Manton Kennels, Patton's Caspian Horses, Linda Patton, Stacey Jackmon Theft and Lies, Ripping off people since the 1960's, Selling Cleft Palete Puppies, Stealing Caspian Horses Onondaga Michigan

Well this is for anyone who had shown interest in this matter.
We went back to court on the 23rd and Linda agreed to give us back our DOG (poppy).
We got her on Thanksgiving day.She is healthy and very happy to be home,you'd never know she left.
The only thing that bothers me is...after all she said we did to this dog the poor treatment, how we starved her and sprayed her with RAID. You'd think it would be more important to keep the dog safe....I guess it's clear ...if it comes down to thinking of the animals well being or not paying out some cash we can clearly see the motive.

Pretty funny......but anyone that knows me at all or has ever met me knows I will not go into the shelter......Jackson or any other. Someone else always does my pulls for me. Call me a wimp but that's my one true weakness. It makes me too sad to see all the animals I can't save so I let someone else do the deciding for me. I also have never been to any meeting.....cat or any other....down in Jackson. I'm not sure who you met, but it certainly wasn't me. Seems to be a whole lot of Tammy's running around out there.I've had my say on what I know about this whole situation. Now, everyone can just leave me out of it.

First I'd like to say I was made aware this was posted by people in our Chihuahua group.They all knew the story of how Linda refused to give poppy back to us.I did not write any of this s**t but I will say...Linda you are a bold face liar, you bred poppy knowing she had a litter before with this same problem and your bullshit about my spraying poppy with raid is also a lie.

what you were told was the only thing used at our home was raid spayed outside for ants in march,long before poopy had pups,you also said we caused the problem by feeding purina and although we do feed purina it does not cause hairlips.I went with you to dr.snows and you stood there while she told you this is congenital and you should have expected it since she already had a pup like that.Also your telling people we killed angel and brutus another lie.

they were given to a family whom you already met once when they came to look at brutus as a puppy they work for the prison and provided them a wonderful home.I was the one who calmed your dumb a*s down and told you folic acid is what is used to stop hairlips.

As for your friends,I don't know any of them but I do know Joyce,I called her to tell her what yoou had done,I thought it only fair others be warned of your bullshit.We did nothing but be nice to you and it was me who thought you were my friend not the other way around.

you never told us when we bought poppy that she would have to whelp at your house, you came up with that after breeding.and when we told you how we felt about leaving her there you PROMISED we could see her all the time since we lived just down the road.We saw her once when you brought out the female pup telling us this would be ours if it lived.

We tried several times after to see her and each time you said no then you ask for us to pay 1/2 the vet bill since we're getting a free puppy and we did,and then when i called to ask about the pups your mom told me they had ALL died.Steve called you back saying if they are all dead when can we get poppy,you said we're not getting her back cause you lost hundereds of dollars when this litter died.That is when we put the cops on you and took you to court,not before that.And as far as not selling those pups,yoou might have kept them but we had a letter in court showing you tried to sell them to a man named Richard as show quality for 750.00 then you said 550.00 if he signed a contract to have them fixed.

I'm sure in your world you believe your lies and I'm happy for you.But I was your friend and we did all kinds of things to help you out and you know it.I told steve one day and ask Joyce this too because I told her as well,"I really thought Linda was my friend and even after what she did, if she called me saying she needed something I'd be stupid enough to be her friend again."

Now you can say whatever you like but you know what I said is true.

I don't remember claiming to be anyone but myself,but since it is a worry to so many,I live on High Street in Jackson and not in Eaton Rapids.It seems strange that the other Tammy is coming to this persons defence when she has been running around telling people Linda owes her almost 200.00 for vet work preformed on Linda dogs.

As well as the whole problem with the Mastiff.
Funny you don't remember me Tammy, as you met me at the shelter when I adopted a large white shepard mix in 2003. You stood outside talking to me for almost an hour. I also have been to the cats meeting in Jackson, where the whole Mastiff story and money owed was discussed openly.

You met alot of people at the Jackson shelter. Nice people picking up dogs and taking pictures, people who love to talk about other people.

