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Complaint Review: Mason Grace Enterprises - Manhattan New York

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  • Mason Grace Enterprises 100 Church Street 8th Floor Manhattan, New York USA

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I received a letter in the mail from this company offering to make money simply by stuffing envelopes... I began my research and found through Business Consumer Alliance that this is one of many scams out there!!! BCA's report is great, it gave me just what I needed... This appears to be something that BCA deals with often because they have a detailed report on these type of scams... Check for yourself and visit BCA's REPORT!!!

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#11 General Comment

Mason Grace Enterprises

AUTHOR: Linda - ()

POSTED: Sunday, September 21, 2014

I just want to say thank you to the people that take the time to put up there experiences, so that other people don't get hurt or have there hard earned money taken away from them by these scamers.  I think it is so sad that businesses have to stoop to this level.  If you are going to have someone do work for you, you should just pay them.  Not have a play on words so they don't know if you are really going to pay them.  Like if you send out so many envelops stuffed with there letter than you should be paid for each of those letters.  It's like you are tricking people into doing something for your company, and not having to pay them.  Like in a traditional job if you do work you get paid.    

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#10 Consumer Comment

The payment is only made when someone you send the letter to signs up and sends in a check

AUTHOR: anon - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, September 17, 2014

I just received this letter today.  You have to read carefully.  It says in the first paragraph that you are paid $10 for each letter "stuffed and returned to us as per instructions".  That means each letter you send to someone who then signs up for the program.  The same letter you got and responded to is what you will be sending.  It is like a multi level marketing or ponzi scheme. 

Notice that supporters of the program never mention this.  They only argue the less important points like whether they answer phone calls,  send checks or have a building.  Of course they send checks.  If you send 100 letters and 1 person signs up for the program, you will get $10. That is about the response rate you can expect. 1 in 100.  So if you want to do that, then go ahead. I am going to throw the letter away now. 

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#9 Consumer Suggestion

A few items that I have noticed about Mason Grace

AUTHOR: JerryL - ()

POSTED: Monday, August 25, 2014

I received the boilerplate invitation today to join Mason Grace's home mail stuffing business. As I am aware that 99.9% of these "opportunities" are only opportunites to be scammed, I have done a little research of my own. Besides doing a Google search, where I found this site, I have trecked to Mason's own website, where a few large RED flags are very obvious to anyone who is objective. 

1- NOWHERE is there any mention of what Grace's actual business is. They offer "programs" with no description other than what it costs to participate. They do not describe a single "product" or "service" that anyone would be interested in purchasing.

2- in the FAQ's, item #10 the question is how does the participant prove they actually mailed the material Grace is supposedly paying them to stuff / mail. Their answer is there is an industry wide "trade secret" that allows Grace to know within three days if the material was really mailed. WELL, the fact is there is no such "Industry wide" trade secret. If it was really that wide, it would be no secret. Individual BUSINESS's may well have trade secrets, INDUSTRIES do not. Bottom line, the only way Grace would know if you mailed anything would be if they received a response from someone who received YOUR mailing. You mail 99 letters, if none respond, Grace does not know what you did. They have no reliable way to tell if the stuff was mailed or dumped in your garbage.

3- FAQ, item #2: How does one know if Grace's programs are genuine. Their answer: "You should only trust reviews from people who have actually used the product". They supposedly have an "enormous percentage of repeat customers" It is enlightening that none of these supposedly satisfied customers have supplied any "reliable" reviews that Grace can present on their own website.

4- FAQ, item #5: Who pays the postage? Answer: Grace does, "per our terms" WHAT TERMS? Nowhere on the official website are these "terms" defined.

5- FAQ, item #8 & #11: more "per our terms / instructions". Again, WHAT TERMS, WHAT INSTRUCTIONS? If you have to pay in advance to get the information you need to understand the instructions & other terms, LOOK ELSEWHERE for that "can't miss" home opportunity. It's NOT with Grace.

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#8 UPDATE Employee

Your complaints are unfounded

AUTHOR: Richard - ()

POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2014

This is a great example of how people tend to have too much time on their hands, and apparently nothing useful to do with it.

It is also a great example of how Mason Grace NEVER receives negative commentary from users of our products. Only individuals who, for some reason, feel the need to stand on a soap box and preach on issues without any basis.

To address your comments, firstly, you are mentioning names we have never heard of. Who is Maxwell Gates? We can only assume youre referring to firms who have copied our program. It has happened to us at least a dozen times

As for the website registration, correct. This particular site is a new creation. New is new, old is old, we do not see your point. Again, yoiu might wish to find something useful to do with yourself. This isn't it

As for "defenders", absolutely no idea what or who you are referring to. We do not need defenders. The fact is we do not have ONE valid complaint against us from an actual customer. Only people like yourself, who speak about things they have zero knowledge of, or personal familiarity with

As for the other commenter, you are incorrect. Ciontacting the public as we do is done by practically every single company in oiur field. Some do it through mail, some do it through TV or radio. Your point is moot, frankly. Our method of contact is totally normal for our industry

Considering the degree of completely baseless complaining found on this site, Mason Grace will make a request right now. Instead of speaking on issues you have no personal experience with, SHOW us ONE actual user of our materials who is unhappy

You will not be able to.

