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Partyclub -& Icqurimage

  • Submitted: Tue, September 05, 2006
  • Updated: Sat, November 25, 2006

  • Reported By:london Other
Partyclub -& Icqurimage
partyclub.org Internet Europe

Rhodri James Walters - Partyclub - Icqurimage ripoff London Internet

*Author of original report: A very sad old man

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Mini's Guest List : The art of bad business

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partyclub.org is no less than an arranged monthly party for dirty people to pay 150 to have promiscuous and casual sex in, as it says on his website, the many bedrooms, which have a full service available from their hostesses'. These so called hostesses are in fact hookers who charge money for sex and the full bedroom service'. I say hookers with respect because I understand that many of the girls involved are duped into providing sexual favours as described in the following paragraphs.

Rodhri (owner of www.partyclub.org ) has another website www.icqurimage.com, (pronounced I seek your image') which claims to be a directory of independent actors, dancers, models, musicians, personal trainers and personal assistants.

Nothing strange so far until you notice that not one of the actors, dancers, models, musicians, trainers and personal assistants' is Male. It is simply a massive directory of girls, girls and more girls. Only girls can submit their details and photos to the website, but in return they have to supply Rhodri with their home phone number, address and other such personal details.

If you visit the website, it becomes immediately apparent that www.icqurimage.com is international in scope with sections of the website dedicated to major US and European cities such as (but not limited to) Amsterdam, Paris, Las Vegas, New York and London. Closer scrutiny reveals that there is not one single photograph of, say, a male actor, musician or personal trainer. All of the photographs on the website are of girls in varying degrees of undress and mostly in provocative poses. What woman who is interested in a career as a personal trainer or as a personal assistant to a Managing Director of a company, for example, would expect to be employed on the basis of how she looks topless or nude?

While Rhodri makes no money directly from this website, he admitted to me that it provides him with a large portfolio of girls to invite to the events organised by www.partyclub.org (Rhodri of course waives the 150 entry fee for the girls to entice them to attend). He then tells the girls that have registered on www.icqurimage.com they have been entered into a modelling competition; the location and time of which is, conveniently, the same as that for the www.partyclub.org event.

He then tells them that if they enter the modelling competition, this will further their career, no matter which industry they work in. He also maintains that he will make sure that they have a strong chance of winning - he of course says this to each and every one of them.

He further tells them the modelling competition is a lingerie show and provides underwear for all the girls. They must wear this before, during and after the show; all night in fact.

Each girl is then advised that they must do whatever it takes. This includes providing sexual favours for money which, in itself, he claims is the way that most models make it to the top. In his own words every successful woman has slept her way to the top, you must do the same if you want to succeed. He tries to convince them (mostly pretty young girls) that this is the accepted way to a successful modelling career.

A few final points are worth mentioning:

Rhodri introduced himself to me as a Dr.' who had produced his doctoral dissertation while at Harvard University. Since discovering the above article I performed a search of the Harvard University website and could find no record of a Rhodri James Walters ever having attended Harvard. This casts doubts, in my mind at least, as to the validity of his claims or the legitimacy of his use of the term Doctor'.

Interestingly, a recent look at www.partyclub.org reveals that Rhodri is now offering shares in his organisation for 1000. I would strongly advise anyone considering buying shares to think again, based upon my experiences.

Furthermore, in my personal opinion, the parties are a rip-off and of a questionable nature. I would not advise anyone to use services provided by either of Rhodri's two companies - www.partyclub.org & www.icqurimage.com.

Finally I have submitted details to the police in respect to both of these companies and expect Rhodri will get a knock on his door in due course.

United Kingdom

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#1 Author of original report

A very sad old man

AUTHOR: Mini - (United Kingdom)

It is with some amazement that I have learned that Dr Rhodri is continuing with his pointless tirades against myself and my company. However, I shall make one, hopefully final attempt, to set the record straight the difference between myself and Rhodri is that I can prove that what I say is true I have copies of his web-pages taken during the period in question; the content is explicit and the evidence is irrefutable, in respect to all the alleged defamatory comments I have made.

I have great difficulty in picking the key points out of Rhodri's latest rambling rebuttal but will attempt to address those that I can identify in the following paragraphs.

