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Complaint Review: Trinity Broadcasting Network - Santa Ana California

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This report should be obvious to most people by now.

TBN is in the business of using the Bible to EXTORT MONEY. They use Malachi 3:10 to make people afraid that GOD will curse them if they don't give.

I was dumb enough to fall for it.

I'd rather bear the shame than the pain so I'd like to
do as much as possible to get them back if it's only
with this simple report of their chicanery. There is plenty of evidence to see that these people are liars.

A simple search on Benny Hinn will reveal the false prophecies that he's delivered. Unfortunately, I'm fairly sure that there is no way to stop these people from taking over the entire planet but I won't go down without at least griping about these misguided money
hungry religionists.

Truly UNBELIEVABLE.

The scariest thing is that I think President Bush actually believes these people.
Where can I go to escape this insane asylum they call America.

Truly NUTS!

BYE

Kary
Minco, Oklahoma
U.S.A.

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#24 Consumer Comment

There is one thiing for certain...

AUTHOR: spc3rd - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, October 31, 2010

Amidst the many postings here on the ROR site about televangelists and their alleged (or substantiated) improprieties/misdeeds, there is one thing of which you CAN be certain.  Namely, the Words of the Lord shall not pass away.


It is plainly written in the Holy Scriptures, "many shall come in My name...many shall be deceived." 


I have no doubt there are quite a few "ministers of the Gospel" out there who are wolves in sheep's clothing.  Just look at what happened not long ago to the founder and former president of Feed The Children, Larry Jones.


The Scriptures also plainly state, "there is nothing hidden which shall not be brought into the Light."  These "predators" may not see mans' justice, but they will...like every person...see the judgement of the Lord, one day.


There are many worthwhile charities/causes out there, such as, local shelters for the homeless...many of which are right in a person's own community.  It is a simple matter to do a little checking before making a donation.  Given the current economic conditions in this country, you don't have to look very far to find someone in need.  You might just find such a person living next door to you, for example...who's losing their home to foreclosure because they've lost their job. 

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#23 Consumer Comment

How Could Anyone Be Conned By These People? Pathetic

AUTHOR: Helene - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, September 18, 2010

I can understand someone being duped by Televangelists once because some people have to learn the hard way.

But look at the photo of these pathetic people who look like they need psychiatric help and a complete makeover.

I know they are Paul and Jan Crouch and they have made millions, maybe even, billions of dollars with their TBN scam network selling broadcasting time to all kinds of ministers and even a couple of messianic Jewish guys to show how liberal they are...

Even so, I have to ask how many Chinese peasants, horse tails and shaggy dogs were killed to make all of this fake hair that these two burned-out husks are wearing in this publicity photo?

He looks like he is barely recovered from an all night gay orgy at the Bathhouse and could barely put his hair on straight. He looks like one of those middle aged lounge swinger types trying to live hip and large bar side at a Vegas lounge lizard place in the days of disco dressing, gold chains and leisure suits.

She, I guess it's a woman under all of that fake hair and troweled on makeup over a sandpaper complection, looks like a Drag Queen or a Bourbon Street stripper from the 1950s or a call house madam. She might as well be wearing a burqua from Afganistan or any of those other -stans. What is she trying to hide? So sad, so very,very sad.

It would be pathetic, except these people have conned a lot of money from ordinary Americans. So there is method in their madness, I know .

What is wrong with the people in our country that subsidize this weird lifestyle?

Still, Who would want to give money to THIS?

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#22 Consumer Comment

TBN IS NOT JEWISH!! NEITHER ARE "MESSIANIC": CONGREGATIONS. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CON JOB

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, September 18, 2010
I AM A JEW.

I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED AND OFFENDED BY THE STATEMENT THAT TBN, PAUL AND JAN CROUCH, BENNY HINN, JESSE DUPLANTIS AND ANY OF THE CON MEN ON THAT HIDEOUS INFOMERCIAL GARBAGE SPEWING PROPAGANDA SEWER HAS ANY AFFILIATION WHATSOEVER WITH JUDAISM!

EVEN A KHAZAR "JEW" KNOWS BETTER THAN TO BELIEVE THE LIES AND THE STORIES THAT DUPLANTIS TELLS ---FACE TO FACE CONVERSATIONS HE HAS WITH GOD AND GOD ASKS HIS OPINIONS AND ADVICE ON HOW TO MAKE THE WORLD?

HOW MUCH LSD HAS THIS MAN TAKEN?

NOT EVEN MOSES HIMSELF WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT GOD FACE TO FACE!

NOT EVEN YOUR RELIGION'S FOUNDER, JESUS, WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT GOD FACE TO FACE AND PAUL AND THE REST CLAIMED THAT HE ( JESUS AKA YESHUA OR JOSHUA BAR YOUSIF) WAS 'THE SON OF GOD', A DELIBERATELY BAD TRANSLATION ACTUALLY BUT THAT IS FOR ANOTHER TIME.

ALLEGED EVANGELISTS HAVE BEEN EGO TRIPPING SINCE THE TIME OF SHAUL, THE YESHIVA DROP OUT WHO WANTED TO BECOME BIGGER AND BETTER USING THE NAME AND ALLEGED TEACHINGS OF JESUS ( WHOM HE NEVER MET, INCIDENTALLY, EXCEPT IN THE SORT OF "DREAM" MOST TELEVANGELISTS CLAIM TO HAVE HAD) AND HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO PAUL( SO THE JEWS WHO KNEW HIM WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM? LOTS OF CON MEN HAVE DONE THE SAME.)

IN THE CASE OF PAUL, HE INADVERTENTLY DID A GOOD THING BECAUSE HE DID ENABLE THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS --ONE OF THE MOST BRILLIANT RABBIS WHO EVER WALKED THE PLANET AND SIMPLIFIED THE 613 MIZVOT SO ANYONE COULD UNDERSTAND THEM -- TO BE PUBLICIZED. AND CHRISTIANS CAN SEE PAST HIM FOR THE FACILITATOR THAT HE WAS. HE WAS JUST THE GUY WHO HELPED BUILD YOUR FAITH. AND OVER ALL, IT IS A GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL FAITH FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES.

AND DUPLANTIS IS JUST SOME SMALL TIME OUT OF LOUISIANA WHO WENT BIG TIME CONNING ILL-INFORMED PEOPLE WITH THESE OUTRAGEOUS LIES...OH YEAH. HE ALSO PAYS BIG BUCKS TO BE BIG TIME ON TBN, A NETWORK FULL OF DUPLICITOUS LIARS, GREEDY, ARROGANT HUMAN SCUM --- ALWAYS SCHEMING, ALWAYS PLOTTING THEIR NEXT SOURCE OF CASH -- ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND NEW MARKETS TO SELL THEIR FALSE DOCTRINE AND NEW LIES TO TELL THAT WILL BRING IN THE CASH.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ON TO THEM BY NOW.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE   FINALLY GETTING WISE TO THESE WRETCHED THIEVES AND LIARS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS A CHRISTIAN WHO WARNED OTHER CHRISTIANS TO BEWARE OF HE WHO COMES TO STEAL YOUR SOUL. THE PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT MEANT HA=SATAN OR "THE DEVIL." THEY MEANT ANYONE WHO WOULD CAUSE YOU TO BELIEVE WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART AND THEN DESTROY YOUR BELIEF WHEN YOU BECOME AWARE OF THE EVIL MOTIVE BEHIND THEIR MESSAGE, THE BEAUTIFUL LIES THEY TOLD, THE PRETENSE OF REALLY CARING ABOUT YOU AND BEING YOUR FRIEND AND SPIRITUAL COMPANION AND FRIEND THROUGH LIFE WHEN ALL THEY WANTED TO DO WAS STEAL MONEY AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY WOULD GET FROM YOU.