Seems Linda is still not telling the full truth,she neglegts to inform the reader that the b***h in question Mantons Popcorn had a litter last winter with a cleft pup as well and she chose to bred the dog in spite of it.
She also is telling a bold lie that the dog was spayed with Raid,the dog was not spayed nor treated for anything during her pregnancy,she had one check up during pregnancy at Blackman clinic and 2 weeks prior to giving birth and she weighed 18 lbs. That is hardly under weight.
The raid was broght up when Linda asked why there were no fleas on the owners property,the owner responded by telling Linda the home was sprayed OUTSIDE fopr ants and fleas and the dogs were bathed once a week there.
The dog was never spayed with Raid.
Linda also tried telling the owner the clefts were caused by feeding the dog Purina,a sugestion the Purina company is laughing at.
Linda also neglegets to tell anyone how the people she calls (thought to be friends)went several times to Detroit to pick up dogs for her at their expence,gave her an electric fence system for her horses,hauled hay several times,fixed several things on her property for free,lights,lawn mowers, ect.gave her a truck that she returned saying was un-safe,also untrue the mechanic she took it to knew the truck owner and told him Linda was nuts,he never told her it was an un-safe truck, he told her it had a rust bed.A fact she was made aware of before she even was given the truck.Linda lost in court because she had nothing to back up her outragous lies.All the evidence was on the plantiffs side.
Also Linda has a few other things wrong,the dog was sold in March not May,it was bred in May not July,it gave birth in July not August.
There is a written contract and nowhere on it does it state the dog be returned to whelp.
Linda if your going to lie make up far better lies then these or you'll loose your appeal as well.

Since I'm supposedly the "Tammy" from Jackson, I figured I'd better respond to this nonsense. I did not write any of the comments concerning Linda Patton and I do not appreciate my name being used in this slanderous manner. I know who is writing this nonsense and it had better stop!

The dog Linda is accused of stealing is one that was adopted out and returned for breeding as part of the adoption contract. Yes, the puppies were born with birth defects, but no, Linda did not adopt out the surviving two as "show quality" dogs. She would not adopt them out because she was unsure of their overall health. She kept one and gave the other to a family member. What the author of the above article neglected to tell you was that the puppies were born with defects because she, the adopter, was stupid enough to spray the mom with Raid to treat for fleas thus causing severe birth defects. Linda kept the mom because she refused to return her to that type of environment. Yes, Linda has a judgement against her in Jackson, but the author neglected to tell you that the judgement is being appealed and the outcome will not be fully determined until November.

Linda has fostered several dogs for me and I have been very happy with the care they received. Yes, we had an incident concerning improper placement of a Mastiff. However, the incident was not serious and the situation was resolved. It was not Linda's responsibility to take the dog back. It was my responsibility as the rescue organization to take care of the situation. It was not Linda's "problem", it was mine. She is not banned from rescue or fostering. I would not hesitate to use her again if needed.

Stop writing this nonsense! If you don't have enough guts to put your name on these complaints, don't bother writing them. You really do need to find something better to do with your time.

I beleive it is time that the truth be told.
Yes, I am a breeder, and yes, I do dog rescue as well. I am proud of what I do and have done nothing I can say that I am ashamed of or need to hide from.

May 04, I received a phone call from a lady down the road looking for a Boston Terrier to add to her family. It just so happens I had a 1 1/2 yr. old female, I was considering on placing in a new home. She being a great little dog, needed to be in a family with less dogs, as she had a tendencie to be a trouble maker. She wanted to be the alpha.

After a lengthy phone conversation, I thought that this ladie's situation may work out perfectly for the dog, so I invited her and her husband over to meet the dog.

We spoke for several hours about their past pets and experiences with them, how they felt about certain issues on dogs, ect...

I was pretty happy with them so I told them I would agree to sell the dog to them. I gave them the price, and after a minute or two, The lady asked if I would consider selling the dog for a lesser price under breeding contract. She assured me they were not interested in breeding dogs or puppies, but could not afford to pay my asking price.