 

That is the biggest problem with the internet as we see it. Endless posts, reviews and complaints, and almost NONE of them valid, just like this nonsense Im responding to from you guys

Richard
CS Dept
Mason Grace

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#7 Consumer Comment

Forogt to add

AUTHOR: Giselle - ()

POSTED: Thursday, June 26, 2014

And the other point that I made in reference to 2000, is that in the over 14 years visiting this site and reading thousands of complaints, one of your 'defenders' is the rudest, most crass poster here. What an accomplishment.  You might want to urge your 'defenders' to use tact, professionalism and behave in a more adult manner. They certainly are not doing your 'company' any favors by acting like soemething straight out of the ghetto. Now, what does this all remind me strongly of? Oh that's right: Maxwell Gates.

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#6 Consumer Comment

'Employee Richard'

AUTHOR: Giselle - ()

POSTED: Thursday, June 26, 2014

Please find a responsible adult to read and explain the postings to you.  I did not say anything about your 'company' being on RoR since 2000. I said I have been visiting RoR since 2000 to read and educate myself and others on the latest scams and ripoffs. I have found RoR to be absolutely invalauble.  Maxwell Gates was mentioned because it is an infamous company that almost word for word read like what you are offering. So did Preston Lord, who was also fined and shut-down by the government. Maxwell Gates even had the same pricing structure as yours.

I checked the registration of your website which was is a blind registration, meaning contact names, addresses and numbers are 'private' and it was registered 8 days ago! Interestingly enough, your domain expires in a year. Why? Do you not plan to be around very long???

I have to politely decline the suggestion that I should try your program. No thanks as I do not have a habit of wasting my money. To be honest, I would not try your program even if it were free. Thankfully, I have not encountered any such 'business' here in my own country. America however, seems to be infected with it. Tsk tsk.

 

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#5 General Comment

Real Work At Home Companies DO NOT contact you out the blue

AUTHOR: JesusBlessYou - ()

POSTED: Monday, June 23, 2014

Mason Grace Enterprises sent me a letter out the blue, this is clearly a scam! Real work from home jobs you have to contact them. If anyone is looking for legit workfrom home jobs visit WorkersOnBoard.com or visit this youtube channel by a Alicia Washington, that's her official website and her youtube

youtube.com/user/Super2moms

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#4 UPDATE Employee

typos

AUTHOR: Richard - ()

POSTED: Sunday, June 22, 2014

Please forgive the typographical errors in my last post :)

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#3 UPDATE Employee

I work for Mason Grace

AUTHOR: Richard - ()

POSTED: Sunday, June 22, 2014

Giselle, perhaps you should edify yourself a bit and take a look at our website. It would likely be best if you posted comments once you had some actual knowledge of what youre commenting on. I work in Mason Grace's email customer service. Mason Grace did not exist in 2000 and we have never heard of the names you mention. You do realize our industry existed for many years before we showed up, do you not? From day one we have only been located in NY. We also have had many fly-by-night companies attempt to coppy our product.

We do not have ONE genuine complaint about us online, only "garbage" posts such as yours. In fact, we challenge anyone to point out a post online that we cannot answer in detail. If you can find even one genuine negative post about us, we will post it on our websiote for ther world to see. Hows that for an honest deal?

We will never understand people who spend their time the way you apparently do. NO first hand knowledge at all, yet you feel you should be taken seriously. A sensible consumer would contact us first, or use our product first, THEN make comments. "Sensible" doesnt seem be very common anymore

Richard

 
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#2 Consumer Comment

Shill postings

AUTHOR: Giselle - ()

POSTED: Sunday, June 22, 2014

Really classy people posting, defending this joke company.  I have been reading complaints at this site since 2000 and the rude, uncouth poster with the apparent foul mouth is the first person I've seen to be censored for rudeness. What a class act!!! These angry, defensive postings are shill postings.   I invite all curious to read about Maxwell Gates here, it will sound VERY SIMILAR to this so-called opportunity! Well, the state of NJ got tired of Maxwell Gates and their scamming people into sending them money with the promise to send them supplies to mail to make an at home income. Yahoo seach on  these words: Maxwell Gates prosecuted NJ Consumer Affairs.

Don't send these people your hard-earned money. Spend on yourself by paying a bill or buying some groceries or helping in your search for a REAL job!

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#1 Consumer Comment

Mason is NOT a scam you d****

AUTHOR: Mark Weller - ()

POSTED: Friday, June 20, 2014

((rudeness redacted))) Dont you know who the BCA is? THEY are the scam, not Mason Grace. I use Mason. Theyre 100% honest. The BCA on the other hand is an old CA based arm of the BBB who was investigated by ABC News for their constant fraud. The BCA was intentionally allowing fake complaints and then pushing businesses to pay thousands of dollars to improve their rating. I just looked at their page for Mason. They show ZERO COMPLAINTS. (((rudeness redacted))) How does a company get an F if there are NO complaints? (((rudeness redacted))) Here, take a look at this video ya d****.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo8kfV9kONw&feature=kp  Its proof the BBB/BCA are dishonest

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