DECEPTION IS THE STOCK IN TRADE OF THE CON MAN.

I LOOKED AT THESE GARISH BUFFOONS ON THE TV AT CHRISTIAN FRIENDS' HOMES AND MY HEART WENT OUT TO THE POOR PEOPLE WHO WERE DESPERATLY WANTING MEANING IN THEIR LIVES AND THINKING THAT THESE SLICKSTERS, THESE LIARS, THESE MARGINALLY DELUSIONAL AND PSYCHOTIC, MENTALLY ILL BABBLERS WERE DOING ANYTHING BUT THEIR OWN EGO TRIP! DISGUSTING!

AND SOUL STEALING FOR SURE.

THEY MAKE OUTLANDISH PROMISES THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE! THEY ARE NOT GOD, ALTHOUGH THEY WANT YOU TO THINK SO. THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN THE FAKE FORTUNE TELLERS AND ALCHEMIST AND MAGICIANS AND OTHER TRICKSTERS WHO HAVE EXPLOITED PEOPLE'S IGNORANCE AND GULLIBILITY FROM CAVE MAN DAYS, FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

I BELIEVE YOUR JESUS SAID THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE POOR WITH YOU ALWAYS. THAT IS BECAUSE THE CON MEN WILL STEAL ALL THEIR MONEY, I KNOW THAT IS NOT WHAT JESUS MEANT BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.

THEY CLAIM TO TALK TO GOD. YOU CAN PRAY TOO, YOURSELF, JUST LIKE THEY CAN PRAY, ANY HUMAN BEING CAN PRAY. NOBODY CAN PRAY FOR YOU LIKE YOU YOURSELF CAN PRAY! DO YOU REALLY THINK THOSE TELEVANGELISTS CAN KNOW OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE THINGS YOU WANT TO PRAY ABOUT BETTER THAN YOU YOURSELF. THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY AND TRASH YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS.

I HAVE A STORY ABOUT THE POOR JEW WHO WANTED TO PRAY TO GOD AND HE THOUGHT HE WAS TOO IGNORANT BECAUSE HE COULD NOT READ AND WRITE HEBREW AND HE HAD NO MONEY TO PAY. HE FINALLY LOOKED UP AT GOD WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES AND LOOKED UP TO HEAVEN AND SAID,"GOD, I AM JUST A POOR JEW, I DO NOT SPEAK VERY WELL AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ AND WRITE,AND I CAN NOT PRAY IN HEBREW, YOUR LANGUAGE BUT YOU KNOW THE WORDS AND YOU KNOW THE LETTERS AND YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL THE WORDS OF MY PRAYER. PLEASE HEAR ME AND PLEASE HELP ME."  IT WAS SAID THAT OF ALL THE PRAYERS GOD HEARD THAT DAY, THAT WAS THE PRAYER THAT MOST TOUCHED HIS SOUL AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT HE WAS FASTEST TO ANSWER.

DIDN'T NEED SOMEONE TO TAKE HIS MONEY TO PRAY OR PRETEND TO PRAY FOR HIM. HE WENT HIMSELF. FOR FREE.

YOU ARE BETTER OFF TAKING YOUR PRAYER AND GOING TO ISRAEL IN PERSON AND PUTTING IT AT THE WALL OF WHAT IS PURPORTED TO BE THE WALL OF THE SECOND TEMPLE. IT WILL COST YOU THE SAME -- OR A LOT MORE IF THESE SO-CALLED RELIGIOUS CON MEN AND WOMEN GET THEIR HANDS INTO YOUR POCKETS, PURSES, CREDIT CARDS AND BANK AND SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

WHY DOES GOD LET THIS HAPPEN? MAYBE BECAUSE HE GAVE YOU COMMON SENSE AND INTELLIGENCE AND WHEN YOU LET GREED AND LAZINESS OVERRIDE THEM, YOU BRING THESE BAD THINGS ON YOURSELF.

SO FAR, NOBODY GETS A WEAPON AND FORCES YOU TO GIVE MONEY TO THESE TELLERS OF BEAUTIFUL LIES OR TELLERS OF OUTRAGEOUS LIES AFTER DISARMING YOU WITH "HOLY GHOST HUMOR."

TBN IS A FREAK SHOW AND NOTHING MORE.

A PARADE OF FILTH AND DESECRATION AND BLASPHEMY WHICH I DO NOT CHOOSE TO WATCH AND BECAUSE OF IT, MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS WHO HANG ON EVERY WORD BROADCAST THERE AS "DIVINE REVELATION" ( OY! WEG!) AND I NO LONGER HAVE MUCH TO SAY TO EACH OTHER CONCERNING RELIGION. WHEN THEY ARE HURTING FOR MONEY, I WILL NOT SAY I TOLD YOU SO...I WILL HOPE THAT THEY WILL USE THE COMMON SENSE AND INTELLECT THAT GOD HARD PROGRAMMED INTO THEM AND NOT FALL FOR SUCH DRECK IN THE FUTURE.

IF YOU GET CONNED OUT OF YOUR MONEY BY THESE WEIRDOS -- IT IS YOUR FAULT.

CHRISTIANS AND JEWS ==WE CAN AGREE ON A LOT, BUT IF TBN IS CHRISTIAN AND THEY SAY THEY ARE JEWISH ---NO WAY! I KNOW THEY ARE LIARS.

WELL, THEN JUST WHAT ARE THEY?

EXCEPT FOR THE OBVIOUS LIES AND TALL TALES ( TO ME, ANYWAY). IT REMINDS ME OF A BUNCH OF SMALL TOWN, UNTRAVELED IGNORANT FOLKS WITH NOTHING BUT A CHRISTIAN BIBLE TO GUIDE THEM AND NO REAL INSTRUCTION FROM A RABBI OR EVEN A SEMINARY-TRAINED AND EDUCATED CLERGYMAN.

THEY "PUZZLED IT OUT" THAT GOD HAS CHOSEN THE JEWS TO BE HIS PEOPLE WHICH MEANS THAT THEY,THE SMALL TOWN BIBLE READERS AND INTERPRETERS, ARE NOT AND SO THEY ARE ANGRY AND THEY HATE THE JEWS. I THINK THAT IS WHERE LOT OF ANTI- JEWISH RAGE COMES FROM.

I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY CHRISTIANS PAID SO MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT ONE PRONOUNCEMENT IN THE TORAH AND AND NOT READ MORE IN THEIR NEW TESTAMENT WHERE IT IS CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT CHRISTIANS ARE GRAFTED INTO THE SAME TREE AND THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE, MALE AND FEMALE, ETC. OF THOSE WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS CHRISTIAN  RELIGION. CHRISTIANITY CAME FROM JUDAISM.

