Complaint Review: Wunderland Cockers ACC'S Cockers - Ramsey Indiana
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- Wunderland Cockers ACC'S Cockers 6869 Maize Dr NW Ramsey, Indiana United States of America
- Phone: 812-981-7805 / 812-981-78
- Web: wunderlandcockers.webstarts.com/
- Category: Animal Abuse
Wunderland Cockers ACC'S Cockers Alice Gettelfinger / Alice Haycraft Gettelfinger Sells unsocialized dogs, doesn't give all AKC paperwork, slanders others breeders, lies, sells out from under you Ramsey, Indiana
*Consumer Comment: It's still going on
*Author of original report: It sadly continues...
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: NOW THIS IS ALICE OF WUNDERLAND COCKER
*Author of original report: LIES
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I TOO WAS TAKEN BY DNL COCKERS
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: BUFF GIRL AND ROAN
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Please read this entire post, as their is more than one situation that has occurred.
Stealing, lieing, possible animal abuse and the list goes on.
Alice emailed me to make a trade on a CH sired puppy from my kennel for a CH
Sired puppy out of her kennel.
We agreed to make the trade. She shipped her 7 month old puppy first. When I got her, she did have ear mites, but that is something that most breeders treat and don't make a big deal about. I treated her ears with mitaclear and moved on. I never mentioned this to Alice. I did however mention that this girl I received would not let anyone touch her. She said that she has had her for awhile now and doesn't know exactly why she acted this way. It took this little
girl 4 months to even let me touch her and she is still very skiddish. She still won't let anyone else touch her at all.
The picture below (blue roan cocker) is a picture of Dora in ALICE'S GROOMING SALON that Alice sent me . (Also, I had asked for a picture of her new CH male, and this is what she sent me! Can you believe this? IT SHOWS HIS RIBS! It does NOT look like she has cared for this dog! He is nothing but skin and bones.)
However, on the otherside, I told her at 3 weeks my puppy had a hernia and she never said anything. I emailed her again at 4 weeks and she replied to the email but never mentioned the hernia. I emailed her again at 5 weeks and she finally acknowledged the hernia and was ok with the situation. I told her I would hold the puppy and have the hernia fixed at 12 weeks and she didn't want to wait for the puppy. She wanted to sell her. I told her I would send her
another puppy from another litter. Again, she didn't want to wait. She wanted her puppy NOW.
I had the puppy examined by my vet and have a VET STATEMENT that my puppy was extremely healthy at the time of shipping. Of course, the only thing he didnotice was the hernia.
She texted me the night she picked her up and acted like she knew nothing about the hernia before I shipped the puppy. She said she was going to sue me until I showed her proof of emails that she had sent about the hernia before the puppy was shipped.
2 days later, she sent me a text saying that my puppy was extremely happy, she got along great, and she had her in a pen playing with her other puppies. About 1 week after that, another breeder emailed saying that Alice had told her that my puppy had unknowingly come to her with walking dandruff and a hernia. Alice had never mentioned the walking dandruff to me, so I was very confused. I emailed Alice asking about the situation and she was very irrate and wrote some very rude and insulting things in the email. Why would she put her with other puppies if she was in this condition? She would have been contagious and all of the other puppies would have been infected too. She did say she took her to the vet the next day and confirmed, so she would have knowingly put her with other
puppies that she could have possibly infected.
I was given written permission to change Dora's name, and Alice still refuses. When I finally let the situation go, I added Dora's name to my website "Wunderland's Impossible Mission" and Alice sent me a very rude email
telling me to take her Kennel name off my website NOW. I don't know what she expected. She refused to give permission to change her name to AKC, even though she had given me permission prior to this. It is the dog's name, so it shall be on the website.
I had previously offered to trade Alice a puppy for this puppy back and she refused, even with me paying shipping. I had also talked to her about trading an adult I had for sale, and she agreed, but wanted my dog and her papers
before she would consider trading. I was going to make the deal until I found out that she has posted a very inaccurate ripoff report against me and my kennel. I can't believe I was going to try to satisfy this woman.
When I talked to Alice on the phone yesterday, she told me that the puppy I sent her WOULD NOT come to her (now almost 5 months and Alice has had her since 8 weeks). This has me very concerned as puppies are extremely playful and typically love everyone that they are around, especially from such a young age when taken care of. I found an ad she has on Kijiji posting my puppy. I noticed that my puppy has used the restroom all over the grooming table. She looks terrified to me. In the second picture, you can't tell what was on the grooming table as they have used a photoshop program to cover it up with pink paint. (I have attached both pictures here too.)
(Alice seems to be really good at distoring images, as she has previously STOLE information from my website without permission and used it on her own. When I confronted her, she promptly removed it and denied it, but didn't realize that I could track the images pathfiles for proof.)
Lastly, I had bought a trio of adult dogs from her. I had sent her a payment through paypal AND paid for shipping. Alice received a better offer from another kennel. Alice did not tell me and SOLD all of the dogs to the other kennel without telling me.
WOULD YOU LIKE PROOF FOR ANY OF THIS?