I am perplexed by Rhodri's claim that we hand out flyers outside clubs. While there are some nightclub promoters who do operate in this way, we do not and have never handed out flyers and see no need to. Most of our business comes from word-of-mouth recommendations and through our website. However, there is nothing wrong with it, so what is he point?

Rhodri claimed One ruse he confessed to was persuading potential guests that admission was free before a certain time, make them queue up for some length of time, and then persuade them to pay after they missed the deadline for free entry. What complete lies. It's actually what he suggested he would do with his some of his party club guests.

It appears that Rhodri now seem to take exception to the name of my company, Minisguestlist. I have no idea why this should be because one of the principal services provided by my company is to supply guestlist services to clubbers in London. While we certainly provide other services, including event management, this is one of our core business activities and remains a major source of revenue.

Clearly, Rhodri neither understands the industry nor has he made any effort whatsoever to learn anything about it before exposing his ignorance to the general population in this manner.

With regard to his allegation that I falsely claimed to have a database of 11,168 London-based people who attend A-List nightclubs (not a list of 11,168 A-List people as he incorrectly states), , he actually saw the figure in my office. He knows it was what was stated. while I can no longer remember the exact figure at the time, the fact that my database continues to grow, through subscription, and now stands at nearly 50,000, the figure he quotes seems entirely likely. What on earth was his point here?

Next he criticises me for the fact that out of this database of people, achieved a response rate of less than 0.2%' (only a 0.2% responded) and no-one attended. I would have thought that this was due more to the nature of the product than to the social means of the people in my database. While I can send out advertising to as many people as he wishes, I cannot force the people on my database to attend. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water

Just as matter of interest, all the mail-shots that I do are logged by the software that I use. These logs show both number emails sent and the content; proof of sending is not an issue and Rhodri would be well advised to publicly withdraw his allegations concerning both the size of the database and whether the mail-shot was actually performed. He employed the company to provide a service; a PR mail-shot was sent as per the contract. What more could he reasonably expect?

Rhodri also seems surprised that I said that many probably couldn't afford the 150 entry fee for his parties. Even the most affluent of people would hesitate to pay 150 for something without knowing what they were getting for their money. I know people who gladly pay more than that, per head, to attend charity dinners, etc. but they know in advance what it is that they are paying for. I cannot imagine many people paying 150 for a party' where no entertainment was provided, no music, only a finger-buffet and, oh yes, I was forgetting the girls. Well, maybe there are people who would pay for that but I personally don't know any.

Again, in the same sentence, Rhodri states that 150 would be small change to the people on my database. However, my database consists of people who attend A-List nightclubs. As many will be aware, nightclubs charge premium prices. It is therefore evident that people attending these clubs have a guaranteed minimum disposable income. However, not all are millionaires ready to be fleeced, not matter what Rhodri would prefer.

Rhodri also alleges that I covet his model directory and the Party Club. Nothing could be further from the truth and I consider it sick, in the extreme, that there are people around who exploit others in quite such a manner. I am glad that the Party Club no longer exists; that the company has been disolved - this is one less media for the exploitation of innocent young girls. It dissolved in October 2005 because it was a failure - a 4,000 loss every time he threw a party. It is shameful that he managed to actually sell 13,000 worth of shares. I pity the people who bought those shares.

By the way, the icqurimage website describes itself as a directory of independent actors, dancers, models, musicians, personal trainers and personal assistants; he still hasn't explained why he needs photographs of scantily dressed musicians, personal trainers and personal assistants. We want a explanation. No PA in the world submits a photo in a job application. This is sick.

Having been told originally that his doctoral dissertation was gained at Harvard, we are now told that it was at Oxbridge. Rhodri says, Why would anyone with a PhD from Oxbridge claim to have one from Harvard? Duh! That was my very point.

Rhodri makes it clear from this that he was at either Oxford or Cambridge but doesn't care to specify which. He wonders how I could gain access to the Alumni database from Harvard simply it because it is freely accessible for anyone to search. Similarly, Oxford and Cambridge are also very proud of their Alumni and their databases are also freely searchable. It appears, however, that neither university is very proud of Dr Rhodri because he doesn't appear in the databases at either www.ox.ac.uk for Oxford and www.cam.ac.uk for Cambridge. Search for Rhodri Walters and note the conspicuous absence of results. Another lie.

