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Complaint Review: Von Waldberg German Shepherds - Snohomish Washington

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I bought a 3 month old puppy from Von Waldberg in December 2013.  Puppy was advertised to have the best of lineage and ancestry.  Paid $4,000 plus tax for it.  3 months later, in April 2014, puppy was diagnosed with Panosteitis and vets suspected elbow dysplasia and recommended additional x-rays.  Vets also said that puppies with Panosteitis are predisposed to other orthopedic problems in the future.  

I contacted the seller, Phil Skoog from Von Waldberg, and he said it was a bunch of bullshit from the vets that puppy has elbow dysplasia.  He said they only want my money for more x-rays for nothing, and Phil Skoog convinced me that there is no  way puppy has dysplasia.  At the time I thought Phil Skoog was an honorable man, who genuinely cared for the dog and my family.  I was so wrong.  

Puppy started to limp heavily again in May 2015, so I spent the extra money to do an extensive study on his elbows, and again, he was diagnosed with dysplasia in both elbows, no doubt.  I went back to the breeder/importer Phil Skoog, and this time he acknowledged the diagnosis, but didn't agree with the vet that this is an inherited disease.  Phil Skoog insisted that my puppy was fed poor diet and had experienced trauma that caused him the elbow dysplasia.  He wouldn't accept the fact that dysplasia is a polygenetic inherited disease.

So, now I am stuck with a puppy, 18 months old, who can run and play fetch, who can't go for walks more than 10 minutes long.  

Stay away from this scammer.  He imports and breeds puppies, but doesn't care about their health and well-being, and this will only leave you not only with an empty wallet, but will break your heart to have a young, beautiful animal that can't act like a happy pup.

I am suing him in court.  

Beware of Phil Skoog, Kimberly Brown, and Von Waldberg German Shepherds.

 

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Kim at Von Waldberg is deleting Facebook reviews

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POSTED: Saturday, April 01, 2017
Kim Brown at Von Waldberg German Shepherds is deleting unfavorable Facebook reviews, so I am posting here what she deleted:
 
