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Complaint Review: Dish Network - Littleton Colorado

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A letter to Dish Network:
After growing up on cable TV and having cable in my own home for 10 years, my husband decided we should try Dish. We were tired of paying higher prices for the same channels and many of our friends and neighbors have dish service so we thought it HAS to be great. The question quickly became; "Who do we choose, Dish Network or DirectTV? After some research, we decided to go AGAINST all of our friend's recommendations of DirectTV and sign up with Dish Network since DN supports Sirius radio and we have considerable stock in Sirius.

My husband was concerned that the promotion did not offer a free HD receiver so he contacted Dish Network directly and inquired if we had an HD TV, did we have to have an HD receiver as well? The answer was no, that the service would work fine with a regular receiver and that the package included the HD satellites so that at a future time we could add the HD receiver without a problem. An installation appointment was scheduled and my husband cancelled our high-priced cable service.

Installation:
The day of the installation, a man showed up in an unmarked truck, wearing camouflage and no identification and said he was the installer. Against my better judgment, being alone, I let him in. The installation was in December and he walked into and through my house with his shoes on, tracking snow and mud everywhere.

He proceeded to tell me that he had to mount the dish on a pole in front of my living room window since that was the only place he could put it in a clear line of site. I asked him if he could mount it to the house and his response was that he did not have a drill bit with him to drill through the house.

He needed to bring the wires out of an existing basement window. He proceeded to get set up and asked me if I had a flashlight. I did. He then asked me if I had a drill since his was not charged. After going out to the garage and searching through my husband's tools, I came back with a drill. The installer proceeded with his job and I proceeded with mine in my home office.

The next thing I knew, my systems for my job went down and I could not connect. I immediately knew what happened, and at the same time, the installer came back up from the basement and asked me if I needed the cable for Internet Service...I did, and after telling him so, he went back down to fix the cable that he had just cut.

He came back up about an hour later and told me that the Dish was downloading and that it could take up to an hour to do so. He had me sign the agreement, where I could finally see that he was from Cerone TV, about an hour and a half away from my house. He left and I went to pick my daughters up from daycare.

When I came back, my husband was home from work and waiting for the download to complete. Once it did, I quickly realized that the picture quality was VERY poor and I said so. My husband said that he would check our friend's picture out that has DirectTV and see what his looked like. His was crystal clear, thus started the battle with Dish Network.



Customer Service:
Shortly after installation, my husband called customer service and reported the problem. Tech support was on the phone with him for a half an hour going through systems checks before they could send the installation people back to have a look. All systems seemed fine; therefore, we were told it HAD to be an installation issue.

Another appointment was scheduled, and my husband took off work. The same installation company came out, although it was a different tech. He said that the problem we were having was not an installation problem, but that it was Dish Network's compression problem and that the only way he could minimize the crappy picture quality was by minimizing the picture to about 40 inches on our 56-inch TV. NOT ACCEPTABLE.

If I had wanted a 40-inch TV, I would have bought one. He agreed and said that the best option for us would be to call our cable company back and see what good deals they could give us for coming back...nice brand loyalty on his part. Needless to say, we let him leave and decided to take the issue up with Dish Network directly.

I called in to customer service and explained what had happened and asked if they could send a different company to come out and take a look. I informed them of a company that is FOUR MILES away that handles DN and asked if they could be sent instead. I was told that I'd first have to do ANOTHER systems check before a service could be scheduled.

A half hour later. Still no resolution to the issue, so now we could proceed with setting up another service appointment. An appointment was set up and I was told that they would "try" not so send the company from 90 miles away. I took off from work and waited...and waited...finally, right before they end of the slot that they could have come in, I received a call...from Cerone TV.

"M'am, this is Cerone TV, we were just out yesterday and did a service on your TV and now we are getting another request for one. We told your husband that this is not an installation problem, that it is Dish Network's quality issue. I am not coming out there to tell you the same thing twice." I told him no, that I did not want him to come out and that we were taking up the issue with DN.

