Shady Oak Havanese - Robin Lewis Denied Ownership Of Puppy, 8 Weeks Later Claims Puppy Was Not Hers Shamong New Jersey

But you dang well pissed me off.

I'm reading through these, and see that Donna is an honest, good person.

You, however, are not, twisting words to your own pleasure, using a flat, lying tongue to your own leisure.

At least Leisa apologized when she realized she was wrong, but you took that apology and twisted it to match your hate game.

Just because one of our kittens, a full blown British Shorthair, came home with a Hernia didn't mean we harassed the breeder. We gladly got it repaired, knowing it was perfectly normal. And he's been a loving, sweet cat.

You are a hero in your own mind, a legend to none but your ownself. And I wish you would stop ruining Donna's life and business, because you are truly evil in those actions.

Sincerely, a fellow animal lover.

Laurie stop your slander and your LIES.

Myha is NOT a Shady Oak Havanese, never was- never will be. She is not out of my Breeding and I did not bring her into the world. Just like I didn't sell her or invite Lisa (Leisha) to my house.

This was PROVEN IN COURT so get over it and stop your LIES.

Laurie stop your slander and your LIES.

Myha is NOT a Shady Oak Havanese, never was- never will be. She is not out of my Breeding and I did not bring her into the world. Just like I didn't sell her or invite Lisa (Leisha) to my house.

This was PROVEN IN COURT so get over it and stop your LIES.

Laurie stop your slander and your LIES.

Myha is NOT a Shady Oak Havanese, never was- never will be. She is not out of my Breeding and I did not bring her into the world. Just like I didn't sell her or invite Lisa (Leisha) to my house.

This was PROVEN IN COURT so get over it and stop your LIES.

Leisa,

Thank you for the kind thoughts, I appreciate them more than I can tell you! I cannot thank you enough for your help and support. I am sorry that all of this happened to you, your Aunt and little Myha, as well as Teri and all involved. You were trying to do something nice and it was a very thoughtful gift for your Aunt, it's so terrible that what was supposed to be a happy occasion, ended up bringing more issues than anyone could ever imagine, especially since your Aunt Teri had just lost her dog. None of you deserved this nightmare. Thank goodness Myha is with you and your family, she is a lucky little girl to have such kind, caring and compassionate people taking care of her. I can't imagine how horrible it had to have been watching her go through so much pain and suffering. You have been an incredible friend and you are an incredible person.

Laurie

Lisa, I am truely sorry too, that you bought Myha. At one point in our lives my cousins and sister were all friends and we raised and showed out dogs all together but hanging me out to dry once to often is enough. Anyway that is between us and I have dealt with it.

I did not know what was going on behind my back and for that I am sorry, had I known, you would have never seen Myha as she would have never been here for you to see.

And being Sarcastic towards me is not doing any good. I was concerned about the Health of the pup as I owned two females that were related to her. And another thing I never "treated your puppy for anything" I told you on the phone that we use Revolution for all our dogs. Revolution prevents any skin problems and for fleas and ticks. Why do you twist things around? I never saw Myha in person.

And I am sorry my pups didn't get homes because of my cousin's pups. So I guess that is a horrible thing to say, I guess you believe my pups shouldn't get a family of their own.

And I am sorry that I thought you were Lisa from Ct. After all you never explained anything and then you said Oh my name is not on the contract, my aunt's name is, Teri La forge. that is when I knew something was wrong because there was no contract with that name.

And I am sorry that even after you knew the TRUTH, it was not my puppy and not my breeding, You take it upon yourself to join in the witch-hunt against me. WHY?
Clearly coming after me was wrong, I had no business dealings with you and you still saw it fit to harass and slander me and my family and still do.

And stupid things you complain about, the phone for one, Robin took my phone to SC---SO HOW COULD I ANSWER THE d**n THING !!!!!! The house phone was listed all you had to do was dial 411. And my Mercedes in the front yard, my house being remodeled, a grey parrot (don't own a grey parrot) all this writing to consumer affairs about junk that had nothing to do with the pup.

And I am sorry that all of you consider parasites a death sentence for a puppy, when all the VETS involved didn't. That you and your "friends" constanly harp that the pups were sick. LISTEN CAREFULLY- ONLY A LICENSED VETERINARY CAN SAY A PUP IS SICK AND NONE OF THE VET'S INVOLVED FOUND ANY OF THESE PUPS SICK WITHIN THE 14 DAYS ALLOWED BY LAW. AND THAT IS THE TRUTH !

APOLOGIES ABOUND !!!

My name is Leisa, my dogs name is Myha. Let's set the record straight. Short History.
I answered Donna's ad, went to her home on July 10th and purchased what I thought was one of her advertised puppies while she was away.

After numerous health issues and contacting Consumer Affairs, I was FINALLY told on Sept 12th (8 weeks later) that this puppy was sold behind Donna's back without her permission.
So for the record Donna DID NOT sell me this puppy directly. Her sister "Robin Lewis" sold me this puppy from Donna's home. When the AKC papers finally arrived via Consumer Affairs the owner now is listed as "Robin Anderson". So here is my apology for all concerned and for all involved in this vicious circle.

I APOLOGIZE for coming to your home & for thinking I was purchasing one of YOUR advertised puppies.

I APOLOGIZE for leaving $950.00 in cash that I am sure you didn't get t o share in.

I APOLOGIZE for trying so desperately to find an alternate number for you when your business phone was left unanswered for weeks.

I APOLOGIZE for being so optimistic when you finally returned my call.

I APOLOGIZE for thinking that if I supplied you with Myha's birthdate & the new owners name REPEATEDLY that you would now which of your 3 puppies I was referring too.

I APOLOGIZE for reading your response to Consumer Affairs on Nov 6th 2007 that states. "When I left for Florida I only had 3 puppies left to find homes for and when I came back 2 were still there".

I APOLOGIZE for the confusion you had on the ONE puppy that was sold.

I APOLOGIZE for not making it clear to you, when you returned my call, that you were calling a PA number with a (215) exchange & that I WAS NOT a woman named Lisa from Conn who purchased your one puppy while you were gone.

