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Complaint Review: PMI -Professional Marketing International - Auctions For Income - Lindon Utah

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Hi Everyone,

I hope this report finds you all well. I stumbled upon this website and I am so thankful that I did, well thankful and frightened. Now that I have read some of the feedback that all of you have given on PMI or whatever they want to call themselves these days, I'm sure they are working on a new name and address as I speak. I obviously have had a run in with these sleazy, despicable, scum bags myself and feel like a total fool, and I see that I have a lot of company that probably feels the same way.

I also bought the infamous Auctions for Income Materials, as a means to make some additional money to assist my small disability check. I have been disabled for 5 years and thought that this might be something that my husband and I could manage doing, but I too got suckered in. I purchased my Auctions for Income kit in early August of 2005 and a few months later had a charge appear on my credit card statement for Easy Track Payment Services out of Montreal, whom I did not recognize and had know knowlege of having authorized them to charge me for anything, nor did I receive anything from them.

So I called my credit card company and stated this to them and had to dispute it and it eventually was taken off my card. Then I kept getting these phone calls that I did not answer for months that came up on my caller ID as PMI, and I am on the National Do Not Call Registry. Eventually I answered one of their calls just to get them to stop bothering me, and boy are they slick. A Mr. Dale started smooth talking his way in, by stating that they were a Coaching/Mentoring Co. that works with Dave Espino's students and ended up talking me into arranging an appointment time when my husband would be home to hear their pitch(this was on 2/21/2006).

We reached an agreeable time later that evening, so he called back at the agreed upon time and started laying it on us thick with really high pressure sales techniqes and before I knew it my husband had agreed to this purchase. I couldn't believe it, as he is a seasoned skeptic about anything like this for good reason, this is a prime example of why to be that way. My husband thought that this is what I wanted, and had said yes only to make me happy I guess.

Well they hit us up for $4975.00, it is really funny how the amount varies from person to person isn't it? Well we immediately started talking about this large purchase right away after getting off the phone(the call lasted for about 2 and 1/2 hrs. and he had told me originally it would take 20 minutes when I set the appointment up), and decided that we wanted out of this right now! Thank God that I had asked him what PMI stood for during the phone call and they had told us also where they were located, so after already deciding to cancel this we went on the web and looked them up on the BBB. Boy that was a reality check, it scared both of us to death. We agreed that night that I would call them the next morning and cancel, and thought that wouldn't be a problem because they had told us that we had the right to rescind for up to 3 days after receiving their invoice in the mail(which we didn't receive for over a week later).

I also drafted a letter to rescind to them that very night mailed it overnight mail and certified so that they would have to sign for it(and so we would have proof that they got it(this was 2/22/2006). When I called the next day to rescind I reached a Mr. John Carpenter(whom actually executed the sale the night before after Dale already had us hooked)and he was really nasty and I told him what we had found out about them on the BBB and that we wanted to rescind and he told me that I would have to call this gal named Emily and I did and then she said that the Resolutions Department would have to contact me, which they never did.

Anyway, I thought that I had covered my butt pretty good with the letter and that they wouldn't dare put that charge through after having documentation of my cancellation. Boy was I wrong, I got my statement for March and there it was a charge for the entire amount of $4975.00 charged on 3/6/2006(which means after I called and rescinded and sent a certified letter the next day also, they still went ahead and sent that charge through fraudulently way after the fact). So once again, I called my credit card company and they told me to fill out the form to guess what? dispute this charge as well). I forgot to mention that during the sales pitch phone call from PMI, they came out and admitted that the people in Dave Espino's Infomercial only reap that kind of success by receiving their mentoring services and that everyone in those Infomercials are telling the truth, that they have to, that it's against the law for them to misrepresent their product or services. Isn't that a Hoot!

If this wasn't so d**n distressing and ridiculous, I would laugh. But right now, I don't feel much up for a good belly laugh. I, like the rest of you am utterly distraught with worry. I'm not a lawyer, but I do believe that this constitutes fraud with intent, identity theft, and a whole list of things not to mention the mental anguish that your put through. My credit card Co. also told me to contact the BBB, which I am and to talk to an attorney. So yes, I am up for a class action suit against them and will ban together with the rest of you to do it. Let's put these freakin people out of business, so that they can't harm anyone else. Buyer's beware!!!!!!!!