WELL, OUR WELL-MEANING AND ANGRY FRIENDS COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY WANT TO BE JEWS TOO BUT JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYONE IS THE SON OR DAUGHTER OF GOD., THERE IS ONLY ONE  GOD. PERIOD.

THE CONCEPT OF THE TRINITY WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE CHRISTIAN BELIEF WHEN THOMAS WENT TO EVANGELIZE INDIA. NOT SO FAR FETCHED, AS MANY DATES AND VENERATED OBJECTS OF PAGANISM ( MITHRAS WORSHIP, ESPECIALLY) WERE INCORPORATED INTO CHRISTIANITY TO PLACATE THE ROMANS WHO WERE MURDERING CHRISTIANS WHOLESALE, AS A POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT THING TO DO).

THE CHRISTIANS WANT TO BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD AND MANY ALSO BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS GOD. THEY ALSO MAY REMEMBER THAT HE WAS JEWISH AND THEY WANT TO HONOR THAT WITHOUT GIVING UP WHAT THEY BELIEVE ABOUT HIM.IT IS THEIR RELIGION,AFTER ALL.

NOW, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO BE JEWS?

MANY JEWISH PEOPLE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS AND OTHER ENDEAVORS. BUT MOST OF US ARE NOT, JUST FARMERS AND ORDINARY PEOPLE IN ORDINARY WORKING JOBS.

THE IGNORANT ONLY KNOW THE STEREOTYPES. THEY CAN READILY LEARN ABOUT THE SUCCESSFUL JEWS IN THE NEWS BUT DO NOT KNOW ANY JEWS PERSONALLY. THAT IS WHERE THE IGNORANCE COMES IN. ALL THEY "KNOW" IS WHAT THEY READ AND WHAT THEY SEE IN NEWS MEDIA.

SO THEY THINK SINCE CHRISTIANTY EVOLVED FROM JUDAISM AND THEY TAKE ONLY THE JEWISH PART OF CHRISTIANITY AND KEEP THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT BELIEF AS WELL --  NOW HAVE MESSIANIC JUDIAISM BECAUSE THEY ARE GRAFTED IN GENTILES WHO HAVE JESUS AS  MESSIAH --- THE ONE JEWS HAVE BEEN WAITING ON. HE HAS BEEN HERE ONCE AND HE IS COMING BACK AGAIN. WELL...
 
INTERESTING CONCEPT AND ONE I EXPLORED BY ATTENDING SOME OF THEIR SERVICES AS A GUEST.

WHAT I SAW WAS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL BEING WRAPPED IN A JEWISH-APPEARING PACKAGE AND THE VERY WORST OF THE PENTECOSTAL, CHARISMATIC BOONDOGGLE AND TOMFOOLERY AND LIES AND DECEPTIONS OF THE KIND TBN  TRIES TO MANIPULATE THEIR VIEWERS WITH.

FAULTY LOGIC BASED ON STEREOTYPES.
ALL JEWS ARE RICH.
ALL JEWS ARE RICH BECAUSE GOD PROSPERS THEM.
IF WE DO WHAT THE JEWS DO, RELIGION-WISE WE WILL BE RICH TOO.
AND DON'T FORGET TO TITHE SO THE EXPOUNDERS OF THIS DRECK WILL BECOME RICH. AND THEY TELL YOU THAT BY GIVING MONEY TO THEM, YOU WILL GET RICH TOO WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK.

NO YOU WON'T.
MANY OF US JEWS HAVE EXTENDED FAMILIES AND WORK EXTREMELY HARD AND KEEP WITH THE MARKETING AND GENERAL ECONOMIC TRENDS AND DO NOT LOSE TOUCH WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET. WE ARE ALSO EXTREMELY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY AND I KNOW A LOT OF NON-JEWISH PEOPLE WHO DO THE SAME AND ARE DOING OK FINANCIALLY. MAYBE SOMEBODY SITS ON THEIR BUTT ALL DAY WITHOUT WORKING AND GETS THE PROVERBIAL MANNA FROM HEAVEN BUT I DOUBT IT SERIOUSLY. NOBODY IN MY FAMILY.

ALL THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL CROOKS AND LIARS HAVE DONE IS COME IN AND PREEMPTED THE OUTWARD TRAPPINGS AND SYMBOLS OF MY RELIGION WITH NONE OF THE CULTURE OR TRUE TORAH BELIEFS. I PITY THE TORAH SCROLLS THEY MARCH AROUND WITH AND CAN ONLY READ A FEW LETTERS-- LIKE THEY ARE A VOO DOO DOLL OR OTHER MAGIC TALISMAN--TOTALLY DEVOID OF THE SPIRITUAL MEANING. OR THEY LIGHT CHANNUKAH LIGHTS AND THINK THAT IS THE MENNORAH OF THE TEMPLE AND THAT DRESSING LIKE JEWS OUTSIDE MEANS THEY ARE REAL JEWS... NO,NO,NO, SO PAINFUL TO SEE..AND THEY THINK THIS WILL MAKE THEM RICH OR CURE THEM OR BRING THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT.. NO IT WON'T.

WHEN IT DOES NOT, THEY DO NOT BLANE TBN. THEY BLAME JEWS.
THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE ITEMS MEANT OR HOW TO USE THEM PROPERLY. JEWISH RELIGIOUS ITEMS ARE NOT THE TRASH YOU BUY IN THE OCCULT STORES TO CAST MAGIC  SPELLS,PEOPLE!!!!!

AND WHEN I SEE THESE IGNORANT, GREEDY  PEOPLE OF TBN USING THE EMBLEMS AND SYMBOLS OF MY RELIGION TO CON OTHERS, IT MAKES ME SICK.

I WISH I COULD SUE THEM FOR FALSE ADVERTISING.

IT IS NOT THE TALLIT ( PRAYER SHAWL) THAT BRINGS PROSPERITY AND MONEY, IT IS YOUR OWN HARD WORK AND SKILL AND LUCK AND SUPPORT FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND A GOOD BUSINESS PLAN.  THE TALLIT IS JUST AN INANIMATE OBJECT WITH WHICH YOU WEAR TO VENERATE GOD AS A SIGN OF RESPECT. IT CONTAINS NO INNATE ABILITY TO MAKE YOU RICH. IT IS NOT A SHORTCUT TO EXPEDITE YOUR PRAYERS TO GOD BUT IT IS LOGICAL IF YOU RESPECT AND VENERATE HIM AND MAKE THE EXTRA EFFORT TO HONOR HIM, NO MATTER WHAT FAITH YOU ARE, THAT HE WILL APPRECIATE IT. ( NO HUMAN SACRIFICE OR RITUAL MUTILATION, HOWEVER, HE SPECIFIES "DO NOT DO THESE THINGS" IN THE TORAH AND A WHOLE LOT MORE.)

IT IS NOT THE OIL THAT HEALS BUT GOD WHO HEALS. AND HE HAS ENABLED PHYSICIANS TO LEARN TO DIAGNOSE AND TREAT DISEASE --SO USE THEIR AID AS WELL...

NONE OF THE TRINKETS HAWKED AT TBN HAVE ANY MAGIC SPIRITUAL POWER. NONE.

BUT THE HUCKSTERS AT TBN WANT YOU TO THINK SO AND SELL YOU WORTHLESS RAGS LIKE VOO DOO ITEMS THAT ALLEGEDLY WILL WORK MAGIC FOR YOU.