We discussed that if I agreed, there would be stipulations that they would need to assure me they would follow.

I explained to them that I VALUED my reputation and that they would have to maintain the dog on my homemade dog food, which consist of meat, rice, and vegitables and they would also need to feed a premium brand of dog food free choice, I gave them a couple of brands I wanted her kept on and they agreed.

I also told them that when she came in season, she would be returned to me and I would have her bred to my stud. After she was bred they could retreive her and keep her until two weeks PRIOR to whelping and she would then be returned to me to be whelped out and she would remain in my care until the puppies were old enough to be WEANED, which in most cases is 8 weeks. I explained that because I VALUED my reputation, that I felt it best that the puppies be born in my care and raised here, as there are things I do specail for my puppies that I couldn't expect anyone else to do. I also feel that to put my name behind any dog I should be responsible for his care, health and well being.
Again, everything was agreed upon.

They paid me $100.00 and took the dog home.
I spoke to this lady daily after that, giving her all the help I could on how to properly care for the dog and soon we became friends,(or so I thought).

The dog was bred on her next cycle and the 1st of July, 2 weeks prior to whelping, she was returned in my care. She seemed thinner than what she had been in her previous pregnancy (which resulted in 5 beautiful, healthy babies) But I thought maybe she wasn't carrying as many babies this time as I was sure this couple was doing as I had asked, when it came to her care...

On July 15, 2004 at approx. 9 pm, the dog went into labor, my mother Stasia Jackman was home "babysitting" the dog at the time. I got home from work at 20 after 9, and sure enough the dog was in labor, though a very strange one it was. By 11 pm there were still no puppies. I want you to understand, my Bostons are free whelpers and are bred for it.

I put a call into my vet, who was not taking emergency calls, so I called the vet, the "couple" used.

He gave me some advice and I followed and ever so carefully inserted a finger far enough to reach a puppie, hooked my finger around his hip and gently pulled him out. It was a Boy! And he was ALIVE, Wahoo!, I cleaned and dried him and did a thorough inspection and and to my horror, he had a hairlip... I was disappointed and stunned, I had bred this female before (same stud, accidently however, but still the same cross) and she produced 5 beautiful babies, why problems now? The reader should also be aware, I have both parents to this female and they have had 3 beautiful litters, and the above dog's mother also whelped a beautiful litter of pups by the same stud she was bred too.

Anyhow, The next pup was born after midnight July 16, again I had to manually pull the pup, she was not having a normal labor at all. The next pup a little male, again hairlip. And again another pup born, another hairlip, this time a little girl. The next 2 pups were born and THANK GOD, They were "normal" or appeared that way.

By now it is after 5 am, puppies are nursing peacefully and all seems well, except we were still missing 5 afterbirths.

8am I loaded mom and pups in the car and rushed to the vet. I had the little hairlips examined for cleft palate and the first male born had a small cleft.

The veterinarian, sutured the the little hairlips up, in hopes they would get better suction while they nursed. I took the little ones and momma dog home and called the "couple" I told her all about it, and I was totally a wreck I couldn't understand what went wrong and that I would have momma dog spayed soon as she weaned this litter and my stud was going to be nuetered as well, I am not going to have another litter like this.

The lady, seemed very sympathetic and said she help me do some reasearch before I did anything I would regret.

So research she and I both did.

36 hours after his birth, the second born puppy faded and queitly passed away, even though I did what I could to save him. I told the lady one of the pups had passed away and she rushed over to take his body, She said she should keep it in her freezer should I decide to perform a necropsy.

Not thinking anything of it, I gave her the body, I had more important things to worry about, I had 4 puppies I needed to save. By now, every couple hrs round the clock, either myself or my mother was tube feeding the 2 remaining hairlips and supplementing the two "normal" pups as momma dog just wasn't producing enough milk, for some reason.
A few days later, the lady and I were talking on the phone, still trying to figure out what went wrong with this litter, when all of a sudden she begins to cry. Whats wrong??? It's all my fault, she says. Whats all your fault? I sprayed the dog with raid while she was pregnant. And she began to cry some more. I was stunned by her admission and kind of angry... Of all the stupid things to do... But i never said it out loud, I felt sorry for her, she clearly felt bad about what she had done, and I don't think she realized at the time what her actions would cause... And Even though her slanderous lies, have caused me quite a bit of greive, I still to this day don't beleive she had any intentions of harming this litter.