I APOLOGIZE for your second letter to consumer affairs on Dec 10th 2007 that states. "I had spent a small fortune on newspaper ads to sell my puppies and here my pups were still here and not sold".

I APOLOGIZE for calling YOU and discussing Veterinary findings when it WASN'T your dog.

I truly APOLOGIZE for having you discuss all the treatments you gave this puppy while in your care.

I APOLOGIZE for not REMINDING YOU that the puppy you were speaking of was NOT YOUR PUPPY.

I APOLOGIZE for not finding out until SEPT 12th 2007 that the puppy I purchased on July 10th 2007 was not yours.(Had I known sooner, I promise you I would have let YOU know)

I APOLOGIZE for thinking you were avoiding my calls when you stated " Robin lost your phone". I'm glad to see you have since FOUND IT.

I APOLOGIZE for thinking deceit was involved the day I received the AKC papers and "Robin Anderson" was now named as the breeder.

I APOLOGIZE for thinking ill feelings when I noticed on the AKC papers that you and your "Cousin Robin Anderson" share the same P.O. Box.

I APOLOGIZE for thinking how crazy it is that someone has so many business names listed with the BBB and on various puppy ads throughout the internet.

I APOLOGIZE for being subpoenaed by the State of New Jersey to testify against you on Myha's behalf..

I APOLOGIZE that the AKC papers with "Robin Anderson's" name DID NOT hold up in court.

I APOLOGIZE that the evidence being presented by the SPCA that day was so overwhelming that you were the only case on the docket.

I APOLOGIZE that you were convicted on 3 counts out of 8.

I APOLOGIZE that your time was wasted on Myha's behalf.

I APOLOGIZE for thinking that you would want the responsible party to be held accountable for what happened to me IN YOUR HOME while you were away.

I APOLOGIZE that this puppy was sold under the "GUISE" of "your fabulous reputation as a Top Notch Breeder." per Robin Lewis"

I APOLOGIZE for thinking that "RED MANGE" is COMPLETELY different from a "MOLT".

I APOLOGIZE for giving you any CREDENCE what so ever when it came to the health of my puppy.

I APOLOGIZE to all that STILL believe that multiple worms, dual ear infections, Coccidia, Giardia, Umbilical Hernia and Demodetic Mange that (within a 2 week time frame) are COMMON PUPPY AILMENTS.

I APOLOGIZE for not being a lawyer, a veterinarian, a breeder of Jack Russells or a detective.

I APOLOGIZE for still believing that most people are honest by nature.

I APOLOGIZE to all consumers whom have ever had their puppy described as a "POUND OF FLESH".

Most of all I APOLOGIZE that Myha was not your dog. She is the PICK of the litter, even with her potentially lifelong Mange flair ups. Myha is a great puppy and will continue to follow our lead. whether it's playing in the yard or taking highly toxic medications for her mange. She trusts us completely and doesn't know what harm these meds can due in the long wrong.

I APOLOGIZE that you won't be able to share in her future health issues.

I APOLOGIZE to my Aunt Teri for trying to put a smile on your face when I handed to you what I thought was a healthy puppy. I Know how much you suffered over the loss of your poodle after 16 years with him. Happy Birthday Aunt Teri and I am TRULY sorry for the emotional nightmare.

I APOLOGIZE to my best friend Teri in NJ for feeling the need to defend Myha and myself. I apologize for you having to experience the trauma of waiting for test results on Myha time & time again. I also apologize for you being falsely accused of being a breeder of Jack Russells.

I APOLOGIZE to Laurie, Barbara & Jude for encouraging them to stand up for what they believe is right. I also apologize for the unnecessary heartache that you all had to go through. and for all you continue to go through.

I APOLOGIZE to all the other Consumers whom have ever purchased a sick puppy and given that famous EXCUSES that it is just stress from moving to a new home, change of water, change of food, change of air.

I APOLOGIZE to all the other Dog owners who's "Unfit For Purchase Certificates" could not be written until the full manifestation of the illness appeared. after the 14 Day Period.

I APOLOGIZE to the consumers that feel the 14day rule still applies when the sales agreement is not legal/ valid to begin with.

I APOLOGIZE to the NJSPCA (Theresa) for contacting you about what some believe are COMMON AILMENTS. You Know the Coccidia & Giardia & Mange. I'm truly Sorry for all the horrible things that were said about you. Thank you for doing right by the animals and the heartbroken owners. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ! please we need more people like you.

I APOLOGIZE to Libby from NJCAPSA for having to add to your already full caseload on this subject and for reading all the horrible lies that were written about you and your organization. You do wonderful work and should be commended for your continued efforts in shutting down puppy mills and irresponsible back yard breeders. The average consumer has no idea as to the valuable work you do on a daily basis. THANK YOU for making a difference.

LAURIE this apology is for you. I wish that God has in his plan to Grace you with many many children. I know you would be a wonderfully compassionate mother with the ability to teach them right from wrong. they will grow up understanding that animals are a gift. That they are part of the family and not machines to reproduce for profit. I am very confident in knowing that your children will not perpetuate more puppy mills or backyard breeding programs. It's a shame that all mothers can't teach their children the same. I'm sorry for the vicious things that were written about you. I wish everyone could get the opportunity to meet you. they would see how truly wonderful you are.

So all in all I APOLOGIZE to anyone whom may have been affected by me not taking the time to look through a CRYSTAL BALL before I answered an ad in the Southern New Jersey Newspaper:
Selling HAZANESE (sic) Pups (2) AKC/ACA non-shed, sm, smart, sturdy. $650.00-$950.00 Medford Area. (845)XXX-X277.

Sincerely Leisa in P.a. (not Conn.)

There is no item on Myha's first bill for any skin treatment or med. She got boosters and she WAS NOT DECLARED UNFIT BY THE VET. When will you people get it in your head. 14 days, 14 days. NO UNFIT=no vet bill paid. The seller is not obligated. final, end of story.

Myha was born on 4-13-07 & purchased 7-10-07...I think I can add...isn't that 3 months of age ??? Also she was diagnosed with Demodex mites on 7-17-07 not 3 months later!

Leisa wanted that information clarified, thank you!

