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Complaint Review: Bank Safe - Hoboken New Jersey

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  • Bank Safe 50 Harris Street Suite 309 Hoboken, New Jersey U.S.A.
  • Phone: 800-949-0827\
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  • Category: Banks

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bank safe is trying to get my 88 year old mothers bank account info. so far she has not given it to them. she lost 4000 dollars to another company that she cant remember the name of. i do not live in the state where mynparents live and my brother is having a hard time getting these phone calls stopped. i have just put them on the do not call registry so hopefully that will get the call stopped.

Clearinda
seat pleasant, Maryland
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/17/2006 09:40 AM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/bank-safe/hoboken-new-jersey-07030/bank-safe-i-am-reporting-this-for-my-mother-bank-safe-is-trying-to-get-her-bank-account-i-221054. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

A response to Larry's rebuttle

AUTHOR: Ari - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Hello, this is Ari once again. You clearly did not read the initial reply I made to this report, but I offered Clearinda free access to my BANKSAFE service, in addition to having her removed from our calling lists once she contacts me. You should not disuade her from following up with me, I am offering her free service and consultation. It is true that we have registration fees for our plans, but in this case, the service is offered free. Just to let you know, we work hard at what we do, and earn our fee. I do not see why you would rebut in claiming Clearinda would never see a dime, especially if she does not have to pay, she has nothing to lose. I am sorry if you had bad experience with recovery firms in the past or lost money, but we have a prove track record, fraud recovery formula and plenty of testimonials to prove it. Our only downfall is that we have hired some call centers to market our program, but that does not mean that our service does not work. Not to mention we are working on immediate solutions for these call center complaints and searching new avenues to advertise. Once again, our service will be free for Clearinda and her family, and I look forward to hearing from you all.

ARI TIETOLMAN
1-800-949-4305

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

A response to Larry's rebuttle

AUTHOR: Ari - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Hello, this is Ari once again. You clearly did not read the initial reply I made to this report, but I offered Clearinda free access to my BANKSAFE service, in addition to having her removed from our calling lists once she contacts me. You should not disuade her from following up with me, I am offering her free service and consultation. It is true that we have registration fees for our plans, but in this case, the service is offered free. Just to let you know, we work hard at what we do, and earn our fee. I do not see why you would rebut in claiming Clearinda would never see a dime, especially if she does not have to pay, she has nothing to lose. I am sorry if you had bad experience with recovery firms in the past or lost money, but we have a prove track record, fraud recovery formula and plenty of testimonials to prove it. Our only downfall is that we have hired some call centers to market our program, but that does not mean that our service does not work. Not to mention we are working on immediate solutions for these call center complaints and searching new avenues to advertise. Once again, our service will be free for Clearinda and her family, and I look forward to hearing from you all.

ARI TIETOLMAN
1-800-949-4305

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

A response to Larry's rebuttle

AUTHOR: Ari - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Hello, this is Ari once again. You clearly did not read the initial reply I made to this report, but I offered Clearinda free access to my BANKSAFE service, in addition to having her removed from our calling lists once she contacts me. You should not disuade her from following up with me, I am offering her free service and consultation. It is true that we have registration fees for our plans, but in this case, the service is offered free. Just to let you know, we work hard at what we do, and earn our fee. I do not see why you would rebut in claiming Clearinda would never see a dime, especially if she does not have to pay, she has nothing to lose. I am sorry if you had bad experience with recovery firms in the past or lost money, but we have a prove track record, fraud recovery formula and plenty of testimonials to prove it. Our only downfall is that we have hired some call centers to market our program, but that does not mean that our service does not work. Not to mention we are working on immediate solutions for these call center complaints and searching new avenues to advertise. Once again, our service will be free for Clearinda and her family, and I look forward to hearing from you all.

ARI TIETOLMAN
1-800-949-4305

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

The Elderscam Industry

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2006

I went through a similar experience with my mother. I found that there is an entire industry devoted to scamming the elderly. My mother once got a phone call from someone claiming to be from her bank. They asked for her account information because their computer had crashed and all their data was lost. Yeah, right. But she gave them her credit card numbers. Next thing you know her cards were maxed out with charges to a lottery company in the Caribbean.

Elderscammers sell information to one another. Bank Safe knew that your mother had been scammed because they paid for that information. They will offer to recover her money for a fee. If you pay the fee you will never see a dime. Right now your mother's name and contact info is being traded among the elderscammers.

I am not talking about one or two bad apples. There are hundreds of these outfits that prey on the elderly. Why the elderly? Because they have a pile of cash, have decreased reasoning skills, are so lonely that they enjoy talking to anyone who calls, and are too polite to hang up even when they know they are being scammed.

You said your 88-year-old mother was scammed for four thousand dollars and cannot remember who did it. This is a big red flag that says you and your brother need to act and act now. Only a doctor can make a diagnosis, but the lack of critical reasoning and lack of memory indicate senile dementia. Your mother will continue to be victimized as long as she can be reached by phone. Get your mother to sign a broad power of attorney authorizing either you or your brother to act on her behalf. If no one in the family is able to take her in, then you really ought to consider either placing her in assisted living or having someone live with her. Change her phone to an unlisted number if she remains in her home and move her bank accounts.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

A couple of ideas

AUTHOR: Juliet - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Clearinda, I have a couple of ideas that might help your mom avoid unwanted calls.

Obviously, I don't know the state of your mother's vision, so this may not help, but could she get caller i.d., and therefore, answer only calls where she knows who the caller is?

One problem, however, that I have with caller i.d. is if people I DO know are using calling cards, because then it doesn't show up as a known number to me. But if that is not an issue, maybe it would help.

If she does have vision problems, some phone companies offer a service where the phone rings a special ring that you select for specified phone numbers.

Then, if the ring is an "unknown" ring, she doesn't have to answer. Again, this probably has the same problem as far as calling cards go, but just wanted to let you know of this option.

Sorry for all the problems, it is such a shame that she has been swindled and harassed like this. Good luck to you all!

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

FTC do not call list is a good move, but may not stop all calls

AUTHOR: Ari - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 11, 2006

Hi Clearinda, My name is Ari Tietolman, I am the director of the BankSafe program, and I apologize for the phone calls made to your mother from call centers contracted to sell my program.

Placing your mother on the Do Not Call registry was a good move, and so is using the Rip Off report website, However it may not stop calls from other telemarketing companies. Some do not respect, or even know about the FTC... beleive it or not.

As soon as a telemarketer calls, you must inform them that you are registered on the DNC, and they will be liable for fines over TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. That should stop some of them, but changing phone numbers, although its a pain in the A**, may be the best bet! In the meantime, warn them of the DNC, and demand the number be removed from their calling lists. Furthermore, never let your mother disclose her bank info to anyone over the phone, have her tell them that you hold power of attorney, and have her refer them directly to you.

In the same respect, if you call me directly, I will ensure her number is removed from calling lists in my contracted sales organizations, and I will block any transactions that may be submitted to my company in your mothers name. Furthermore, your mother probably engaged in a survey to determine whether she qualified for our fraud recovery plan in the past, and this is why a sales representative called back to make the sale.

You indicated in your report that she had been victimized in the past for several thousand dollars...If this is the case, I will further extend my apologies by offering you our service free of charge. All that I ask is that if we are successful in recovering some of your mothers lost money, that you will report our good work in a testimonial reply to this report. You or your brother may contact me directly at 1-800-949-4305, to have the number removed, or use our service free of charge.

Sincerely
Ari Tietolman

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