Once again, I called into customer service REPEATED EVERYTHING that had happened from the beginning explaining that the issue needed to be resolved, but that it could not be by the installation company. Once again, I was told that they would "try" to send the other company. I took ANOTHER day off....and waited...and waited....and waited. NOTHING. I called customer service; they had no record of having an appointment set up.

Set up another appointment and was assured by a member of the holy "Executive Team" that they would watch and make sure that our appointment was not sent back to Cerone TV. Again, I took a day off, confident that the "Executive Team" would pull through. I mean, that is what makes them "Executives" right? I waited..., waited..., and waited. NOTHING!!

Another call to customer service and another "Executive Team member later, an appointment was set up with Dish Network's own service techs. Wow, it takes a lot to get them to come out. And they were only 15 minutes away the whole time!

Dish Network Techs:
Another day off, and finally a body shows up directly from Dish Network. These guys were GREAT! They were prompt and knew what the problem was right away...we did not have an HD receiver to go with our HD TV.

Well, since that was all the issue was, we said okay, hook us up with an HD receiver. We were told that would be extra per month...fine. We were told that he would have to come back with an HD DVR...fine. We were told that the new receiver would be $499, but could be $299 with a rebate...WHOA that is a pretty hefty price tag for something that we were told on the phone was not needed for our TV.

We asked the tech if he could hook an HD receiver up so that we could verify that was the issue before we purchased one and were stuck in the Dish Network web even more. That was not a possibility without going through customer service since the service has to be on the account to view the HD.

Back to customer service we went, explaining the situation yet AGAIN, we were told that we had to pay for the unit. There was nothing that could be done to give us a better deal than what was being offered already. Besides, they said, we did not need an HD receiver with an HD TV..... Which is it? Since all other attempts for DN to fix the problem failed, I would have to believe that the techs were right and customer service was wrong. Is this a ploy that the customer service members are told to get new customers in?

So, we decided that saving the $5 per month over cable was nothing if we had to look at the distorted face of Regis and Kelly. We wanted to cancel. After four more calls and an "Executive Team" member later, we were told that we would not have to pay the cancellation fee since "we had been through so much". Very generous on the part of Dish Network.

We told them we also wanted our first month payment back since we had had the service for less than one month and had spent so much time, both on the phone and sitting on our asses waiting for people that were never going to come. An "Executive Team" member granted that wish.

We were told that some prepaid boxes would come to ship our parts back in 3-5 business days. We cancelled service on January 10th...your boxes arrived today... February 1, 22 days later, but very well could be considered 3-5 business days by Dish Network's retarded time table.

In the meantime, we are back to Cable since DN scared us off from EVER approaching another satellite again, even though all we here about DirectTV is good. My internet service for my home office has been experiencing problems that have resulted from the genius installer splicing the cable back together.

A call in to DN to see if the fee to have that fixed would be covered since it was there installation company that created the problem resulted in a "No m'am we will not be covering that cost" by a man I had to ask repeat himself three times since he barely spoke English.

We were also told that the installation company did not install a phone jack for the receiver; he just left it hanging there in hopes that it would perhaps find its own way to some abandoned phone jack elsewhere in the house....

Most appalling is the fact that we learned that the installation company DID NOT GROUND the wires. I have a three year old and 7 month old and to find out that they could have been seriously injured because of a company that YOUR company sends into people's homes really infuriates me.

Dish Network is lucky that there has not been any lawsuits as of yet. BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE ONE. I have never, ever, ever felt the need to complain, much less write to an Executive over the customer service or lack there of of a company.

I guess that is why I did not send the installer back on his merry way back into the woods at first glance. Because I am a trusting person and TRUST that people are reputable. I guess when you are dealing with Dish Network, that is not so. Believe me, every person that I know has and will hear this story.

At no point in time did anybody offer anything up to rectify this situation. I am sure that Cerone TV is still one of your installers even after my complaints and their comments themselves about how much Dish Network sucks.

