Ripoff Report Needs Your Help!
X  |  CLOSE
Report: #4473

Complaint Review: Wall Street Underground - Kansas City Kansas

  • Submitted:
  • Updated:
  • Reported By: Tempe Arizona
  • Author Confirmed What's this?
  • Why?
  • Wall Street Underground 1144 Booth Kansas City, Kansas U.S.A.
  • Phone: 1-800-358-0623, Fax: 1-91
  • Web:
  • Category: Media

Show customers why they should trust your business over your competitors...

Is this
Report about YOU
listed on other sites?
Those sites steal
Ripoff Report's
content.
We can get those
removed for you!
Find out more here.
How to fix
Ripoff Report
If your business is
willing to make a
commitment to
customer satisfaction
Click here now..

A Letter sent to the Attorney General's Office:

Attorney GeneralState Of New Hampshire 33 Capitol StreetConcord, NH 03301-6397Dear Harold: I am Alan Grochowski son of Eugene Grochowski. My Dad is 83 years of age and I am taking action against the company below for him. I am filing this complaint against: The Wall Street Underground, 1144 Booth, Kansas City, KS 66103, Tel: 1-800-358-0623, Fax: 1-913-342-6444.Please review attached faxes sent to The Wall Street Underground for cancellation of membership.

I/we have called this company many times to cancel due to there incompetence of not forefilling there Unconditional Guarantee (see attached copy of a page from there sales letter). We have been demanding a full refund of $5000.00 that was sent to them back in June 2000. Our 1st cancellation notice was faxed on October 3, 2000, the same fax was faxed to them again 6 weeks later. The reason of the cancellation was because they where to send a pager with the membership. Till this day, Eugene has not received the pager as promised.Eugene has been ignored for going on 6 months. 4 plus months trying to get a refund.

Now that he has been ignored, he not only wants his full refund of $5000.00, but also interest on the $5000.00 for there incompetence. Furthermore, he would also like to obtain information from you inquiring the fact of FAULSE ADVERTISING. What must he do to prosecute on these grounds. Can you please help him on this matter.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/16/2001 12:00 AM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/wall-street-underground/kansas-city-kansas-66103/wall-street-underground-rip-offs-beware-fraud-false-advertising-rebuttal-4473. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

Search for additional reports

If you would like to see more Rip-off Reports on this company/individual, search here:

Report & Rebuttal
Respond to this report!
What's this?
Also a victim?
What's this?
Repair Your Reputation!
What's this?

Updates & Rebuttals

REBUTTALS & REPLIES:
0Author
5Consumer
0Employee/Owner

#5 Consumer Comment

Nick was right &..spoke the truth when the TV news comentators were lying through their teeth to you

AUTHOR: Bradley - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 07, 2004

I didn't sign up for the newsletters but I listened to the free broadcasts. Nick correctly predicted the stock market crash, the decline of the dollar, the rise in gold and the euro. Wow. Think about that for a minute.

It's too bad that it sounds from these complaints like the customer service could be a lot better, but I want to say that this guy spoke the truth when the TV news comentators were lying through their teeth to you. You probably should have followed his advice.

I only had a little money to invest, but Nick's advice made me some money on gold. About 30% in 2 years. Thanks Nick.

Respond to this report!
What's this?

#4 Consumer Comment

I trust Nick's insight

AUTHOR: Randy - ()

POSTED: Saturday, May 11, 2002

I was surprised to find people were unhappy with Nick's services, even more surprised that they were not refunded their money.

I, too, paid $5000 for his services back in 1999. I quickly lost about $20,000 in the stock indices. I had his fax service and received his recommendations via his web site. I also worked for the government and wasn't allowed to use the computer for personal business. At the time, I had no cell phone and was often traveling, with the radio as my only link to the stock market reports, and they were pretty poor indicators of how the stock futures were doing anyway. By the time I got home to read my faxes or fire up my computer, it was too late to take action on Nick's alerts. The market was closed.

Some of my losses were Nick's fault, he didn't count on the Fed jumping in to bail the market out and cause a rapid reversal. My being unable to follow the markets intraday or receive Nicks alerts was not his fault. When my years subscription ended, he continued it, and I still get it to this day. He made me some money, about $20k, last year on the Dow, and about $10k this year in oil, well, by the time I was able to exit the trades I gave up about half of my above profits due to the quick reversal and to my top-heavy buying. He suggests buying at each $10 or 100 point move, depending on the market, I couldn't afford that and had to wait until I could internally finance the trade with no out-of-pocket expense. If this makes no sense to you, you should not be trading! Had I really followed his advice, I would have made $100k on the Dow and $35k in oil.