GREED AND LAZY ARE THE BEST FRIENDS TBN HAS.

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#21 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You are so spot on!!!

AUTHOR: nlanci17 - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, December 18, 2009

I just wanted to say that you are so spot on about this that I just had to point it out to you!

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#20 REBUTTAL Individual responds

exposing the truth about these thiefs

AUTHOR: truth will overcome - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, December 17, 2009

thank god people are finally coming forth and exposing these flim flam con man and women for the thieves they are.  what happened to the rule of law where the public has exposed these thieves for what they truely are?  why hasn't law enforcement locked up and put in jail these scum of the earth no good bastares?  I would de-port hinne and send him back to where every he came from (i'm sure they don't want him either).  with all the troubles are country is going through now do we need low life scum like this to take advantage of hurting people?  if it where in my authority i would hang them up by their balls if they had any.  please, please, please get these idiots off the air ways and put in jail or a nut house where they belong.  this is a form of legalised thieft.     

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#19 Consumer Comment

He's a fraud

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 16, 2008

Can anybody explain to me why Benny Hinn needs a Gulfstream IV jet? I saw on wikipedia that he wanted to purchase one. In case you don't know, a Gulfstream IV costs nearly $30 million to purchase. The annual maintence and operating costs are usually well over $600,000 per year. He will not get 1 cent of my money for this very reason.

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#18 Consumer Comment

Benny Hinn

AUTHOR: Jw - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 10, 2007

My best friend died 5 years ago of cervical cancer. We both attended a local "prosperity gospel" church where we heard about tithing and giving and give and giving almost every single Sunday. My friend tithed and gave over and above the average person. She taught Sunday School for years and was also in the choir. If ever my friend ever heard of anyone needing anything she was always right there to help.

A few months before she died her husband took her to a Benny Hinn CONference. She was week and using oxygen so I called Hinn's ministry and a woman told me that my friend should not stand in the long lines b/c of her condition, but she should get the attention of a "worker" and tell him/her her situation and be let in early to sit in the front rows.

They went with all faith and hope that she would be healed in the name of Jesus. But when they got there & her husband got the attention of the worker, she was told she would have to wait. When they got inside finally, they were ushered to the back and upstairs way in the back where the cameras could not see.

She gave a lot of money to that ministry and other similar ministries, but it was not meant to be. Now we know that Hinn seats the very sick in the back so that his ministry will look like everyone is healed. This is a shameful way to desecrate the name of Jesus, all for the love of money....GREED by any other name.

My sweet friend died a few months later believing that God did not love her enough to heal her.

Benny Hinn has admitted that he can not substantiate one single healing, but that does not stop him from promoting his money-hungry 'BUSINESS' of fleecing the flock. He sells God and gives people false hope. How many people has he told they were healed and they got off their meds and died. Shameful! Then they tell you it's your fault that you didn't have enough faith, or you have hidden sin in your life.

If you got saved under one of these prosperity gospel ministries, please be sure you are really saved.....they sell a false Jesus.

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#17 Consumer Comment

Just Because Benny Hinn Claims to be Born in Israel Doesn't Make Him Entitled to MY Money!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, October 06, 2006

I read these comments here with great interest.

I AM a Jew.

I do not find the Christian Messiah as objectionable as many of us do, just the things that His followers, or people who claim to have been His followers have done to us for years in His Name!

We have a somewhat of a Cult that tries to give Jews a bad name too ( Messianic Judaism) and I think it is the same one that preys upon our impressionable young people, especiallly the ones who want to know about Judaism because they find something lacking in Christianity. They mention Benny Hinn a lot and I would like to tell you that he was NOT raised in A Jewish home. He wasn't even born to Jewish parents either but because Judaism is the State Religion of Israel, he obviously learned a lot about it because the entire Nation takes off for traditional Jewish holidays except emergency workers and those who can save a life under Rabbi's ruling! That would have been me.

Armed with this information and an outrageous accent that seems to get thicker and fakier the more he is in the US, Mr.Hinn would have the ignorant people think that because he was born in Israel ( I THINK he MAY be telling the truth about something like that, for a change) and offers Jewish-style merchandise on his on-line store, that he should be equated with the Christian Messiah named Jesus Who also happened to be born in Israel. Benny Hinn appropiates all the things that Jesus should have among the Christians and I think he had turned a lot of people off to Christianity when they think about what he is REALLY doing!

BENNY HINN IS NOT A JEW!
Let's get this straight up front!

He never had a bar mitzvah and his mother wasn't Jewish either! He never converted to Judaism either.

JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE BORN IN ISRAEL DOES NOT MAKE YOU A JEW!

Only the Orthodox Jews and some Conservative Jews believe that you are Jewish if your MOTHER is Jewish and after so many of us were lost in the Holocaust, who knows for sure anymore?

Because Benny Hinn CLAIMS he went to a Catholic school he is not a Catholic either.

Just because he knows the name of Jesus and invokes Him doesn't mean a thing. Even ha-Satan knows the name of Jesus... so do all the demons in Hell. So what?

His "religion" consists of how much money he can get and how fast he can stuff it into the pockets of those ridiculiously overpriced suits he wears.

The only kind of "Jew" he could possibly be even remotely close to being would be a "Messianic Jew "and those aren't even really Jews. They try to pretend to be Jewish and they study Hebrew and they observe the Jewish religious Holidays but they also are followers of the Prosperity Gospel and the other Charismatic nonsense. Wait until I post myu take on Messianic Jews. I went undercover for two years and I have a LOT of information about them to post on this site. They are a rip-off too!

The only reason Benny Hinn and his followers want to imitate the Jews is because of stereotypical nonsense that Jews have a lot of money or know how to make it and that G*d has blessed us because we are His very own personal people chosen above all others. That is sheer nonsense! We are just people like everybody else. We bleed, we die, we give birth, we have to work for a living and nothing is handed to us. We do not"prosper" and nothing comes to us by magic just because we are Jewish.

It is this myth that everything we touch magically turns to money that Benny Hinn is selling to the people. Because he was born in Israel and Israel is a Jewish state then this so-called magic power of the Jews to make all this money is what is really being worshipped and Benny Hinn says that if you give him money, this power that G*d allegedly gave the Jews to make money will come to you too. You won't have to work and if you give him money, more money will magically come to you without effort. What a con job that is!

What about the Holocaust where we were murdered by millions?

I am Jewish and I wish like everything I was rich.

For Benny Hinn, Jews=money and money=worship!Take this faulty logic one step or two further. Jesus=born in Israel and Benny Hinn =born in Israel...

You have to WORK for your money, G*d doesn't just give you the money without working like those charismatic preacher liars would have you to believe. They lie in His name so they maybe THEY don't have to work, maybe, And you sure are NOT going to get money by listening to their lies about how you give G*d $50 and He will give you $500 back!And you don't have to WORK for that $500! When have you got a $500 check from G*d? Has He reached his Mighty Hand down and gave you money lately? That preacher is going to take your $50 and put it in his back pocket and laugh at your duplicity and ignorance.

You can go on The Rip Off Report and read about Robert Tilton ( in his own separate cartegory) and all the other people who have been an influence of Benny Hinn!