Also be Afraid, be very Afraid, they will come looking for you, you don't even have to approach them. They will hunt you down in your own home, minding your own business. They only have one thing on their minds, MONEY! and will do anything to get it, even if it is illegal,underhanded, and down right unlawful! I'm afraid of what they will do next with my credit card# with the special 3 digit code on the back, I am truly afraid to get my next statement. Oh by the way, did I mention that I didn't receive any goods or services for this outrageous and enormous charge, not even a phone call from their resolutions dept.,much less a single mentoring session! Bend over and lube up people,your going to need it, they will seek you out and find you.

Jan Kalamazoo, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Slow Down

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 19, 2006

I am a former employee of PMI and as such have no loyalties, bias or ties to the company. My encouragement is to slow down a little bit. If you were as prompt as you say you were, they will resolve the issues. If you cancelled in your first 3 days, they will refund your money. It takes time to do a charge back on a credit card. If you don't believe me, call the number on the back of one of the credit cards you work with and ask them how long it takes to process a charge back. The having not received any goods or services shouldn't be a surprise. You canceled the night you got set up. I am confused as to what you wanted. Did you want to cancel or did you want the coaching sessions?



As for Reid's comments, anyone reading this thread, don't insult your intelligence by putting stock in what he has to say. He has cut and pasted his way onto another complaint. He has complaints against other companies that are not PMI. He has never worked with PMI. If I am wrong Reid let me know. If he had a bad flight on American Airlines, he would tell you not to fly Delta, Southwest, United etc. all because they are in the same business. If one is bad, they must all be bad. As I am sure he will reply to this post, I would ask him to do so without being vulgar. I am sure this will prove to be a challenge for him.



For others that are looking to work with PMI and are doing a little research I will tell you that you will not find a more honest company doing mentoring. Yes, you have to do your part. PMI will not build the business for you. They will teach you how. They will provide you with some tools that can help make things easier. They will not do it FOR you. 9 times out of 10 that is where complaints against PMI come from, people expecting PMI to do it for them. Go into it with the attitude that you are going to work for what you are trying to build. I read success story after success story from people that signed up with PMI in the time I worked there. If you want success stories, PMI has them documented.

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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Slow Down

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 19, 2006

I am a former employee of PMI and as such have no loyalties, bias or ties to the company. My encouragement is to slow down a little bit. If you were as prompt as you say you were, they will resolve the issues. If you cancelled in your first 3 days, they will refund your money. It takes time to do a charge back on a credit card. If you don't believe me, call the number on the back of one of the credit cards you work with and ask them how long it takes to process a charge back. The having not received any goods or services shouldn't be a surprise. You canceled the night you got set up. I am confused as to what you wanted. Did you want to cancel or did you want the coaching sessions?



As for Reid's comments, anyone reading this thread, don't insult your intelligence by putting stock in what he has to say. He has cut and pasted his way onto another complaint. He has complaints against other companies that are not PMI. He has never worked with PMI. If I am wrong Reid let me know. If he had a bad flight on American Airlines, he would tell you not to fly Delta, Southwest, United etc. all because they are in the same business. If one is bad, they must all be bad. As I am sure he will reply to this post, I would ask him to do so without being vulgar. I am sure this will prove to be a challenge for him.



For others that are looking to work with PMI and are doing a little research I will tell you that you will not find a more honest company doing mentoring. Yes, you have to do your part. PMI will not build the business for you. They will teach you how. They will provide you with some tools that can help make things easier. They will not do it FOR you. 9 times out of 10 that is where complaints against PMI come from, people expecting PMI to do it for them. Go into it with the attitude that you are going to work for what you are trying to build. I read success story after success story from people that signed up with PMI in the time I worked there. If you want success stories, PMI has them documented.

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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Slow Down

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 19, 2006

I am a former employee of PMI and as such have no loyalties, bias or ties to the company. My encouragement is to slow down a little bit. If you were as prompt as you say you were, they will resolve the issues. If you cancelled in your first 3 days, they will refund your money. It takes time to do a charge back on a credit card. If you don't believe me, call the number on the back of one of the credit cards you work with and ask them how long it takes to process a charge back. The having not received any goods or services shouldn't be a surprise. You canceled the night you got set up. I am confused as to what you wanted. Did you want to cancel or did you want the coaching sessions?



As for Reid's comments, anyone reading this thread, don't insult your intelligence by putting stock in what he has to say. He has cut and pasted his way onto another complaint. He has complaints against other companies that are not PMI. He has never worked with PMI. If I am wrong Reid let me know. If he had a bad flight on American Airlines, he would tell you not to fly Delta, Southwest, United etc. all because they are in the same business. If one is bad, they must all be bad. As I am sure he will reply to this post, I would ask him to do so without being vulgar. I am sure this will prove to be a challenge for him.