Have you read their latest Guarantee? For a breeder that supposedly, in their own words, offers the best dogs, they have increased the protection about themselves, having no liability, making it harder to sue them, and offer you, the buyer, even less protection. This Guarantee is more to guarantee exemption of any responsibility for Kim and Phil, a Guarantee that you, the buyer, don't come after them if something goes wrong after you have paid many thousands of dollars for this purchase. Is this what people who truly love to be breeders do? Kim and Phil are all about the money. By the way, this change in their Guarantee came after I sued them. They got scared, and they have upped their defenses.  
Don't fool yourself when they try to justify their exorbitant prices, the pay off being a healthy dog, that won't break your wallet and your heart. Look at their yet again revised guarantees. There is a huge portion for the buyer to acknowledge, but do you see any responsibilities from Kim's and Phil's side? In their advertising, they say they offer the best dogs, kkl1a, selectively bred for the best litters, etc.--however, in their guarantee they say they offer no guarantee for inherited, polygenetic diseases, or congenital diseases, such as cancer and auto-immune diseases or birth deformities such as over-bites, missing toes, tails not growing to their fullest length, etc, and who knows what else. If there is a bigger contradiction between advertising and a contract/guarantee, then I would like to see it.  
Look, when you breed puppies, or anything else, things are bound to go wrong, but it is how you handle them, as a breeder. A responsible breeder will acknowledge the disease, defect, etc. and reimburse you in some way, a new puppy, while keeping the existing dog, or financial reimbursement. A responsible breeder won't force you to choose between a sick dog that you have formed a bond with, and a new, replacement puppy. A responsible breeder will actually pay attention to what dogs are bred to reduce abnormalities and diseases, not just say it in words. A responsible breeder won't blame you, the buyer, with the same repeated, pre-recorded words to every dissatisfied buyer that, that it was your fault for feeding your pup bad food, or make up a story how your vet is inexperienced. Because, this is what I have heard from every burned customer of Kim's, it is always the same--you fed your dog bad food, you over-excersised him at the tender age of 3-4 months, you have an inexperienced vet, and your pup miraculously got multiple types of intestinal parasites within hours of entering YOUR home.  
When you go buy a Mercedes, you pay major money, but they also guarantee everything about it for 3 years. Not with Kim and Phil--if you are one of the unlucky ones, you will know something is seriously wrong with your puppy by the time it is 7-8 months old, and you will be stuck with it. They are all talk on how they offer superb lineage and healthy dogs, but they won't stand behind it when they sell you a sick dog--whether it is heart murmur, or cancer, or an auto immune disease, or hip/elbow dysplasia, or intestinal parasites. The only guarantee they offer is against dysplasia, but please, keep reading and you will see how eager they are to actually go through with their only one offered Guarantee.  
My opinion is that they aren't as selective in their breeding/importing as they want you to think. The dissatisfaction rating is pretty high, when you compare it to the satisfied ratings.  
I received the pink birth certificate 3 months after the purchase. Only then I was able to see the mish-mash of "passing", "good", or "excellent" hips/elbows of the parents and grandparents are. And just so you know, "passing" isn't a good rating at all, it means the dog has dysplasia, only in a mild form. And some of the grand parents, or grand grand parents weren't even tested for elbow dysplasia. So, you get this info way too late, because by that time Phil and Kim have cashed your check, and they won't give it back. This is how I found out the explanation on why my pup has dysplasia, it was all in the pink certificate. His lineage of so called "excellent, healthy, VA rated" dogs was a lie. One third of his lineage had "passing" elbows. And he didn't have the advertised number of VA parents, either. It was intentionally, falsely advertised to generate a sale.
And when it comes to hip and elbow dysplasia, get ready to hear the most ridiculous excuses--how you, the owner, fed him bad food, how your vet is inexperienced, how you supposedly over-excersiced your 4 month old pup. According to Kim and Phil, the above mentioned factors are what cause dysplasia, not bad breeding and genetics. They argued my vet's diagnosis with the most outlandish lies. At the time of the purchase, they promised me the world, how they would replace the puppy if it gets dysplasia, how they would let me keep the sick puppy and give me another one as a compensation--all lies, until they got my check. 
Also, on their web page they guarantee the dog against dysplasia for up to 2 years. On the purchase contract they gave me to sign, it said 1 year. Isn't this one of the most telling examples of how greedy and sale-oriented they are? 
Bought a puppy at 3 months of age, for a premium price of 4,000 plus tax. Puppy was advertised to be of superior lineage. At 6 months of age puppy was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia. Initially, he started limping so badly, I had him x-rayed, and the diagnosis came up. Contacted Phil Skoog and Kim, and they said that to them it wasn't a definitive diagnosis, it was just a bunch of garbage, that the vets just want my money, and advised me not to spend my money on more x-rays as suggested by the vets.  
One year later, the limping never went away, dog had better and worse days, but always had a limp. I decided to spend the money and have him extensively x-rayed, and the diagnosis came the same...severe elbow dysplasia. To this, Kim Brown and Phil Skoog said that it isn't a genetic disease, but was caused by me feeding him improper diet and causing him physical trauma.  
Even though the vet surgeon specifically indicated in the diagnosis that this is a polygenetic inherited disease, Phil Skoog and Kim act like they know better, and refuse to acknowledge the irresponsible breeding of sick dogs. They claim to be a "breeder of distinction", but they refuse to stand by the puppies they sell.  
Now, we have a 20-month old dog who can run, can't play with the kids, and is painful to watch him like this every day.  
If you type "von waldberg reviews" and "von waldberg complaints" you will see a many complaints against them. One of the unlucky customers was shipped a pup with an overbite, and they didn't even disclose it to him until after the sale. When he talked to the daughter, Kim, she told him that the pup will outgrow it--what a complete garbage--how do you outgrow a congenital deformation? Now the pup has a lifetime of serious dental problems, but at Von Waldberg they don't care. Whether it is hip or elbow dysplasia, heart murmur, cancer, intestinal parasites, etc., they won't do anything about it. They sold a puppy with cancer, knowing that the puppy was sick, saying it was just the runt of the litter and it would grow stronger, and left the owner to deal with the emotional and financial toll. Look at the online reviews.
The problem is that even if you sue them, you may not get justice. I sued them in small claims court. Kim and Phil countersued me for income lost for speaking about my experiences online-can you believe the nerve? Listen to this, and see how the court system works, if you are unlucky and get the kind of judge who just wants to close the case. I had medical statements from 2 vets, one of whom is a Veterinary Orthopedic Surgeon, about the dysplasia and the intestinal parasites. Kim and Phil only had internet print-outs about the medical issues. Kim said she tests the puppies herself for intestinal parasites, and even though she isn't a medical professional, she claims the puppies are parasite-free. This is in direct contradiction to the licensed vets statements--the puppy is laden with parasites, and has dysplasia. The judge actually nodded off during Phil's testimony. Yes, he was napping. Unfortunately, the judge clearly would rather be somewhere else than at the court room. At the end, he said that he is dismissing the case against Kim and Phil. He also dismissed Kim's and Phil's counter suit against me about speaking about the truth to online forums. They can't threaten any of us not to talk about their deliberate scams. So, keep talking and sharing. But you know, the judicial system can be very broken when a verbal statement and an internet print-out can overpower the licensed veterinarians' diagnosis of 2 medical professionals.  
Don't get your heart broken with these dishonest people. In the recent past they have sold puppies with heart murmur, cancer, and dysplasia, also with multiple types of intestinal parasites. The heart murmur, cancer, and intestinal parasites by the way can be detected right away by your own veterinarian, the dysplasia shows up at about 4-5 months of age. So, this means that if what Kim and Phil say is true that all their puppies are well-checked by a veterinarian before they are sold, then they should know this before they sell the puppies. But they don't disclose this information to you, the customer. So, they either don't have the puppies checked before selling them, or if they truly do, then they choose not to disclose any health issues with the buyer. I have done an extensive research on Kim and Phil's business practices. I have spoken to numerous burned customers, and historically, they have not refunded anyone, including me, for the sale of sick puppies. They just want your money.
 
