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Complaint Review: Metro MSI - Innovage - Metropolitan Management Systems - Davie Florida

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  • Metro MSI - Innovage - Metropolitan Management Systems 4051 S.W. 47 Ave Suite #101 Davie, Florida U.S.A.

Metro MSI - Innovage - Metropolitan Management Systems This Company is misleading employees They have cult practices Davie Florida

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: This Guy is a Liar

*General Comment: AKA RF Lilly & Associates, RFL Inc. & formerly of Chicago - aka Midwest Impulse Inc, and Metro Marketing in Minneapolis, MN

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My ex fiance became employed with Metro MSI one year ago. She was promised a managers postion within 6 months of hire date. After 6 months came and went and no manager postion. She was then promised a managers position within 8 months. 8 Months came and went and still no manager position became available. Now it is comming up to one year and my fiance puts in well over 80 hrs a week and brings home barely $350 a week on an avarage. We have had many, many arguements over this job and it eventually was the demise of our relationship. So many hours invested, while her manager recognizing that my fiance was making alot of money for them. Management set goals for each individual, (Goals consist of making a certain amount of cash sales per day). when in actuality, its not the employees goal, but rather the manager who sets the goals in order to make money for management, leaving the one who labors broke...

It is a pyramid scam... You have to get a certain many employees to work under you for a certain period of time. This can also be seen in Amway type pyramid scams. It does not work because of the type of people the job attracts. Every now and then, Metro MSI gets a good person (like my ex-fiance) and this is how they make their money. Exploiting good intentions from good people in order to gain for themselves.

After my fiance was employed with Metro-MSI, she had to ride with a manager to go from business to business trying to sell cheap junk that most dollar stores will never carry. While doing door to door, the managers car was broken into and my fiance had her purse stolen... Metro-MSI didn't feel obligated to pay for this. I had to argue and fight to get only 50% back.

After approximately 8 months of being employed with Metro-MSI, my ex had to go with new applicants into the field to do sales. While she stopped to get gas, the two applicants went into her purse and stole all of her money, and the money that was collected from sales for the day. Metro-MSI made my ex, and I pay all of it back...

Please, do not be sucked in to this company... You will not progress forward in life. You can make way more money working at Mc Donalds with the hours they enforce at Metro-MSI. Metro-MSI pays commission only, so remember this when you try to sell somebody a piece of junk. They actually put you through alot of fake "positve self improvement" crap that actually blinds the employee into thinking this company cares about the employee, when in actuality all they care about is their own pockets getting fatter and fatter.

Ever seen requiem for a dream? Remember "JUICE BY SARA, JUICE BY SARA, GOOOOO SARA!!!!!" They actually say this and use "Juice" as some type of metaphore for positve affirmation... I think it is very cult like, and very scary that the woman I was with for 5 years was so easily manipulated into this crap....

Remember, if what they say is true, and thousands upon thousands of people who work for Metro-MSI are successful people, then don't you think everybody would be doing it?

Fedup
fort lauderdale, Florida
U.S.A.

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AKA RF Lilly & Associates, RFL Inc. & formerly of Chicago - aka Midwest Impulse Inc, and Metro Marketing in Minneapolis, MN

AUTHOR: kjh2@comcast.net - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 28, 2009

I responded to an ad in CareerBuilders that sounded interesting.  "Sales and Customer Service with Growth Potential" with the company name RFL Inc.  Then several ads and applications I see this ad "ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS - Start Immediately!!" with the company name RF Lilly.  I didn't immediately connect them, put in another app.

A short time later I get a call to schedule an interview from someone named Amy.  When I tried to ask questions, she evaded by essentially saying all would be revealed at the interview.  When I asked her to hold for a moment so I could pull over (was on my cell in the car), wanted to get the particulars, she tells me to just give her my email address and she'd send me some info and the directions.

It just seemed a little too pat for me, so when I got home I decided to do some research, and boy am I glad I did.

The first thing I find when I was trying to locate the ad I responded to - they have 7 ads on CarreerBuilder alone, all along the same vein, big on promises, not big on the details of the job(s).  So went to Sunbiz.org (State of Florida Dept that oversees business licensing...), first, there is no RFL, Inc. listed in the state of Florida, RF Lilly and Associates,  comes up as owned by Richard Toplak, who also owned Metropolitan Management Systems (which is defunct as of 9/25/09), as is another business, named "FW MSI, INC." - both of the same address in Davie, FL and were listed as solely owned by Richard Toplak.  RF Lilly and Associates, LLC, actually shows Richard Toplak & Liliana Toplak as managers with an address listed in Margate.

A google of Richard Toplak shows he has been in this business for a  long time, this link takes you to an article on it when he was in Chicago http://www.chicagoreporter.com/index.php/c/Inside_Stories/d/Peddling_Hope:_'Steel_Wheel'_Salesmen_Take_On_Chicago

While I'm reading this article, a friend calls me, and I'm telling him what I'm finding on this company and he realizes this is the place that his college age son "worked for" a couple weeks ago.  Spent a couple days following someone else around carrying the boxes of crap they were trying to sell, but he wasn't getting paid until he actually went out on his own. 

This is one of those companies that send people out to sell cheap crap on the streets and door to door.  There is no "customer service" involved, it's only sales, hard core door to door putting miles on your shoes sales.  There is no "entry level management potential".

I'm writing this because I think people should know as much as they can before you go to an interview, when the company doesn't provide that info, or as with this one seems to evade giving it, then we need to have a way to find it.  Again, the company names I find are:

RF Lilly & Associates, R. F. Lilly and Associates, RFL Inc., Midwest Impulse Inc (formerly of Chicago), Metropolitan Management Systems, FW MSI, Inc, and Metro Marketing in Minneapolis, MN

Hopefully anyone googling any of these company names will be able to see what they have to look forward to, I'm not saying that no one could do this job successfully, I'm just not fond of the scummy way they try to get people.  To me there is no such thing as too much info.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

This Guy is a Liar

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 08, 2008

This guy who wrote this used to abuse his fiance! She wound up having to move away from him across the country and she is still employed by one of our affiliated offices. You simply can't believe everything that you read on the internet! There are always two sides to every story, and as an old employee of Metro-MSI, I can honestly say that this company is really awesome and they offer great opportunities for those who want to work hard to have something of their own.

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