Laurie

You write this big article. Now do you understand it. It says it breaks out after 3 moths old. Now listen carefully, this pup was younger than three months so how would any breeder know it would break out with this? You are so obsesed you are now arguing about Myha, which you didn't see this pup till what Dec. if you saw her at all and now you claim to know everything.

This pup didn't have this according to the vet report. and according to the brother which I just sold to Canada. He never had it. If she did, the litter would have had it. Unless she caught mites after she was sold , which is more likely because on the first few vet visits no skin problems were pointed out. She was blowing coat as most pups due and alpesha was a guess on their part but that wasn't it either. the diagnosis of mites, guardia came about 2-3 months after they owned the pup. So it could have came from another source, since they live in Pa. maybe they brought the pup near puppy mill dogs or a contaminated environment. Not everything is the Breeders Fault.

"Red Mange" the Disease
When the immune system is compromised for any reason such as when a dog is a juvenile, short haired, malnourished or in poor condition the mites can become numerous in hair follicles.

The "dry form" of the disease (75% of cases) usually occurs in pups 3 to 9 months of age. It starts as scaly, rough areas on the skin with slight hair loss. It centers on the fore quarters with lesions first on the head and neck and then on the forelimbs. The early lesions resemble a "rug burn" hence the name "red mange". Occasionally the skin can become hyperpigmented and turn black - "black mange".

The "pustular form" (10 to 20% of cases) occurs as the condition advances. Opportunistic bacterea such as Staphlococcus or Streptococcus species colonize the affected areas and the condition spreads over large portions of the body. At this stage of the disease, the skin becomes greasy, red, swollen and scabby and has a characteristic "mousy odor". Itchiness from the secondary bacterial infection occurs. The poor dog appears "mangy and ugly. Lymph nodes enlarge due to the systemic spread of the mites and bacteria. From there, the mites and bacteria can enter the blood stream and affect other organs. If allowed to progress, the CONDITION MAY BECOME FATAL due to the overwhelming sepsis.

Many times, young animals must be treated four to six times until the immune system develops with age. Often, entire litters are infected. THESE DAMS SHOULD NOT BE BRED AS THE CONDITION IS HERITABLE.

Treatment involves clipping the hair from the affected areas and then shampooing the skin with a good quality degreasing shampoo. The skin is then rinsed with clear water and towel dried. A dip solution containing amitraz (Tactik or Mitoban) is then sponged over the entire dog and allowed to air dry. A word of caution: Amitraz can be TOXIC so protective gloves, eye and face protection should be worn by the person applying the dip. This process is repeated every two weeks until skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This may take from 4 to 8 treatments. If bacterial infections are present, appropriate antibiotics are also administered. It is very important to not stop treatment too soon. We suggest that the dips be continued on two separate occasions two weeks apart AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This ensures a complete kill of all stages of the demodex mite (egg-larva-nymph-adult).

Other treatments include oral Ivomec which is an injectible cattle wormer. In mild cases this may be curative in itself or may be included in combination with amitraz dips to improve efficacy.

Treatment is expensive and frustrating
In my own clinical experience, we have been quite successful in curing our affected patients. Since amitraz is toxic we do not dispense the product. We do all the dips "in hospital" after retreiving a skin scraping. All we can do is continue with the scrapings and dips every two weeks until we get scrapings that contain all dead mites. We dip two more times after scrapings are negative. This can run into quite a bit of expense for owners. What happens if the condition reoccurs 6 weeks later? We get screamed at and we go on with the dips until the condition is once again under control. We have seen it reoccur 3 times. The client hated us! But... Today he has his dog and wouldn't give the world for him. To treat Demodectic mange you have to be prepared to "go for broke" and often times it can take you very close to it. We hope breeders who produce puppies with this condition take note and STOP BREEDING these animals. It can be heartbreaking if you discover your new puppy has the "Red Mange".

Last Words About Demodectic Mange...
Treat for four weeks AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. Expect reoccurances. Don't breed dogs that have had Demodectic Mange as puppies - you are passing this trait on to other UNSUSPECTING owners. The disease usually is curable if you remain patient.

Information found on Woodside Pet Information: Veterinary advice center (web site)

This is so horrible, such suffering to an innocent little puppy, it's disgusting really!!

"Red Mange" the Disease
When the immune system is compromised for any reason such as when a dog is a juvenile, short haired, malnourished or in poor condition the mites can become numerous in hair follicles.

The "dry form" of the disease (75% of cases) usually occurs in pups 3 to 9 months of age. It starts as scaly, rough areas on the skin with slight hair loss. It centers on the fore quarters with lesions first on the head and neck and then on the forelimbs. The early lesions resemble a "rug burn" hence the name "red mange". Occasionally the skin can become hyperpigmented and turn black - "black mange".

The "pustular form" (10 to 20% of cases) occurs as the condition advances. Opportunistic bacterea such as Staphlococcus or Streptococcus species colonize the affected areas and the condition spreads over large portions of the body. At this stage of the disease, the skin becomes greasy, red, swollen and scabby and has a characteristic "mousy odor". Itchiness from the secondary bacterial infection occurs. The poor dog appears "mangy and ugly. Lymph nodes enlarge due to the systemic spread of the mites and bacteria. From there, the mites and bacteria can enter the blood stream and affect other organs. If allowed to progress, the CONDITION MAY BECOME FATAL due to the overwhelming sepsis.

Many times, young animals must be treated four to six times until the immune system develops with age. Often, entire litters are infected. THESE DAMS SHOULD NOT BE BRED AS THE CONDITION IS HERITABLE.

Treatment involves clipping the hair from the affected areas and then shampooing the skin with a good quality degreasing shampoo. The skin is then rinsed with clear water and towel dried. A dip solution containing amitraz (Tactik or Mitoban) is then sponged over the entire dog and allowed to air dry. A word of caution: Amitraz can be TOXIC so protective gloves, eye and face protection should be worn by the person applying the dip. This process is repeated every two weeks until skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This may take from 4 to 8 treatments. If bacterial infections are present, appropriate antibiotics are also administered. It is very important to not stop treatment too soon. We suggest that the dips be continued on two separate occasions two weeks apart AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This ensures a complete kill of all stages of the demodex mite (egg-larva-nymph-adult).