Baine Thorn What was the court outcome?
Dessi Armstrong
 
Dessi Armstrong Judge had no knowledge whatsoever about the breeding/pedigree process. I was very explanatory, making things simple for him to understand. I had medical diagnosis for his parasites and dysplasia from third party veterinarians, but Phil Skoog and Kimberly were so deceitful and confusing to him, throwing in completely irrelevant information and lies, that he simply didn't know whom to believe--my medical statements or their verbal assurances. Also, at first, judge didn't allow other signed testimonies into evidence, then judge changed his mind, and allowed the written testimony of other unlucky customers to be entered into evidence, but he didn't call the provided phone numbers and talk to the people about their miserable, painful experiences with Phil and Kim. Judge simply dismissed the case. It is one of those examples of our judicial systems that makes you lose faith. Also, judge looked at contract I signed which said "guarantee up to 1 year", which by the way, was falsely amended without my knowledge for me to sign, from the "sales guarantee" that you see on their webpage which says "guarantee up to 2 years". They lure you in with a 2 year guarantee, then you don't notice the small difference and sign a contract that says 1 year guarantee. But what does it matter, when they don't honor anything anyway. So, the judge had to stick with what I had signed--"1 year guarantee", even though this entire time I was under the impression I had the "2 year guarantee", as they have it on their website. They counter sued me for speaking my mind, and the judge dismissed their claim, too. It's one of those cases where you have iron-clad evidence from medical professionals in writing, but judge chose to believe their verbal statements, instead. Shocking. They got away with murder, and so did O.J. Simpson. Fate doesn't allow for such unlawful, deceitful behavior to go on forever. Phil Skoog's day will come, too. If you don't want problems with suck puppies, and ridiculous excuses from Phil and Kimberly, stay away from them.
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Baine Thorn
 
Baine Thorn Thank you for the response, and we are terribly sorry about the outcome. Are there any trustworthy breeders?
Von Waldberg German Shepherds
 
Von Waldberg German Shepherds Baine Thorn- We worked very hard to work with Dessi Armstrong with both her first and second dog from us. We honor our word and we honor our guarantee. We worked very hard to resolve Dessi's concerns and issues with her however while we were working with her, she pursued the BBB and the Attorney Generals office. Both the BBB and the ATG's office immediately closed the case. Normally they go through a mediation process first, however they did not. The ATG's office also has the ability to pursue further action if claims are founded. They did not. They closed it. The court case was dismissed on all fronts. The judge was a very wise, intelligent individual who actually took extensive time reviewing all sides and all information. The case was dismissed. We work very hard to produce healthy dog and to educate our customers. It is very unfortunate the Dessi Armstrong has gone through this with her dog but you are only hearing one side. There are two sides to every story. I would challenge you to look at all our reviews. We work very hard to have the best Shepherds possible and work very hard with our customers through the life of their dogs to help them be successful. Unfortunately, no matter how hard you try, you can not please everyone.
Dessi Armstrong
 