In way, I was relieved, I had a pretty good clue of what had gone wrong. Now I just had to save these babies.

Unfortunately at 2 1/2 weeks of age, I had to make a decision, the 1st male born was not doing well, even with all my efforts I could not get this little man well and so I made a very difficult decision and had him put to sleep.

It was THE HARDEST THING I EVER HAD TO DO, I really loved the little puppy and it broke my heart. But I had 3 puppies left, a little girl in the litter that had a hairlip and I was determined to save her, and two little males left who were beginning to give me cause for concern. They just did not act like normal puppies, they had little bodies and big heads, there motor skills were not advanced as they should be and their eyes were barely starting to open, (normal pups eyes and ears begin to open at about 10 days).

Heres where it gets interesting...
The pups again are 2 1/2 weeks of age, it is Tuesday and approx. 8 am The lady calls and she and her husband want to come down and visit the dog. Sure, but i have to work so make it early.

Well All my dogs are outside haveing a ball, including momma dog. I call momma dog in to be with her babies, whelping box is clean and fresh, pups are fed, its time she take over so I can get my horses (no I bought and paid for them all, no stolen horses here) and the rest of my dogs taken care of. Anyhow, momma dog was having no part of being a mom today, she wanted out to play and she was convinced she would have her way. You can imagine what I spent the rest of morning doing, it was calming momma dog down and making her behave.

Finally got outside and could take care of the rest of my crew and at around 2 pm, The couple pulls up and I knew that in light of the events that morning a visit would get momma wound up again. I tried to explain to the couple the events of the morning and told them we would have to plan a visit for another day. AND WOW!! I got let lose on.... I was stunned.

A few days later, Friday, The couple calls and DEMANDED the mom dog be returned to them immediately. Of course the answer was NO! She has 3 week old pups on her and she is to stay here till they are weaned. THANK YOU END OF SUBJECT!

Well true to their nature, the threats started. There most famous and one they have tried to make the most good on. I WILL RUIN YOU. Well I'll give you this you are working hard at it.

Well i just figured they were acting like brats because they didn't get there way and soon as they thought about it and discovered what spoiled brats they were behaving like, they would get over it.

Monday, I was greeted by a police officer at my door. Of corse NOW I'M ANGRY. I have had enough. NO, THEY CANNOT HAVE THE DOG, SHE IS NURSING 3 WEEK OLD PUPPIES!!!!!!! AND YES NOW I DON"T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE HER BACK AT ALL!!!!
August 10th (Puppies were born July 15-16) I was served with court papers. Now do the math, how old are the puppies???? Should a momma dog be taken away from her babies? NO I don't think so either. Should I have to deal with these type of people? Did I breach my contract? NO! I did as I was supposed to, I bred the dog, whelped her out and even forgave the lady spraying her with raid, and was keeping momma dog as agreed until the pups were weaned, which again is in most cases 8 weeks of age.

On Sept. 29,04 The ladies husband and I met in the court room. HE lied to the judge and convinced him that I am this theiving dog snatcher and unfortunately I was hung before I ever opened my mouth. The judges first words to me were and I qoute " I think I have already made my decision, but say what you've got to say." I was only given a moment to speak and as I did so the judge was not listening anyway. I lost. The case is on appeal at this time, I will tell my side of the story. I still feel I have done nothing wrong. Maybe some of you will, and thats okay, but atleast you've heard my side and were able to pass judgement on me based on fact, not fiction.
I should also let you know at age 3 1/2 weeks old, the last hairlip passed away. She appeared to have more problems than just being a hairlip, she never grew, only her head did... The other two boys grew up and are both doing fine, One male has extremely large testicles and it's strange but true, the other lil man has the tinyest little man parts... Not to make light of a sad situation, but both boys were aptly given the nicknames Mounds and Almond Joy.
I have kept one of the boys and he is spoiled rotten! The other little boy lives with my aunt and is very spoiled too. I did not register these boys, nor did I sell either one, Ethically and morally I could not sell these boys as I cannot guarantee their health, at present, they seem to be healthy and other than the t******e problem, which they soon will not have anyway, physically they seem fine too. Luckily there strange growth patterns as newborns has fixed itself, and they seem just like any other 3 month old boston.

