YTB Aka Your Travel Biz MLM aka pyramid scheme travel cult that beat me out of $500 Alton Illinois

YTB may seem legitimate, however its not!!! Like Enron looked legitimate and they are not!!! ACN looks legitimate but they are not!!!!

Through my years in looking for legitimate ways to make money, YTB my friend is a SCAM. They are a fairly young business so be aware.

Your an EMPLOYEE so of course you will promote your business. TALK with EX-EMPLOYEES, they will tell you that YTB IS A SCAM.

STAY AWAY FROM YTB. YTB IS A SCAM.

I am a power team leader with YTB and I could not ask to be associated with a better company. This company has morals, honesty, and integrity. The Founders, Coach, Scott, and Kim are some of the most respected people in the business world. I would trust my life to them.

The compensation plan is the first in the industry and pays very well. This is not a get rich quick scheme or a scam. As with any business you need to work at it.

I am a power team leader with YTB and I could not ask to be associated with a better company. This company has morals, honesty, and integrity. The Founders, Coach, Scott, and Kim are some of the most respected people in the business world. I would trust my life to them.

The compensation plan is the first in the industry and pays very well. This is not a get rich quick scheme or a scam. As with any business you need to work at it.

I am a power team leader with YTB and I could not ask to be associated with a better company. This company has morals, honesty, and integrity. The Founders, Coach, Scott, and Kim are some of the most respected people in the business world. I would trust my life to them.

The compensation plan is the first in the industry and pays very well. This is not a get rich quick scheme or a scam. As with any business you need to work at it.

Not to take anything away from Willie. I understand his point, however misguided. YTB has been around since 2001 and are now off the pink sheets on the NYSE, they are a publically traded company and have doubled in size in the last two years. I understand the hesitance in MLM, but this company is not hocking products people don't need. They don't make false claims like "earn $64,000 per month" and the have a GUARANTEE. A "bill of rights" that protects from losing future income. This comany offers TRAVEL: a $7 Trillion, that's $7,000,000,000,000 per year industry. Everyone want to travel and YTB has more products packages and benefits to it's members and consumers.
Thanks for listening....
James ****
My Venue Travel

Like any company, you get out of it, what you put into it. My wife and I have been involve with YTB 4 months, this June. We have put in more money than you stated that you have, and we have received 6 checks back from YTB and have received great travel discounts from being members. I am a Scuba Diver and both my wife and I love to travel, this year we have already booked for our selfs, MGM, Luxor, Circus-Circus in Vegas, each are 3days and 2night stays and Orlando, Fl. 7days and 6nights, with 2 passes to Disney World or the Epcot Center, all for the total of $1100.00. that includes the flight to Florida, taxes included and I'm in California .

YTB a RIP-OFF? I don't think so. You on the other hand, Maybe are to lazy, wanting everything to be handed to you, are the person who says "the other team cheated" when you lose. When you were a little kid, you were the one that said, "Give me my ball, I'm going home!"
When I'm in Vegas in late June, August and December, I'll drop a coin in the slots and say!
"This ones for you, Willie." But I won't expect to win anything, JINX!

As for YTB, the BBB, ATF, CIA, NFL, NAACP, NAFTA, NBA, FBI, BBC, and even BB. King
will not find any wrong doing by them, It's no scam, if people are making money and getting cheap travel, how could it be a scam? You just did not put the time in to learn your own business, you RIPPED YOURSELF OFF!
Oh! by the way my wife and I are not certified yet, but we take the test this Tuesday, then I'll let you know what kind of deals we get.

Like any company, you get out of it, what you put into it. My wife and I have been involve with YTB 4 months, this June. We have put in more money than you stated that you have, and we have received 6 checks back from YTB and have received great travel discounts from being members. I am a Scuba Diver and both my wife and I love to travel, this year we have already booked for our selfs, MGM, Luxor, Circus-Circus in Vegas, each are 3days and 2night stays and Orlando, Fl. 7days and 6nights, with 2 passes to Disney World or the Epcot Center, all for the total of $1100.00. that includes the flight to Florida, taxes included and I'm in California .

YTB a RIP-OFF? I don't think so. You on the other hand, Maybe are to lazy, wanting everything to be handed to you, are the person who says "the other team cheated" when you lose. When you were a little kid, you were the one that said, "Give me my ball, I'm going home!"
When I'm in Vegas in late June, August and December, I'll drop a coin in the slots and say!
"This ones for you, Willie." But I won't expect to win anything, JINX!

As for YTB, the BBB, ATF, CIA, NFL, NAACP, NAFTA, NBA, FBI, BBC, and even BB. King
will not find any wrong doing by them, It's no scam, if people are making money and getting cheap travel, how could it be a scam? You just did not put the time in to learn your own business, you RIPPED YOURSELF OFF!
Oh! by the way my wife and I are not certified yet, but we take the test this Tuesday, then I'll let you know what kind of deals we get.