Having lurched from one untruth to the next, Rhodri has now turned his attention to me. I have never made any bones about the fact that, while qualified, I don't practice law. My other business interests keep me fully occupied and I am certainly not the first person to obtain a degree in a subject that later turned out to be irrelevant to what they did in later life. My degree was actually obtained at the London Guildhall University and I am a lifetime member of the National Association of Paralegals. Rhodri's comments about McDonalds (the burger branch) are as insulting as they are childish. I told him that I once worked for McDonalds when I was 15 years old.

Further, he pours scorn on the fact that I work from home; where does he work, if he works? For me, working from home is necessary because I am the primary carer for my aging and disabled mother (who lives with me, not the other way round). Rhodri's remarks are offensive and hurtful and, since he is fully aware of my situation, were clearly designed to cause maximum distress.

Of all the libellous things that he has said in an effort to besmirch my good name, this is the one thing that shows the levels to which this man will sink in what seems to have become a personal vendetta against me, my family and my company.

Next, let me address the police issue. Next time he has tea with the Assistant Chief Constable, he should tell him exactly what he does for a living. I bet the Assistant Chief Constable wouldn't invite him for tea if he knew the nature of his business activities.

Finally, I welcome a visit from Rhodri's solicitors. He has my home address and has even published it online in his original, baseless, accusations. Should I publish his in the same manner? I don't think so; there are some things that I will not do, no matter what the provocation.

I will not dignify any more of Rhodri's ravings with a response, either now or in the future. The matter is, as far as I am concerned, closed This is a (supposedly) educated 48 year old man who seems to have made it his life's ambition to try to sully the reputation and damage the business prospects of a 27 year old who did nothing more than to fulfil his obligations as part of a business contract.

At the time I was sorry that Rhodri did not achieve the level of response for which he had hoped but the law forbids me from rounding up people at gunpoint and forcing them to attend. I refuse to entertain this entire discussion anymore. Rhodri has embarressed himself enough. It's just getting too childish. Let's see however if Rhodri continues with this. It will be embarrassing for him if he does.

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Mini's Guest List : The art of bad business

AUTHOR: Rhodri - (United Kingdom)

For some reason Mr. --- seems to have continued our exchange in response to my original posting on this site ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=140405&view=printer by publishing a retaliatory report' as another thread. In doing so he has further defamed and misrepresented both myself, the Party Club and Icqurimage Ltd and left little option but to take further punitive action against Minesh(aka Mini) and his narcissistically named Guest List'.

It is not quite clear after Mr. Mini' received over 1,100 GB pounds for his non-existent services or brought over a dozen guests free of charge to a party that cost over 4,000 GBP to host, how exactly this barnacle of wealth feels that he has been ripped off? Perhaps he should be the one refunding the Party Club for his non-existent services?

My original report on this site related to Mr. ---- false claims to have an A-List of 11,168 London socialites and originally made the following offer in his initial approach of the 23rd of December 2004 Please let me know if there is anything that I can do for you. If I can assist you with any of your partying needs then please give me a call, or e-mail and I will be pleased to help you!

As well as organizing your personal guest lists for you and your friends, I can also help with arranging larger parties such as birthdays, anniversaries, and other special events. I will also be pleased to help if you have any corporate events such as work parties, product launches, special occasions etc. For further details please e-mail or call me.'

In response to a massive discount of 80% from 50p per email to 10p, amounting to a not inconsiderable sum of 1,168 pounds, Mr.--- failed to produce any paying guests and achieved a response rate of less than 0.2% which would embarrass the most virulent of spammers.

On the issue of spamming not only did I receive the unsolicited approach from Mr.--- with the explanation Either we have taken your e-mail address recently out in London, or somebody has referred you on to us via e-mail, and we would like to say a big welcome to Minisguestlist.com!

We have added your details on to the VIP invitation listIt is beyond our control if people refer you on to our data base if you don't wish to be. If this happens don't worry, we don't want to send our invitations to people who don't want to receive them.'

At the party in March 2004 Mr.--- attended, he scoured the party for E-mail addresses from almost all who were attendant, regardless of their means or social status. Soon after a lawyer friend wrote in great annoyance assuming that I had given his details to Mr.--- without his approval because he too had received an unsolicited approach to his private Email. Of course I had supplied Mr.--- directly with no mailing lists or email addresses but this does confirm his modus operandi as a spammer.

