• Report: #1128090
Complaint Review:

Narconon

  • Submitted: Tue, March 04, 2014
  • Updated: Tue, March 25, 2014

  • Reported By: Dave M****62385 — Moonachie New Jersey
Narconon
watsonville, California USA

Narconon complete rip off, cult, scientology linked and practiced, zombies, brainwashing watsonville California

*Author of original report: i take back my rebuttal

*General Comment: whoever he is he's not brain washed

*General Comment: hey

*General Comment: LRH was an SP

*Consumer Comment: Definately Brainwashed

*Author of original report: I take it all back.

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i was a resident at narconon in watsonville california for nearly 2 weeks.  i quickly realized it was all brain washing tactics, but i wasn't allowed to make phone calls for 10 days, so i played along until i was able to call my parents.  my phone calls where monitored b/c they knew i was suspicous of them. they had me watched and followed at all times.  when i walked out the first time they refused to give me my things. i went back. the next day i left and walked 10 miles while being followed (i even called the police from a pay phone to tell them i was being harassed).  

They still refused to give me my cell phone as well as any of my belongings. i got on a bus to san fransisco just to get the hell away.  Luckily my dad knew someone who had a daughter who lived there and i was able to stay the night.  it was mad hard to orchestrate though b/c i didnt have my cell phone, i had to walk around for hours to find pay phones and figure out what the hell i was doing.

narconon also told my parents i'd have access to a sauna while detoxing.  the fact is, u r only allowed to use the sauna during that part of the program which isnt for 3 weeks after u get there.  i was never in the sauna once, but the other people that were there had to be in the sauna for 7 hours a day after taking 1500mg of niacin and running 2 miles.  the sauna was at some rediculous high temp also, i forget exactly what it was.  one girl passed out while i was there and she was refused medical attention.

narconon told my parents i'd have medical detox. they dont even give u tylenol.  instead they give u a "drug bomb' which consists of 2000 vitamins and minerals.  this stuff was so pungeant that u have to eat yogurt first or it will burn your stomach.

during the first 10 days they make u do sessions where you walk around the detox cabin and they ask you the same question over and over.  "Look around, what do you see is really real to you?" i'd answer - that tree. they would say "Cool, go over and touch it." or "Right on! go over and touch it.. *touch*, great, now let go of it".  This would could go on anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour or more until u have a 'realization'. then after that they'd just have a new question but it'd be the same game.  "What can you have?" -that chair- "nice! go over and touch it... now let go of it..." and so on.

after detox cabin u take 20 tests, then phase 1 is like this.  u have random partner (another student). u face eachother in a chair and stare at eachother w/ ur eyes closed for an hour. if u move u start the hour over.  after that, u stare with eyes open for an hour, no talking, and movements u start over.  Then comes bullbaiting. u literaly have to try and piss ur partner off.  while i was doing eyes open, there was a guy and girl bullbaiting next to me. it went like this no joke:

Guy: u think ur so hot? i bet u were a little s**t? u like to suck d**k? i bet u do? u love that d**k

Instructor: (walks over)  Yea, she does look like a s**t. i bet she wnats to suck ur d**k rite now.

i am not kidding.  This was awkward cuz my partner was a 45 year old lady and we had to stare at eachother in the eyes while this was going on... All these exercises are practiced in scientology by the way.

also, in scientology if u misbehave u get a 'chit' and after enuf they punish u.  This was exactly the same at narconon.  They would give me chits and they make me rake the entire front lawn for hours as punishment for not doing what they told me.  It's brain washing and a breaking down of the spirit.

35,000 dollars for this...  WHATEVER U DO, DO NOT GO TO NARCONON. U will regret this decision every minute ur there. they refused a refund also. still working on that.  hope this helps.


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#1 Author of original report

i take back my rebuttal

AUTHOR: Dave Martinez62385 - ()

the only reason i had to write that non-sense about narconon not being so bad was that they wouldn't give me a refund unless i did.  my dad paid 30,000 dollars to them, they said they would refund 9000. after they saw this report they said they would give nothing until i made a rebuttal.  after that they finally (after 4 months) send my dad a 4,500 dollar check and said they couldnt give back the 9000 b/c of the original report here.

i just want everyone to know this place is a rip off and then some. do not send your kids here. do not go here. stay away at all costs or the cost will be high, i promise u.

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#2 General Comment

whoever he is he's not brain washed

AUTHOR: AgainstNarconon - ()

so i am definitly not the original poster because he has a different email.  but, what i think happened is that in order to get 5000dollars refund from the 30,000 that narconon already has he probably had to make a rebuttal and sign a waiver in order to get a tiny drop of the money back.  Narconon is a complete joke.  it is the largest cult/scam organization in history.  the original poster definitly wrote the truth the first time. i don't think he's brainwashed. i think he's being blackmailed by the most insensitive, ruthless cult in the earth's history. ;-P

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#3 General Comment

hey

AUTHOR: AgainstNarconon - ()

so i am definitly not the original poster because he has a different email.  but, what i think happened is that in order to get 5000dollars refund from the 30,000 that narconon already has he probably had to make a rebuttal and sign a waiver in order to get a tiny drop of the money back.  Narconon is a complete joke.  it is the largest cult/scam organization in history.  the original poster definitly wrote the truth the first time

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#4 General Comment

LRH was an SP

AUTHOR: anon - ()

Dave, I truly hope that you have been able to overcome your addiction. That being said, your renouncing of your original report is concernining.  Please consider the following questions:

What are L. Ron Hubbard's crimes?

What are David Miscavige's crimes?

What are Scientology's crimes?

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#5 Consumer Comment

Definately Brainwashed

AUTHOR: Yula - ()

 I love how in your initial report everything that you stated about Narconon is pretty much spot on correct. I also was a part of Narconon and it was terrible. Everything that you stated, happened to me.

This,ladies and gentlemen-show how brainwashing works! This guy now takes EVERYTHING HE SAID BACK? LOL what did they do? Threaten you if you don't apologize..don't let them get to you man!

 

Narconon is a scam.

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#6 Author of original report

I take it all back.

AUTHOR: Dave Martinez62385 - ()

I'm am truly sorry for everyone that read my report.  When i wrote this i was in an emotional state and was just copying things that i had read from the other reports i found online.  There was no problem at narconon.  The food was terrific, and the atmosphere was very relaxing.  There were certain things that made me frustrated, but they are personal issues and nothing to do with narconon.  They DID help me get off drugs and i'm still clean to this day.

When you are fighting an addiction you get mad at everyone except the person you should be : yourself.

i blamed narconon when i should have been blaming myself.  any problems i had with them was my fault.

Everyone was really nice to me there, and when i started feeling homesick i got a lot of support.  With my personality though, especially after years of drug abuse, i didn't think i needed or wanted the support and felt i just wanted to be left alone.  It was a backwards way of thinking.

This is the only rehab i've been to, so i dont have anything to compare it to, but they care and want people to get better. please excuse my previous report.  sorry, and thank you   -dave

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