I can deal with the frustration of missed appointments and aggravating phone calls, but when my life or my family's life is in danger from something an incompetent installation company does, I take action. I assure you that the BBB, the Attorney General and your company will be hearing more from my lawyer and me.

I am sure I will not receive a response to this letter as in keeping with the Dish Network customer service you are so proud of. However, just to let you know, I am shipping back your parts today, although I am keeping my complimentary Dish Network Dish for my daughter to use as a sled. I saw one lying on the side of somebody else's yard the other day, perhaps another product of your great service, and thought it was such a waste of good plastic.

Stephanie
Clifton Springs, New York
U.S.A.

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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Owners, employees listen up!

AUTHOR: Gharris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 01, 2008

Do you realize what you have done? You have proven the customers point by bickering back and forth about the company. After reading these comments, i could see no one wanting to have Dish networks services if the employees act like this with the Owner of a company that installs for dish. Mattfast1 has said in his many posts that Dish Network has no control over 3rd party contractors and installers, yet why does he and MKC fight so hard against this owner? Who gives a care about grammar in the complaint? The guy was trying to defend his company as MAttfast1 does on ripoofreport.com. I agree with many point that mattfast1 and MKC have made but the bickering is about as childish as it gets.

Customer, i hope you do the right thing and send your letter to Charlie Ergen, the CEO of Dish Network and i hope he does something about it. I, myself am creating an online petition and physical one for people who have been wronged by Dish Network. It's no class action lawsuit but i plan on letting them know that the current 702 reports out of 14 million customers may be small but not every one knows about this site. Now if you go to the BBB website (bbb.org) you'll find 11,440 complains and you'll also find that the Denver BBB is concerned with this many complaints. The only Satellite company with higher is DirecTV with 16000. The numbers only matter if you don't care about your customers. If you do care about the customer, 1 is too many. But that's fantasy but the view that all companies should take. I urge you ALL to watch how you conduct yourselves from now on when dealing wi'th a 'customer. I urge the customer to get cable it's better and doesn't require a contract!!

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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

ON AND ON, YET MISSING THE POINT.

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 03, 2008

I am now getting a kick out of your "know it all comments". If your read to where this all started you will see that the customer did indeed recieve the wrong reciever from DISH and it was not HD. I am glad that Dish did go back with a HD reciever but saddened to hear they still could not please this customer for what ever reason they used why it would not work. As far as my history of Satellite Tv we were doing C-Band in the 80's. If you want to question our reputation with DISH NETWORK please feel free to contact Charlie Ergen as I'm sure you know, well maybe not is the CEO.

I will continue to represent DISH NETWORK in the highest manner as i always have and I hope you will keep doing what you do best adding fuel to the fire. If you are in anyway lucky enough to be associated with DISH NETWORK, I think you should respect the way you comment about the practice of DISH NETWORK both their own people and their retailers. See you in English class or maybe on the next DISH NETWORK trip as I would love to meet you.

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#8 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Mattfast1 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 03, 2008

Mike, if you would abide by the rules of the English language, it would serve to give your comments a little more weight. Some friendly advice from someone who apparently knows more about running a business AND more about Dish Network systems than you.

If you require more guidance on installing satellite systems, please feel free to call our retailer services line. We would be more than happy to explain why systems MUST be grounded, and MUST be installed in a certain configuration depending on the receivers installed, and why the issue the customer reported with her picture quality was NOT due to any 'compression problems' on our end. I would also like to point out that Dish Network (originally called Echosphere, then Echostar) has been installing satellite dishes since 1980, long before Dish Network services even existed. I can't blame the customer for never wanting to do business with our company again, and it is partially because of your installers, and partly because of misinformation from the Dish Network agent.

Stephanie, I hope you did send that letter to the executives of our company, so they can deal appropriately with the agents who lied to you, the installers who did not perform their job properly, and the owner of a company who thinks an appropriate solution to a customer complaint is calling them 'confused'.

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#7 Author of original report

Customer is not confused...

AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 27, 2007

After reading the various rebuttals I decided to no longer waste my time with my past Dish experience. I am not the type of person that posts complaints for trivial matters. I have read the rebuttals of the owner to mine, as well as the others who posted in my defense. I read them all and shrugged it off. But, since it seems to continue with the owner posting things that are NOT TRUE, I decided to waste some more of my time and clarify a few things.

Yes, YOUR installer showed up to do the installation in camouflage WITHOUT the proper tools to do his job. Remember I said I had to get my husbands' drill out of the garage for your installer to use? When we called YOUR company to complain after the the picture quality was poor, the person you sent out stated himself to change back to Time Warner and get a better deal like his family member had just done. The THIRD time somebody was supposed to come out, they never showed after taking the time off of work to wait for them.

After that, we called Dish direct and told them NOT to send somebody from your business to perform the service. They finally sent two professional Dish Network service technicians from their Henrietta location (in Dish Network uniforms and vans). Those two men brought the "right" equipment that you say we needed to get the better picture quality. They were the ones that told us that the equipment that YOU installed was not grounded. So, if you are saying that is untrue, I would suggest you take it up with Dish Network.

Needless to say the "right" equipment which was the top of the line model at the time still didn't fix the problem, supposedly from their story due to electrical interference, we decided to ditch the Dish Network.

These are the facts. You may now have uniforms and vans with your logo on them, but at that time, if you did, your technician was neither wearing one or driving one.

I still have Time Warner, if I do decide to attach a Dish to my new $400,000 house, it will be from Direct TV. Good Day.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thanks for the advice

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 27, 2007

The article that has been in question above, my installer did represent himself in the right manner and and i must add in full uniform and did show up in a lettered truck which my fleet of new trucks are all lettered with company name and Dish logos. I believe this customer had multiple installers at her home from who knows where to trouble shoot her 16x9 HD format issue and she is describing one of them.

I'm not to concerned if your impressed or not with my company for who are you? My company has represented Dish Network as a top 100 retailer since 1996 and have been on many Dish Network trips. I will add, a grammar teacher i am not nor do i want to be one like yourself. If you would like some guidance in being a leader in Satellite Television i will be glad to assist. Good Day.

P.S. Ex-Employee, not hardly.

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#5 UPDATE Employee

The Owner

AUTHOR: Mattfast1 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 21, 2007

Hey Mike, guess what? I'm not impressed with your story, as well as the continued butchering of the language. In particular, there is a space after every punctuation mark.

However, I'd like to ask: Of those 80 years since your "grandfather built once of the first radios in Syracuse", how many have you been installing satellite systems? How much training do you give your installers? If you have so much pride in your company, why do you allow your installers to show up in, as the customer reports, an unmarked van and wearing camouflage? A man with pride in his company would have markings on his company's vans - and hey, it's free advertising every time they roll out to a job! At the very least, provide your employees with some sort of uniform, whether it has your name on it or a Dish Network logo, it's still a lot more professional.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

OWNER SPEAKS AGAIN 2

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Refreshing additional comments,If readers read the story they will see that the installer was right, the whole issue revolved around the customer buying the wrong equipment over the phone. Very important message to all buyers, make sure you know what your getting before you get it,talk to someone that indeed knows what they are proposing to give you.Dish Network uses many third party installers because of the amount of work they have and they are all certified to meet Dish Network's criteria.

Many dealers reply to these articles because they are at home with no work and nothing else better to do.At Cerone Tv & Satellite we have been serving the electronics industry in Central New York since 1928 when my Grandfather built one of the first radios in Syracuse, my point is you must be doing something right to stay in bussiness 80 plus years and you wouldn't be around if you didn't take care of your customers. I close in saying sadly that the customer is now watching less than 10 channels of HD on cable when they could have been watching up to 70 on Dish if they only had a little more patience and worked it out through the system, something tells me they'll have Dish again,Good Day.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Please don't SHOUT!