Like any company, you get out of it, what you put into it. My wife and I have been involve with YTB 4 months, this June. We have put in more money than you stated that you have, and we have received 6 checks back from YTB and have received great travel discounts from being members. I am a Scuba Diver and both my wife and I love to travel, this year we have already booked for our selfs, MGM, Luxor, Circus-Circus in Vegas, each are 3days and 2night stays and Orlando, Fl. 7days and 6nights, with 2 passes to Disney World or the Epcot Center, all for the total of $1100.00. that includes the flight to Florida, taxes included and I'm in California .

YTB a RIP-OFF? I don't think so. You on the other hand, Maybe are to lazy, wanting everything to be handed to you, are the person who says "the other team cheated" when you lose. When you were a little kid, you were the one that said, "Give me my ball, I'm going home!"
When I'm in Vegas in late June, August and December, I'll drop a coin in the slots and say!
"This ones for you, Willie." But I won't expect to win anything, JINX!

As for YTB, the BBB, ATF, CIA, NFL, NAACP, NAFTA, NBA, FBI, BBC, and even BB. King
will not find any wrong doing by them, It's no scam, if people are making money and getting cheap travel, how could it be a scam? You just did not put the time in to learn your own business, you RIPPED YOURSELF OFF!
Oh! by the way my wife and I are not certified yet, but we take the test this Tuesday, then I'll let you know what kind of deals we get.

Like any company, you get out of it, what you put into it. My wife and I have been involve with YTB 4 months, this June. We have put in more money than you stated that you have, and we have received 6 checks back from YTB and have received great travel discounts from being members. I am a Scuba Diver and both my wife and I love to travel, this year we have already booked for our selfs, MGM, Luxor, Circus-Circus in Vegas, each are 3days and 2night stays and Orlando, Fl. 7days and 6nights, with 2 passes to Disney World or the Epcot Center, all for the total of $1100.00. that includes the flight to Florida, taxes included and I'm in California .

YTB a RIP-OFF? I don't think so. You on the other hand, Maybe are to lazy, wanting everything to be handed to you, are the person who says "the other team cheated" when you lose. When you were a little kid, you were the one that said, "Give me my ball, I'm going home!"
When I'm in Vegas in late June, August and December, I'll drop a coin in the slots and say!
"This ones for you, Willie." But I won't expect to win anything, JINX!

As for YTB, the BBB, ATF, CIA, NFL, NAACP, NAFTA, NBA, FBI, BBC, and even BB. King
will not find any wrong doing by them, It's no scam, if people are making money and getting cheap travel, how could it be a scam? You just did not put the time in to learn your own business, you RIPPED YOURSELF OFF!
Oh! by the way my wife and I are not certified yet, but we take the test this Tuesday, then I'll let you know what kind of deals we get.

"The income statistics above are for all active U.S. YTB Reps who were eligible to earn compensation in 2007. An Active Rep is defined as Any Rep who received
a check in 2007. The average annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $299.95, and the median annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $97.00. In 2007, 80.92%
of all Reps received no income at all."

http://www.ytb.com/downloads/YTB_IncomeDisclosure_2-8-08.pdf

Think about that before you want to spend $499.99 to start up and $49.99 month just for a website to sell travel. The odds are that you won't make any money either.

"The income statistics above are for all active U.S. YTB Reps who were eligible to earn compensation in 2007. An Active Rep is defined as Any Rep who received
a check in 2007. The average annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $299.95, and the median annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $97.00. In 2007, 80.92%
of all Reps received no income at all."

http://www.ytb.com/downloads/YTB_IncomeDisclosure_2-8-08.pdf

Think about that before you want to spend $499.99 to start up and $49.99 month just for a website to sell travel. The odds are that you won't make any money either.

"The income statistics above are for all active U.S. YTB Reps who were eligible to earn compensation in 2007. An Active Rep is defined as Any Rep who received
a check in 2007. The average annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $299.95, and the median annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $97.00. In 2007, 80.92%
of all Reps received no income at all."

http://www.ytb.com/downloads/YTB_IncomeDisclosure_2-8-08.pdf

Think about that before you want to spend $499.99 to start up and $49.99 month just for a website to sell travel. The odds are that you won't make any money either.

"The income statistics above are for all active U.S. YTB Reps who were eligible to earn compensation in 2007. An Active Rep is defined as Any Rep who received
a check in 2007. The average annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $299.95, and the median annual income for all Reps in 2007 was $97.00. In 2007, 80.92%
of all Reps received no income at all."

http://www.ytb.com/downloads/YTB_IncomeDisclosure_2-8-08.pdf

Think about that before you want to spend $499.99 to start up and $49.99 month just for a website to sell travel. The odds are that you won't make any money either.

