who wants it.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Please Provide Justifiable Proof/Backup on Your Complaint Against LeadNetPro

AUTHOR: NetworkMarkerterPro - (United States of America)

Do you personally know "this" Dan Miller?  Have you actually bought and used the system yourself and tried it out?  I heard that they have live meetings every Thursday "live" with this Dan Miller.  Have you expressed your concerns to him in these meetings? What did he respond?

I was offered to join LeadNetPro recently also and I looked up Dan Miller and LeadNetPro and found a "ton" of Dan and/or Daniel Millers online.  This company is just two months old.  I only found your complaint attached to "this" Dan Miller and it seems like the four complaints here on RiipOffReport are one and the same (?).  If this isn't true, would the others here rebut to my comments, please?

According to the latest Alexa traffic ranking (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.leadnetpro.com):

LeadNetPro.com has a three-month "global" Alexa traffic rank of 31,208.

Approximately 80% of the site's visitors are in the US, where it has attained a traffic rank of 3,709. Compared with the overall internet population, the site appeals more to users who browse from home; its audience also tends to consist of men over the age of 35 who have attended college and have incomes between $30,000 and $100,000. 

I can only "assume" that men over the age of 35 who have attended college and have incomes between $30K and $100K  CAN (and "knowingly") make an educated decision as to buying ANY home-based business opportunity online. 

Can you please tell me where you get YOUR statics to make such a comment/complaint?  Or advise as to how Alexa.com could be so wrong with theirs? 

I haven't bought into this program, however after reading more about them and trying to educate myself, as a concerned consumer and make an "informed and educated" decision, I want to make sure that comments and/or complaints such as yours are also backed by justifiable facts and proof.  Can you please provide that?

Thank you!
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