Complaint Review: Precise Health LLC
Precise Health LLC United Medical Network Inc, 888-781-2343, precisesupplements.com, Joe Langner Another new company name for old scam Deerfield Beach Florida
*General Comment: I am in the same boat
Precise Health LLC is the latest front company for United Medical Network Inc. It is the successor to Focused Health LLC, Joe Langner’s company that scammed me out of $11,995. By my count, it’s about the 13th company Joe has used to scam people out of $12-24,000 since 2008.
Joe is upset with me because I called his settlement offer bogus, and wanted me to print a retraction. Here’s the story… maybe there will be a retraction at the end.
I was contacted by a recruiting company, Advanced National Recruiting. They pre-qualified me, meaning that they asked if I had $12k available to invest. There is no evidence that this recruiting company exists, other than references in other Ripoff Reports relating to United Medical Network.
Joe called next (using the fake last name Lawton), telling me about the +$70 million his venture capitalist owners had invested to develop the patented technology to develop his system that had been test-marketed for the past 2+ years to great success. 18 of the 38 test market distributors were earning over $200k.
He gave me the names of successful distributors to call, Charlotte, St Louis, Cincinnati and Tampa, and Dr. Kys, his consultant.
He showed me the websites of all the great press his company was getting. When I looked at them, the company was listed as Focused Health LLC. Now, the same web articles list Precise Health LLC. Same web address. Focused Health LLC was formed in November 2013. I can’t find any registration of Precise Health LLC as of 3/6/14, but their website was created in December 2013. These “independent” internet articles date back to 2012.
He talked me into sending my $500 deposit via FedEx, and had me write the letter about my qualifications. Then he called to congratulate me on being awarded the territory I wanted, but had to act quickly.
Next week I’m in Florida on a Wednesday, $12k lighter, and listening to a pitch about pastel envelopes and pretty stamps.
I caught the scam the following Monday when I discovered the connection between Focused Health and United Medical Network. This con has been running since 2008.
I called Joe on Tuesday, told him what I had found, and said not to ship his pisskits and to send me my money back. He agreed immediately. I was shocked. Then he said he didn’t have the money. Not so shocked anymore.
He said he would send me a dissolution agreement, and that if I signed it and returned it to him, he would pay me $3k per month for 4 months. I told him that was not acceptable. He said it was the only way he could pay it. He said he would forward me an agreement.
I sent him an email which stated: Joe, Per our conversation this morning at 11:00 am: You have offered to refund my $12,000 investment as follows: $3000.00 to be received by me no later than next Friday, 2/28/14, and $3000.00 per month beginning in March, and to continue until the balance is paid in full. You have agreed not to ship me any materials associated with your program, including urine test kits, brochures, posters, etc .You have agreed to email me your proposed dissolution agreement no later than the close of business tomorrow, which we agreed would be 5:00 pm on 2/19/14. I have not committed to signing your agreement as written, nor have I made any promises whatsoever. If this is not your understanding of our conversation, you should contact me immediately.
Joe agreed via email, and sent me the following settlement agreement, which I refused to sign:
This Settlement Agreement (“Agreement”) is made this ___ day of February, 2014 by and between Focused Health LLC ( “FH”/”Company”) and (REDACTED) (hereafter "Distributor”). The parties agree that the Distributor Agreement between them is null and void. Distributor agrees that he does not have any claim against Focused Health LLC. FH will remit to Distributor the sum of $11,995.00 to be paid as follows: $3,000 to be paid on or before the 28th day of February 2014, and $3,000 to be paid on or before the last day of each month thereafter until fully paid.
Distributor maintains that he shall have no additional claims on Focused Health LLC and any other organization affiliated with Focused Health LLC. Distributor agrees that as of the date of this Agreement and thereafter, he will refrain, directly or indirectly, on his own or through another individual or entity acting on his behalf, at his request or with his authorization or knowledge, orally or in writing, or through any other medium of communication, from making any negative comments and statements to other parties.
The parties further agree that they will not directly or indirectly, on their own or through another individual or entity acting on their behalf, at their request or with their authorization or knowledge, orally or in writing, or through any other medium of communication, release, disseminate, disclose or make known, or cause to be released, disseminated, disclosed, or made known, any of the terms of this Agreement to any other person or entity.
Distributor confirms that FH does not need to send him the initial kits and brochures.
This Agreement constitutes the entire Agreement between the parties and supersedes any previous written and/or oral agreement, warranties, representations, or statements made between the parties relating to the subject matter of this Agreement. No variation of this Agreement either written or typed should be effective unless and until signed on behalf of each party.
END OF AGREEMENT
I sent Joe a revised agreement that removed the confidentiality clauses if he did not make timely payments, and he refused to sign, and pretended he never received. I have since been advised not to sign any agreement.
Joe contacted me and said he was going to send a check for $3k to be in my hands by 2/28. Then he left me a voicemail message on 2/27 saying he wasn’t sure what address to send it to, and that it would be delayed. Then he said he was going to send it for me to receive by 3/3, but I might have to hold it for 10 days until it was good.
I received a check for $3k on Monday 3/3/14 at 5:30pm. I deposited it at 7:30pm. I hope it doesn’t bounce. The check was drawn on a Wells Fargo account, but did not list an office or a phone number. I called the main number, and they refused to confirm that there were enough funds in the account to cover the check.
Joe called on Thursday, and said I should publish a retraction regarding my comment about a bogus settlement offer. I told him I still considered it a bogus offer as he had scammed me out of $12k, and the only thing we had agreed upon was that he owed me $12k. The free loan payment arrangement was his deal, not mine.
So, if you are a potential investor of his, or a victim of his scam, you can decide whether or not my comment calling his settlement offer “bogus” needs to be retracted. I’m still out $9k (if the check clears), plus $4k I spent in starting up and registering my new business venture. Do you think I can trust him to send the $9,000 balance?
You decide…… do I need to retract my “bogus” comment?
Some interesting stuff from our Thursday conversation.
Joe said he couldn’t pay me because all his money was tied up in his new kitchen project. I asked him if he ever paid all the people back from his old kitchen project, Gourmet For Life (another one of his ripoff companies), and he said he wasn’t interested in talking about his history.
We discussed his credibility, and I asked him about all the statements he made to entice me to invest in his company, specifically: the investors, the successful distributors and their income, and the company history, and he said that was water under the bridge.
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