Those lying Charismatic "Preachers" have bamboozled their poor sheeple so badly that they are almost worshipping us Jews. They need to be worshipping G*d instead and honoring His Son (The Christian Messiah as you believe Him to be.)instead of worshipping money the way they do!

I went to a Messianic Jewish place of "worship" where wonders, signs and miracles were promised but just got some more fantastic stories, lies and promises turned to sand when I no longer had money to give those frauds.

Take it from me, when you give money to a lying, materialistic, money-worshipping Prosperity Gospel Preaching FRAUD, you will NEVER get anything back but a broken heart and empty pockets!

Listen closely to Benny Hinn. When he says,Lord, is he really talking about your Jesus OR does he mean himself? I found that he was equating the two --on purpose. To make his followers think that he was worthy of all their money and they were nothing but grovelling, adoring slaves whose sole purpose in life was to hand over their entire check to him.

Oh, the lies he tells!

As far as Paul Crouch and his ditzie-looking wife (I bet she doesn't dress that way at home and her mind is as agile, sharp and cold as a cash register), leave them alone. THEY ARE JUST RUNNING A BUSINESS LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS! When you realize that they are NOT holy, they have No Word from G*d, they are just very good businesspeople who know how to market a product and avoid scandal better than Tilton or Grant or Swaggart... then it all begins to make sense.

If you don't want to give money to the Paul and Jan show, DON'T GIVE! They look like they have more than enough.And they sure as hell won't share any of it with YOU!

I am amazed that people who claim to be Christians can fall for this idiotic, outrageous form of "entertainment." because that's all it is!
ENTERTAINMENT! They even give their singers Dove awards insteaed of Grammy awards based on how much their albums SELL--just like the secular culture they try to to remove themselves from.

Synagogues can be pricey. They cahrge for seats in there on Holy Days (except in the Orthodox shuls) and every family that joins has to pay so much to have a memebrship. They have a few free seats because it helps them to do mitzvahs to let us poor Jews have a seat for free but those seats are usually up there where everybody can get a good look at you, how your clothes are not as expensive as theirs and how they are resenting that they had to pay hu8ndres or thousands of dollars for seats and the poor Jews sit there for free.

And when I went to check out a membership in a Christian church, they come at you with a credit check paper that you have to fill out and want to know how much money you make, etc.

I think I will too avaoid all religions and observe my traditional Holidays by myself.

I am told the same situation exists in the Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim places of worship.

Most religious organizations whatever they may be are really nothing more that private clubs where the members decide who comes inside. They pay their money. They should be able to do that.

The first time I attended a charismatic service, I was so afraid, I ran past the two big burly men in their cheap "Sunday best" who stood by the back doors and looked like bouncers, jumped in my car and never slowed down.

I am glad now I did.

Just go to the search index on THE RIP OFF REPORT and type in "Robert Tilton" and see read what is there.

If you want to know the TRUTH about Jews, check out the Chabad site on the Internet or ask Moses that is there.

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in re: to trinity broadcasting

AUTHOR: Shelton - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, October 02, 2006

hello, this realy shocks that some one can be born a christian, so the death of my LORD and saviour was all in vain. I don't think so sorry but you cannot be born a christian we must accept and confess our sins believe he is GODS only begotten son born of the virgin birth and that he died on the cross for our sins and on the 3rd day he rose from the tomb yes I'M speaking of JESUS CHRIST GODS only begotten son, I am not afraid to mention GODS name or JESUS CHRISTS' name here or any where else for I am not ashamed of the gospel of GOD.Titheing is acommand showing our love and obedience to GOD,churches have electic bills as people do, mortgage bills,and one other thing who are u to judge televangilists or evangelists or peachers, u r not GOD. I JUST WONDER IF WE DONT PAY TITHES WHERE WILL U SPEND ETERNITY.