I have been involved with YTB for 1 year and my experience has been positive.
I did extensive research before choosing a home based opportunity, including BBB reports, financials etc., and decided on YTB.

If someone were to invest a total of $1275 over the course of 1 year in a business that can create a positive return on investment, I would challenge them to seek out other business opportunties, or even franchises that can claim the same low cost start up and maintenance.

As I am sure many folks know, franchises often require one to have a minimum of $25,000 working capital up front and can cost up to $1 million dollars for franchise liscense fees,plus monthly loyalty fees. (Examples - UPS, McDonalds, Jani King, Matco Tools, Jazzercise) - there are many more. There is never a guarantee of success in any venture. Not even buying a brand name for $25 to $100K or more.

While there are investments of time and money, as with any business, or attempt to start and sustain a business, this business does not make individuals spend monies they do not have. The RTA certification is optional, and all costs associated with joining, including training, and the 49.95 monthly site fee are detailed up front before joining. I found no hidden costs and made back half my investment the night I joined because I made a purchase as an agent. The discount I received recovered half my start up. I have since received additional discounts as an agent, both airfare, and travel packages alike.

In additon, I have not found any other web hosting service that costs so little and provides so much. To have the site fully maintained, the travel packages, and other options brokered for the Reps for such a small amount is really incredible. Website maintenance fees can generally run hundreds of dollars or more and often times services are very, very, basic and everything else is billed as 'options' or 'extras'.

The business also does not require one to recruit others. This is optional and aside from tax breaks and travel discounts, this is one of the main reasons I joined. At home companies such as cosmetics, cooking/food, apparel, adult novelties, candles, housewares, health&wellness etc. require start up monies too -usually more than $100 for a 'starter kit' and then with most of them you have to recruit to make any real money. You also have to maintain inventory, make montly product purchases, and drag products around to home shows but the real money is in recruiting. If you are not making the sales, you have to purchase it yourself to "stay active".

With YTB, I concentrate on the travel sales end, as I am simply not a networker. Because it provides a 60% commission rate on most bookings, actual travel is all that I market and it has been successful for me. I market soley online, and have attended one bridal fair for honeymoons. In the past year the business generated on my site has more than covered my $49.95 monthly fee. Between commissions, discount travel, and tax breaks, I have more than recovered my investment and monthly fee. This business is successful for anyone who chooses to do only promoting travel sales, but you have to promote your service/product.
Were I to recruit, those extras would just be icing on the cake.

I also had no trouble finding business location adresses, phone numbers, representatives and other company and corporate information. I even traveled to their headquarters, before and after they moved. I also still hold valid IATAN and CLIA.

Best of luck to all in your endeavors.

FabulousTravel.Biz
FabTravelBiz@yahoo.com

After doing much research on this company, I decided not to join.

I think they have a great idea, matching up a MLM with travel, however, right now it isn't working very well for them.

RIGHT NOW ALMOST ALL THIS COMPANY IS DOING IS SELLING WEBSITES TO NEW RECRUITS, AND CHARGING THEM MONTHLY FEES!

Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. Here is the link to the SEC website that shows their last financial report.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/852766/000114420407061577/v093661_10qsb.htm

If you look at their revenue, you will clearly see that they earned 28 million (rounded down) in three months just off of signing people up and charging them monthly fee's for continuing their service. In the same time period they only earned 6 million (rounded up) in actual travel sales commissions.

So how much of that was travel that was booked by new RTA's? How much was actually sold to customers outside the organization?

I'm not an expert, but based on their financial statements, this is a company I personally am staying far away from. I will be watching it closely, as I still think they have a good idea, and it is possible for the company to do a 180, and change a lot of things, but they have a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGG way to go.

It saddens me to know that an individual was not satisfied with YTB. I will say, however, that the post that Willie submitted is not accurate in its information.

First, all of the YTB material is very clear that travel perks for Referring Travel Agents is not guaranteed but is a courtesy of the suppliers with whom we do business. Second, Willie stated, travel industy [sic] got tired of the all the phoney [sic] travel agents using YTB cards and revoked their travel numbers. While there has been a credential agency that has revoked YTB's involvement in their organization, YTB still enjoys a good relationship with very well known and respected credential organizations. I received my credential identification card this week from one of the largest travel industry associations.