For others that are looking to work with PMI and are doing a little research I will tell you that you will not find a more honest company doing mentoring. Yes, you have to do your part. PMI will not build the business for you. They will teach you how. They will provide you with some tools that can help make things easier. They will not do it FOR you. 9 times out of 10 that is where complaints against PMI come from, people expecting PMI to do it for them. Go into it with the attitude that you are going to work for what you are trying to build. I read success story after success story from people that signed up with PMI in the time I worked there. If you want success stories, PMI has them documented.

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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Let's Here About This Offer Joe! Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

Hey there Jan,



I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.



Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.



JOE: Jan,



We made every effort to make this possible for you and Jeff.



REID: Make what possible?



JOE: We even made an offer to you that you were going to discuss with Jeff (husband)and were supposed to get back in touch with us.



REID: What offer? Why not make this offer public Joe? Why do you insist on having Jan "get back in touch" with your company?



Let's discuss any and all of your so called offers in an open dialog Joe. That's what the rip off report is all about. Stop wasting your time posting rebuttals that have nothing to do with nothing.



JOE: We still have not heard a yes or no from you.



REID: Gee I wonder why this is. Could it possibly be because Jan and her husband have figured out that PMI is nothing but a scam? Why don't you post the location of your business on this board Joe, so that an angry victim can pay you a visit and shoot you in the face?



JOE: We assume this report is a reflection that you would like to reject this offer.



REID: Duhr! You think? Take a fly inbreed. Don't you have people to "mentor?" LOL. LOL. LOL.



JOE: Unfortunately, we are not mind readers.



REID: This is true. You are scam artists.



JOE: You need to contact Shannon and let him know that you are passing on his amazing offer. He would take care of you, if you let him.



REID: Everyone wants to know about this offer Joe. Why should Jan contact Shannon? If this offer is so amazing Joe make it public.



JOE: Jan, you wanted to cancel based on our report with the BBB. While it is unsatisfactory at the time, it shows no unresolved complaints out of only 136.



REID: The BBB is a meaningless organization. The BBB get's funded by collecting membership fees from the very fraudulent businesses they claim to protect the public from.



JOE: I say only, considering we have worked with over 60,000 students in the period of three years.



REID: How many of these 60,000 students have actually found success using your "mentoring" Joe? One? Two maybe? Can you even prove one Joe? Why have you decided to sell others on this marvel concept Joe and not take advantage of PMI's mentoring yourself?



If PMI's "mentoring" is so great Joe, why are you an "employee" of the company instead of using the system yourself?



JOE: You put much stock and value in the BBB report that this site spends so much time tearing down.



REID: You put much stock and value in defending a fraudulent company Joe. Again, why not engage in an open discussion regarding any and all of your so called offers?



JOE: Maybe you should take your own destiny into your own hands and change your life. If you go by these reports or even the BBB's, then you should never fly Delta, never go to Disneyland or never ever worship at a church, synagogue or temple.



REID: This last paragraph is retarded Joe. Delta, Disneyland and most churches I know of are legitimate. PMI is a scam on the other hand. Don't compare your scam to that of legitimate businesses.



JOE: Contact Shannon at your earliest convenience.



REID: Don't do it Jan. Why not have Shannon come forward and discuss this offer in the public eye instead? What's up with the secrecy?



JOE: I am Joe the inbreed....Out!



Until next time take care Jan cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Let's Here About This Offer Joe! Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

Hey there Jan,



I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.



Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.



JOE: Jan,



We made every effort to make this possible for you and Jeff.



REID: Make what possible?



JOE: We even made an offer to you that you were going to discuss with Jeff (husband)and were supposed to get back in touch with us.



REID: What offer? Why not make this offer public Joe? Why do you insist on having Jan "get back in touch" with your company?



Let's discuss any and all of your so called offers in an open dialog Joe. That's what the rip off report is all about. Stop wasting your time posting rebuttals that have nothing to do with nothing.



JOE: We still have not heard a yes or no from you.



REID: Gee I wonder why this is. Could it possibly be because Jan and her husband have figured out that PMI is nothing but a scam? Why don't you post the location of your business on this board Joe, so that an angry victim can pay you a visit and shoot you in the face?



JOE: We assume this report is a reflection that you would like to reject this offer.



REID: Duhr! You think? Take a fly inbreed. Don't you have people to "mentor?" LOL. LOL. LOL.



JOE: Unfortunately, we are not mind readers.



REID: This is true. You are scam artists.



JOE: You need to contact Shannon and let him know that you are passing on his amazing offer. He would take care of you, if you let him.