Further to this, of the twenty or so respondents only five booked of whom three turned up at the party declining to pay because they were with Mini'. Mr.--- in his previous rebuttal accused the social networking organization the Party Club' of misrepresentation and offering sexual services for a fee when in fact the only such misrepresentations came from unauthorized content sent from Mr.--- IP address or Email.

Further misrepresentations were made in his earlier rebuttal when he falsely claimed that models were persuaded that it was a lingerie show' and that I provided underwear for all the girls'. Not only did none of the models wear lingerie, but there was no sexual activity at the party in March of any nature whatsoever.

In his earlier rebuttal Mr.--- claims that the Party Club product in itself was simply entry to a party and nothing more'. What does Mr.Vohra think that a Party Club does exactly other than throw parties?

In his original rebuttal Mr.--- claimed that I had misrepresented myself as an alumnus and PhD from Harvard and that he had proven the fraud by searching the database of the institution. Why would anyone with a PhD from Oxbridge claim to have one from Harvard? How could Mr.--- have searched or even gained access to the Harvard alumnus database? Clearly he must feel social inferiority if he feels he needs to denigrate my social standing and qualifications.

Mr.--- himself claimed to be a housing' lawyer at a leading legal chambers in London, although this seems exceedingly unlikely given his behaviour. In fact he later admitted to having been a graduate of McDonalds (the burger branch). I am unable to track any record of a qualified lawyer conducting his practice in London, although my access to the databases might be incomplete?

So what does this Mr.--- actually do? Other than sending massive volumes of unsolicited email several times a week advertising events at London night clubs (from my observations at his home office he shared with his mother), he persuades young people to hand out fliers for these events and hope to make the capital from the door at the clubs.

One ruse he confessed to was persuading potential guests that admission was free before a certain time, make them queue up for some length of time, and then persuade them to pay after they missed the deadline for free entry. High morals indeed!

Naturally I regret employing Mr.--- services and the use of his 11,000 strong database, although it is interesting to note that the two Party Club events before Mr.--- involvement enjoyed higher attendances of paying guests than the two that Mr.--- services' commissioned for.

At first I believed that the less than three weeks notice given to Mr.--- for the March party may have explained his poor showing and so decided to offer him a contract (as advertised) to supply hostesses, models and guests from his A-list' database at 33% commission (every incentive), largely to determine whether or not his Guest List was genuine or bogus. Given that there was a total no show other than a belated and misrepresentative Email shot, I think this answered my question.

In his original rebuttal Mr.--- states that it was unsurprising that No paying guests attended because firstly, I'm sure not many people can afford the 150 price tag for entry'. Surely this is small change for the people of London Society with whom Mr.--- claims to associate? Mr.--- seems naive about the costs of hiring expensive apartments, providing sushi, champagne, hostesses and other staff.

The Party Club was not a social club run with the expectation of a profit, but naturally for it to be sustainable at up to 5,000 per party some guest contributions might be reasonably expected?

Mr.--- published misrepresentations and breaches of signed contract have cost the Party Club dearly as he will find out to his own cost. Given that he appeared to covet the model directory and Party Club there seems to be some potential explanation for this behaviour.

In his recent retaliatory posting of the 5th September 2006, Mr.--- falsely states that the model directory Icqurimage operates such that Only girls can submit their details and photos to the website, but in return they have to supply Rhodri with their home phone number, address and other such personal details.' Phone numbers are optional and no home address is in fact solicited.

In his recent defamatory posting Mr.--- states Interestingly, a recent look at partyclub.org reveals that Rhodri is now offering shares in his organization for 1000. I would strongly advise anyone considering buying shares to think again, based upon my experiences.' Not only is his espionage, apparently gleaned from an internal discussion, out of date by almost a year (only 13 shares were taken up and the Club decided to dissolve in October 2005), but Mr.--- dirty tricks campaign has clearly continued unabated.

Following his earlier statement, Finally I have submitted details to the police in respect to both of these companies, and expect Rhodri will get a knock on his door in due course.' I went to have tea with the Assistant Chief Constable who informed me that he was aware of no such apparent police report, and that even if Mr.--- tissue of lies were believed that no law would have been contravened. This is to date the only contact with the police concerning this matter that I have received.

Meanwhile my solicitors have been contacted with details of the published defamations, libel, slander, breach of contract

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