Other treatments include oral Ivomec which is an injectible cattle wormer. In mild cases this may be curative in itself or may be included in combination with amitraz dips to improve efficacy.

Treatment is expensive and frustrating
In my own clinical experience, we have been quite successful in curing our affected patients. Since amitraz is toxic we do not dispense the product. We do all the dips "in hospital" after retreiving a skin scraping. All we can do is continue with the scrapings and dips every two weeks until we get scrapings that contain all dead mites. We dip two more times after scrapings are negative. This can run into quite a bit of expense for owners. What happens if the condition reoccurs 6 weeks later? We get screamed at and we go on with the dips until the condition is once again under control. We have seen it reoccur 3 times. The client hated us! But... Today he has his dog and wouldn't give the world for him. To treat Demodectic mange you have to be prepared to "go for broke" and often times it can take you very close to it. We hope breeders who produce puppies with this condition take note and STOP BREEDING these animals. It can be heartbreaking if you discover your new puppy has the "Red Mange".

Last Words About Demodectic Mange...
Treat for four weeks AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. Expect reoccurances. Don't breed dogs that have had Demodectic Mange as puppies - you are passing this trait on to other UNSUSPECTING owners. The disease usually is curable if you remain patient.

Information found on Woodside Pet Information: Veterinary advice center (web site)

This is so horrible, such suffering to an innocent little puppy, it's disgusting really!!

"Red Mange" the Disease
When the immune system is compromised for any reason such as when a dog is a juvenile, short haired, malnourished or in poor condition the mites can become numerous in hair follicles.

The "dry form" of the disease (75% of cases) usually occurs in pups 3 to 9 months of age. It starts as scaly, rough areas on the skin with slight hair loss. It centers on the fore quarters with lesions first on the head and neck and then on the forelimbs. The early lesions resemble a "rug burn" hence the name "red mange". Occasionally the skin can become hyperpigmented and turn black - "black mange".

The "pustular form" (10 to 20% of cases) occurs as the condition advances. Opportunistic bacterea such as Staphlococcus or Streptococcus species colonize the affected areas and the condition spreads over large portions of the body. At this stage of the disease, the skin becomes greasy, red, swollen and scabby and has a characteristic "mousy odor". Itchiness from the secondary bacterial infection occurs. The poor dog appears "mangy and ugly. Lymph nodes enlarge due to the systemic spread of the mites and bacteria. From there, the mites and bacteria can enter the blood stream and affect other organs. If allowed to progress, the CONDITION MAY BECOME FATAL due to the overwhelming sepsis.

Many times, young animals must be treated four to six times until the immune system develops with age. Often, entire litters are infected. THESE DAMS SHOULD NOT BE BRED AS THE CONDITION IS HERITABLE.

Treatment involves clipping the hair from the affected areas and then shampooing the skin with a good quality degreasing shampoo. The skin is then rinsed with clear water and towel dried. A dip solution containing amitraz (Tactik or Mitoban) is then sponged over the entire dog and allowed to air dry. A word of caution: Amitraz can be TOXIC so protective gloves, eye and face protection should be worn by the person applying the dip. This process is repeated every two weeks until skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This may take from 4 to 8 treatments. If bacterial infections are present, appropriate antibiotics are also administered. It is very important to not stop treatment too soon. We suggest that the dips be continued on two separate occasions two weeks apart AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This ensures a complete kill of all stages of the demodex mite (egg-larva-nymph-adult).

Other treatments include oral Ivomec which is an injectible cattle wormer. In mild cases this may be curative in itself or may be included in combination with amitraz dips to improve efficacy.

Treatment is expensive and frustrating
In my own clinical experience, we have been quite successful in curing our affected patients. Since amitraz is toxic we do not dispense the product. We do all the dips "in hospital" after retreiving a skin scraping. All we can do is continue with the scrapings and dips every two weeks until we get scrapings that contain all dead mites. We dip two more times after scrapings are negative. This can run into quite a bit of expense for owners. What happens if the condition reoccurs 6 weeks later? We get screamed at and we go on with the dips until the condition is once again under control. We have seen it reoccur 3 times. The client hated us! But... Today he has his dog and wouldn't give the world for him. To treat Demodectic mange you have to be prepared to "go for broke" and often times it can take you very close to it. We hope breeders who produce puppies with this condition take note and STOP BREEDING these animals. It can be heartbreaking if you discover your new puppy has the "Red Mange".

Last Words About Demodectic Mange...
Treat for four weeks AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. Expect reoccurances. Don't breed dogs that have had Demodectic Mange as puppies - you are passing this trait on to other UNSUSPECTING owners. The disease usually is curable if you remain patient.

Information found on Woodside Pet Information: Veterinary advice center (web site)

This is so horrible, such suffering to an innocent little puppy, it's disgusting really!!

"Red Mange" the Disease
When the immune system is compromised for any reason such as when a dog is a juvenile, short haired, malnourished or in poor condition the mites can become numerous in hair follicles.

The "dry form" of the disease (75% of cases) usually occurs in pups 3 to 9 months of age. It starts as scaly, rough areas on the skin with slight hair loss. It centers on the fore quarters with lesions first on the head and neck and then on the forelimbs. The early lesions resemble a "rug burn" hence the name "red mange". Occasionally the skin can become hyperpigmented and turn black - "black mange".

The "pustular form" (10 to 20% of cases) occurs as the condition advances. Opportunistic bacterea such as Staphlococcus or Streptococcus species colonize the affected areas and the condition spreads over large portions of the body. At this stage of the disease, the skin becomes greasy, red, swollen and scabby and has a characteristic "mousy odor". Itchiness from the secondary bacterial infection occurs. The poor dog appears "mangy and ugly. Lymph nodes enlarge due to the systemic spread of the mites and bacteria. From there, the mites and bacteria can enter the blood stream and affect other organs. If allowed to progress, the CONDITION MAY BECOME FATAL due to the overwhelming sepsis.

Many times, young animals must be treated four to six times until the immune system develops with age. Often, entire litters are infected. THESE DAMS SHOULD NOT BE BRED AS THE CONDITION IS HERITABLE.