Dessi Armstrong Yes, in the process I found one. I spoke with almost every breeder in Oregon and Washington when I was gathering info in Phil and Kim. She cares about the puppies and what kind of home they go to. I think it is called Flood Farms German Shepherds, or something like that. I'm out of town now...I can get back to you with the name in a couple of weeks. She is in Washington state. Her contract lays it out openly, that if the pup develops dysplasia, she wants you to return it to her so that she can find a good home for the pup. When you breed/import pups, it is a matter of statistics before you end up with a sick pup. However, the important part is whether the breeder wants to help you and the pup, or whether he will tell you that it is your fault and ignore you after you have spent thousands on the purchase. If you type " Von Waldberg complaints", you will read all sort of atrocities, how they don't want to have nothing to do with you if the pup shows up a congenital defect or genetic diseases. By the way, the breeders know each other from going to dig shows and competitions....not a single breeder had anything good to say about Phil. They don't respect him, they all said he does it for the money, (what s surprise based on my experience) and they have seen him kick his dogs in anger when they don't perform as expected at competitions. Look up Flood Farms German Shepherds. i can give you her name and phone number when i come back. good luck
Dessi Armstrong
 
Dessi Armstrong When Phil and Kim say: "we worked very hard at resolving the issues" you should read: "over the course of an entire year, we lied extensively to Dessi, how there was no way that her puppy's limping is due to dysplasia, although her vet had strong suspicions about it, that she shouldn't waste her money on additional tests, but when she went ahead and did additional diagnostics confirming the dysplasia, we told her that she fed her puppy bad food and/or caused the dysplasia herself, and we put the blame not only on her, but blamed her 2 vets to be inexperienced and wanting of her money only, and if this isn't enough, we beat around the bush every time Dessi wanted a partial refund and medical bills paid by us". This is how Phil and Kim "work very hard" with their customers. If they worked so hard at resolving the problem, we wouldn't be still talking about it. Their idea of "resolving the problem" , --which they revealed only at the court mediation, not a day before--was to sell me another puppy at half price. Are they crazy to expect me to buy yet another dog from them? By the way, the Washington Attorney General hasn't closed the case. It is still very much open and active.
Bob Roth
 
Bob Roth I can't say one way or another as I have not purchased from here yet... But as a busseness owner my self I would think the best way to address the issue would be get the puppy returned and return the money collected. As I'm sure you spend well over that in advertising alone to gain new customers. Rather then having name slandered... Plus it's just good business. And cheeper in the long run. I hope you both can work this out.
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Von Waldberg German Shepherds
 
Von Waldberg German Shepherds Bob Roth- Thank you for sharing your perspective. There are two sides to every story. We spent significant time and energy working with Mrs. Armstrong both through the purchase of her first dog and through the purchase and first year and a half of her second dog, who is now 27 months old. We work very hard to work with our customers and are very sad that we were not able to resolve things with her, despite our best efforts. I will not discuss or disclose details on social media and I appreciate your respect of that. Kimberly Brown
Dessi Armstrong
 
Dessi Armstrong There are two sides to each story-- but the truth is always only ONE. 
The only truth is the one, which is supported by third-party independent specialized vets, who specialize in orthopedic and other issues, and not by Kimberly's and Phil's own intern
et research (they really think they can become veterinarians by taking bits and pieces out of context, out of whatever article they run into, and contradict and argue the diagnosis from your Vet Specialist), or their family vet, who for the most part administers vaccines, and has no training for any specific complicated issues, and where Von Waldberg is the biggest customer with all of their dogs--anyone see conflict of interest?
Beware of Phil's and Kimberly's comments on how "sad" they are that they couldn't help resolve the multiple issues with the pup I was sold. The only thing they are "sad" about is that word is getting out on the quality of the puppies they sell-- both health and pedigree related. That's why they sued me to keep me quiet. Did they really think they could mess with our right to speak? Judge ruled I had the right to continue to speak the truth.
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Von Waldberg changes their website content regular

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POSTED: Friday, February 05, 2016

One of Phil Skoog's and Kim's reasons for denying me a refund for the elbow dysplasia was that I had caused my pup an injury, voluntarily or involuntarily.  Well, since this is complete garbage, in addition to the veterinary statement that this dysplasia is genetic and not caused by injury, I provided them with a copy of another breeder's Guarantee. Their name is Flood Farm German Shepherds.  In their guarantee they specified that the dysplasia must be present in both elbows, or both hips, in order to qualify for a dysplasia, the genetic disease, and not an injury, which may occur only in one of the joints.  Well, my pup was diagnosed with dysplasia in both elbows, and at the court hearing I provided this Guarantee to the court to have yet another proof that this isn't an injury--the dysplasia is in both elbows, not only one.  