To "Someone In Michigan I ripped off", you know you are the ones I am writing about, you also know you are "TAMMY" in the next complaint letter. But if one reads between the lines they will see, you became Tammy to try and save your butte, As My "latest" victim has come forward to let everyone know she had never had any bad dealings with me.
So now that the truth is on the table, why don't you grow up and act your age. I was NOT born in the 60's rather the 70s, but high school was a long time ago. Proud of who I am and No Victim No more, LINDA M. PATTON
PROUND OWNER AND BREEDER OF BOSTON TERRIERS AND CASPIAN HORSES And Rescuer TOO!

I just read the rip off report on Linda Patton and I believe it to be mostly true. We have checked the Jackson court and she was sued and lost, a judgement of 650.00 was ordered against her and her mother.

I don't believe she was old enough to be doing those things in the 60's, but does often brag her mother was a breeder in the 60's of dogs and that is most likely where that came from.
Linda Patton is no longer aloud to rescue dogs in the county of Jackson and has been banned by the shelters there.

She was fostering dogs for a rescue group and adopted out a mastiff to a family with a 2 year
old child.The dog attacked the child and when the parents contacted Linda about the removal of the dog she refused saying "it was not her problem".

It was Linda who screened this family and KNOWINGLY placed the mastiff with a 2 year old in the home.She is no longer a rescue or foster.
Yes her place is clean and the animals very well cared for but that fact does not discount PROVEN court documents of theft.

She did breed a Boston knowing it had a past litter with clefts and then registered the remaining 2 uneffected pups from the last litter and sold them as "show dog quality".

I have read the Ripoff Report and am appalled at the allegations. I am Francie Stull, co-owner of the Kristull Caspian Horse Ranch. Linda contracted to buy Caspians from us in 2001. She was absolutely timely about making payments and never once asked that we forgive or postpone a payment, contrary to several of our other buyers over the years. She took on extra jobs starting at 5 am each day to be able to maintain a perfect payment record.

Linda has since that time purchased an additional stallion from us, Shojan, to stand with her lovely Fiddaz. You can check out: http://caspianhorse.com/forsale_stallions.htm We also plan to send two of the most famous stallions in Caspian history, Danda Daniska and Henden Zebedee to stand at stud at her facility.

Just recently, Linda visited our ranch in person while attending the Annual Meeting of the Caspian Horse Society of the Americas, of which she is the Vice President. We are making arrangements to bring two of her fillies down here to add to our herd. They are in beautiful condition and health.

I have no idea what this complainant's problem is. They do not indicate exactly what Linda Patton has done to them that would make them so bitter. As a dog breeder, I am aware that some breeds do have a problem with cleft palettes. But the poor language, appalling spelling and grammar errors, and fraudulent claims would make me question the motives of this complainer. I don't even believe that Linda was old enough to have a business of any sort in the 1960's !

I would like very much to have my name and ranch removed from this complaint immediately. I have NO problem with Linda Patton and do not want my reputation to be in league with such a poorly contrived smear campaign.


Sincerely,


Francie Stull
http://www.Kristull.com

Site administrator:
Please see that this complaint is taken down. It is a lie and I did not post it.

I have known Linda Patton for a couple of years now and have found her to be a totally honest hard working person. She would never do any of the things she has been falsely accused of here.

I sent a horse to her for training and had no problem retrieving him at the end of the training.

I have also visited her place and found it to be very clean and well organized. ALL of her animals are well taken care of. she is very consciencous and her place shows it. She would never knowingly sell a defective animal to anyone.

If all dog and horse breeders were as consciencous as her, she would be out of a job as a rescuer.