REID: Everyone wants to know about this offer Joe. Why should Jan contact Shannon? If this offer is so amazing Joe make it public.



JOE: Jan, you wanted to cancel based on our report with the BBB. While it is unsatisfactory at the time, it shows no unresolved complaints out of only 136.



REID: The BBB is a meaningless organization. The BBB get's funded by collecting membership fees from the very fraudulent businesses they claim to protect the public from.



JOE: I say only, considering we have worked with over 60,000 students in the period of three years.



REID: How many of these 60,000 students have actually found success using your "mentoring" Joe? One? Two maybe? Can you even prove one Joe? Why have you decided to sell others on this marvel concept Joe and not take advantage of PMI's mentoring yourself?



If PMI's "mentoring" is so great Joe, why are you an "employee" of the company instead of using the system yourself?



JOE: You put much stock and value in the BBB report that this site spends so much time tearing down.



REID: You put much stock and value in defending a fraudulent company Joe. Again, why not engage in an open discussion regarding any and all of your so called offers?



JOE: Maybe you should take your own destiny into your own hands and change your life. If you go by these reports or even the BBB's, then you should never fly Delta, never go to Disneyland or never ever worship at a church, synagogue or temple.



REID: This last paragraph is retarded Joe. Delta, Disneyland and most churches I know of are legitimate. PMI is a scam on the other hand. Don't compare your scam to that of legitimate businesses.



JOE: Contact Shannon at your earliest convenience.



REID: Don't do it Jan. Why not have Shannon come forward and discuss this offer in the public eye instead? What's up with the secrecy?



JOE: I am Joe the inbreed....Out!



Until next time take care Jan cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Let's Here About This Offer Joe! Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

Hey there Jan,



I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.



Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.



JOE: Jan,



We made every effort to make this possible for you and Jeff.



REID: Make what possible?



JOE: We even made an offer to you that you were going to discuss with Jeff (husband)and were supposed to get back in touch with us.



REID: What offer? Why not make this offer public Joe? Why do you insist on having Jan "get back in touch" with your company?



Let's discuss any and all of your so called offers in an open dialog Joe. That's what the rip off report is all about. Stop wasting your time posting rebuttals that have nothing to do with nothing.



JOE: We still have not heard a yes or no from you.



REID: Gee I wonder why this is. Could it possibly be because Jan and her husband have figured out that PMI is nothing but a scam? Why don't you post the location of your business on this board Joe, so that an angry victim can pay you a visit and shoot you in the face?



JOE: We assume this report is a reflection that you would like to reject this offer.



REID: Duhr! You think? Take a fly inbreed. Don't you have people to "mentor?" LOL. LOL. LOL.



JOE: Unfortunately, we are not mind readers.



REID: This is true. You are scam artists.



JOE: You need to contact Shannon and let him know that you are passing on his amazing offer. He would take care of you, if you let him.



REID: Everyone wants to know about this offer Joe. Why should Jan contact Shannon? If this offer is so amazing Joe make it public.



JOE: Jan, you wanted to cancel based on our report with the BBB. While it is unsatisfactory at the time, it shows no unresolved complaints out of only 136.



REID: The BBB is a meaningless organization. The BBB get's funded by collecting membership fees from the very fraudulent businesses they claim to protect the public from.



JOE: I say only, considering we have worked with over 60,000 students in the period of three years.



REID: How many of these 60,000 students have actually found success using your "mentoring" Joe? One? Two maybe? Can you even prove one Joe? Why have you decided to sell others on this marvel concept Joe and not take advantage of PMI's mentoring yourself?



If PMI's "mentoring" is so great Joe, why are you an "employee" of the company instead of using the system yourself?



JOE: You put much stock and value in the BBB report that this site spends so much time tearing down.



REID: You put much stock and value in defending a fraudulent company Joe. Again, why not engage in an open discussion regarding any and all of your so called offers?



JOE: Maybe you should take your own destiny into your own hands and change your life. If you go by these reports or even the BBB's, then you should never fly Delta, never go to Disneyland or never ever worship at a church, synagogue or temple.



REID: This last paragraph is retarded Joe. Delta, Disneyland and most churches I know of are legitimate. PMI is a scam on the other hand. Don't compare your scam to that of legitimate businesses.



JOE: Contact Shannon at your earliest convenience.



REID: Don't do it Jan. Why not have Shannon come forward and discuss this offer in the public eye instead? What's up with the secrecy?



JOE: I am Joe the inbreed....Out!



Until next time take care Jan cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Let's Here About This Offer Joe! Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 02, 2006

Hey there Jan,



I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.