Treatment involves clipping the hair from the affected areas and then shampooing the skin with a good quality degreasing shampoo. The skin is then rinsed with clear water and towel dried. A dip solution containing amitraz (Tactik or Mitoban) is then sponged over the entire dog and allowed to air dry. A word of caution: Amitraz can be TOXIC so protective gloves, eye and face protection should be worn by the person applying the dip. This process is repeated every two weeks until skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This may take from 4 to 8 treatments. If bacterial infections are present, appropriate antibiotics are also administered. It is very important to not stop treatment too soon. We suggest that the dips be continued on two separate occasions two weeks apart AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. This ensures a complete kill of all stages of the demodex mite (egg-larva-nymph-adult).

Other treatments include oral Ivomec which is an injectible cattle wormer. In mild cases this may be curative in itself or may be included in combination with amitraz dips to improve efficacy.

Treatment is expensive and frustrating
In my own clinical experience, we have been quite successful in curing our affected patients. Since amitraz is toxic we do not dispense the product. We do all the dips "in hospital" after retreiving a skin scraping. All we can do is continue with the scrapings and dips every two weeks until we get scrapings that contain all dead mites. We dip two more times after scrapings are negative. This can run into quite a bit of expense for owners. What happens if the condition reoccurs 6 weeks later? We get screamed at and we go on with the dips until the condition is once again under control. We have seen it reoccur 3 times. The client hated us! But... Today he has his dog and wouldn't give the world for him. To treat Demodectic mange you have to be prepared to "go for broke" and often times it can take you very close to it. We hope breeders who produce puppies with this condition take note and STOP BREEDING these animals. It can be heartbreaking if you discover your new puppy has the "Red Mange".

Last Words About Demodectic Mange...
Treat for four weeks AFTER skin scrapings reveal all dead mites. Expect reoccurances. Don't breed dogs that have had Demodectic Mange as puppies - you are passing this trait on to other UNSUSPECTING owners. The disease usually is curable if you remain patient.

Information found on Woodside Pet Information: Veterinary advice center (web site)

This is so horrible, such suffering to an innocent little puppy, it's disgusting really!!

Laurie, why don't you answer the questions asked?

As far as Myha, the first vet didn't seem all that concerned considering no UNFIT was issued. Most of the vet bills were run up under the direction of SPCA agent Cooper. Wonder why that was, she was telling them what test to run and more than likely telling them what she wanted those test to say.

This was not my breeding nor did I sell this pup. I did however just placed this pup's brother in a SHOW home in Canada. So if this pup had DEMO or mange it certainly couldn't have come from the litter because he was beautiful. And pups that have mange DO NOT grow their hair back that fast if at all. So if Myha is half as nice as her brother they got a good pup. And I am not sticking up for my cousin.

The two woman that bought MYHA used to breed Jack Russels so if they thought something was amiss they should have passed, its what I would have done.

They also knew I did not sell them the dog and when they got the papers they knew I didn't breed the dog, so WHY come after me? Why slander Me? The dog is a year now and perfectly alright so why keep on complaining.

Not sure if this posted the first time, so, I am trying again! This is for you Myha!!
The SOS will not be forgotten, ever!!

I will no longer respond to you on this report. You have polluted this one as well as mine with your outrageous accusations, false statements, personal attacks and ridiculous excuses. We have told the truth, we have nothing to hide! Our character and integrity are intact without question and will stay that way!!

May I suggest you address the issue at hand..this is not about my experience with you and we do not need to read your nonsense about me on here, too! Try explaining this one away, too..we're waiting with extremely low expectations.

I am sorry, Teri, Leisa and Myha..that Donna Roberts has tried to cause a distraction from the facts, as usual!

This is about Myha, she deserves recognition, she suffered horribly and thank goodness she is now with her wonderful family and friends. So, please don't type my name, don't address me...address this issue, try to wish this away, too, it won't work either.

Laura what would you call them they are PUPPIES, You bought a PUP not a monkey. The Parasite is a parasite nothing more, You wouldn't what to LIE to your adoring fans now would you?

No abuse occured by me or my family. No pup was sick, CALL THE VETS FOR PROOF their numbers are listed. Ask Laurie when she had to spoon feed the pup? Ask Laurie why did the pup gained weight if he was so, so, so sick?

Call The SPCA and ask how many other breeders got tickets for parasites? Ask them why did they tresspass on my property without a warrant. Her answer in Court was "I had no Probable Cause so I couldn't get a Warrant" SO LETS HARASS AND TAKE WAY MS. ROBERTS' RIGHTS.

TRANSLATION- SPCA DOES WHAT EVER IT WANTS AND ANSWERS TO NO ONE AND THE COURTS LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. THEY ABUSE THEIR POSITION AND POWER OF THE JOB TO GO AFTER THE LITTLE GUY BUT NEVER WILL TACKLE SOMEONE WITH MONEY THAT CAN SQUASH THEM LIKE A BUG. Hey what about Bill R. bet you would never pull this on him or any of the petshops.

More than just "a pup", you even refer to "the pups" in the next line...more than just a parasite, more than Animal Cruelty, as if all of that is not bad enough!!!!!

See previous replies for detailed information on Consumer Affairs violations, etc..etc...etc..!!!

Thanks!

More than just "a pup", you even refer to "the pups" in the next line...more than just a parasite, more than Animal Cruelty, as if all of that is not bad enough!!!!!

See previous replies for detailed information on Consumer Affairs violations, etc..etc...etc..!!!

Thanks!

More than just "a pup", you even refer to "the pups" in the next line...more than just a parasite, more than Animal Cruelty, as if all of that is not bad enough!!!!!

See previous replies for detailed information on Consumer Affairs violations, etc..etc...etc..!!!

Thanks!

NJ Havanese Breeder/Donna Roberts Havanese puppies were sick/Shady Oak Havanese

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!!

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, sent us AKC papers with the 'wrong' sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit providing bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law.

I think enough has been explained, Ms. Roberts will obviously never comprehend what is going on here.

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts and no concern or compassion for the sick puppies.

