youcyclings co. ltd - aka. vipbikingshop.com - SCAM ALERT Website Scam, promising deals on bikes. NO12-13 nanjing road yaohai district hefei anhui China Internet

This is a scam alert.  "denis lee"  is very responsive and assuring if you email him looking for a bike.  The website is less than a few months old, although he claims to be in business since 2008.

If you ask for accredation or referral, the response will be that he wants to do big business and we can start small to build trust.  The minimum order is 5 bikes.. AND he'll take 50% off the listed price.

I later asked why his domain is not as old as his claimed business, and the response was "

 "As all of our brand bikes is smuggled from Aboard, so that is why our price can be so competitive than other supplier,  just for it, and we haveto avoid government checking , so our website is change frequently "

They will then pressure a purchase and ask for western union payment and address to ship to.  

I have done manufacturing in China before with excellent results, and they know how to structure the conversation to build trust as if they want to continue business with you.  All manufacturers have that same approach, so it's difficult to weed out the bad ones sometimes.  I would be lying if i said i didnt lose about $600 taking a chance that this would be a good deal, knowing there is a good chance this is not real (thank god i talked him down to one bike as a "tester", could have been worse).

As so many stories go.. one payment is out, so is communication. DO NOT trust this website, or any of it's clones (vipbikingshop.com), there is or probably will be more.  This is bad and illegal business practice, and the owners should be locked up.