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#15 Consumer Comment

TBN & The Truth About The Tithe

AUTHOR: Byron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 30, 2006

I actually saw and heard Paul Crouch lie about the Bible to the viewers of TBN, and it was done in order to keep people in the bondage of following the lie that has been told by corrupt so-called preachers for generations concerning the tithe. Corrupt so-called preachers throughout the world have lied about the tithe and continue to lie about the tithe in order to continue to generate baseline income that will be there regardless of whether or not another penny is collected, and the lie about the tithe has enabled generations of corrupt so-called preachers to swindle generations of people out of billions of dollars. This is definitely one of the greatest crimes perpetrated against mankind and it definitely needs to be addressed. We focus on educating people about the Bible and the Bible is crystal clear about the tithe and there is no refuting the truth. In regards to tithing, the question is not what is someone's opinion or interpretation of Malachi 3:10. The question is what does the Bible say about Malachi 3:10 and other scriptures concerning the tithe? The tithe COMMAND in the Bible was part of the LAW which was given by GOD to the ISRAELITES through Moses, had to do specifically with the produce of the land and the livestock (NOT MONEY), and can be found in the Old Testament (Leviticus 27:30-34) (Numbers 18:20-32) (Deuteronomy 14:22-29) and the New Testament (Hebrews 7:5). Hebrews 7:5 states And verily they that are of the SONS OF LEVI who receive the office of the PRIESTHOOD have a COMMANDMENT to take TITHES of the people according to the LAW, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham. Jesus referred to the Law in Matthew 23:23 as he spoke of the scribes and Pharisees tithe of the produce of the land (mint, anise and cummin), and Jesus also spoke of the Law in Luke 11:42 as he spoke of the Pharisees tithe of the produce of the land (mint, rue and all manner of herbs). The Israelites followed the LAW which required them to tithe the produce of the land and the livestock as stated in Deuteronomy 14:22-29 and Malachi 3:7-12. The tithe was for the ISRAELITES and it was NOT MONEY. How do you give money? FREEWILL GIVING, which has NO PERCENTAGE placed upon the giver, as shown by Jesus in Mark 12:41-44 as there were NO PERCENTAGES placed on those giving to the treasury, and also stated by the Apostle Paul in 2nd Corinthians 9:7, as Paul said "EVERY MAN according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver". The Apostle Paul said that no one is to give out of necessity, which is the Greek word anagke (an-ang-kay'), which is defined as constraint, and a person is not to give out of having constraints placed on them to give. People are under no command to give any other way than as they purpose in their hearts to give as God has prospered them. The Apostle Paul did not teach the tithe and there are no records in the New Testament showing that the Apostle Paul paid tithes to anyone while following Jesus Christ, and there are no records in the New Testament of anyone in the Church of Jesus Christ paying tithes to anyone, or taking tithes from anyone.
Corrupt so-called preachers have lied about the Bible for generations and attempted to use fear to generate money. As I stated at the beginning, Paul Crouch of TBN attempted to lie about the story of Abraham and Melchizedek by stating to the viewers that Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and then he was rich in cattle, silver and gold. He flat out lied to the viewers, because the bible clearly states that Abraham was very rich in cattle, silver and gold in Genesis 13:2 which was before he had ever met Melchizedek, which took place later in Genesis 14:17-20. This was done by Crouch in an attempt to reinforce the lie that they teach about Malachi 3:10 and most of the viewers probably didn't catch his lie, but this is an example of how they will lie about scripture to deceive the people in order to generate baseline income. When corrupt so-called preachers attempt to use Abraham, they don't inform the people that Abraham recovered the goods that belonged to his nephew Lot and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah because they had been taken captive and Abraham rescued them and brought them back along with their goods, and it was out of these goods that Abraham gave tithes, or in other words, a tenth, to Melchizedek. Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek out of the goods that he had RECOVERED that BELONGED to his NEPHEW LOT and the PEOPLE of SODOM and GOMORRAH. Abraham did NOT give tithes to Melchizedek out of his own goods, he gave tithes to Melchizedek out of the spoils that he brought back. Also, Corrupt so-called preachers don't inform the people that Melchizedek DID NOT ask Abraham for anything. Melchizedek DID NOT command Abraham to give him tithes of the spoils recovered. Abraham DECIDED IN HIS OWN HEART what he was going to do with the spoils that he brought back. Abraham gave freely as he made the DECISION to give Melchizedek a tenth of the spoils recovered, so here we see Abraham giving freely before the LAW, just as the Apostle Paul stated that those of us in the church today are supposed to give in 2nd Corinthians 9:7 when he stated "EVERY MAN according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver". Abraham gave as he purposed in his heart to give. Abraham made the decision and he was under NO COMMAND to give Melchizedek a percentage of anything out of the spoils that he recovered. Abraham FREELY DECIDED IF, HOW MUCH AND WHEN he would give Melchizedek out of the spoils he had recovered. Corrupt so called preachers don't inform the people that there is no scripture anywhere in the Bible showing that Abraham EVER tithed anything out of his own personal goods. This is the only reference to tithes and Abraham and it DOESN'T have ANYTHING to do with Abraham's PERSONAL GOODS. The only scriptures in the Bible about tithes and Abraham are Genesis 14:17-20 in the Old Testament and Hebrews chapter 7 in the New Testament where the story of Abraham and Melchizedek is retold, and we can plainly see that as stated in Genesis 13:2, Abraham was very rich in cattle, silver and gold before he ever met Melchizedek. This goes totally against what corrupt so-called preachers teach, but they lie about the Bible in order to generate baseline income. Corrupt so-called preachers also attempt to use Abraham's grandson Jacob, but they don't inform the people that God didn't ask Jacob for anything. God DID NOT command Jacob to give him a tithe of anything. Jacob DECIDED IN HIS OWN HEART what he WOULD DO and he states that he will do it only IF GOD DOES SOME THINGS FOR HIME FIRST. Jacob had no constraints placed on him to give anything and neither did Abraham. Not only did Jacob have the freewill to do whatever he wanted to do, he also placed certain stipulations in the vow that he made to God. Jacob vowed a vow to God in Genesis 28:20-22, which reads: " And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, IF God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, So that I come again to my father's house in peace; THEN shall the Lord be my God: And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee". Jacob plainly states that IF the Lord blesses him first, then he will make the Lord his God and out of all that God gives him, he will surely give a tenth to God, which shows again that Jacob intends on God to bless him first and then after God blesses him first he'll give a tenth to God. The corrupt so-called preachers don't want the people to know the truth and they are afraid that if the people knew the truth of these scriptures their money would be cut down drastically. The majority of those who are giving money are the poor people in the world who believe the lies of these men and women and give what they can't afford to give in the hopes that they will receive a blessing based upon the corrupt so-called preacher's lie about Malachi 3:10 and other scriptures. Most people are following the lie of the church tithe for financial reasons. If everyone said what Jacob said and everyone decided to wait until they received the financial blessings that they are seeking from God to get them out of financial turmoil before they would give one red cent, the baseline income that these liars are generating to live luxurious lifestyles would be cut down considerably. The bottom line is NO ONE IS UNDER ANY COMMAND FROM GOD TO TITHE MONEY TO ANYONE, and THOSE WHO ARE FINANCIALLY ABLE TO GIVE CAN GIVE AS THEY PURPOSE IN THEIR HEARTS TO GIVE AS GOD HAS PROSPERED THEM. We pray that this report/rebuttal answers questions and sets multitudes of people free from the bondage of the lie of the church tithe. God Bless You All.

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Madness Turn the TV off

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

My feelings on all preachers know they are lying. They doubt but are in the business of selling an intangible product and have to work on faith. Otherwise they are crazy or more politically correct, mentally unstable because they are having visions of the future. Nothing new perhaps Cassandra has handsomely paid too.

If indeed Mr. Hinn is mentally ill, someone should remove him from the decision-making responsibilities of how to handle the money. Provide an audit all you want but CEOs of companies have to report to stockholders how successful or not the companies have been. What exactly is Mr. Hinn's business? Is it making money or is it saving souls. Since his prophecies have not come true I would venture to say that the little voice in his head does not come from a higher power. It would seem unlikely he is saving souls but is actually making money.

Mr. Hinn is in the moneymaking business and will be able to show that through his audits. Is there a soul audit I wonder? No I don't think so and the government is unlikely to get involved in monitoring the success of soul saving.

Mr. Hinn is either crazy as a bed bug or like a fox. Really though I don't think you need to be all that smart to convince people that things that go bump in the night is the boogy man. As for me I feel the world is 98% good and decent and doesn't need saving. The news is mostly bad but that's why it's news. If bad things were the norm or prevalent it wouldn't be news. Mr. Hinn and company sell fear based upon 2% of what is going on. If I am right then Satan isn't doing a very good job either or he doesn't exist.

Here's a test. Go out and talk to your neighbor. Are they bad people? Do they steal and rob or kill. Probably not. They usually want the same things most people want. Prosperity, good education for their kids. Nice house, nice car. They have to work to get it and most of them do it honestly. They make a product that we use and are willing to pay for. Mr. Hinn sells nothing but fear. Salvation from what? Turn the TV off and Mr. Hinn and all the other bad news will go away.

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Madness Turn the TV off

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

My feelings on all preachers know they are lying. They doubt but are in the business of selling an intangible product and have to work on faith. Otherwise they are crazy or more politically correct, mentally unstable because they are having visions of the future. Nothing new perhaps Cassandra has handsomely paid too.

If indeed Mr. Hinn is mentally ill, someone should remove him from the decision-making responsibilities of how to handle the money. Provide an audit all you want but CEOs of companies have to report to stockholders how successful or not the companies have been. What exactly is Mr. Hinn's business? Is it making money or is it saving souls. Since his prophecies have not come true I would venture to say that the little voice in his head does not come from a higher power. It would seem unlikely he is saving souls but is actually making money.

Mr. Hinn is in the moneymaking business and will be able to show that through his audits. Is there a soul audit I wonder? No I don't think so and the government is unlikely to get involved in monitoring the success of soul saving.

Mr. Hinn is either crazy as a bed bug or like a fox. Really though I don't think you need to be all that smart to convince people that things that go bump in the night is the boogy man. As for me I feel the world is 98% good and decent and doesn't need saving. The news is mostly bad but that's why it's news. If bad things were the norm or prevalent it wouldn't be news. Mr. Hinn and company sell fear based upon 2% of what is going on. If I am right then Satan isn't doing a very good job either or he doesn't exist.

Here's a test. Go out and talk to your neighbor. Are they bad people? Do they steal and rob or kill. Probably not. They usually want the same things most people want. Prosperity, good education for their kids. Nice house, nice car. They have to work to get it and most of them do it honestly. They make a product that we use and are willing to pay for. Mr. Hinn sells nothing but fear. Salvation from what? Turn the TV off and Mr. Hinn and all the other bad news will go away.