Perhaps you and others should verse yourself on the laws before you lay the blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I did not think anything else needed to be said, and I still reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!


We do not need 'back up', the facts have been stated! You continue to contradict yourself, do you read what you write? What the heck are you talking about? Wait, please don't answer, thanks!! Don't even attempt to make any suggestions about what you want to be done, unless and until you accept your responsibilities and stop disregarding the law.

Yes, the Veterinarians do know the truth. The Veterinarians issued the Unfit for Purchase certificates!! We all have Unfits..we followed proper procedures. The only thing you seemed "rushed" about was taking our money, as you barely answered our questions and seemed to want to talk about everything except the puppy. I am asking you again to stop the personal attacks, seems to me and everyone else that you are the one attacking me.

Once again, no concern for the puppies, as usual...that speaks volumes!!!! Thanks!

NJ Havanese Breeder/Donna Roberts Havanese puppies were sick/Shady Oak Havanese

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!!

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, sent us AKC papers with the 'wrong' sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit providing bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law.

I think enough has been explained, Ms. Roberts will obviously never comprehend what is going on here.

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts and no concern or compassion for the sick puppies.

Perhaps you and others should verse yourself on the laws before you lay the blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I did not think anything else needed to be said, and I still reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!


We do not need 'back up', the facts have been stated! You continue to contradict yourself, do you read what you write? What the heck are you talking about? Wait, please don't answer, thanks!! Don't even attempt to make any suggestions about what you want to be done, unless and until you accept your responsibilities and stop disregarding the law.

Yes, the Veterinarians do know the truth. The Veterinarians issued the Unfit for Purchase certificates!! We all have Unfits..we followed proper procedures. The only thing you seemed "rushed" about was taking our money, as you barely answered our questions and seemed to want to talk about everything except the puppy. I am asking you again to stop the personal attacks, seems to me and everyone else that you are the one attacking me.

Once again, no concern for the puppies, as usual...that speaks volumes!!!! Thanks!

You are the one who is WRONG Laurie, you are the one who is claiming you have been HURT and MAIMED all the while you have been malicious and enjoying it greatly like you did in court, laughing and carrying on. Yeah your little HATE CLUB succeeded in costing me money but you will never succeed with your quest to turn people against me, in fact alot of people have contacted me to see what is the truth and just like this weekend I sold two pups to wonderful families that really didn't have anything nice to say about you. They promised to post, I told them to wait till after their vet visits so that they could report on the health of their new puppies.

You are the one with all the feel sorry for me routines, I have not denied anything, yes found Guilty for selling a pup with a parasite, that is the truth, no Cruelity was involved. But You like the way it sounds, so terrible but when people read it and then they find out its about a parasite, that the pups got booster shots, that the pups were not found UNFIT, that the pups never spent a day in the hospital, Laurie, it really makes you look like a FOOL.

And whoever Kathreen is GOOD GOING GIRL and THANK YOU.

No thank you, that's ridiculous!! Contractor, hmmm, that sounds familiar, too!

I have complete, accurate and factual documentation, you can say whatever you wish, we all know the truth.

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!! Selling puppies with a contagious and infectious disease!!

Sold us and others very sick puppies with multiple parasites, ear infections, mange, lice and umbilical hernias, among other things.

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, also, sent us and others, the AKC papers with the 'wrong' sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted to that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit to providing the bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law...as well as other violations of NJ Consumer Law. (See previous reports for more information)

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts,not to mention not an ounce of compassion or concern for the sick puppies. Perhaps Ms. Roberts and others should verse themselves on the laws before laying blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I don't think anything else needs to be said, and I reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!

Laurie feel free to email me I will be happy to give you my personal phone number. If talking to me isn't good enough I would be happy to meet with you. You can even have me or any of my family members hooked up to a lie detector test. You will see what I say is 100% TRUE. I have NOTHING to hide. I don't even know Donna Roberts or any of the other names. NEVER heard of them until the other day while I was on here looking for a contractor that scammed my husband and I. I figured i look to see what was on here as far as dog breeders go. I can also assure you this is NOT the only reply that I have made as there was several dog breeders/pet stores I commented on. Honestly I defended all the consumers not the breeders or pet stores. But what you write about some of your facts just are not all true.

My email is (((ROR REDACTED))) and if you check it out further it will say I had this account now 6 plus years and NO aliases.


CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!!

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, sent us AKC papers with the "wrong" sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would not notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted to that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit to providing the bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law.

I think enough has been explained, Ms. Roberts will obviously never comprehend what is going on here. It seems you can't help yourself and you continue to use aliases, it must be a hard habit to break, I guess. It's obvious who wrote the previous reply. Donna, you can't even help yourself, can you?

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts. Perhaps you and others should verse yourself on the laws before you lay the blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I don't think anything else needs to be said, and I reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!

This report is Teri's, I don't know why you insist on dragging me into this, as well!! Perhaps, you should address this report and stop bashing me! Thanks!

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!!

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, sent us AKC papers with the "wrong" sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would not notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted to that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit to providing the bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law.

I think enough has been explained, Ms. Roberts will obviously never comprehend what is going on here. It seems you can't help yourself and you continue to use aliases, it must be a hard habit to break, I guess. It's obvious who wrote the previous reply. Donna, you can't even help yourself, can you?

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts. Perhaps you and others should verse yourself on the laws before you lay the blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I don't think anything else needs to be said, and I reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!

This report is Teri's, I don't know why you insist on dragging me into this, as well!! Perhaps, you should address this report and stop bashing me! Thanks!

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 2007 (Judge rejected consideration of most of the nonsense you tried to submit or speak of because, it was ridiculous)!!

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: Part of Consumers Affairs findings are included in these reports.
Did not supply proper documentation at time of sale, sent us AKC papers with the "wrong" sire/dam, either that or she didn't realize we would not notice the discrepancy. Ms. Roberts admitted to that, as well, there was no getting around it, that's the only reason she DID admit to providing the bogus papers. Remains in violation, she will not reimburse the medical bills, as required by law.