Here is what the sneaky Phil Skoog and his daughter Kim did--they copied that statement on how the dysplasia must be present in both joints, and not only one in order to be considered genetic dysplasia.  They certainly didn't do it to refund me, but to make it even more difficult for you, the new buyer.  

They change their website content to suit their own purpose, so if you have seen a promise or a statement about the health of the dogs, you may not find it at a later date.  For example, if you bought a pup under their PREVIOUS Guarantee, where it doesn't say anything about the dysplasia being present in both joints, they will pull up their NEW Guarantee, and will claim your puppy was just injured.  

Look at my case, they had no substantiation that my pup was injured, vs. the Vet's statament that it is a genetic disease, and they still claimed that it was an injury.  And yet, they steal the statement from Flood Farm German Shepherds, and contradict themselves that the dysplasia must be present in both joints.  If they take this statement to be correct, how come they still refused to refund me, when my pup is suffering with dysplasia in both elbows?  They are liars.  Please, see the attached documents as proof on how they modify their website about guarantees, and leaves you, the buyer, at risk.

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Fraudulent contract they made me sign

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POSTED: Friday, December 18, 2015

Here is a copy of the contract they made me sign at the time of purchase.  You will see that it says it guarantees dog's hips for up to 1 year of age.  Compare it to the "sales" guarantee I looked up when deciding to buy from Von Waldberg.  It says they guarantee hips up to 2 years of age.  I have posted that "sales" guarantee as well.  Who would want to give their money to such scammers.

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BEWARE OF VON WALDBERG'S GUARANTEES

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POSTED: Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Von Waldberg’s deceit can very clearly be seen when comparing the Guarantee they had posted on the website at the time I purchased my pup in December 2013.  Please, note they have the guarantee posted on the website, but the Guarantee you sign, has different wording.  This is fraud.  The Guarantee on their website, the one that you don’t sign, but serves as a sales call to potential customers says that they will guarantee a dog against a hip dysplasia up to 2 years of age.  On the Guarantee they printed for me to sign, the wording is different— it says they would cover a dog against hip dysplasia up to 1 year of age.

So, all this time you think that you are covered up to 2 years of age, but comes time to complain, they pull out the guarantee that you signed—they cover it up to 1 year of age.  What they do is they bring you the puppy to hold, while they print out the documents to sign.  So, while you are melting with joy, holding a sweet, little, furry bundle, who will read the Guarantee again, you know you have read it over and over prior to the purchase.  This is how they get you.  This is how I lost at small claims court when I sued them for avoiding responsibility for the elbow dysplasia, the judge looked at the document I signed saying “up to 1 year”, not the Guarantee that serves as a sales call that boasts “up to 2 years of age”.

Phil Skoog and daughter have repeatedly coerced me into not talking about my experience with him, and his daughter Kimberly Brown. This is unethical and illegal.  As a matter of fact they sued me for defamation of character, as they had implied in their threats.  The judge dismissed their claim. I am free to talk about what liars, and greedy individuals they are.

He has also used coercion on other customers and extortion to another customer, according to whose BBB report, says that Phil Skoog threatened to nullify his guarantee, if the customer approached the BBB.  You can read it on BBB website. 

THEY CHANGE THEIR WEBSITE CONTENT TO AVOID LIABILITY:

 I clearly remember, while researching Von Waldberg’s website reading that they “guarantee the dogs they sell to pass OFA at age of 2”.  (OFA is the premier medical organization that certifies hips and elbows and clears the dog for breeding purposes.)  Well, my dog certainly can’t be OFA certified, because he was already diagnosed with elbow dysplasia.  Dysplasia doesn’t go away, it is there to stay and get worse.  This is a deceptive promise and assurance, because they didn’t stand by it when I contacted them with Flip/Finley’s elbow dysplasia.  Currently, you can’t find this statement anywhere on their website, but only in complaints of other people, such as that one customer's complaint to the BBB from Oct. 2013.