AUTHOR: Mkc75 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Sir,

It was more than difficult to read what you wrote. Please note there are guidelines to which would make your statement have more weight to them. These guidelines are listed on the left side of the response box. In case you did not see this I have listed them here for you.


NOTE: Your comments will read better, if you leave a space between paragraphs and don't indent. Don't use all CAPITAL LETTERS, it's hard to read


Also a good spell checker will do wonders to your message. I really can't take your message with any seriousness with all of the typo and the shouting.

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#2 Consumer Comment

The owner speaks!

AUTHOR: Mattfast1 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 25, 2007

...not the owner of Dish Network, mind you, but the owner of the install company. However, it seems he cannot manage a simple concept like etiquette, much less an installation company. If he cannot type a message on the internet and follow such rules as not shouting at everyone who reads his message, and he butchers his English spelling and grammar, how is he qualified to run a company, especially one that installs complicated, high-tech equipment? If he can't even provide his installers with the proper tools to do a proper installation of the products a customer requires, he's definitely not qualified to do his job.

Frankly, I'm surprised Dish Network would send this guy's company out to do installations on a direct order. When products and services are ordered directly through Dish Network, as a general rule they send their own installers. If products are purchased through a retailer, that's when the retailer sends out their own installer. However, for the nearly 14 million customers DISH Network has, there are 615 ripoff reports posted. The way I see it, that's 13,999,385 satisfied customers. That's not too bad - and consider that most of the ripoff reports posted are complaining about 3RD PARTY INSTALLERS (like this one), it seems most people dealing with DISH Network are happy.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

CUSTOMER CONFUSION

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, October 15, 2007

IN A QUICK REPLY TO THE ARTICLE WRITTENED BY CONSUMER MY COMPANY WAS THE INSTALLER NOT THE SELLER OF THE JOB WHICH IS WHERE THIS SITUATION REVOLVES AROUND. THE CUSTOMER SIGNED UP THROUGH DISH NETWORK DIRECTLY NOT PURCHASING A HIGH DEFINITION RECIEVER BASED ON THE ORDER WE AT CERONE TV RECIEVED. WE FURFILLED THE ORDER AS PER SALES TICKET AND AT NO TIME DID THE CUSTOMER MENTION TO INSTALLER OR AT ANY TIME DID THE CUSTOMER CONTACT MY COMPANY DIRECTLY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING ABOUT HIGH DEFINITION. WE COMPLETED THE INSTALL PROFESSIONALLY AS WE ALWAY DO WITH A PROPER GROUND WITH GROUNDING BLOCK TO DIRECT HOUSE GROUND AS WE DO ON ALL INSTALLATIONS. SADLY TO READ IN THIS PERSONS COMPLAINT ABOPUT THE QUALITY OF HER RECEPTION WAS THE FACT SHE WAS STETCHING THE PICTURE INTO THE WIDE SCREEN FORMAT TO FILL THE SCREEN BUT AS I TOLD HER MYSELF SHE WAS DISTORTING THE THE QUALITY OF HER PICTURE BY STRECTHING WHAT SHOULD BE IN 4 BY 3 FORMAT.THE CUSTOMER SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME OR A DEALER RATHER THAN ORDERING HER SYSTEM OVER THE PHONE SO AS TO GET THE PROPER INFORMATION ON WHAT SHE WANTED.MOST OF HER COMPLAINTS COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED IF SHE CONTACTED THE PHONE NUMBER WHERE SHE SIGNED UP DIRECTLY BY STATING SHE WANTED A HIGH DEFINITION RECIEVER AND I HAVE BEEN A DEALER WITH DISH NETWORK FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS AND I KNOW DISH NETWORK WOULD HAVE SWITCHED HER BOX OUT.CERONE TV DOES PROFESIONAL WORK AND DISHNETWORK DOES STAND BEHIND THEIR CUSTOMERS.THIS CUSTOMER NEVER CONTACTED ME OR MY COMPANY AND I BET NEVER CONTACTED DISHNETWORK.

MIKE CERONE
CERONE TV & SATELLITE

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