E-Mail me, and I will get back with you with whatever you would like to know. DNL Kennel
And yes, she will more than likely add a picture to this with my dog shedding on her coat and have numerous excuses for each scenario. That is what she normally does is fill people with excuses. I have asked numerous times for VET PROOF, which she claims to have, but she has not sent it. She said she took her the day after shipment, which would have been a SUNDAY. Not sure about your vet, but my vet is not open on Sunday.
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#6 Consumer Comment
It's still going on
AUTHOR: Shelly - (United States)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 24, 2020
Alice Gettelfinger, Wunderland Cockers continues to lie, cheat, create fake RipOff Reports about people who try to speak out about her kennel and interactions with people and publish libelous statements on the internet.
Her kennel is a disgusting junk yard with dogs outside with no protection from the weather. She posts multiple litters at a time constantly breeding her females. She is not a show breeder like she claims. She is a backyard breeder, an unethical backyard breeder. Goggle her name and search for her here on RipOff Reports and on Facebook. You be the judge.
#5 Author of original report
It sadly continues...
AUTHOR: DNL Cockers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
If everything you say is true, please tell me why you have to post a fake review posing as another disatisfied customer?
You can post as many times as you would like. You have already been caught in your big mess of lies, and YES YOU DID TELL ME YOU POSTED AGAINST BO! (caught again) I have an email for proof, another lie. (Have email for proof if anyone needs it.)
She says:
"I did put Bo on here but not Daisy . "
Also, fellow breeders, please read her comments to me in emails written today (This did not seem fully personal to me, but more like a hit toward all of us) :
" I don't care who I piss off. I don't need any dogs from no one I keep my own."
"I'm am so sick of you want to be breeders doing that. You just see ch in the name."
Lastly, about the hernia she says:
I would even sale a female with a Umbilical Hernia as a breeder before I have had it fixed."
#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company
NOW THIS IS ALICE OF WUNDERLAND COCKER
AUTHOR: WC - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
BO LOOKED LIKE THAT THE NIGHT I PICKED HIM UP LOOK AT MY WEBSITE LOOK AT BO AND DAISY WEBPAGE'S AND YOU'LL SE THE TRUTH..... I DIDN'T POST THE RIPOFF'S FOR DAISY OR BO. I HAVE A WEBSITE FOR THAT. I WELCOME ANYONE TO MY HOME TO SEE MY DOGS AND SEE HOW LOVING AND HOW LOVED ALSO CARE FOR THEY ARE. ANY DAY OF THE WEEK...... I TOLD DNL DORA WAS SHY . SHE WAS LIKE THAT WHEN I GOT HER
THE PIC SHE IS SHOWING YOU IS THE PIC I TOOK THE NEXT DAY OF ME PICKING HER UP FROM HER BREEDER. I ONLY HAD DORA FOR 4 WEEKS OR LESS DNL COCKERS WAS TOLD ALL THIS. AND SHE KNOW THE PICS OF BO WAS TAKEN THE NIGHT I GOT HOME WITH HIM AT 5 IN THE MORNING YES IT WAS AT MY GROOMING SHOP. I OWN MY OWN GROOMING SHOP SO I CAN TAKE MY DOGS TO WORK WITH ME SO I CAN KEEP ALL MY DOG IN TIP TOP SHAPE ( GROOMING & HEALTHY ) I ASK THAT YOU ALL GO TO MY WEBSITE AND JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF MY DOGS,,,, http://wunderlandcockers.webstarts.com/index.html
I ALL SO UPDATE PICTURES OF ALL MY DOGS ALL THE TIME ON FACEBOOK JUST FUN PICTURES. I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF PITRES OF MY COCKER MORE THEN I CAN SAY FOR ONE KENNEL
#3 Author of original report
LIES
AUTHOR: DNL Cockers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
I would like for everyone to notice that ALICE GETTELFINGER used her personal account to LIE and say that she received a little male from me. She is trying to pose as a different person. I have only sent home ONE Boy puppy in the last 2 years and know exactly where he went.
Look at the posters name: AG - USA. It is the same on both posts, approximatley 20 mintues apart and she is claiming to be someone else, she still does not use proper grammar or punctuation marks. She has ONLY ever received the little female from me... in great health.
She has no other defense but to lie. This is ridiculous... that she would go to this extent to run someone down... again with the slander.
Also notice she had nothing so say about any other situations, as she knows they are TRUE.
#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds
I TOO WAS TAKEN BY DNL COCKERS
AUTHOR: AG - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
I GOT A COCKER SPANIEL FROM DNL. HIS SKIN WAS SO BAD FROM Cheyletiella . He wasn't groomed
I don't think the boy ever had a bath HE also was so bad ears the Vet said he had never see ears so bad, Please think before dealing this DNL COCKERS .
#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
BUFF GIRL AND ROAN
AUTHOR: AG - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 10, 2012
I HAD THE ROAN GIRL FOR 4 WEEKS SHE WAS SHY WHEN I GOT HER. AND I TOLD HER THIS. AND YES I GOT PICTURES TO SHE THE WLAKING DANDRUFF I WILL POAT THEM ON HERE TOO
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