I think enough has been explained, Ms. Roberts will obviously never comprehend what is going on here. It seems you can't help yourself and you continue to use aliases, it must be a hard habit to break, I guess. It's obvious who wrote the previous reply. Donna, you can't even help yourself, can you?

Shows lack of common decency not to mention ignorance to the facts. Perhaps you and others should verse yourself on the laws before you lay the blame on everyone else. It's always someone else's fault it seems, how can that be?

We have complete, accurate and factual documentation.

I will not respond to nonsense and ridiculous accusations, stay focused and on point, or is the truth to hard to admit for you?

I don't think anything else needs to be said, and I reject your nonsense and irrelevancy!

This report is Teri's, I don't know why you insist on dragging me into this, as well!! Perhaps, you should address this report and stop bashing me! Thanks!

I really got a kick out of reading this, you people act like children.

Laurie why did your vet vaccinate your puppy if he was SO sick? Didn't he do a stool sample at that first visit 10 days after the purchase? That would have shown the puppy had parasites.

If your puppy was SO sick why didn't you take him to the ER the 1st or 2nd after your purchase? I would have NEVER waited 10 days.

Just because your treating your dog like a REAL baby doesn't mean every dog has to live that way. Actually dogs that live OUTSIDE in packs are healthier and HAPPY because they don't have the stress of being mauld by humans. TRUST me if your in a room with dogs and Buster had to choose you or the dogs it's going with the dogs. Does he jump in your arms when other dogs come around or does he pull on his harness/leash to go for them? I'll bet we can ALL answer that.


If this breeder has been breeding 30-40 years and has a dozen or so complaints that's not bad. Go check out National breeders hundreds of complaints or even nextday pets.

If most of these puppies are from ONE litter maybe it was just a bad breeding. That does happen at times. The Mother may have been caring the parasites and passed them on. Donna may have treated them but the meds out here DO NOT KILL the parasites.

As far as the law I didn't even know about the NEW law until I came upon this. I contacted consumers for the new so called packet. We only know what we have on hand. My copy is 10 years old and NO where does it say we have to give you a copy. We are to just have the Know your rights sign posted, which we do. We all know there is a law but if it changes how are we to know. Maybe the entire state should be sent a copy of EVERY law as it changes. We are entitled to that after all we ALL pay taxes.

Also it IS 100% legal to vaccinate/worm your pets in the state of NJ EXCEPT rabies. You can go to Tractor supply and purchase dog/cat/horse vaccines and wormers even STRONG wormers. They also sell meds. I called 10 vets today and they all say the same YOU DO NOT need a supervising vet to vaccinate your OWN dogs/puppies. What you DO need a supervising for is to see that all the dogs are in good health and that the vaccine records you keep are up to date. That is if you HAVE a kennel license. In some towns you do NOT need a kennel license to breed dogs or have a kennel.

As far as a health record we only have to supply a shot/worming record and a health certificate showing the puppy was examined. As a breeder we do not have X-ray vision and connot see internal problems or parasites sitting around waiting to come out after they are moved. As far as baer and other testing it is NOT mandatory. We almost always do it but NEVER give that information out as that is for OUR records NOT yours.

I don't believe there is ANY intentional cruelty to any of these puppies. If treatment was given than it was given nobody can help what happened.

If your dog is better as you ALL claim and WONDERFUL stop B****EN and move on. If the breeder offered to pay for the medicines for the parasites you should have been thankful as alot of breeders give NOTHING.

Donna Roberts: Convicted of Animal Cruelty Dec. 21, 2007
Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law: See details in previous reports!

Think again!! I am fine, thanks, by the way!! You, however, apparently have some issues, it's a bit unsettling at this point!

Laurie are you Happy? Do you feel good?

Wonderful, enjoy my puppy and make sure he never ever gets a parasite, flea, tick, heartworms, worms, etc. I wouldn't want you to get a ticket for Animal Cruelty. And when you look into those beautiful eyes know he is loved by the person who brought him into this world through carefull breeding and steadfast care.

Donna Roberts/Shady Oak Havanese:

Convicted of Animal Cruelty, Dec. 21, 2007, Shamong NJ

Failed to follow NJ Consumer Law as per NJ Dept. of Consumer Affairs

Information can be found within these two reports!

Thank you for your support!

Laurie this whole thing will never be settled because it is about the money. I don't know how many people told you the pup had a parasite that was not a threat to his health (even your Dr. Horn) but you want the conflict and the attention otherwise you would have not gone to the extreme to call everyone who would listen to you. You must have a boring life. Did it ever dawn on you that all the other people who bought pups from me are HAPPY with their pups and are not Money Hungrey? That if their pup had a parasite or got loose stools from stress being moved that they understand that things like this happen.

You need to go to a doctor or something. Your obsessive behavior is to much. Get some help!!

Who the heck are you to tell me how to take care of my puppy? It is more than obvious by your Conviction, that you had some issues caring for these puppies. Don't try to assume you know what was going on, you weren't here, you didn't see how sick Buster was..and you didn't bother to ask at any time if he was ok!!

Not that it's any of your business and certainly not because you care, but,
I held him because he wanted to sit with me..he laid in my arms like a little baby and would fall asleep. I know how to take care of dogs, you're the last person I would take advice from, believe me.

Just get over yourself and stop the nonsense. Everyone knows the truth, even you know the truth, you just won't admit it for some reason.

If you had showed an ounce of compassion and settled this a long time ago, this would have been much easier. If you had even tried to be nice, I can almost guarantee you we would have worked it out in July. But, you deny the facts and continue to make false statements.

Barbara had problems logging on, she is working out those issues now. I posted that with her permission and for her..she wrote it!

All of you, Laurie, Teri and Lisa need to go back to your vets' and talk to them. Ask them WHY they didn't find your pups UNFIT for SALE on their first visit within the 14 days. I can tell you again and again, IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT SICK.
This Myha pup wasn't sick either just as Laurie's pup wasn't sick They all got boosters from the vet and that is proof they were not sick.

Myha was NOT MY PUPPY. I did not breed this puppy nor did I sell this pup. And as far as anyone actions or what they said to anyone on the phone is not in my control if any of it is true in the first place.