Don't believe a single word of Joe's. PMI is a fraudulent operation/scam and it's NOT just a matter of opinion.



JOE: Jan,



We made every effort to make this possible for you and Jeff.



REID: Make what possible?



JOE: We even made an offer to you that you were going to discuss with Jeff (husband)and were supposed to get back in touch with us.



REID: What offer? Why not make this offer public Joe? Why do you insist on having Jan "get back in touch" with your company?



Let's discuss any and all of your so called offers in an open dialog Joe. That's what the rip off report is all about. Stop wasting your time posting rebuttals that have nothing to do with nothing.



JOE: We still have not heard a yes or no from you.



REID: Gee I wonder why this is. Could it possibly be because Jan and her husband have figured out that PMI is nothing but a scam? Why don't you post the location of your business on this board Joe, so that an angry victim can pay you a visit and shoot you in the face?



JOE: We assume this report is a reflection that you would like to reject this offer.



REID: Duhr! You think? Take a fly inbreed. Don't you have people to "mentor?" LOL. LOL. LOL.



JOE: Unfortunately, we are not mind readers.



REID: This is true. You are scam artists.



JOE: You need to contact Shannon and let him know that you are passing on his amazing offer. He would take care of you, if you let him.



REID: Everyone wants to know about this offer Joe. Why should Jan contact Shannon? If this offer is so amazing Joe make it public.



JOE: Jan, you wanted to cancel based on our report with the BBB. While it is unsatisfactory at the time, it shows no unresolved complaints out of only 136.



REID: The BBB is a meaningless organization. The BBB get's funded by collecting membership fees from the very fraudulent businesses they claim to protect the public from.



JOE: I say only, considering we have worked with over 60,000 students in the period of three years.



REID: How many of these 60,000 students have actually found success using your "mentoring" Joe? One? Two maybe? Can you even prove one Joe? Why have you decided to sell others on this marvel concept Joe and not take advantage of PMI's mentoring yourself?



If PMI's "mentoring" is so great Joe, why are you an "employee" of the company instead of using the system yourself?



JOE: You put much stock and value in the BBB report that this site spends so much time tearing down.



REID: You put much stock and value in defending a fraudulent company Joe. Again, why not engage in an open discussion regarding any and all of your so called offers?



JOE: Maybe you should take your own destiny into your own hands and change your life. If you go by these reports or even the BBB's, then you should never fly Delta, never go to Disneyland or never ever worship at a church, synagogue or temple.



REID: This last paragraph is retarded Joe. Delta, Disneyland and most churches I know of are legitimate. PMI is a scam on the other hand. Don't compare your scam to that of legitimate businesses.



JOE: Contact Shannon at your earliest convenience.



REID: Don't do it Jan. Why not have Shannon come forward and discuss this offer in the public eye instead? What's up with the secrecy?



JOE: I am Joe the inbreed....Out!



Until next time take care Jan cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

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#2 Consumer Comment

I, too, was suckered in

AUTHOR: Christina - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006

So did you get your money back?



I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life: I am engaged to be married and I did the $3,500 charge without consulting with my fiance.



I pray to God things aren't in jeopardy. I did this because of the dream of staying at home with your children and giving them your full attention and going to play groups and still, possibly, having a FUN part-time job.



I have no idea what came over me but I was suckered in last night. I can't get ahold of anyone to try to rescind in "the 3 days."



I wanted you to know I made this mistake too. This may not be the place to post this but I was wondering what address you sent it to, ATTN:? I need some help, that credit card was for my wedding and honeymoon. This is so serious.



Did you get your money back and where do I start to get mine back and prevent a possible break up with the man who wants to be with me for the rest of our lives? HELP!

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AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 31, 2006

Jan,



We made every effort to make this possible for you and Jeff. We even made an offer to you that you were going to discuss with Jeff (husband)and were supposed to get back in touch with us. We still have not heard a yes or no from you. We assume this report is a reflection that you would like to reject this offer. Unfortunately, we are not mind readers. You need to contact Shannon and let him know that you are passing on his amazing offer. He would take care of you, if you let him.



Jan, you wanted to cancel based on our report with the BBB. While it is unsatisfactory at the time, it shows no unresolved complaints out of only 136. I say only, considering we have worked with over 60,000 students in the period of three years. You put much stock and value in the BBB report that this site spends so much time tearing down. Maybe you should take your own destiny into your own hands and change your life. If you go by these reports or even the BBB's, then you should never fly Delta, never go to Disneyland or never ever worship at a church, synagogue or temple.



Contact Shannon at your earliest convenience.



I am Joe....Out!

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