Trading is a risky thing to do, Nick makes that perfectly clear, he says to never risk more than you can afford to lose. Nick goes for a moon shot, he doesn't do day trading, he just does long term fundamentals. People like me often get scared and exit too early, take a loss and hesitate to enter the market again. Any investor that has followed Nick's advice for the last year or so and really followed his recommendations on oil, gold, the stock indices and palladium has made a bundle of money.

Perhaps futures are too risky for you, Nick doesn't do the low dollar agricultural commodities. his forte is precious metals, indices, crude oil and a few of the currencies. If what you're looking for is a steady $60k per year, very limited losses and are capable of following the stuff intraday, or just setting your parameters with your broker in the morning, I'd strongly suggest Joe Duffy. Joe gives an excellent service that doesn't cost anywhere near $5k/yr. He only does stocks, no futures.

If you've got $50K to $100k to risk (I'm playing with around $20k) and want to turn it into a million or so, have a way of receiving fax alerts during the day, in my opionion, Nick is the best!

While everyone else was predicting gloom and doom over Y2K, (me included!) Nick was saying it would be no big deal. Nick has been right on most of his predictions, he has some pretty good connections. He may be rude and crude, but he tells it like it is!

Okay, if you added and subtracted right, you'd see that I have lost money since paying my $5,000 for eWSU. That's correct. I also lost money before I subscribed to eWSU. Commodity trading is not for the inexperienced. Experience takes a while, it's best to paper trade. I was too impatient. I didn't have enough money to maintain my positions as Nick advised, had to bail early, normally right when the turnaround happened that would have made me the money. Nick doesn't claim to hit the exact top and bottoms, that's impossible. All of the claims that he has made, he has made good on......I was just about $30k too poor to follow his advice. Had I started with $50k, I wouldn't have a money care in the world.

To those of you that are for some reason unhappy with eWSU and paid $5,000. I hope you get your money back...That was the promise...Those are the conditions that I originally paid my money for.

I'm still taking advantage of my eWSU subscription. With everything now doing very little in the markets, I want to be poised to jump in again as soon things start moving. Nick's taught me a lot, I'm starting to think more like a trader and have began to really trust Nick for his insights and recommendations.

Respond to this report!
What's this?

#3 Consumer Suggestion

Helpful info

AUTHOR: Dana - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, April 30, 2002

It sounds as if your dad has gotten into unfamiliar territory and needs the guidance of a competent broker to accompany Nick's recommendations. If he does not have this type of advisor, I would recommend that indeed he ask for a refund.

Call Nick's organization. I have spoken to them on several different occasions and have always received helpful advice. If they found themselves in the same situation with their parent, I am sure they would also expect a refund. Keep calling and allow them to do what it takes to keep the process moving forward. Good luck.

Respond to this report!
What's this?

#2 Consumer Comment

He Ripped Me Off Too

AUTHOR: Robert - ()

POSTED: Saturday, April 13, 2002

I subscribed to the Wall Street Underground believing his claim of a refund if not delighted. It only took one issue to realize it was a waste of paper with a issues every 2 months at best and primarily and advertisement for his $5K "service". Does any one get a refund from that either. He ripped me off for $170. I have been waiting for 10 months for my refund. Everytime I call they claim they will send it. It never comes.



Any suggestions?

Respond to this report!
What's this?

#1 0

Wall Street that con the people into investing their life saving

AUTHOR: - ()

POSTED: Friday, January 18, 2002

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: janetv@Toolkitmail.com

Their name: janet v bosley



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:



I Janet V Bosley submit that T.W.S.U.is not the one ripping off the people, but it is Wall Street that con the people into investing their life saving , today I sit at home because of no work,yesterday it was some other employees also today like myself other employees are sitting at home just waiting for our company to tell us we are going to be layed off hopefully I work I think today the company will deside who they will lay off, Sir, I think we are at the point of depression,but like Wall Street we wont be told untill we have nothing left for stock markets to take . I thank God for those that are bold enough to stand in the gap and try to wake up a people taking nap mist the war on our security.

Respond to this report!
What's this?
Featured Reports

Advertisers above have met our
strict standards for business conduct.

X
What do hackers,
questionable attorneys and
fake court orders have in common?
...Dishonest Reputation Management Investigates Reputation Repair
Free speech rights compromised

WATCH News
Segment Now