The reason that the guarantee that the dogs they sell will pass OFA is important is because it shows dedication from the breeder that they will replace any sick dogs.  Customers who pay thousands of dollars for a puppy want to know that their dogs are bred responsibly and will be healthy and guaranteed and replaced if needed.

I also remember reading on the website that they will exchange a puppy if it develops elbow dysplasia AND that they would guarantee against any genetic disorder that affects the longevity of the dog.  None of these statement can be found on the website, only in their response to BBB to that customer.  

I believe Von Waldberg changes their website content to deny any claims about sick dogs.  I believe that they put these promises on the website to attract more buyers, but intentionally kept them off their CONTRACT/GUARANTEE that you actually sign, and people believed in Von Waldberg’s intentions, they believed them, just like I did.  That is until people started complaining and calling them up on health issues, they removed the web content with the promises.  I can’t prove what I saw on their website, as far as promises and guarantees, but my only proof is that other people have seen the same, and Phil Skoog and Kimberly Brown actually acknowledged it in their BBB response dated October 2013.  Changing their website content in order to cover up and avoid responsibility is unethical, deceptive, and illegal.

Now my pup has been diagnosed with Elbow Dysplasia since 6 months of age, and Von Waldberg has refused to fulfill the promises that were written on website and their verbal promises.  So, I can’t use the very same guarantees that convinced me in buying from them in court to sue them for not fulfilling their promise to replace a pup with elbow dysplasia or genetic disease that affects the life span of the dog, because those very statements were removed.

Since I sued them in the small claims court in October, 2015, Phil Skoog and daughter have changed their website content, yet again.  They have added wording that is supposed to protect them as sellers, such as “dysplasia must be present in both hips, which is indicative of dysplasia and not an injury.”  My dog’s both elbows were diagnosed with dysplasia Exhibit 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 , and yet they continue to argue that it is conditional, and injury caused by me, and not genetic Exhibit 16.

Also, they in their "new" guarantee, they have added a new statement to protect themselves saying that they “don’t guarantee that any puppy or dog to be free from cosmetic flaws”.  They added this after a woman in Kansas complained about receiving a puppy with a missing toe, among other health problems. 

Don't deal with these greedy individuals.  I can't even call them humans.

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STAY AWAY FROM VON WALDBERG GERMAN SHEPHERDS

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POSTED: Sunday, November 01, 2015

ATTENTION!!!  READ BEFORE YOU BUY.  

I felt that Phil Skoog and daughter Kimberly Brown are part-time breeders and a full-time salesmen for other breeders' puppies. They offer false advertising on the quality and the health of the puppies, just to make a sale.  In addition, they promised me they would replace the puppy if it gets elbow or hip dysplasia. 

My pup was advertised to be of superior lineage, with a certain father and a certain mother.  As you may know, you have to go by Skoog and daughter’s word, because you don’t get the birth pink papers at the time of purchase, you receive it in the mail months later.  So, months later, when I got the pink birth papers, it listed a completely different father than what was advertised.  In the world of selective breeding, this is super important.  Also, the pup was advertised to have both mother and father certified as “VA” rating, the highest achievable award, and not only that, but with 8 grandparents in the first 3 generations, something they claimed in the advertisement to be very rare.  When I received the pink papers, months after the purchase, it indicated that only the father has a “VA” rating, not both mother and father as advertised, and only 5 grandparents in the first 3 generations had “VA” ratings, not 8.  The reason they priced the puppy at $4,500 was for that supposed “superior” lineage, which turned out to be a lie.  Beware of their advertisements, they are false, and by the time you find out, they won’t refund your money, or adjust the sale price.

The pup they sold me was claimed per their sales guarantee to be healthy at the time of purchase.  I took the pup straight to the vet for a well-exam check up, a stool sample was provided, and pup was diagnosed with intestinal parasites Coccidia and Giardia.  It took 6 months of repetitive, back to back treatment for the pup to get healthy again, while putting me and my children at health risk.  When I contacted them, Kimberly Brown said the puppy got infected from my yard-an obnoxious lie, because my previous dogs from 2 years ago, had never had intestinal parasites, and I had taken the pup straight to the vet for an exam.  By the way, a common  denominator among all complaints on the internet is that people get pups with Coccidia and Giardia, customers are blamed for whatever the health problem is, and Skoog and daughter blame the vets for not being competent.