Laurie the DRAMA QUEEN of Burlington County, if you held Buster through his tummy ache you did more damage than good. If you let the dog walk around he would have worked the gas out much sooner. What you need to tell the public about Buster's tummy ache is that it occured 16 days after you had him in your house, he did not have it when he left my house. And the saga of Laurie's savior moments continues. And patting each other on the back for slandering me, good move, don't think that is not going unnoticed.

Oh and talk about deceit, Teri and Lisa live in Pa. not NJ so why are they claiming they live in NJ? They are also former breeders of Jack Russell Terriers. This little club which is fueled by the Hate of Laurie Pallante needs to watch their allegations. I don't care if you want to tell the TRUTH but your slander of me is far from the truth.

I just have a comment about demodex mange. I bought a female corgi from a breeder, who also does rescue work for the breed. I was aware that she has demodex mange, and that I might have to treat her for this condition for the rest off her life. I bought her about 2 years ago. She had an outbreak when I brought her home in the fall, and I was able to get her skin under control after about a month. Through the winter, she had no problems-and then had another outbreak in the spring. After 2 months she was symptom and mite free:) She hasn't had another problem since-after about a year.

My point in realying this story is that all circumstances are different, and it is possible to treat this condition. I don't want people to be scared off from a deserving dog, because they think this is an uncontrollable disease that will need daily treatment for the rest of their lives........

Obviously, the breeder I got her from was very upfront and I knew what I was geting into. She might have another relapse, and if she does we will handle it. Maybe I have been lucky, but I thought the story was worth relaying if it makes someone consider adopting a dog with this condition. In my experience, the minor inconvenience has been more than outweighed by the delightful dog I have!

After days of me calling Donna's 845 number to no avail, her Sister finally called me back on July 9th, she told me she was at Donna's house taking care of DONNA'S dogs. She asked me "what's the problem?" I explained it to her and she said.."give him cottage cheese to settle his stomach." Also, she said "maybe, a bug bit him and made him sick." I have owned a few dogs in my time, this was much more than she was acknowleding, in fact, it seemed so strange that she showed no concern, whatsoever, basically, dismissing the illness (and me ) as nothing.

She also asked me "you actually like those hairy little mutts?" What does that tell you? It seems to me she certainly wasn't talking about the dogs as if they were her dogs. She said she had a different breed of dog and didn't know much about Havanese!! Oh boy!!

I already had a feeling something was seriously wrong since Donna was nowhere to be found..and now after these comments from her Sister, well, my heart sank. How in the world did this happen, well, the experiences are being shared as horrifying as they may be, it all leads back to the same person.

I am so sorry that Myha had to endure such pain and suffering, it breaks my heart all over again. I am glad she is with such a wonderful family. This has been a true rescue, for all of our puppies.

My heart goes out to Leisa, as well, I am so thankful that things are better now. No one deserved this but, at least we can share our pain, imagine the poor little puppies unable to ask for help...just looking at us as if to say "help me feel better", so tired of being sick, not allowed to be normal puppies. I held Buster night after night for hours on end, because when he laid down he would cry from the pain in his stomach. This just shouldn't have happened, it's an outrage and Donna should be held responsible for Myha, too...after all her Sister did tell me on July 9, she was taking care of Donna's dogs..and you went and picked up Myha on July 10. Seems crystal clear to me!!

Thank you, Teri for Myha's story, it is greatly appreciated! You are absolutely correct, where is the justice?

In all my years of breeding dogs I have never seen a puppy go from being bald from demodepdic mange to looking like a poster child of the breed standard. Demodeptic mange NEVER NEVER goes away can be controlled, but it would be a LIFETIME treatment with outbreaks through out the dogs ENTIRE life. I have seen puppies blow there puppy coat and come in with a beautiful luxurus coat. This breed as well as others will go through as we always call it the teenage gangley/pimple stage as a puppy. Once outgrown this stage they are PERFECT. I see this a lot in this breed and different breeds in the south and Hawaii. Call some breeders in the south and send them your pictures get other opinions on your demodeptic mange.
As far as parasites & hernias that is almost always common in puppies

On the date you bought this puppy I was in Florida, that is a fact. I did have 3 older pups that needed homes so yes I told my sister if anyone wanted to come see them it would be alright, they were all over the age of 16 weeks.

Unknown to me my cousin brought up a litter of pups from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. They were smaller and younger than mine. I didn't find this out until you had called and I put two and two together that you were not talking about one of my puppies.

I confronted my sister and she addmitted that she sold the pups for our cousin.
I was furious and threw her a*s off my property, so you see she didn't disappear. I had a falling out with my cousin over her sister's crap with another dog and the fact her sister, Dee stole two of my adult dogs about a year and half ago.

You keep telling everyone that is one of my pups but right on the AKC papers is the breeder's name and it's not mine. A friend is going to try to post a copy of the paperwork on this site so everyone can see the name on your AKC papers for your dog

Also in fairness this pup was not declared UNFIT FOR PURCHASE either within the 14 day time frame. It wasn't until 2-3 months later that a vet wrote an UNFIT at the request of the SPCA. You had at that point joined the witch-hunt and jumped on the Pallante bandwagon of HATE Against me.

At least you didn't lie to the Judge I do have to thank you for that like the other person did who bought a puppy off of Dee Woods.

I am sorry but like I wrote to you if something wasn't right you should have walked out, I would have and I have done so many times when looking for a pup.

About 4 weeks ago someone who bought a brother to your dog returned him, they were moving back to Australia and didn't want to put him through the 6 month quarantine period. He was just sold to a show home in Canada, He was that nice.
he too went through what I call the MOLT, but most breeders would say BLOW COAT. All of the Florida line does this, but I told you the coat would grow back, it always does.

I am glad that the pup is better and I am sure she is beautiful. As far as my sister and cousins, I will not be talking to them anytime soon, they all can rot.

I just wanted to clarify that Robin Lewis was acting agent for Donna. In other words she had Donna's permission to sell these puppies. It was not until @8 weeks later after Consumer Affairs got involved that Donna denied ownership of this puppy claiming this particular puppy was not part of her litter. (Even after sending out AKC papers)
And now Robin Lewis has disappeared. Where is the Justice ????