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Complaint Review: United American Insurance - Nationwide

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  • Reported By: Indianapolis Indiana
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  • United American Insurance www.uabranch.com Nationwide U.S.A.

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If you get a telephone call from these guys claiming they have seen your resume and want to invite you for interview, run and hide.....they are nothing more than scammers, looking to have as many "butts in seats" as they possibly can.

Here is the truth about the recruiting operation at UA:

1) No one has EVER looked at your resume. The manager/agent calls EVERYONE that posts a resume on one of the major job boards. In fact a top company spokesperson is once reported as saying that they would hire a "monkey" to do this sales job if they could. The only requirement that you need to get this job is that you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

2) They utilize a churn and burn system. They hire as many as they can, with the intention of a few of them sitting down and cold calling for a day or two. There is no training. The whole system at UA is fuelled by bonuses. You are treated as a number rather than an individual. They will work with you until you get to the magic 12.5k........then they will dump you on your own......yes they made their bonus. You will stick around for a week or two, attend some lame meetings, then finally decide that sales is not for you. The Branch Manager will shake your hand and wish you the best. They already have their next 'victims' going through their system.

3) Promotion is based upon buying into the 1a and 1b WIGS (wildly important goals) This mean making 240 contacts off a cold list (sales genie) in the hope of setting 24 appointments and participating in the continual recruitment of 100 butts in seats per week. The company wants 16 recruits for each branch per week. There is no Manager in Training program like they purport to have.

4) There are some quirks to the way they pay you. They will tell you that you make commissions on all that you sell. True. What they dont tell you is that their max advance is $500 per policy (so if you sell a policy worth $500 and the commission rate is 200% you will only take home that week $500) They will tell you that you will get that later on your "renewal". Also, dont bother going out replacing any insurance......they will pay you as earned. Meaning on the same sale you would only make $150 that week.

5) If you have read this far, and still considering going to that "career fair" here is what will happen on the day. You will be welcomed and ushered into a large room (remember they are expecting 100 people to show) they will have you fill out an Independent Agents Contract and have you sign it, before they have even spoken to you. This document contains certain rights, placed on the agent and the company. DO NOT SIGN this. You only need to sign this if, after having passed your state insurance exam, you apply to the company for appointment.

They will give you a big spiel about how great the company is, how much free time you will have, how much money you will make, how great their lead program is and how easy it is to enter onto their manager in training program. The company has GOOD financial ratings....this does not mean they are a good company to work for. It just means they are solvent and at what ability they have to meet their policyholder obligations. You will not make the money that they have led you to believe that you will. You can make money at UA....about 1 in 10 make it. You will not have free time. THey will tell you you need to be at meetings, in call clinics and prospecting etc etc. Their leads are "sales genie" - and you would be as well with the yellow pages.

So, if you do get that call, save yourself the hassle of going........I can tell you all about UA, and how wonderfuk their company is. My credentials? Lets just say I have been there, done that and got the Tshirt, as an agent, unit manager and branch manager.

Anonymous
Indianapolis, Indiana
U.S.A.

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#5 Consumer Comment

I WAS CONTACTED BY A RECRUTER

AUTHOR: Eby_2004 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 24, 2009

So I just called a gentlemen back that had seen my resume, and he happened to be in a meeting. So I decided to get some information about the company online by googeing United American Insurance and found all this information and I mean ALL. I feel so bad for those who were victims of this. Obviously if he calls back there will not be an apt set.

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#4 Consumer Comment

interview

AUTHOR: Pad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 24, 2008

to mike and fate, you guys mentioned the words honesty and responsibillty. let me ask you guys something. a true responsable, honest insurance salesman when giving a presentation will disclose all aspects of the policy he is selling. what the policy PAYS for, meaning the LIMITS of the policy. and MOST important,,, what the policy will not pay for!!! if anyone sells the policy correctly i cant see how they would make enough money to survive. at one time years ago, i was a UA agent. when i first started i was shown how to sell the policys. i did NOT sell the way i was taught. i disclosed the limits of the policy.

i was doing very well, on track to win the trip the company pays for the top agents. but the more i learned after researching what the hospitals actually charged for certain procedures, the more i disclosed about the policy. the more i disclosed the less i sold. the only way i can see a agent can make a honest living selling the flex plans is to sell to people that cannot get major medical coverage due to health reasons. a healthy person can get a major medical policy for less money with almost any major med company out there.

i think the biggest kicker was when i was explaining the part about the outpatient services, on flex 50, i would disclose in my presentation,,, now the outpatient services pays 300 dollars, that includes, emergency room, physical theropy, cat scans, mri's, chemo, radiation, dialysis. i would also disclose how the scheduled surgery pays, NOT 100% of 7500, that the policy will only pay what is in the scedule of the policy. now i disclosed this information to the people i was presenting the policy to,,,, do you? to all UA agents reading this, are you honest enough and responsable enough to disclose this information???

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#3 UPDATE Employee

what a joke

AUTHOR: Mikehopkins12 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 21, 2008

This person is a complete moron. I work for the company currently and have for the last 3 years. It is the best opportunity I have ever had. It is true not everyone makes it in this arena, but of course that is the case it is sales.... I find it hard to believe you made it to a branch manager position since they all make great money someone would be crazy to not stay. This individual is most likely a bitter person, because they were caught being dishonest and let go by the company so the only way to get back is to file a report here. Hate to tell you every company in America is probably on this site, for the same reason. Grow up and get a life I suggest you stop being so bitter.

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

YOU WERE THE MANAGER

AUTHOR: Fate - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, April 14, 2008

Anyone who applies to any position, at any company should now it may not be the last stop on the train. As far as the last posting with concerns of failure, and agent retention from Indiana, this sounds more like your fault as the leader. I have been with U.A for over 10 years, and I to was a agent, unit manager, and branch manager, and yea with the Tshirt. The company has set guidelines for the offices, however. Not all offices have done this. If that structure didnt work for you. Why would you not take action. buy different leads, or do smaller/more interveiw sessions. You were put in that position of leadership. Do you take ANY responsibility.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Interview process

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 13, 2008

So, it would seem that UA uses an "assembly line" approach in their recruiting ?

I read where 75 percent of a "unit manager's" time is supposed to be recruiting, and about 10 percen on actual sales and the other 15 percent on reports, paperwork etc. Is this accurate ?

What is UA's position on retention ?

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