Let me further state that Willie confessed that he had no intention of selling travel, but signed-up only to receive cheap travel. He wanted the perks of a travel agent but implied in his report that he didn't want to do the work of a travel agent. I have already received discounts, credentials, and income from YTB. Everything is as the company has stated. Sometimes I have received travel discounts because I am with the company and other times I have not. It is based upon the supplier and the availability of the services they provide. YTB has also instituted minimum travel sales requirements for all new Referring Travel Agents before they can qualify for credentials. This is to ensure that those who are benefiting from travel professional discounts are actually selling travel.

YTB is a NetWORK Marketing Company. If one will put the work in to his company he will receive the benefits. I would warn people about judging a company by the complaint of someone who signed-up to be a Referring Travel Agent for the perks but yet he did not want to sell travel.

Neal
Mississippi

It saddens me to know that an individual was not satisfied with YTB. I will say, however, that the post that Willie submitted is not accurate in its information.

First, all of the YTB material is very clear that travel perks for Referring Travel Agents is not guaranteed but is a courtesy of the suppliers with whom we do business. Second, Willie stated, travel industy [sic] got tired of the all the phoney [sic] travel agents using YTB cards and revoked their travel numbers. While there has been a credential agency that has revoked YTB's involvement in their organization, YTB still enjoys a good relationship with very well known and respected credential organizations. I received my credential identification card this week from one of the largest travel industry associations.

Let me further state that Willie confessed that he had no intention of selling travel, but signed-up only to receive cheap travel. He wanted the perks of a travel agent but implied in his report that he didn't want to do the work of a travel agent. I have already received discounts, credentials, and income from YTB. Everything is as the company has stated. Sometimes I have received travel discounts because I am with the company and other times I have not. It is based upon the supplier and the availability of the services they provide. YTB has also instituted minimum travel sales requirements for all new Referring Travel Agents before they can qualify for credentials. This is to ensure that those who are benefiting from travel professional discounts are actually selling travel.

YTB is a NetWORK Marketing Company. If one will put the work in to his company he will receive the benefits. I would warn people about judging a company by the complaint of someone who signed-up to be a Referring Travel Agent for the perks but yet he did not want to sell travel.

Neal
Mississippi

It saddens me to know that an individual was not satisfied with YTB. I will say, however, that the post that Willie submitted is not accurate in its information.

First, all of the YTB material is very clear that travel perks for Referring Travel Agents is not guaranteed but is a courtesy of the suppliers with whom we do business. Second, Willie stated, travel industy [sic] got tired of the all the phoney [sic] travel agents using YTB cards and revoked their travel numbers. While there has been a credential agency that has revoked YTB's involvement in their organization, YTB still enjoys a good relationship with very well known and respected credential organizations. I received my credential identification card this week from one of the largest travel industry associations.

Let me further state that Willie confessed that he had no intention of selling travel, but signed-up only to receive cheap travel. He wanted the perks of a travel agent but implied in his report that he didn't want to do the work of a travel agent. I have already received discounts, credentials, and income from YTB. Everything is as the company has stated. Sometimes I have received travel discounts because I am with the company and other times I have not. It is based upon the supplier and the availability of the services they provide. YTB has also instituted minimum travel sales requirements for all new Referring Travel Agents before they can qualify for credentials. This is to ensure that those who are benefiting from travel professional discounts are actually selling travel.

YTB is a NetWORK Marketing Company. If one will put the work in to his company he will receive the benefits. I would warn people about judging a company by the complaint of someone who signed-up to be a Referring Travel Agent for the perks but yet he did not want to sell travel.

Neal
Mississippi

It saddens me to know that an individual was not satisfied with YTB. I will say, however, that the post that Willie submitted is not accurate in its information.

First, all of the YTB material is very clear that travel perks for Referring Travel Agents is not guaranteed but is a courtesy of the suppliers with whom we do business. Second, Willie stated, travel industy [sic] got tired of the all the phoney [sic] travel agents using YTB cards and revoked their travel numbers. While there has been a credential agency that has revoked YTB's involvement in their organization, YTB still enjoys a good relationship with very well known and respected credential organizations. I received my credential identification card this week from one of the largest travel industry associations.

Let me further state that Willie confessed that he had no intention of selling travel, but signed-up only to receive cheap travel. He wanted the perks of a travel agent but implied in his report that he didn't want to do the work of a travel agent. I have already received discounts, credentials, and income from YTB. Everything is as the company has stated. Sometimes I have received travel discounts because I am with the company and other times I have not. It is based upon the supplier and the availability of the services they provide. YTB has also instituted minimum travel sales requirements for all new Referring Travel Agents before they can qualify for credentials. This is to ensure that those who are benefiting from travel professional discounts are actually selling travel.

YTB is a NetWORK Marketing Company. If one will put the work in to his company he will receive the benefits. I would warn people about judging a company by the complaint of someone who signed-up to be a Referring Travel Agent for the perks but yet he did not want to sell travel.

Neal
Mississippi