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Complaint Review: Sunset Ford Peoria - Peoria Arizona

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  • Sunset Ford Peoria 9130 W Bell Road Peoria, Arizona United States of America

Sunset Ford Peoria, AZ ENGAGES IN WILLFUL NEGLIGENT FALSE ADVERTISING CLAIMS /cars.com 2007 Honda Civic EX - $5,552.00; cars.com 2006 Mazda Mazda6 s - $7,226.00 Peoria Arizona

*UPDATE Employee: Sunset Ford is a reputable Dealer.

*Consumer Comment: Not Amazing!

*Consumer Comment: Amazing

*Consumer Comment: rer

*Consumer Comment: You sound intelligent...

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I did an online search at cars.com for used vehicles under $4,000.00. My search results returned a 2007 Honda Civic Ex listed for $5,552.00 and a 2006 Mazda Mazda6 s listed for $7,226.00.

There was a link to e-mail the dealer in response to the ad which I did. I received an initial confirmation from support@cars.com confirming my specified request for that price, then I recieved confirmation from Charles Moore at the dealership that my request was being processed. Then another e-mail for each stating that the Honda was available and the price is $18,999.00 also the Mazda was available and there was no different price quoted.

Today 11/18/2007 I went to the dealer located in Peoria with both advertisements in hand and asked if the cars were available. The Mazda was there so I asked the salesman if they honored their advertised ads from specifically cars.com. He said that they did, and I told him I had an ad for the Mazda we were looking at for $7,226.00 he said we could go talk to the sales manager Bill.

Bill looked over the ads and said, "The Honda has been sold ,and the Mazda is available but I cannot sell it for that price. He( Charles Moore) must have been smoking crack when he listed this price."

I asked if they could do anything to compensate me for the error for something else similar. Another salesman came over and basically stated it was an error on about 15 of their cars and they had already received calls on the error. The girl that was responsible for these errors no longer works there. (He gestured to Bill the seat at the end of the workstation where she used to sit.) Then told me it was an advertising error and they are not responsiblecars.com is and they are protected by the Federal Trade Comission since they pay cars.com to advertise there vehicles.

I then stated at the end of each cars.com message there is a disclaimer stating they are not responsible for the accuracy the seller is and Sunset Ford is listed as the seller.

He then stated they are not responsible again. I asked how they could claim in an e-mail message from the internet sales manager that Sunst Ford's belief in the internet sales department is that buying a vehicle at Sunset Ford should be a simple integrity based, hasslw free process. They are committed to providing consumers with all the information and services necessary to achieve that goal. Also they realize that i have many options available in today's market and he would personallly along with Sunset Ford work diligently to provide me with a truly unique buying experience.

I asked him how they could claim integrety yet not stand behind their advertised claims.I also asked him if any of those prospective buyers documented there findings or printed the ad.

I acknowledged his statement that they were protected by the mFederal Trade Commission; and I stated I was protected under the Consumer Protection Act. I had 2 ads and I had not been made aware of any changes they had implemented to correct this discrepency. I had my cell phone in camcorder mode in my purse and I told them I had recorded the conversation so I had something to back up my claim and left.

I was mocked on the way and told they would not be able to help. Which was the main reason of recording the dislect pertaining to my findings.

I may be learning as I go along but I knew that if my case were to make it to a courtroom I will have the evidence to substantiate my findings and I made those whose voices I recorded aware that our conversation had been recorded and what my intention was behind the use of this information.

I also just realized that the company I work for has a good working relationship with fleet sales at another Ford dealership in Arizona. We recently requested more vehicles and were allowed to take possesion of the vehicles before finalization of the paperwork and loan agreement. So since the temporary tags have expired and we have no proof of vehicle ownership we cannot renew the registration and iur Ford Fleet Sales Representative cannot request additional tag extensions since having practiced unethecal and non integral sales practices.

I do not wish to hurt this fleet sales representative or my company working reltionship with Ford. I would just like Sunset Ford to honor it's advertisement and lack of excercising approprate procedures once they became aware of the discrepency.

Danielle Phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.

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#5 UPDATE Employee

Sunset Ford is a reputable Dealer.

AUTHOR: Bernie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 15, 2008

To whom it may concern:
Sunset Ford is a reputable Dealer. We have been in business for over 17 years. We pride ourselves on the ability to build our business through repeat and referral business. Unfortunately, mistakes do happen. We do try to catch them in time and rectify them. It seems that in this situation, it was too late.

The used car business is pretty simple. We try to buy used vehicles in relationship to wholesale values, recondition them, and sell them in relationship to retail values. Most customers negotiate the retail price. We meet somewhere in the middle. The customer gets a good deal, and the dealership makes a fair profit.

This particular vehicle was priced wrong by cars.com. Anyone with any knowledge of current values could tell this was an honest mistake.

After 17 years of business, it looks like only one report has made it to this page.

Please feel free to contact me at Sunset Ford with any concerns as to the way we conduct business.

Sincerely,

Bernie Wahl
General Manager
623-977-8888

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#4 Consumer Comment

Not Amazing!

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Now it is easy to see why Ford lost 12.7 BILLION DOLLARS in 2006. Imagine a pile of cash that consists of ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

Now, imagine 12,700 piles of cash, each consisting of ONE MILLION DOLLARS! That's 12.7 Billion Dollars! Do I need to go any further? Stay updated at the Toyota page of this site for SLUDGEFEST 2008!

Happy Thanksgiving!

P.S. If you own a Toyota, you might want to read the AP Online Article, SUIT: Defect Reports Altered Toyota Plant! It came out today. It's about FAULTY SEATBELTS & FAULTY BRAKING SYSTEMS. Everyone should read it and see for yourself. If you have friends and loved ones who have a TOYOTA, they should be alerted! Too bad Brittany of Angleton, TX wasn't alerted. You can 'Google' the two words ENGINE SLUDGE and read her complaint on 6-16-2007 about how her 2006 Corolla's seatbelts did not deploy! It's right there!! Just read it!! Air-bag failed too!! Poor Brittany, I hope she's O.K.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Amazing

AUTHOR: Patrick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 19, 2007

Isn' it amazing how people can spot misprints or errors. I worked for a dealership for 12 years as finance mgr and I also did the news paper ad. It never failed if a car was advertised wrong (my fault or the newspapers) there was always that one fool that would always want to try to hold you to that price. And its been proven many times in court that misprints and errors do not justify the customer getting the car for a misprinted price. If that were the case when I left the car business I would have put a new corvette in the paper for $8000.00 and had a friend buy it for me at that price, but in the real world it just does'nt happen.

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AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 19, 2007

Maybe car dealerships should actually HONOR their advertised prices instead of belittling customers. That would be a switch!

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You sound intelligent...

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 19, 2007

You sound like a smart person, Danielle, which leads me to believe you knew perfectly well it was an error of some sort. That, or the car in question had fallen off a building at some point.

Even dealership scum like us can make a mistake. You were well aware that something was amiss, and instead of asking the VERY simple question of, "The price in this ad seems awfully low, are you sure it isn't a mistake?" you took it upon yourself to hold up your print out of the ad like some burning bush calling down the villany of all dealerships.

I put forth that you knew perfectly well something was wrong with the ad or the car, and decided to attempt to 'get one over' on the dealer by playing weekend attorney with advertising law.

Your report here is nothing more than saber rattling. You could have saved yourself all this aggrivation by simply asking an intelligent question before driving to the store. You figured, maybe, just maybe, they'd cave to your wishes and honor the price. They didn't, and now you want your 'revenge'. I predict many ulcers in your future if this is how you go through life.

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