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Madness Turn the TV off

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

My feelings on all preachers know they are lying. They doubt but are in the business of selling an intangible product and have to work on faith. Otherwise they are crazy or more politically correct, mentally unstable because they are having visions of the future. Nothing new perhaps Cassandra has handsomely paid too.

If indeed Mr. Hinn is mentally ill, someone should remove him from the decision-making responsibilities of how to handle the money. Provide an audit all you want but CEOs of companies have to report to stockholders how successful or not the companies have been. What exactly is Mr. Hinn's business? Is it making money or is it saving souls. Since his prophecies have not come true I would venture to say that the little voice in his head does not come from a higher power. It would seem unlikely he is saving souls but is actually making money.

Mr. Hinn is in the moneymaking business and will be able to show that through his audits. Is there a soul audit I wonder? No I don't think so and the government is unlikely to get involved in monitoring the success of soul saving.

Mr. Hinn is either crazy as a bed bug or like a fox. Really though I don't think you need to be all that smart to convince people that things that go bump in the night is the boogy man. As for me I feel the world is 98% good and decent and doesn't need saving. The news is mostly bad but that's why it's news. If bad things were the norm or prevalent it wouldn't be news. Mr. Hinn and company sell fear based upon 2% of what is going on. If I am right then Satan isn't doing a very good job either or he doesn't exist.

Here's a test. Go out and talk to your neighbor. Are they bad people? Do they steal and rob or kill. Probably not. They usually want the same things most people want. Prosperity, good education for their kids. Nice house, nice car. They have to work to get it and most of them do it honestly. They make a product that we use and are willing to pay for. Mr. Hinn sells nothing but fear. Salvation from what? Turn the TV off and Mr. Hinn and all the other bad news will go away.

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I think this says it all........

AUTHOR: Ben - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

I think this one comment from an earlier poster says it all..........

"They are a blessed ministry and so is Benny Hinn, but who says that preachers must be poor?"

My question:

Who says a preacher should be rich?

Isnt having "God" supposed to make you the rich in itself? What use does "God" have for money anyway?

So next time you see this con-man say "send money to God", just remember....its not for God. Its not a charity issue. Its not to do "God's work". Its for Benny, and nobody else. What money they do spend is to convert more. Be it here in the States or abroad. Once more are converted....then more money is "given to God (Benny)". Rinse and Repeat. Starts sounding like a pyramid scheme eh? Maybe Benny took lessons from Primerica? All in the name of "God". And if anyone dares to speak up, then "God will punish!". They got a perfect scam going. Complete with the wrath of "God" if you dare object.

Now reach deep into your hearts by all means. But if you reach deep into your pocketbook for this scam artist, you might as well bend over and take it deep in the "you know what" as well.

You want to be religous? Great! More power to you! Goto church on sunday (or whatever day is for your religon) and drop a few bucks down there. So they can fix that broken stained glass window. Fix that sqeaky front door hinge. Buy a new bell for the tower. And maybe send a few bucks to some ravaged part of the planet where the latest "act of God" struck. Dont send some crummy crook money so he can buy a Humvee and go on a cruise to the Bahamas.

I really cant see how anyone can take Jan Croce and her cronies like Benny seriously anyways with those eyelashes and inch thick makeup. SpongeBob Squarepants looks more real. And acts like it.

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Jesus was a carpenter

AUTHOR: Tony - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

I was born and raised as a Christian and one thing I learned was that people "humans" are not to be trusted. (Trust no man) I dont attend church or any religious organization any more because its basically tied into some business or political function. By taking tithes, you may as well have a casino. These people get nothing back and there is nothing in the bible that states a person is suppose to submit MONEY every paycheck or monthly. To my memory, it stated wine, food and gifts for the preacher and it was never something used as bait to instill fear into poor people or anyone. You know, it's amazing that jesus was a carpenter and never built ONE CHURCH! Please keep your money and pray and you will be blessed. Dont give your money to Hinn, Price, Jakes or any of these Crooks because if you do your money will not go to God, it will go to some political party, and new billion dollar building or someones pocket. There are other more important an needy people in the world that can use a buck a day but these Mega Churches try to tie themselves to these organizations. Dont be a dud, wake up.

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Closing

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 17, 2006

I do not have time to devote to revealing the truth about TBN, Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, or Richard Roberts. These people may actually be "hearing from G-D". I do not know. I may be "hearing from G-D". Would you believe me? Probably not.

In closing, there is no scientific way to conclude this. I have to allow the "benefit of the doubt". I will leave it to Mr. Crouch's "heresy hunters" to continue the debate. I for one, have better things to do.

I do not hate these people. I merely hate being caught up in useless arguments like this. I won't blame anyone for it. Good day.

P.S. I started this all in COGAR, OKLAHOMA and then I moved to San Jose, California. I also changed my address to Glendale, California at one point. I've never been to Glendale. I just wanted to see if they would check this address out. Sorry for doing that.

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Another Way of Seeing it.

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2005

And finally, I think that there is some value to what people like Rev. Hinn are doing.

I think there may be some real benefit to some people who have their faith built up in this way.

I have to give the benefit of the doubt.

I can't judge
I'd like to go to Miami someday and since Rev. Hinn is in Orlando, it would be nice to be as nice as possible, especially at this point in time, near the Holidays.

Again, I think Madonna has the best advice on this.

DON'T JUDGE. She sang that on her 'Ray of Light' album. It was one of my favorites.

Happy Holidays,

Kary Pace.

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Another Way of Seeing it.

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2005

And finally, I think that there is some value to what people like Rev. Hinn are doing.

I think there may be some real benefit to some people who have their faith built up in this way.

I have to give the benefit of the doubt.

I can't judge
I'd like to go to Miami someday and since Rev. Hinn is in Orlando, it would be nice to be as nice as possible, especially at this point in time, near the Holidays.

Again, I think Madonna has the best advice on this.

DON'T JUDGE. She sang that on her 'Ray of Light' album. It was one of my favorites.

Happy Holidays,

Kary Pace.

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Another Way of Seeing it.

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2005

And finally, I think that there is some value to what people like Rev. Hinn are doing.

I think there may be some real benefit to some people who have their faith built up in this way.

I have to give the benefit of the doubt.

I can't judge
I'd like to go to Miami someday and since Rev. Hinn is in Orlando, it would be nice to be as nice as possible, especially at this point in time, near the Holidays.

Again, I think Madonna has the best advice on this.

DON'T JUDGE. She sang that on her 'Ray of Light' album. It was one of my favorites.

Happy Holidays,

Kary Pace.

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Another Way of Seeing it.

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 20, 2005

And finally, I think that there is some value to what people like Rev. Hinn are doing.

I think there may be some real benefit to some people who have their faith built up in this way.

I have to give the benefit of the doubt.

I can't judge
I'd like to go to Miami someday and since Rev. Hinn is in Orlando, it would be nice to be as nice as possible, especially at this point in time, near the Holidays.

Again, I think Madonna has the best advice on this.

DON'T JUDGE. She sang that on her 'Ray of Light' album. It was one of my favorites.

Happy Holidays,

Kary Pace.

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Final Comments

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 17, 2005

To Whom it May Concern,

I want to get away from any type of personal attack. I am not
at all interested in trying to attack anyone at a personal level.