Also, at the time of purchase, I specifically inquired about them guaranteeing agains elbow dysplasia, because in the contract it only mentioned hip dysplasia.  I was ASSURED that they cover not only elbow dysplasia, but any genetic disease that affects the life longevity of the dog.  Only 3 months after the purchase, at 6 months of age, puppy was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia.  Initially, he started limping so badly, I had him x-rayed, and the diagnosis came up.  Contacted Phil Skoog, the owner, and he said that it wasn't a definitive diagnosis, it was just a bunch of garbage, that my vet is young and inexperienced, that they just want my money, and advised me not to spend my money on more x-rays as suggested by the vets.  I made the mistake to believe him.

At a later date, I decided to have his elbows x-rayed, and the diagnosis came the same...severe elbow dysplasia.  To this, Phil Skoog said that it isn't a genetic disease, but was caused by improper diet and trauma.  

Even though the vet surgeon specifically indicated in the diagnosis that this is a polygenetic inherited disease, Phil Skoog acts like he knows better, and refuses to acknowledge that he knowingly imports pus of lesser quality and health. He claims to be a "breeder of distinction", but he refuses to stand by the product he sells.  

Now, we have a 2 yr old dog who can run, can't play with the kids, and is painful to watch him like this every day.  

If you type "von waldberg reviews" and "von waldberg complaints" you will see many complaints against them.  One of the unlucky customers was given a dog with an overbite, and they didn't even disclose it to him until after the sale.  When he talked to the daughter, Kim, she told him that the pup will outgrow it--what a complete garbage--how do you outgrow a genetic disease or a congenital defect?  They will say anything to get you off their back.  Now the pup has a lifetime of serious dental problems, but at Von Waldberg they don't care.  Whether it is hip or elbow dysplasia, or other serious diseases, they won't do anything about it.  What about the woman who bought a pup that was guaranteed to be healthy and of good quality-A quality KK1a (highly preferred-no faults) puppy. The puppy she got is missing a toe, has umbilical hernia, and has bad hips and elbows.  What about the puppy they knew was sick, but sold him anyway to a customer, saying that it couldn’t walk properly because she is the runt of the litter, and doesn’t get to eat as much, but when she goes to a home, she will get better.  That puppy was shortly after diagnosed with bone cancer, and Skoog and daughter refused the test findings.  There are countless more examples. Look at the complaints at the BBB, but don't look at the BBB rating.  It doesn't reflect the truth.

Phil Skoog and his daughter Kim Brown say that they tried to work very hard to resolve the issue.  However, the fact is that they haven't offered to resolve anything. I sued them in court in October 2015. Unfortunately, Phil Skoog and Kimberly Brown got away with murder--so did O.J. Simpson.  Because of the many lies Skoog and daughter threw at the judge, the judge didn’t realize the importance of the advertised lineage, vs. the lineage in reality. Also, because their assurance of guaranteeing against elbow dysplasia wasn't in writing, and at the court hearing they backed out of what they had assured and promised, the judge stuck with what was in the contract.

Also, they tried to scare me into not leaving a bad review, because they would sue me for defamation of character.  I told them, that when it is true and factual, it isn’t a defamation.  When I served them with court papers for the suit, they counter-sued me for defamation of character and loss of income.  The judge dismissed the case.  The judge confirmed that it is my constitutional right to speak my opinion.  If they choose to run a business based on lies and deceit, then these are the consequences.  Don’t let them bully you and scare you into not sharing your painful experience with Von Waldberg.  They claim that the Attorney General's office and the BBB closed the complaints right away...the truth is that their job is to mediate...they don't rule for or against.  For Von Waldberg to claim that it was ruled in their favor is another bold lie.

If you happen to decide to risk your thousands of dollars with Phil Skoog and Kimberly Brown, read the Contract and the Guarantee, and rest assured that they will not honor anything above and beyond it.  As a matter of fact you may be certain that what they advertised that you will get will not be so.  I went in person to their kennel to get my pup, and it still wasn’t enough to protect me against their false advertising.  If you have your pup shipped to you, you are even at a bigger disadvantage. They will promise you whatever you want to hear to close the sale, but be certain they won't honor it when the time comes for them to stand by their word.

Don't get your heart broken with these dishonest people.  They just want your money.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT ME, MESSAGE ME OR FRIEND ME ON FACEBOOK.  LOOK ME UP UNDER DESSI A. IN VANCOVER, WA.