The fact is that I am extremely offended by people who want to tell me what to believe. All Priests, Preachers, televangelists and any sort of Religion is built upon that kind of Control. I despise it!

I do not agree with Benny Hinn about the Tithe. In my opinion, TBN and Benny Hinn are Practicing JUDAISM. It's not my idea of Christianity. THEY THINK its CHRISTIANITY and they have that right to believe whatever they want, no matter how far off base they may be. I'm not here to insist that I am right about anything.

I do want to voice my opinion on it. It's Judaism and I'm not Jewish. What that really means is that I'm not religious. I do in fact agree with many Jewish Traditions and many Jewish ideas but I do not practice tithing which originally was something that was done in Ancient Israel. I do not believe that Christianity has anything whatsoever to do with Tithing. In fact, I believe that Tithing is ONLY DONE as a JEW, not as a Christian, but again, this is my opinion.

Also, I will note that Benny Hinn has stated on TBN and inferred that people might have to pay somewhere around 22% if they haven't been tithing. I disagree.

Also, the Ancient Jews did not actually Tithe every year. THEY TITHED EVERY THREE YEARS! The Televangelists don't tell you about this at all because they would lose revenue. I'm not saying these people are necessarily crooked, I am saying that they don't read the Bible fully and I think they miss things and I think they are somehow deceived about what the Bible actually says. I don't see how they can miss it but I am not calling them liars at all. They read what they want it to say and not what it actually says.

Also, I've asked Jews about this and even they can't answer me clearly about the Tithe. The Tithe is also depending on if you are in Israel. IT IS A JEWISH THING. Also, I went to a Jewish Temple in Oklahoma City for 2 years and I was never asked for any money whatsoever. I am not Jewish. I liked the Jews in Oklahoma City; I didn't like the Jews on Beverly Boulevard who threw me out for sleeping. Jews are different in different places. But even the ones who threw me out had the right to do so because they probably thought it was disrespectful to keep falling asleep. I couldn't help it because I was homeless and was walking around Hollywood all night long. That's fine. I'm not anti-Jewish and I'm not Pro-Jewish either. I don't care about Religion at all. I'm trying to escape it and I have rights as a U.S. citizen to at least the pursuit of happiness and that means running as far from a Preacher as I can get because I've had all I'm going to take from them. I don't like being controlled against my will by Religious People. TBN is a television show and I don't even have a television anymore and that's good but even people who do have a remote control so they can turn it off. No one forced me to watch TBN. I used to think it was good. Sure, some people may get benefit from it but I DO NOT! It has done me more harm than good.

By the way, the Catholic Priest I was talking about only wanted 5% so maybe people should try it because it's a lot cheaper that way. By the way, I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore either but I've no quarrel with them at the moment. They do not insist on controlling me and I don't allow them to either. I won't even let my Uncle control me and he's another Preacher. He believes what he believes but I don't believe it. :)

Hey, it's America. Benny Hinn can do whatever is legal and by the way, there is no law against lying. People do it every day and the police can't write you a ticket for it unless you lie to them about speeding or something when they know you did it. I'm not saying Benny Hinn is lying, I'm saying anyone can lie and get away with it on television or in a Church because most people never check out what Preachers are saying just like most people don't really check out what the Politicians are saying and doing.

Yes, and they can lie about Benny Hinn too. I apologize for being stupid enough to make this personal. It is NOT! I don't know Benny Hinn and I'm not interested in attacking his integrity or his ministry in any way.

I am interested in being free of the control of Religion and the ideas that I don't believe in.

Yes, I do believe that Hebrews 7:18 canceled the Tithe. It does not exist in Christianity. The Tithe is an Ancient Jewish idea and only a Practicing Jew might do it and even they might not do it and it may depend on whether you are in America or in Israel. It is not at all clear what Jews actually do. They have different ideas too.

We could get into the idea of Spiritual Judaism and the so called Church being "The New Jews". Well, there is no end to what people can say to twist this. People will have to decide for themselves.

People even claim that Christ supported this idea but they forget that there was no Christianity until after the resurrection. In my mine opinion, Tithing is a way to Crucify Christ all over again. I am totally opposed to the idea and that is my opinion. If you want to Tithe, go ahead, it won't make you rich. But you can get rich with the idea of Television.

Frankly, I see no use for TBN or Benny Hinn Ministries because way too much of people's money goes to support a plethora of television shows that no one needs to watch anyway. What's wrong with reading your Bible instead of listening to someone else tell you what it says. And why listen to me, go read the Bible and figure it out.

In the end, I've got my opinion, you've got yours. This is America and TBN and Benny Hinn are part of that. Freedom of Speech including Larry Flynt, President Bush, and even me. Wow! What a concept.

Merry Christmas.

Thanks for your time,

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Seeing it from Rev. Hinn's Point of View

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 16, 2005

I would like to try and amend this to some extent.
I would like to point out that I once got upset with a Catholic Priest who was talking about tithing as well.
While I've been in San Jose, it occurs to me that the Priest sees things from a different viewpoint than I do.
He believes he is helping people by asking for the tithe. He actually used the phrase:
"It will destroy you, it won't destroy us."
I took offense to this but now I think I see why I'm wrong.
The Priest actually believes that not tithing will destroy them.
He is not trying to extort money but from his point of view, he is trying to help people.
Likewise. Rev. Hinn is likely of the same mindset.

As far as the reports on the Internet, they are not things that I can necessarily prove, for instance, in a court of law, therefore, my words were premature. So, I'm dropping my accusations for lack of evidence.

Furthermore, I have no real evidence whatsoever that Rev. Hinn has any malicious intent. In fact, I apologize if I refered to him as a money hungry televangelist. It is mistake to generalize like that anyway.

I once said, "Benny never says anything wrong." I don't know what happened but somewhere, I believed all the bad reports. It's better if I go back and give Rev. Hinn the benefit of the doubt.

It's Christmas and I think everyone deserves a break at this point.

Thank You.

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Do a Yahoo Search People

AUTHOR: Kary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 15, 2005

Do a Yahoo Search on Benny Hinn and find out what they won't tell you in HOLLYWOOD! Thanks for the Internet San Jose. Bye Bye Holy Rollers! Bye Bye!

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Defending Benny Hinn Ministries

AUTHOR: Victor - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, November 12, 2005

Ok, first thing I would like to say that I know nothing about TBN and their monetary practices. However I am very familiar with Benny Hinn's practices because my family and I are very good freinds with Benny Hinn. I have personally made it my goal to publicly defend Benny Hinn. Everyone and anyone who would like a copy of their financial report all you need to do is call this number 800-433-1900. When anyone has any kind of ministry that is "out of the ordinary" anyone will try, do and say anything that they can to bring reproach against that person, church or ministry. But what "unchurched and churched" people alike fail to notice time and time again is that many of these so called "money hungry ministries" are so scrutinized that they go through rigerous auditing by the IRS and by themselves. I can't speak for all ministries, but I asure you Benny Hinn's ministry is not a money hungry ministry. They are a blessed ministry and so is Benny Hinn, but who says that preachers must be poor? If you are a christian or not and honestly believe that preachers are to be poor or not take any money then personally I think you are jealous because they are prospering with what God has called them to do and you are not.

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