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Don't Buy From Von Waldberg German Shepherds

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POSTED: Saturday, October 31, 2015

ATTENTION!!! READ BEFORE YOU BUY.
I felt that Phil Skoog and daughter Kimberly Brown are part-time breeders and a full-time salesmen for other breeders' puppies. They don't care about the puppies, only are interested in making a sale. They promised me they would replace the puppy if it gets elbow or hip dysplasia.
Bought a puppy at 3 months of age, for a premium price of 4,000 plus tax. Puppy was advertised to be of superior lineage. At 6 months of age puppy was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia. Initially, he started limping so badly, I had him x-rayed, and the diagnosis came up. Contacted Phil Skoog, the owner, and he said that it wasn't a definitive diagnosis, it was just a bunch of garbage, that my vet is young and inexperience, that they just want my money, and advised me not to spend my money on more x-rays as suggested by the vets. I made the mistake to believe him.
One year later, the limping never went away, dog had better and worse days, but always had a limp. I decided to spend the money and have him extensively x-rayed, and the diagnosis came the same...severe elbow dysplasia. To this, Phil Skoog said that it isn't a genetic disease, but was caused by improper diet and trauma.
Even though the vet surgeon specifically indicated in the diagnosis that this is a polygenetic inherited disease, Phil Skoog acts like he knows better, and refuses to acknowledge that he has no idea what puppies are being sent to him from Germany. He claims to be a "breeder of distinction", but he refuses to stand by the product he sells.
Now, we have a 20month old dog who can run, can't play with the kids, and is painful to watch him like this every day.
If you type "von waldberg reviews" and "von waldberg complaints" you will see many complaints against them. One of the unlucky customers was given a dog with an overbite, and they didn't even disclose it to him until after the sale. When he talked to the daughter, Kim, she told him that the pup will outgrow it--what a complete garbage--how do you outgrow a genetic disease or a congenital defect? They will say anything to get you off their back. Now the pup has a lifetime of serious dental problems, but at Von Waldberg they don't care. Whether it is hip or elbow dysplasia, or other serious diseases, they won't do anything about it. Look at the complaints at the BBB, but don't look at the BBB rating. It doesn't reflect the truth.
Phil Skoog and his daughter Kim Brown say that they tried to work very hard to resolve the issue. However, the fact is that they haven't offered to resolve anything--in fact they keep running around the bush, claiming that I contributed to the dysplasia through bad diet and trauma to the puppy. They claim that the Attorney General's office and the BBB closed the complaints right away...the truth is that their job is to hear out both sides...they don't rule for or against. For Von Waldberg to claim that it was ruled in their favor is another bold lie. I sued them in court in October 2015. Unfortunately, Phil Skoog and Kimberly Brown got away with murder--so did O.J. Simpson. What happened is that when I bought the pup, the contract said that they would guarantee against hip dysplasia, it didn't mention an elbow dysplasia guarantee. So, I specifically asked whether they would guarantee against elbow dysplasia. I was ASSURED that they would, that they stand behind the dogs they sell, that they guarantee against any genetic disease. Well, it wasn't in writing, and at the court hearing they backed out of what they had assured and promised, and the judge stuck with what was in the contract. If you happen to decide to risk your thousands of dollars with Phil Skoog and Kimberly Brown, read the Contract and the Guarantee, and rest assured that they will not honor anything above and beyond it. They will promise you whatever you want to hear to close the sale, but be certain they won't honor it when the time comes for them to stand by their word.
Don't get your heart broken with these dishonest people. They just want your money.  If you need to contact me, look me up on Facebook under Dessi A. in Vancouver, WA and message me.

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Please, contact me.

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POSTED: Friday, October 16, 2015

Hello JoAnn,

Please, contact me with your experience.  I can still provide a verbal delivery of what happened to you.  

Regards,

Dessi A.

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time is running out

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POSTED: Friday, October 09, 2015

Hello JoAnn, 

I need to get your report by October 10th, in order to send it out on time for the court proceedings.  If I get it later, it may not be allowed as evidence in court.  Please, contact me asap.  We can do this.

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contact me please

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POSTED: Wednesday, October 07, 2015

Please, ask to be a "friend" on Facebook.  Search for Dessi in Vancouver, WA

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Von waldberg German shepherds

AUTHOR: JoAnn - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 07, 2015

Would like to contact you about your problem and lawsuits. We have a similar problem. Two would be more convincing and the truth will come out.

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